Also, in response to #3, they actually don’t give away 100% of their software to everyone. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing – it’s quite possibly a sounder business model – but let’s call a spade a spade. If you’re a commercial user, you should be paying for it.

… excuse me, you NTN’s said something?

http://fakestev...er.blogspot.com

But I would say these numbers mean that there is huge potential for a MySQL IPO since there is vast potential to drive more adoption of the MySQL Enterprise products and associated modules and support / maintenance revenue.

-Morpheus

http://this-wee...ts.blogspot.com

GUID Nite!

SCO should’ve sue Kenneth Brown, Linus Torvalds ,and Andrew S. Tanenbaum for millions. They took Unix stuff.

many users of oracle are also mysql users. they are not mutually exclusive.

Now there is nothing wrong with a big Co taking the open source products and making mad $$$ at the expense of the devoted few that work tirelessly for no $$$ making the open source product what it is!

(cough…) DELL (sniff…)

mySQL is fine for a startup (like most of the sites covered on TC), but the money is in the enterprise and those companies go with the big boys.

If you are unfamiliar with business intelligence (cubes and anlaysis services in the MS world), it’s extremely compelling and a must have for enterprises. After talking to some mySQL DBAs, I don’t believe mySQL has anything like this.

That is also a good link about MySQL.
You can browse all the sites that use it like Wikipedia, flickr and Youtube. I remember reading that it was used extensively in the auto industry as well.

“and much less mySQL/Postgres. Why???”

They have tons of money to throw around, enough to burn money in the furnace for warmth on a hot summer day. MS support can fix problems in their own software, but that tier of support from MS is like 200 bucks an hour. It’s very expensive. Digg wouldn’t survive one support incident on that tier.

“Why??? because of support and scalability. Does mySQL have business intelligence and clustering on par with MSSQL or Oracle??? I think not.”

MySQL-cluster can actually support up to 64 nodes.
http://en.wikip...i/MySQL_Cluster
“Currently a maximum of 64 nodes can belong to a single MySQL Cluster with up to 48 of those being data nodes. ”

That’s pretty big. Consider that an entire SAN with a single set of /var/lib/mysql files would be a single node, and the limit in the src’s is 64, and you can change that by modifying the sources. That’s pretty massive. I doubt it would respond too well if you pushed it, but still.

“Does mySQL have business intelligence and clustering on par with MSSQL or Oracle??? I think not.”

Are you talking about LINQ? Sun is putting that into Java now, and most of the FOSS languages are doing some type of LINQ-ish implementation. I know that MySQL had not implemented the XML storage specifications of the ANSI/ISO SQL 2005 standard, which I believe is yet to be ratified, but that’s pretty obscure.

Is that what you meant? Or are you just spewing business nonsense to look cool in the board room? hint, we’re not in the board room.

This doesn’t mean anything without benchmarks done by a reliable test suite.
Back up the words with statistics.

Certain applications such as search engines that have a full index of the internet such as Yahoo, Google ect… can not use any SQL based relational database because they are impractical. At that level no commercial managed data storage system can work.

So there are always extremes. I know eBay runs on Sun and Oracle
http://www.sun....ervers/ebay.xml

What does it really mean?
windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/18741/18741.html
” Online auction mega-site eBay was offline for over 24 hours this weekend, causing an estimated $2-3 million loss of business for the company. But the company was eager to spread the blame and offset some of the embarrassment by blaming the outage on its reliance on software from Sun Microsystems and Oracle.”

Do you think Oracle handed them that 2-3 million in loss back because their software didn’t cut it? NOPE. That’s what EULAs are for and they all have them no matter how much you pay or how closed source/black box the database software is.

At least with MySQL and MaxDB, you can take the source code, and unit test it, and FIX BUGS. Geez…. I mean if you’re that IBMo enterprise, surely you have a couple coders to pee into MySQL and make it sweet for your implementation right?

@Exchange – fair enough, I write software and it’s not perfect, but we’re talking public company here. Anyway. I live off of MSFT products and platforms for my livelihood, & they probably helped set the bar lower than it might otherwise have been (and yes, yes I know that sofware is often released at 95% completion rate b/c the remaining 5% can take as long as the first 95%…).