October 27, 2007

Epson Joins Sprint: They Suck And Their New Website Is Stupid

Michael Arrington

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I’m pretty sure there are some consultants out there who are telling big, clueless companies that the way to engage with their audience is to engage with them on an interactive, emotional level. I imagine them saying “let’s bolt a few social features onto the product and engage with the MySpace generation.” Those consultants convinced Sprint to launch possibly the dumbest website I’ve seen all year: users fill out a survey and are told which cell phone fits their lifestyle the best.

And now those consultants have conned Epson into doing the same thing on a new site called Epsonality. They ask questions like “You come across a bear in the woods, what do you do?” and “you find $199.99 lying on the ground, what do you do?” and use your answers to somehow determine the right printer for you. All in a sick, highly personalized Flash interface.

My perfect emotional printer partner is, apparently, the Epson C120:

You’re an intense, type A-plus with lower-than-average printer patience and a “go, go, go, come one, come on, come on” attitude toward everything from your Internet connection to your microwave oven. You value one thing above all else and the C120 delivers it: blazing speed.

Wow Epson. You nailed me, and I’m a customer for life. Except that I’m not, and never will be. You win the lamest website of the week award and join Sprint as a brand that I will never purchase. The reason? The last time I bought one of your printers the software screwed it up so badly I had to reformat the hard drive just to get it to work again. Since then, I’ve stuck with HP’s.

Fire the consultants, stop trying to be a conversational marketer and just get back to the basics.

Or build a Facebook application. Now that would be cool.

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  1. MikeW

    Mike, what the hell is this? Uncov envy or something?

  2. Michael Arrington

    I don’t like companies who bolt social features onto whatever it is that they do and hope that they’ll have a higher ROI on their marketing expense. The consultants who are pitching this crap should be called on it.

  3. Dan Ackerman Greenberg

    ….”Or build a Facebook application. Now that would be cool.”

    Haha, I love it.

  4. MikeW

    Next time, just summarize your post with: FAIL.

  5. i'm Ronald Lewis

    I agree with you, Mike.
    I bought an Epson printer too once, the drivers crashed my laptop.
    i should have backed up my data with an online data storage co.

    epson…
    “…f’n bitch”

  6. Tanje Yatne

    I’m pretty sure!?? Thats quite a lot of words about something you dont know about. Dont you have any interesting stories that you are sure about?

  7. Don't click here

    All in a sick, highly personalized Flash interface.

    Yo dog, don’t you mean slick interface G?

    I hope clown co’s do continue to build useless websites that will keep wall street users engaged. It is so much more fun to make fun of them and point out all their flaws. Besides, without low quality facebook social networking wannabes you would be writing to an empty blog.

  8. Ritu

    that was quite a blow to epson. I truly think HP is best when it comes to the printers

  9. Steve Spalding

    Yep, Epson could have probably thought that one through a little more.

    I hate to say it (no, really I don’t) but this site really isn’t that much worse than about 60% of the Web 2.0-y stuff that is slapped together with AJAX, Adsense, Arrogance and A-maginary business models.

    At least I found myself vaguely entertained by this.

  10. Timmy

    Based on popular demand as there are many who think the “Epsonality” test is way too hard, here are the correct answers:

    1)

    Q: Something about the bear and printing question
    A: Who cares

    2)

    Q: $199.99 left in the trail and printing question
    A: Seriously, who cares

    3)

    Q: two forks and something about printing question
    A: B

  11. LOL

    HEHEHEH… Mike’s got lamest problem. He couldn’t deal with human resource at Epson company.

    Epson installing driver detect mike’s HD. They find numerous porn pics and animal pics. It’s wonderful to become Christian again.

    Hahahah… Mike lost best files, Games, saving page, porns, and picture of rosie o donnell pics.

  12. i'm Ronald Lewis

    @9
    What you just described in a condescending manner is basically your own site

  13. Reingelnatz

    What’s wrong with you? I like the site. It’s entertaining. Maybe you should turn off your computer once a day and look at other things.

    Best wishes,
    Ringelnatz

  14. Steve Spalding

    I thought the Epson site was vaguely amusing.

    I find many, many of the “me too” web services that are put together recently are not. If you want some examples and good reasons, drop me a line.

    This is little more than my opinion, which I am entitled to.

    Then again, I guess your comment — which I am hoping is based on something a little more solid than the convenience of turning an argument around on a comment you find distasteful (and 15 seconds of scanning a link) — is your right as well.

    If you thought I was being a bit too general, I am more than willing to discuss the idea at length with you. Thanks for the feedback.

  15. Rollo

    Marketing is now about selling lifestyles, not products. And apparently there are plenty of morons who want to buy them.

  16. Revolutionist

    I agree such websites are futile and their stupidity should be highlighting!

    They deserve all the negative publicity they can (and most probably are) getting.

  17. Michael Arrington

    memo to Steve Hodson:

    http://www.winextra.com/2007/1.....book-apps/

    yeah, I was kidding about the facebook app sentence at the end. I was being sarcastic.

  18. Chris

    Agree with you, completely useless website. I’ve just done the test because I’ve read your post, I don’t see any reason why someone would take this test unless he read this post.

  19. Redmanti

    There are seldom one marketing tool for everyone.

    May be that there is a whole segment out there into this type of webplay? Clearly, not for everybody.

  20. sean percival

    I like Mike’s after midnight posts :D

  21. cettio

    Stop posting drunk mike, your hate always comes out, overboard….i mean, who could really hate EPSON this much..? not worth it.

  22. Fake "Fake Michael Arrington"

    Why did you even consider an Epson printer in the first place? Why EVER deviate from HP? Every Epson printer I have seen was a POS, and I don’t mean Point Of Sale…

    Buying an Epson printer is like buying a Yugo car. You get what you paid for, minus some.

  23. Roy

    hei.
    I love my epson printer,
    I bought the Epson Stylus Photo R270 to print high uality images
    and its amazing, not fast, not cheap,not as durable but has a print quality i never got from HP products.

  24. adeline

    I agree such websites are futile and their stupidity should be highlighting!

    They deserve all the negative publicity they can (and most probably are) getting.

  25. adeline

    I’m pretty sure!?? Thats quite a lot of words about something you dont know about. Dont you have any interesting stories that you are sure about?

  26. Scott Yates

    My particular reason for never again buying Epson: If the color ink runs out the printer won’t work, even if you are printing an all-black-ink document.

    All the printer companies are in this horrible game of selling cheap printers to get you hooked on overpriced ink, but Epson seems the most flagrant about it.

  27. Mememe

    I think that this post is way off the mark. I found myself giggling going through the test. You have to take it for what it is — a pretty well casted interactive commercial. It’s NOTHING like the Sprint campaign.

  28. sputnick

    But Mike, they DID nail your personality 100%… Give them some credit at least. If I didn’t know better I’d swear you’re being grouchy and letting your mood influence your work.

  29. Fred

    Wow, someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. There’s nothing remotely “social” about this website. It’s your basic printer selector dressed up in pseudo-Euro Ikeaness. Drill down and the questions are just (1) what do you want to print, (2) how much do you want to spend, and (3) multi-function or not? Go to HP’s website and you’ll get the same thing in boring HP business-speak.

    I like Epsons, but that’s because HP’s photo printers suck.

  30. sam

    Mike:

    The software is obviously pretty basic if it did not include the assessment that you have a HUGE ego and like to try to throw your weight around since just about everybody picked on you as a kid.

    If the software could not quickly ascertain something so fundamental about you Mike, it certainly could not suggest a printer for you!

  31. Bob

    Isn’t Epson also the company that wants all ink cartridges to be cryptographically signed and if a third-party dares to produce a compatible cartridge they can sue for DMCA violations? I guess the most desirable “Epsonality” would be “loves paying Chanel No. 5 prices for ink.”

  32. Derrick

    My Epson printers uses up tons of ink each time I turn it on (not even printing anything yet). I won’t buy one unless they fix this problem.

    And they’d rather spend money on this type of sites? Gosh

  33. rick

    hah mikew, Mr Arrington doesn’t even have half the sarcastic wit of the Uncov crew, in case the title of this posting itself didn’t make that clear to you.

  34. Faramarz

    I decided 4 years ago to never ever again purchase an Epson printer because of their evil engineering. maybe the scam is only happening on a consumer level, but regardless i will never endorse those fuckers!

    Xerox laser for the win!

  35. PJ

    Well, those surveys are popular with lost young people that don’t believe in anything. Taking a survey, getting a “magic” answer, like going to a palm reader, psychic friend, etc.

  36. M

    Im waiting for the Epsonality Dating site, so I can find a person with the same type of Epsonality as me.

  37. Eric Rice

    Wow, decaf.

    What ever happened to the good old days of hating things cuz they sucked? If Lexmark had a web site that was the second best thing since air, we’d be dancing around throwing flowers at each other?

    You’ve been hanging around cranky, narrow-focused geeks too much.

    (Naturally Ad Rants could have posted this and we’d be throwing flowers at them, but then, we expect them to talk about this)

    At the end of the day, slap some HPs in my office and some Epsons in my art studio, and my socks are sufficiently rocked. Canon, while I love your cameras, can go to hell. And Lexmark? Haha, riiiight.

  38. Marcello

    I took the test. It was stupid, but it was fun. And who doesn’t like fun?

    Well, okay, so apparently quite a few people don’t like fun. But anything that makes me smile is arrright by me. If this is a stupid website, then bring on the stupid websites!

  39. Deja Vu

    Mike, now all that’s missing is the banner ad for Epson’s printers. ;)

  40. Mr. Recycle

    I switched to Sprint two years ago when they rolled out EVDO in Los Angeles. I was hesitant to give up the freedom that came with a GSM network (T-Mobile at the time), but have never regretted it. EVDO is truly great, and it is cheap. Sprint should bundle EVDO with an unlimited texting plan and just simply market it without the hip branding BS.

  41. John

    Nice hatchet job, and well deserved.

    It kind of takes away from the impact, though, when your next post is irony-free praise (as far as I can tell) for a facebook app about adopting aliens.

  42. The Mad Hatter

    I don’t have time to visit the epson site, but how can it be worse than the social networking sites? Social networking is inane. The sites consist of morans spewing out drivel all day.

    For proof, just look at what the brilliant minds on the Ronald Lewis site linked on comment #12 are giving us:

    2. 12:46 rebeccajoy: It’s uncommon?
    3. 12:46 drpepper: he’s probably a fat 15 year old kid w zits on his ass, in real life
    4. 12:46 rebeccajoy: No
    5. 12:46 drpepper: nah, becca, it’s common..
    6. 12:46 rebeccajoy: Skype is video chat
    7. 12:46 rebeccajoy: for the both of us
    8. 12:47 drpepper: becca….
    9. 12:47 rebeccajoy: Yes?
    10. 12:47 drpepper: i was telling ron today, a friend of mine met his wife through match.com …
    11. 12:47 drpepper: so, it’s like normal shit to do…
    12. 12:47 drpepper: i mean, you’re not a freak, i don’t think
    13. 12:47 drpepper: but you still have to prove it
    14. 12:47 rebeccajoy: lol, Ok
    15. 12:48 drpepper: sloppy joe time, bitchess…
    16. 12:48 drpepper: i’ll probably be back
    17. 12:48 rebeccajoy: Enjoy
    18. 12:50 rebeccajoy: I agree. Some people just look down on it.
    19. 12:50 rebeccajoy: *cough* my mother!
    20. 12:50 ronaldlewis: ?
    21. 12:50 ronaldlewis: your mom is around?
    22. 12:50 rebeccajoy: She doesn’t understand it
    23. 12:50 ronaldlewis: oh
    24. 12:50 ronaldlewis: lol
    25. 12:51 rebeccajoy:
    26. 12:52 rebeccajoy: How old were you?
    27. 12:53 rebeccajoy: lol, Yeah
    28. 12:54 rebeccajoy: lol
    29. 12:56 rebeccajoy: I understand.
    30. 12:58 rebeccajoy: another country
    31. 12:58 rebeccajoy: He’s coming to NY and LA in the next week
    32. 1:02 ronaldlewis: another country?
    33. 1:02 ronaldlewis: wtf?
    34. 1:02 ronaldlewis: He doesn’t live in North America?
    35. 1:02 rebeccajoy: No
    36. 1:02 rebeccajoy: Do you have AIM?
    37. 1:03 rebeccajoy: He wants to move here.
    38. 1:04 ronaldlewis: yeah
    39. 1:04 ronaldlewis: i have AIM
    40. 1:04 ronaldlewis: ronaldl12
    41. 1:05 rebeccajoy: lol, Who doesn’t use AIM? Am I out of the loop?
    42. 1:05 ronaldlewis: I don’t use AIM very often
    43. 1:06 rebeccajoy: I wish I could tell you who it is.
    44. 1:07 ronaldlewis: becca
    45. 1:07 rebeccajoy: Ohh, wait
    46. 1:08 ronaldlewis: i’m on AIM
    47. 1:08 rebeccajoy: ?
    48. 1:08 rebeccajoy: musicfed89
    49. 1:08 rebeccajoy: It doesn’t say you’re online.
    50. 1:08 rebeccajoy: Well, not AIM
    51. 1:08 rebeccajoy: I’m on iChat
    52. 1:34 drpepper: toddscott1979

    Can we have more social networking, please? I just can’t get enough of it.

  43. The Mad Hatter

    See? I spelled morons wrong. I blame social networking for that, too.

  44. uhhhh

    so this is a horrible idea, but an adopt an alien facebook application is a good idea??

    right.

  45. ghostwriter

    I have to agree — you’re off the mark on this one. It’s clearly not social networking, and the site is pretty slickly built. The novelty factor may be a little high, but the rattlesnake and bear questions…? you have to admit, that’s funny.

  46. nemrut

    ‘fire all the consultants’

    ..more likely they hired some clueless, high-priced ad agency for this type of work.

    clueless, high-priced consultants usually get hired for ‘back-end’ needs that they can milk for years to come…

  47. Nikolay Kolev

    Sprint Wireless Broadband (EV-DO Rev. A) is just great! Just because Sprint or Epson or whichever company had a marketing screwup, you shouldn’t make conclusions on their product/service quality. But I agree that Epson’s website is one of those screwups.

  48. Eric Rice

    /me is still giggling about the Aliens.

  49. Steven Hodson

    Memo to Michael Arrington :)

    thanks for the clarification - I had a feeling that you were but I still think but the fact is that companies are treating Facebook as a craze and the pressure to be app’itized within the Facebook garden seems to gaining steam.

  50. Guy Smith

    I won’t speculate if the Epson gimmick is slick or lame. But they are attempting to execute a very common consumer product tactic, which is to create a backward emotional linkage from product to person.

    This marketing tactic attempts to reflect on the personality of the buyer (if Epson actually matches any of the web site’s visitor personalities is a different matter). People develop a buying preference for products that reflect their (desired) self-image. Thus, if Epson is coming remotely close to rephrasing part of the visitor’s personality, they will tend to develop an emotive association to Epson, and possibly the selected printer.

    If you have any doubts about this process, rewind your mental video tape to the old “I want to teach the world to sing” Coke commercial. This was a naked attempt to appeal to the average person’s self-perception of the period — of being part of larger, peaceful, global community (sure, balderdash, but that was the vibe of the time). Viewers saw themselves in the ad and developed a deeper association with that brand of soda pop.

  51. Fred

    I think the web site is pretty funny. Have you considered that this was just a light joke by epson? I think the whole style of the movies are pretty sarcastic. So I dont think that they are being serious in matching printers to your personality, as you suggest in the post.

  52. BDJ

    LOL. Outstanding post. It’s pathetic marketing attempts like this that really make me question the industry I work within. Makes it seem so pointless, and quite frankly lame.

    Thanks for giving me a chuckle, it could be time to retire and go setup a margarita stand on a beach somewhere :-).

  53. MeetingFlex.com

    Telling people that they have a personality like a dumb-grey printer.

    So sick……

    These guys are going to finish the social networking industry by applying sn concepts to selling hardware.

    http://www.meetingflex.com
    Social Networking+Video

  54. Jamie

    That was a good article until the pointless last line.

  55. Chris

    Yes I agree with Mike, this site is useless.

  56. Michael Arrington

    Fred - #51 - no it’s quite serious. they sent me an emai to get me to write about it and said:

    “Hello Michael,

    Personality and innovation are driving a new Epson interactive marketing effort launching on Monday, Oct. 29, and we’d like to offer you an early sneak peak. Called, Epsonality, the campaign assigns personality traits to products giving consumers a fun and easy way to select a printer that’s right for them.

    Please take a minute to discover your Epsonality and let me know if you have any questions or would like to speak with Epson about the new campaign

    Thanks!”

  57. agnieszka

    May be mistaken, but believe correct line of questioning is

    “What is the first animal you see upon entering a forest?”

    Followed then by if and how you would engage such animal. :)

  58. Doeboy

    Consultants are morons

  59. Amit Chowdhry

    “My perfect emotional printer partner?” It sounds like they want you to make love to your computer peripherals. When they’re not smoking crack, the creators of this site probably enjoy scanning their buttocks on the Epson Expression 10000XL-Graphic Arts (priced at $2500) too:

    http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/S.....;oid=-8172

  60. Mike

    Utterly pitiful set of comments and a stunningly boring post. Next.

  61. Jon A.

    Michael,

    In Epson’s defense, they are the last remaning manufacturer of “open source” printers today. That this, try buying cheap inkjet refills for any other printer on eBay. You’ll find that HP, Lexmark, and Canon all place proprietary chips on their printer cartridges, locking out competition and screwing customers who must fork over artificially high prices for replacement ink. Epson could easily follow the same path, if not for their stated policy of doing what’s best for consumers.

    Epson remains the most consumer friendly printer company around. I wouldn’t be so fast to slam a company that is generally on our side.

  62. Elay

    is techcrunch getting a commission for this post from Epson?

  63. Kevin Bartus

    Dude, you’ve officially jumped the shark.

    You’re like a grouchy and undertrained Jakob Neilsen.

    Love your blog, but it’s getting to your head. This is why real journalists have bosses.

  64. Misanthropy Today

    Mike Arrington, if you ever urge anyone to build a Facebook app again, brother, there’s not a sewer in Chinatown that I wont crawl through to flamethrower the TechCrunch headquarters.

  65. Kevin Bartus

    OK, missed the part where they invited you to comment.

    So I take back part of my post.

    But seriously, leave the usability/marketing awards comments to people who do that stuff. Having a VC ask you to comment on an upcoming launch is your forte IMHO. Having a marketing company ask you to comment on a new site is like looking for fashion advice from Pee Wee Herman.

  66. Steve Ballmer

    I thought bother were fine! Modeled after the MSN homepage, you can’t get more professional, functional and cutting edge than that!

    http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

  67. Edward Printer

    Yes, the consumer oriented Epson printers are lame. But, if you know anything about the high-end, professional grade models, Epson leads the pack. Pro photographers and graphic artists swear by Epson printer equipment. The printer ink is a bit expensive, but the quality is rediculously good.

  68. Fred Winchar

    I get your blog in my email and normally I never comment but this one just drove me over the edge. You trashed them so well I just HAD to see what you were talking about. I clicked the link. Went to the site and in about 1 minute left, mid way thru the process. All I can say is that you should have trashed them even more! That actually hurt my head. So, in all fairness, and because I don’t think that they have the slightest bit of savvy, I will try and give them some props…

    1) The color in the background is a nice blue. Reminds me of tidybowl, pre-flush, before it mixes with other unattractive colors.

    2) The gentleman talking has an interesting and appealing grin. I think he is thinking how happy is to get paid for something this stupid. He probably is thinking about how good this will look when he tries to pickup his night time fodder at the local pub. Score!

    3) The questions make you really think hard. Being this bad takes work and money. Someone out in Epson corporate has money to burn and really hates Epson. I keep thinking to myself how I can contact this person and see what else he may be interested in. Boy do I have ideas! Don’t get me going on my idea for a printer that can print stuff from a computer. I know… crazy.

    4) It’s in flash! Gosh who doesn’t like flash huh? You go to find a printer and you get this flash fun! Don’t know about you but I kept on thinking that at some point the scientist will just lose it, grab a printer and crack it on the head of that grinning speaker. That would be way cool in flash. Hope I didn’t stop watching too soon.

    5) It totally gave me a clear understanding of Epson. I am 100% convinced that Epson is like the “disneyland” of printer companies. Or maybe I’m just being goofy.

    6) Made you think about what you would do with $199.99 extra in your pocket. I’m thinking 180 Super Tacos, $1 menu (pre-tax of course). Then again, they DID show it in pennies. So maybe if I had $199.99 in pennies, I would just go panhandle someone for one more penny so I can say I had $200. Then I would wonder what I could buy for $200 in pennies! Good golly… those Epson people just keep me thinking!

    So Kudos Epson! Next time I need a laugh, I’m gonna drop by for a visit. You guy just crack me up!

  69. Daniel Gibbons

    @ Guy Smith (#50). You’re giving them far too much credit. No one is going to fall for such a contrived and obvious exercise (and it’s a disservice to draw analogies between this brutally lame website and the manipulative but brilliant ads created by Coke). Aside from the awful execution, no-one, repeat no-one, is going to see buying an Epson printer as a reflection of their own values and aspirations. Think of it this way, the Epson site is the equivalent of Coca Cola creating a survey that asks people: “Do you want to teach the world to sing?” and on the basis of a Yes answer recommending they drink Coke

  70. dEEPS

    You folks at TechCrunch also fall for “stupid” things @ times and waste a post on it (eg. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007.....s-startup/)
    Remember that other people around the world can also ‘fall’ for things, just as other people can also laugh out at you for reviewing “stupid” things.

  71. yongfook

    “The consultants who are pitching this crap should be called on it.”

    Mike, whilst it not may be to your taste, unless you know for sure that this campaign hasn’t increased sales, then your animosity towards the consultants is unfounded. “Crap” is subjective of course, and is the kind of commentary that I’d expect to see on any old blog. This is Techcrunch - lets hear about the sales figures and marketing costs, how the campaign has failed miserably, THEN call it crap ;)

  72. Dave

    That could be individual view but it is not good parameter to evaluate a brand product with the site if it is not at that same level.

  73. Bart

    Where’s the link to the site ?!

  74. Sally

    Mikey:

    You slam this application and give positive press to a dumb thing like the aliens in your very next post? You absolutely have no journalistic integrity and consistently try to use this channel to gain power with the masses trying to make a buck via the Web. Quit endorsing dumb ideas and attacking ones from companies that don’t stroke your ego or push money your way! This kind of crap will eventually be the end of this property.

  75. Jeff

    Well… at least Epson was mature and professional in their failure. You the pseudo-journalist on the other hand just ranted in public in an attempt to look cool. Fail.

  76. Olivier L

    How much did HP pay you for this post ?

  77. Hot New Looks

    Definitely a paid article!!! Sellout/

  78. bavb

    amit #59, thanks for the laugh.

    however, hp is no better i filled out their questionnaire to pick the best printer for me, checked the fax capabilities box and ordered what they suggested. stupid me. when i got the printer there was no faxing capabilities. thanks for the memories hp. and what’s with their gwen stefani tie-in. sheesh.

  79. Guy

    lol, epson really makes stupid in-competant printers.

    I had insane ink problems with my girlfriend’s C3500.
    (it just wouldn’t print B/W pages when the color cartridges were finished!)

  80. JerryK

    I agree with comments about Epson printers… they really do suck! I just went through three (yes three) of their R380’s in two weeks (they kept sending me replacements) all with the same problem.. the printer would not recognize the cartridges (genuine Epson’s shipped with the printer). After the third failure (and being without a printer for two weeks) customer service agreed to give me a full refund. I bought an HP D7360 the same day for half the cost of the Epson, had it installed and running perfectly in less than 20 minutes. This is the first time I have had the experience of a North American mfr. bettering an offshore one. Maybe Detroit can learn something from HP.

  81. Dude

    Mike, damn good “call-out” on the polution. It’s so lame and completely out-of-touch. It’s just one more example of these big companies with their big marketing budgets completely not getting it.

  82. RP

    Anyone try usability testing? I think this would be best done as a parody/entertainment rather than some hokey personality test. This is like one of those Cosmo “are you the right personality for your man” tests. I wonder exactly how many leads they generate out of this campaign? — but sadly so many companies miss the point - when their numbers come back, someone’s going to get fired.

  83. RP

    and one more thing - emotional product appeals work for products like consumables/status/living - coke, wine, food, home, your car as status symbol, etc. — could even work for your phone since it’s a part of who you are (iphone an example…) - but a printer???? you got to be kidding!

  84. Deborah

    I’ve been staring at an Epsonality billboard that was illegally pasted on the side of a building across from my house for over 1/2 a month. I haven’t taken the epsonality test, but I’m sure Epson’s Epsonality is that they prefer corporate greed to abiding by city ordinances.

  85. yarışma

    That was a good article until the pointless last line