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		<title>By: Cornelius' Entrepreneurial Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1805254</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius' Entrepreneurial Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Stanford Facebook Class - Creating Engaging Facebook Apps...&lt;/strong&gt;

At Stanford University they offer a course, Creating Engaging Facebook Apps,  where students create in small teams their own Facebook applications. The goal is to recognize the underlying fundamentals of successful applications that utilize the Faceboo...</description>
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<p>At Stanford University they offer a course, Creating Engaging Facebook Apps,  where students create in small teams their own Facebook applications. The goal is to recognize the underlying fundamentals of successful applications that utilize the Faceboo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chrisco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1797069</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, guys.  If any of you are interested in joining a ground-floor social startup, check us out at BuzzPal - The World Is Your Party http://www.buzzpal.com.  Cheers, chrisco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, guys.  If any of you are interested in joining a ground-floor social startup, check us out at BuzzPal - The World Is Your Party <a href="http://www.buzzpal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzpal.com</a>.  Cheers, chrisco</p>
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		<title>By: Stanford Facebook szeminárium &#124; doransky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanford Facebook szeminárium &#124; doransky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] olyan óra indult, ami Facebook alkalmazások fejlesztését és bevezetését tűzte ki célul. Ezen az oldalon jó párat lehet belőle látni, egy kettő kifejezetten jól [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] olyan óra indult, ami Facebook alkalmazások fejlesztését és bevezetését tűzte ki célul. Ezen az oldalon jó párat lehet belőle látni, egy kettő kifejezetten jól [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kaaledge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A class on Facebook at Stanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaaledge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A class on Facebook at Stanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as users - Software and Narcotics. And btw, if you are into reading blogs (duh!), techcrunch ran a story on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Web Services &#187; Facebook 101</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1733017</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Services &#187; Facebook 101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] facebook, opensocialA story from a few days ago but have only just got around to blogging about - students at Stanford University in the US are developing Facebook applications as part of their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ross Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1725841</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After my &lt;a href="http://www.hatchthat.com/dan-ackerman-greenberg/" rel="nofollow"&gt;recent interview with Dan&lt;/a&gt; I was really keen to see what the rest of the students released and it looks like there is some really good stuff there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After my <a href="http://www.hatchthat.com/dan-ackerman-greenberg/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.hatchthat.com');">recent interview with Dan</a> I was really keen to see what the rest of the students released and it looks like there is some really good stuff there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Mickle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1725112</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MIT Student: How many successful entrepreneurs come out of MIT and risk their necks to launch businesses, despite the near certainty of failure? Don't hate on Stanford just because they have chosen to trade theoretical focus for real world, this-is-what-it-feels-like-to-launch-something-that-could-potentially-be-financially-self-sustaining-or-better experience. FYI, I didn't go to Stanford, yet many of the smartest, risk tolerant, entrepreneurial people I know did. I would have traded theory for entrepreneurial adventure any day, and likely gotten my start earlier, with those influences. The Stanford kids are lucky to attract the type of entrepreneurial, change making individual like Dave McClure, who will lend access to his/her networks and experience, to expose them to the real Silicon Valley and life outside the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MIT Student: How many successful entrepreneurs come out of MIT and risk their necks to launch businesses, despite the near certainty of failure? Don&#8217;t hate on Stanford just because they have chosen to trade theoretical focus for real world, this-is-what-it-feels-like-to-launch-something-that-could-potentially-be-financially-self-sustaining-or-better experience. FYI, I didn&#8217;t go to Stanford, yet many of the smartest, risk tolerant, entrepreneurial people I know did. I would have traded theory for entrepreneurial adventure any day, and likely gotten my start earlier, with those influences. The Stanford kids are lucky to attract the type of entrepreneurial, change making individual like Dave McClure, who will lend access to his/her networks and experience, to expose them to the real Silicon Valley and life outside the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: MIT Student</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1723136</link>
		<dc:creator>MIT Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dave mcclure: I would most likely take this class if it were offered at MIT. But, I don't think MIT would ever give students a reasonable amount of credit for this type of class. I say this for three main reasons:

(a) Classes at MIT have a strong theoretical foundation. Putting this type of class on the same level as Artificial Intelligence, Algorithms, and Distributed Systems seems wrong to me in some way.

(b) Most MIT students that are interested in applied systems would just code up an application on their own. They wouldn't need/want a class to tell them how to do it. Perhaps this is a cultural difference between MIT/Stanford.

(c) MIT tends to focus on more general skills instead of learning the specifics of FBML or other proprietary APIs.

I still stand by my previous comment that these applications need to be an extension of some larger product. As such, teaching HTML, Javascript, CSS, etc. makes sense, but why focus only on FB apps?

Nonetheless, great job with the class thus far! And, I look forward to using some of these sweet apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dave mcclure: I would most likely take this class if it were offered at MIT. But, I don&#8217;t think MIT would ever give students a reasonable amount of credit for this type of class. I say this for three main reasons:</p>
<p>(a) Classes at MIT have a strong theoretical foundation. Putting this type of class on the same level as Artificial Intelligence, Algorithms, and Distributed Systems seems wrong to me in some way.</p>
<p>(b) Most MIT students that are interested in applied systems would just code up an application on their own. They wouldn&#8217;t need/want a class to tell them how to do it. Perhaps this is a cultural difference between MIT/Stanford.</p>
<p>(c) MIT tends to focus on more general skills instead of learning the specifics of FBML or other proprietary APIs.</p>
<p>I still stand by my previous comment that these applications need to be an extension of some larger product. As such, teaching HTML, Javascript, CSS, etc. makes sense, but why focus only on FB apps?</p>
<p>Nonetheless, great job with the class thus far! And, I look forward to using some of these sweet apps.</p>
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		<title>By: MeetingFlex.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1723049</link>
		<dc:creator>MeetingFlex.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to know FB is really popular.

http://www.meetingflex.com
Social Networking + Video - Crap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to know FB is really popular.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.meetingflex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.meetingflex.com</a><br />
Social Networking + Video - Crap</p>
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		<title>By: Randal Truong</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1722583</link>
		<dc:creator>Randal Truong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I am one of the developers for Social Buzz.  I wanted to give a clarification for our application.  Social buzz is NOT "focused on music sharing purposes." Music is one of many categories you can share, and was just the example used in class.  

Social Buzz is about sharing content that interests you with your friends with the purpose of receiving feedback.  The goal is to share relevant content to the right friends to get positive feedback and show your expertise on a given subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am one of the developers for Social Buzz.  I wanted to give a clarification for our application.  Social buzz is NOT &#8220;focused on music sharing purposes.&#8221; Music is one of many categories you can share, and was just the example used in class.  </p>
<p>Social Buzz is about sharing content that interests you with your friends with the purpose of receiving feedback.  The goal is to share relevant content to the right friends to get positive feedback and show your expertise on a given subject.</p>
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		<title>By: The Foo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1721961</link>
		<dc:creator>The Foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it's great to see colleges having applied courses like that -- it certainly expands the mind and ones creativity rather than learning everything from the book. nothing better than learning something practically and it ends up prepping someone better for the real world too. i wish i had a courses like that when i was in college -- education has certainly changed for the better. with where education is heading, i am not at all surprised how much younger an average tech entrepreneur is compared to years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s great to see colleges having applied courses like that &#8212; it certainly expands the mind and ones creativity rather than learning everything from the book. nothing better than learning something practically and it ends up prepping someone better for the real world too. i wish i had a courses like that when i was in college &#8212; education has certainly changed for the better. with where education is heading, i am not at all surprised how much younger an average tech entrepreneur is compared to years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: HTML is a step back</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1721853</link>
		<dc:creator>HTML is a step back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most new web technologies are going in the direction of simplifying the user interface design and making the separation between the Model (data + business logic), View (presentation) and the Controller (processing of user actions) very distinct. The idea is to have a very loose coupling between the UI and the application logic. 

Bringing the HTML back into the design is in fact a step back. Web software companies like Google, Micorsoft, Oracle, Sun, Yahoo are realizing that the best way to separate UI design from code is to allow Information Architects and UI designers be best at what they do and work with granular UI components and technologies like Java Server Faces and not HTML. With new standards like JSR227 in work, we will soon see a nice abstraction for data binding UI components to back end data sources which will make UI design even more declarative. HTML + Code just does not scale with the new application trends and modern software complexities.

So HTML really is a step back from UI Component model. FBML is right along the idea of Java Server Faces, which makes Facebook a lot more innovative in that respect.

To give you an example of how backward HTML is to FBML, consider adding a "Friend Invite" page to your application. In Facebook FBML, this can be accomplished by writing three lines of text. In HTML, this would translate to writing over hundred lines of HTML, CSS (style definitions), Controller/Validation logic (choose java, php..). 

Facebook is clearly a winner in this one. The next logical step would be for them to try to standardize FBML into a widely adopted "social networking markup".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most new web technologies are going in the direction of simplifying the user interface design and making the separation between the Model (data + business logic), View (presentation) and the Controller (processing of user actions) very distinct. The idea is to have a very loose coupling between the UI and the application logic. </p>
<p>Bringing the HTML back into the design is in fact a step back. Web software companies like Google, Micorsoft, Oracle, Sun, Yahoo are realizing that the best way to separate UI design from code is to allow Information Architects and UI designers be best at what they do and work with granular UI components and technologies like Java Server Faces and not HTML. With new standards like JSR227 in work, we will soon see a nice abstraction for data binding UI components to back end data sources which will make UI design even more declarative. HTML + Code just does not scale with the new application trends and modern software complexities.</p>
<p>So HTML really is a step back from UI Component model. FBML is right along the idea of Java Server Faces, which makes Facebook a lot more innovative in that respect.</p>
<p>To give you an example of how backward HTML is to FBML, consider adding a &#8220;Friend Invite&#8221; page to your application. In Facebook FBML, this can be accomplished by writing three lines of text. In HTML, this would translate to writing over hundred lines of HTML, CSS (style definitions), Controller/Validation logic (choose java, php..). </p>
<p>Facebook is clearly a winner in this one. The next logical step would be for them to try to standardize FBML into a widely adopted &#8220;social networking markup&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Boilermaker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1721802</link>
		<dc:creator>Boilermaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hats off to the folks at Stanford.  

We've been trying to get a similar course off the ground at Purdue: http://cs490e.wiki.zoho.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hats off to the folks at Stanford.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been trying to get a similar course off the ground at Purdue: <a href="http://cs490e.wiki.zoho.com" rel="nofollow">http://cs490e.wiki.zoho.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: dave mcclure</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1721691</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mcclure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MIT student: surprised to hear MIT wouldn't want to offer an applied class... am i missing something, or isn't MIT famous for great engineers?  isn't engineering all about applied knowledge?  your call, but i guess it's up to you folks as students to make the case for what you want to learn.  at Stanford, students in computer science &#38; tech business want to learn about what people are using / doing in the real world, so an applied approach makes the most sense.

re: approach, we have each 3-person team to build 1-2 apps on facebook as specific class outputs, however in addition to those practical objectives our course covers the following related topics:
  * how to build social web apps (on FB now; other platforms in future)
  * understanding persuasive technology as applied to user experience
  * understanding viral distribution using social networks
  * applying web metrics for product design &#38; marketing
  * learning about the business &#38; marketing of startups

obviously as one of the instructors i'm biased, but i think our class is more relevant to today's software engineers &#38; entrepreneurs than most traditional engineering curriculum, both for economics &#38; educational reasons.  the skills &#38; theory we're teaching are immediately practical for our students, and have real-world impact.  

we've also been fortunate to have involvement in the class from people at Facebook, Google, Slide, RockYou, and many other tech-focused companies, as both guest speakers &#38; educators.  it's been a tremendous opportunity to see how we can bring both industry &#38; academia together to create a great learning experience for students.

Along with the rest of the teaching team, Prof. BJ Fogg &#38; I are still learning how best to teach the course, so we know we're still in "alpha" ourselves.  as dan mentioned above, we'll likely be adding / refining our approach next semester, and adding info on how to develop for the recently-announced OpenSocial API standard from Google as well as ongoing interest in the Facebook platform.

but so far, both instructors &#38; students are having a blast :)

- dave "not a professor, just a visiting lecturer" mcclure
  http://500hats.typepad.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MIT student: surprised to hear MIT wouldn&#8217;t want to offer an applied class&#8230; am i missing something, or isn&#8217;t MIT famous for great engineers?  isn&#8217;t engineering all about applied knowledge?  your call, but i guess it&#8217;s up to you folks as students to make the case for what you want to learn.  at Stanford, students in computer science &amp; tech business want to learn about what people are using / doing in the real world, so an applied approach makes the most sense.</p>
<p>re: approach, we have each 3-person team to build 1-2 apps on facebook as specific class outputs, however in addition to those practical objectives our course covers the following related topics:<br />
  * how to build social web apps (on FB now; other platforms in future)<br />
  * understanding persuasive technology as applied to user experience<br />
  * understanding viral distribution using social networks<br />
  * applying web metrics for product design &amp; marketing<br />
  * learning about the business &amp; marketing of startups</p>
<p>obviously as one of the instructors i&#8217;m biased, but i think our class is more relevant to today&#8217;s software engineers &amp; entrepreneurs than most traditional engineering curriculum, both for economics &amp; educational reasons.  the skills &amp; theory we&#8217;re teaching are immediately practical for our students, and have real-world impact.  </p>
<p>we&#8217;ve also been fortunate to have involvement in the class from people at Facebook, Google, Slide, RockYou, and many other tech-focused companies, as both guest speakers &amp; educators.  it&#8217;s been a tremendous opportunity to see how we can bring both industry &amp; academia together to create a great learning experience for students.</p>
<p>Along with the rest of the teaching team, Prof. BJ Fogg &amp; I are still learning how best to teach the course, so we know we&#8217;re still in &#8220;alpha&#8221; ourselves.  as dan mentioned above, we&#8217;ll likely be adding / refining our approach next semester, and adding info on how to develop for the recently-announced OpenSocial API standard from Google as well as ongoing interest in the Facebook platform.</p>
<p>but so far, both instructors &amp; students are having a blast <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>- dave &#8220;not a professor, just a visiting lecturer&#8221; mcclure<br />
  <a href="http://500hats.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://500hats.typepad.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: East Villager</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1721504</link>
		<dc:creator>East Villager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's light stuff, indeed. But these days light stuff can go pretty far (alaFB). I was curious about the Matchmaker app -- not b/c I'm looking for love -- but from a 'stickiness' perspective, it may have  endurance. If they had an app like JackSawJane, or whatever... something with practical value, FB might actually fend off the shallow grave of superficiality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s light stuff, indeed. But these days light stuff can go pretty far (alaFB). I was curious about the Matchmaker app &#8212; not b/c I&#8217;m looking for love &#8212; but from a &#8217;stickiness&#8217; perspective, it may have  endurance. If they had an app like JackSawJane, or whatever&#8230; something with practical value, FB might actually fend off the shallow grave of superficiality.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1721243</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kewl!
Do I know how to invest or what?
Just a few of our MS "special sauce" tweaks and Facebook will really purr!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kewl!<br />
Do I know how to invest or what?<br />
Just a few of our MS &#8220;special sauce&#8221; tweaks and Facebook will really purr!</p>
<p><a href="http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ackerman Greenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720882</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ackerman Greenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for coming in today, Mark.  We're really excited that the teams in our class managed to LAUNCH 25 apps in 4 weeks - the next 6 weeks will be fun as we move into App 2.   

Our students have gotten about 150,000 installs so far in total, and we're optimistic that as all the teams iterate on their apps we'll start to see some more interesting and viral concepts emerge.  

We're going to start doing a better job of sharing the insights and lessons from the class online, so stay tuned.  The class website/blog is at - http://captology.stanford.edu/facebook for anyone who is interested in following along as we go.

Re: your comment- "That said, much of the Stanford class is dedicated to the concepts that are pertinent to application development on any social network platform"......BJ, Dave and I are currently talking about v.2 of the class next quarter (potentially) and OpenSocial/MySpace are definitely part of that discussion.  What we're doing on Facebook is really exciting, but the real takeaway is that the lessons we're uncovering can (and will) be applied to apps built on any social platform, not just FB.


Dan (Facebook Class TA)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for coming in today, Mark.  We&#8217;re really excited that the teams in our class managed to LAUNCH 25 apps in 4 weeks - the next 6 weeks will be fun as we move into App 2.   </p>
<p>Our students have gotten about 150,000 installs so far in total, and we&#8217;re optimistic that as all the teams iterate on their apps we&#8217;ll start to see some more interesting and viral concepts emerge.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to start doing a better job of sharing the insights and lessons from the class online, so stay tuned.  The class website/blog is at - <a href="http://captology.stanford.edu/facebook" rel="nofollow">http://captology.stanford.edu/facebook</a> for anyone who is interested in following along as we go.</p>
<p>Re: your comment- &#8220;That said, much of the Stanford class is dedicated to the concepts that are pertinent to application development on any social network platform&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;BJ, Dave and I are currently talking about v.2 of the class next quarter (potentially) and OpenSocial/MySpace are definitely part of that discussion.  What we&#8217;re doing on Facebook is really exciting, but the real takeaway is that the lessons we&#8217;re uncovering can (and will) be applied to apps built on any social platform, not just FB.</p>
<p>Dan (Facebook Class TA)<br />
<a href="http://www.ackermangreenberg.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ackermangreenberg.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: MIT Student</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720698</link>
		<dc:creator>MIT Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a cool, applied class. As a student at MIT, I know that there is no way we would be given credit for a class like this.

Besides, I think this teaches the students the wrong mentality in the first place. 99.9% of the time Facebook apps should be an extension of the product, not the product itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a cool, applied class. As a student at MIT, I know that there is no way we would be given credit for a class like this.</p>
<p>Besides, I think this teaches the students the wrong mentality in the first place. 99.9% of the time Facebook apps should be an extension of the product, not the product itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuldeep</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720569</link>
		<dc:creator>Kuldeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7, 13 - Joey, has put in a very good point and it really seems techCrunch writers have portrayed the whole this buzz of social apps shallowly and havent given their analysis thoroughly.

TechCrunch, plz note this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7, 13 - Joey, has put in a very good point and it really seems techCrunch writers have portrayed the whole this buzz of social apps shallowly and havent given their analysis thoroughly.</p>
<p>TechCrunch, plz note this point.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720559</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amit @1

"Where’s the, “haha we kicked USC’s ass” app?"

That app only gets released once every 6 or 7 years.  Haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amit @1</p>
<p>&#8220;Where’s the, “haha we kicked USC’s ass” app?&#8221;</p>
<p>That app only gets released once every 6 or 7 years.  Haha!</p>
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		<title>By: Raghav Himatsingka</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720493</link>
		<dc:creator>Raghav Himatsingka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the developers for the Kiva app on Facebook (listed here as "The Gumball Machine" but the name has been changed to The Giving Tree). It's a really cool app which lets Facebook users browse through profiles of people needing loans in developing nations for their small businesses (in say amounts of $200-$1000), and basically allows users to allocate money to these businesses in small amounts (of $1 - $5) using our money. So basically it's sponsoring businesses without actually donating money - we provide the money from companies who wish to make non-profit donations and users just use this money to allocate the money to the business they want. 

I was wondering if the author of this post could please update the name of our app (The Gumball Machine) and name it "The Giving Tree" since we have changed the name recently. The app is not yet listed in the FB directory - but will be soon! We are ready to get real money soon and come out with The Giving Tree v. 2.0. Get excited! Feel free to email with questions at: raghav.h at gmail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the developers for the Kiva app on Facebook (listed here as &#8220;The Gumball Machine&#8221; but the name has been changed to The Giving Tree). It&#8217;s a really cool app which lets Facebook users browse through profiles of people needing loans in developing nations for their small businesses (in say amounts of $200-$1000), and basically allows users to allocate money to these businesses in small amounts (of $1 - $5) using our money. So basically it&#8217;s sponsoring businesses without actually donating money - we provide the money from companies who wish to make non-profit donations and users just use this money to allocate the money to the business they want. </p>
<p>I was wondering if the author of this post could please update the name of our app (The Gumball Machine) and name it &#8220;The Giving Tree&#8221; since we have changed the name recently. The app is not yet listed in the FB directory - but will be soon! We are ready to get real money soon and come out with The Giving Tree v. 2.0. Get excited! Feel free to email with questions at: raghav.h at gmail.</p>
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		<title>By: Envy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720472</link>
		<dc:creator>Envy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many Stanford haters.  So sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many Stanford haters.  So sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Hsu</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720456</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Hsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.  It'll be interesting to see the next set of applications from the class, since that one will be focused on learning and teaching.  Here's the class website: http://credibilityserver.stanford.edu/captology/facebook/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.  It&#8217;ll be interesting to see the next set of applications from the class, since that one will be focused on learning and teaching.  Here&#8217;s the class website: <a href="http://credibilityserver.stanford.edu/captology/facebook/" rel="nofollow">http://credibilityserver.stanf...../facebook/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tenders</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720357</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article interesting because of the forward-thinking nature of classes at Stanford, which is why silicon valley is still at the leading edge in this game. Here in the UK we would have to go through several board meetings, stretching over the course of a year I imagine, before approval for a class like this could be gained. By this time the industry will have moved on. This practical-level work shows how innovative Stanford is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article interesting because of the forward-thinking nature of classes at Stanford, which is why silicon valley is still at the leading edge in this game. Here in the UK we would have to go through several board meetings, stretching over the course of a year I imagine, before approval for a class like this could be gained. By this time the industry will have moved on. This practical-level work shows how innovative Stanford is.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Tyson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/01/stanford-students-present-facebook-apps-to-class/#comment-1720318</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply, Mark.  I didn't take your characterization that far, but I have felt that TechCrunch writers (not you specifically) have made it sound as though learning to write a Facebook app is akin to learning a new programming language (e.g. learning PHP or Ruby for the first time), while OpenSocial apps only require the HTML/JavaScript/etc. skills most web developers already know.  That's simply not true - extensions like FBML tend to be minor parts of a Facebook app, Facebook apps don't even require FBML, and all web-based Facebook apps render in HTML/JavaScript/etc.

Anyway, I appreciate the response to my venting. :)  I suppose my feelings would be more directed at some of Mike's articles rather than this one.  And btw, thanks for the round-up - I've already installed one of the apps to test out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply, Mark.  I didn&#8217;t take your characterization that far, but I have felt that TechCrunch writers (not you specifically) have made it sound as though learning to write a Facebook app is akin to learning a new programming language (e.g. learning PHP or Ruby for the first time), while OpenSocial apps only require the HTML/JavaScript/etc. skills most web developers already know.  That&#8217;s simply not true - extensions like FBML tend to be minor parts of a Facebook app, Facebook apps don&#8217;t even require FBML, and all web-based Facebook apps render in HTML/JavaScript/etc.</p>
<p>Anyway, I appreciate the response to my venting. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I suppose my feelings would be more directed at some of Mike&#8217;s articles rather than this one.  And btw, thanks for the round-up - I&#8217;ve already installed one of the apps to test out.</p>
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