Comments on: Free From iTunes Addiction, NBC Universal Seizes Control Of Digital Destiny http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:24:19 -0800 hourly 1 By: TechCrunch en français » NBC retire ses programmes de iTunes et diffusera tout seul http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1807644 TechCrunch en français » NBC retire ses programmes de iTunes et diffusera tout seul Tue, 04 Dec 2007 05:26:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1807644 [...] Après un désaccord public, NBC et Apple se séparent. Son contrat expiré, NBC retire tous ses shows de iTunes à l’exception des nouveaux podcasts NBC. Cette décision était attendue. [...] [...] Après un désaccord public, NBC et Apple se séparent. Son contrat expiré, NBC retire tous ses shows de iTunes à l’exception des nouveaux podcasts NBC. Cette décision était attendue. [...]

]]> By: Lisa http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1724811 Lisa Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:07:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1724811 Folks, there is a world of difference between itunes and network (i.e. "free") TV. For NBC, the TV viewer is a consumer. Their CUSTOMERS are the advertisers who pay them, thus pay their salaries, fund their new series, pay their actors, writers and support staff. For itunes, the downloader is their CUSTOMER. Itunes has an interest in making their customer happy, NBC has the same interest. The difference, obviously, is their customers are totally different entities with totally different sets of interests. This was bound to happen and I can only hope it gets worked out soon. I really want to watch Battlestar on my iPod! And I agree. The bundling idea is wicked stupid. Folks, there is a world of difference between itunes and network (i.e. “free”) TV. For NBC, the TV viewer is a consumer. Their CUSTOMERS are the advertisers who pay them, thus pay their salaries, fund their new series, pay their actors, writers and support staff.

For itunes, the downloader is their CUSTOMER. Itunes has an interest in making their customer happy, NBC has the same interest. The difference, obviously, is their customers are totally different entities with totally different sets of interests.

This was bound to happen and I can only hope it gets worked out soon. I really want to watch Battlestar on my iPod!

And I agree. The bundling idea is wicked stupid.

]]> By: Terry Heaton http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1712495 Terry Heaton Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:37:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1712495 Nick, don't be fooled by the on-air/online CPM comparison. The audience multiples are so significantly different as to make it apples and oranges. Nick, don’t be fooled by the on-air/online CPM comparison. The audience multiples are so significantly different as to make it apples and oranges.

]]> By: AnonTroll http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1712280 AnonTroll Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:51:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1712280 Downloading videos is a tech head thing, not your average consumer unless you are using iTunes. Your average user wouldn't know what to do with bittorrent even if comes pre-installed on their system. So for the minority of us that knows how to use bittorrent, the majority of the users would gladly stream the videos and that's where Hulu comes in and they are legally able to improve and stream highly desirable content. All the bitching and moaning about quality and not being available outside US are issues that can be resolved later. For god sake, they are still in private beta now, I am still now seeing occasional issues with youtube, myspace, and facebook. No I don't work for the entertainment companies nor do I have any stake in Hulu, I am just sick of hearing about people bitching about NBC, Fox just because they are suppose to be evil. You know what, as much as Larry and Sergey claims their motto to "do no evil", Google is one of the most evil companies ever. Downloading videos is a tech head thing, not your average consumer unless you are using iTunes. Your average user wouldn’t know what to do with bittorrent even if comes pre-installed on their system. So for the minority of us that knows how to use bittorrent, the majority of the users would gladly stream the videos and that’s where Hulu comes in and they are legally able to improve and stream highly desirable content. All the bitching and moaning about quality and not being available outside US are issues that can be resolved later. For god sake, they are still in private beta now, I am still now seeing occasional issues with youtube, myspace, and facebook.

No I don’t work for the entertainment companies nor do I have any stake in Hulu, I am just sick of hearing about people bitching about NBC, Fox just because they are suppose to be evil. You know what, as much as Larry and Sergey claims their motto to “do no evil”, Google is one of the most evil companies ever.

]]> By: PookieBadMuffin http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1712118 PookieBadMuffin Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:37:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1712118 At least the Hulu videos play smoothly - something I've *never* been able to say about movies or TV shows I've bought from iTunes. At least the Hulu videos play smoothly – something I’ve *never* been able to say about movies or TV shows I’ve bought from iTunes.

]]> By: James Young http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1712092 James Young Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:21:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1712092 Gee, and here I was thinking that Apple helped NBC turn $0 of torrent income into a brand new $15M revenue stream. Unless NBC can prove that iTunes sales decreased their TV ad sales (bottom line), how can $15M from a nascent customer base be bad? In the end, I guess it will all come down to advertising. If NBC can control the context and delivery of content, infuse it with expensive ads, and still keep the end-user experience from being horrible, then perhaps they can make more than they would by staying w/ Apple. But all of this Apple slamming from media executives is really coming across as childish - like a bunch of whining teens biting the hand that fed them. Typical of Apple to innovate, be copied, and then berated. Gee, and here I was thinking that Apple helped NBC turn $0 of torrent income into a brand new $15M revenue stream. Unless NBC can prove that iTunes sales decreased their TV ad sales (bottom line), how can $15M from a nascent customer base be bad? In the end, I guess it will all come down to advertising. If NBC can control the context and delivery of content, infuse it with expensive ads, and still keep the end-user experience from being horrible, then perhaps they can make more than they would by staying w/ Apple. But all of this Apple slamming from media executives is really coming across as childish – like a bunch of whining teens biting the hand that fed them. Typical of Apple to innovate, be copied, and then berated.

]]> By: Jurado http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1711972 Jurado Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:18:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1711972 Catup is best served burgers and fries....Steven Jobs did to Music, What Bill Gates did to software! Talk about a good Shot! Catup is best served burgers and fries….Steven Jobs did to Music, What Bill Gates did to software! Talk about a good Shot!

]]> By: free lunch in China http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1711809 free lunch in China Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:49:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1711809 CCTV-1 is so called NBC in China, since most chinese watch this every day. It is more and more popular after it is online. Users could download activex from http://www.tvkoo.com/en/download.htm and enjoy free CCTV from any corner ofthe wolrd. CCTV-1 is so called NBC in China, since most chinese watch this every day. It is more and more popular after it is online. Users could download activex from http://www.tvko...en/download.htm and enjoy free CCTV from any corner ofthe wolrd.

]]> By: mcsetraining http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1711591 mcsetraining Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:53:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1711591 i think zucker is making a big mistake i think zucker is making a big mistake

]]> By: Mike Abundo http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1711448 Mike Abundo Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:34:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1711448 Are you kidding me? Zucker is a moron! The whole world is moving towards superdistribution, and here's Zucker plunging NBC in the opposite direction! Are you kidding me? Zucker is a moron! The whole world is moving towards superdistribution, and here’s Zucker plunging NBC in the opposite direction!

]]> By: Jack http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1711421 Jack Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:23:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1711421 I guess profitablilty for Hulu - and rates chargeable - depend on how available they make the content elsewhere (plus of course how good that content is). I guess profitablilty for Hulu – and rates chargeable – depend on how available they make the content elsewhere (plus of course how good that content is).

]]> By: Sammy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1710931 Sammy Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:53:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1710931 #3 Really, fake Steve Ballmer - cut it out. Or at least post something with some sense. or go get a job. Or an education. Something. Anything. #3

Really, fake Steve Ballmer – cut it out.
Or at least post something with some sense.
or go get a job.
Or an education.
Something.
Anything.

]]> By: Steve Ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1710878 Steve Ballmer Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:30:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1710878 iTunes is a dire evil! A plague, a pox upon the internet and all it's users. I try to save them but they just won't come! http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com iTunes is a dire evil! A plague, a pox upon the internet and all it’s users.
I try to save them but they just won’t come!

http://fakestev...er.blogspot.com

]]> By: Brian http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1710856 Brian Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:22:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1710856 These guys should feel lucky to get any revenue from this. With prices like 1.99 / episode they're just driving ppl to piracy and torrents. These guys should feel lucky to get any revenue from this. With prices like 1.99 / episode they’re just driving ppl to piracy and torrents.

]]> By: Johan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/comment-page-1/#comment-1710798 Johan Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:48:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/29/free-from-itunes-addiction-nbc-universal-seizes-control-of-digital-destiny/#comment-1710798 I'm of the belief that even $1.99 is too high a price to pay for TV downloads. It should be closer to free (i.e. as in Chris Anderson "Free") So, for NBC to basically complain that Apple destroyed pricing model shows that they just don't get the Internet. $1.99 was an excellent deal for NBC. They didn't even know how good they had it. I’m of the belief that even $1.99 is too high a price to pay for TV downloads. It should be closer to free (i.e. as in Chris Anderson “Free”)

So, for NBC to basically complain that Apple destroyed pricing model shows that they just don’t get the Internet.

$1.99 was an excellent deal for NBC. They didn’t even know how good they had it.

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