Yes it will be really interesting to watch the growth of P2P internet Tv with that of flash based videos.

Not more ActiveX BS. sigh.

thats the next step. facebook will have their own browser. It’s all coming to your desktop. what goes around comes around. Web started by going away from desktop, noti t will come back to desktop. Don’t know where will it go next. may be mainframes..don’t know!

@Thinker

perhaps we will go to thin clients and all computing will be done in the cloud, which sounds to me much like mainframe computing…

They were suppose to make FLASH base website. Instead… They created steriod P2P application which require extreme high speed connection, and super fast computer that doesn’t exist today.

Almost everyone sign up joost beta verison… It’s all buggy, slow, crashes…
Compete & Alexa display rating dropped like titanic.
My friend said, “Joost sucks. It’s talentless application.” I was like “oh…”

Will Joost bring fans & people back?

I don’t know… It’s very difficult. I won’t download nothing from Joost’s update verison. Joost hype have turn into prune joost.

How about this joost mashup with a ton of video players?

http://www.paulyanez.com/labs/.....index.html

I don’t think skydivers, surfer, skaterboy, hackers, teens, college students willing watch internet TV. No body care about free internet TV like HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, NETFLIX moviestream, etc…. They want Youtube. People like become star in their own show.

Have you ever type “Joost sucks” on web search engine?

We are not TV zombies anymore.

@6….
Don’t waste your time.
Just Save it.
No one will download joost mashup.
Just look at ALEXA & COMPETE ratings.

Joost sucks. It requires an install and requires that your net connection is saturated with their data. When you upload at high rate to other sites, you can’t do anything on your machine that requires a net connection. Big thumbs down on that!

Also, their limited number of shows is awful. It’s all C-grade programming that failed on TV. Why would anyone wanna watch absolute garbage when they can get only the good stuff on other sites?!?

The idea of building a service like Joost on top of a P2P platform is pretentious - it’s optimized for the Joost (the company), not the end user.

Joost should have seen the future a long time ago - advances in technology now allow anyone to deliver very high quality video in the browser, without an additional download and install.

Of course Joost has to figure out how to solve the distribution costs - but that’s their problem. Someone will figure it out, and a solution that pains the end-user isn’t gonna be the one that wins.

1. Why would you spend $45 million for talentless programmer?

It’s almost like this. Would you spend $300 million A-Rod who can’t hit make into World Series?

You have take “No” for an answer.

ugh, what’s up with all the broken english in these comments? please learn the language, then rip on stuff. otherwise you just look like a dumbass.

I used joost in the beta period and it was pretty sweet - I watched a bunch of national geographic programs on the pyramids and some pretty lame comedy central cartoons that weren’t very funny. but that was the beta, so i bet they have better programming by now…i just don’t have time.

Who uses Joost?

guys starting a new thing…have so many thoughts..always thought that it was my idea..anyways, penning down all the thoughts not because i am frustrated, but because I am selfish. When i write it I become even more creative. If enough people like it I’ll continue else will stop.

http://thinkincell.blogspot.com

2 typos… : “Joost will have to respond with it’s own browser-based expereince.” –> “Joost will have to respond with its own browser-based experience.”

@gilltots

it seems some of the comments are coming from people using language translation.

All are welcome on techCrunch.

the killer of surrent satalite/cable TV system is existed for 2 years, if you could speack chinese. Many Chinese p2p systems are been popular with millions of users every day. It is a big problem for JOoooost to has millions users on the test, while their Chinese competitors are broadcasting live TV to the world for years. The result is so different on the performance, TVkoo, one of a Chinese system could run 400 channels with 10 server * 100Mbps with one millions users online concurrently.

The streaming revolution on cost is coming, with many existing competitors, PPlive, PPstream, TVKoo, Sohu, Rowflow, Octshape, Kazza, feidian, roxbeam, uusee,mysee. As a freshman, Joost are rather good at software interface than performance of usesr, quality and cost. Beside the name of founders, what could made Joost go on?

While the day Joost turned to focus on live streaming, it seemed the world will see another war against Chinese product. The streaming revolution on cost is coming, with many existing competitors, PPlive, PPstream, TVKoo, Sohu, Rowflow(britih), Octshape(danmark), Kazza(sweden), feidian, roxbeam, uusee,mysee,mediazone(TVKoo empowered), most from China. As a freshman, Joost are rather good at software interface than performance of usesr, quality and cost. Beside the name of founders, what could be the point to keep Joost go on?

I think Joost needs to be browser based to make an impact…whilst I have been using it since it was the Venice Project, and now watch virtually all of my tv legally over the web (unfortunately I have to watch Studio 60 on the traditional TV), Joost has never managed to become a major tv source for me because I don’t come across it as part of my usual browsing activities and it is not constantly updated like the iPlayer

Too late for them, they had their chance and they messed it up. Browser based version would probably use java or require an additional Joost plugin which is just encroaching the point of stupidity.

Let’s see the Joost Alternatives that are browser based:
http://www.freetube.us.tc
http://www.paulyanez.com/swfs/j_prototype.swf

I’d rather stick with the application. Joost video playback is really amazing.

Joost still seem to think that internet TV is a technology problem rather than a content problem - that is why they will never succeed.

Joost is awesome!

My only beef is the P2P software that either makes your computer function in slow-mo, or crashes whenever you play certain shows.

With many other television networks (like CBS, SciFi Channel, etc.) allowing users to watch shows through their favorite browser, Joost would be wise to consider following suit.

If not, I will have no reason to keep it on my machine.

I tested Joost - and was dissapointed. Infact it is so borring, sucks big time! Deleted it less than 30min after i installed it. Content sucks - it is not even close to being TV like - more YouTube like. It just has videos or prerecorded content, no live tv, live sports… and no porn or hot naked babes or any other interesting content. They were promissing so much and delivered so little!

So far the best TV website out there is http://www.chooseandwatch.com/ . It is nothing like Joost. It aggregates streaming video channels from around the web, from a mixture of mainstream TV channels to more amateur, independent networks. It claims to have 435 channels. From a content selection standpoint C&W beats Joost hands down. It even offers adult content area – nice

Looks like Joost has all the media attention and everyone blogs about it only because of its famous founders - not to mention they probably pay to be on digg so often.

After months of promising the Linux crowd a beta client was just around the corner how are we to believe in a promised browser based version? Are you hiring the engineering talent that brought us the currently available Miro?

Seems like Mike Volpi had to say that since he was on stage at a Web 2.0 conference and also the recent pressure he must have felt of Techcrunch stating that the clock is ticking for Joost - with the new flash player support for H.264 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007.....for-joost/

Adobe will be entering the game with their own flash video player that does all the things that Joost does http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Media_Player

Chime.tv is another excellent solution that has been around for quite some time.

There is also browser based Joost clone http://www.paulyanez.com/labs/joost/ that’s been online since July and an updated version http://www.paulyanez.com/labs/joostbeta1/ that emerged just a few weeks after the beta was released.

The one common thing betweeen these are the use of flash as the technology. Joost has invested over a year in XUL.
Let’s hope Joost is serious in wanting to make a browser based version. It might make more sense to just buy a solution instead of trying to getting into the web development arena since so far they’ve been building a client based application.

21 richard
In fact, technology is important, at least as content, that is why all media titans are waiting for the right time and perfect solution on web TV. But before Joost, if you tried rawflow, TVkoo, PPstream, PPlive, Kazzar, octshape, you will not say their technology are all same as what those media giants need.

try them, really different

Joost is dead…. we all know it. Too many good video alternatives out there. Who wants to watch c-rated TV shows on a p2p application sucking up CPU and bandwidth. Wait a new browser based application… a bit late maybe?

Joost is already dead, thanks to the lack of net neutrality and ISPs cutting off ‘heavy users’

it doesn’t help that the content sucks about as much as the software, can’t forget the ads either.