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Justin.TV Lifecasters Not Welcome Everywhere (like movie theaters)
by Michael Arrington on October 15, 2007

Justin.tv “lifecasters” are starting to get the cold shoulder when they bring their video cameras into situations that people don’t necessarily want recorded.

Sarah Meyers was recently booted out of a book reading in New York. Less surprisingly, another Justin.TV lifecaster, Ronald Lewis, was told he couldn’t record a movie at a theater and had to put his video camera away before the movie started. He wasn’t kicked out, but that didn’t stop him from calling the confused but polite manager as a “fucking bitch” as he walked away. The video clip is above, and his blog post on the incident is here.

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  • Wow…that is an angry dude. What were his expectations?

    My guess is that if she had a mic on, you would have heard her call him a f*@$ing retard as he walked away…so probably tit for tat.

  • Oooo Ooooo I should take my lifecast into the jury room with me. Were deliberating about a suspected movie pirated.

    I mean DUH, she was in the right in regards to the law.

  • The woman in that clip was actually very polite. Whether or not she understands what it is that he does (probably not, and she shouldn’t have too since it’s such a new thing), she explains kindly and calmly what she needs from him.

    The guy in the video on the other hand is pretty much a jerk to her. He basically lies when she asks if it’s a video camera, then is very short with her after she tells him he can’t bring it in stating that ‘he takes it everywhere with him’(I wish that logic worked with everything).

    He seems pissed off at the notion that he is a pirate, but she never actually accuses him of anything directly, she just says that the reason they don’t let cameras into the theater is because it is a piracy issue.

    Lifecasting is a new deal, you can’t expect everyone to understand it, and really you can’t even expect anyone to want to understand it. If you want to educate people about it be my guest, you might even see encounters like this one as an opportunity to educate them, but being short, refusing to comply with fairly simple requests, and calling people names is no way to go about it.

  • The guy comes off looking like a jerk more than anything. I doubt 99% of the world even cares about this “lifecasting” non-sense.

  • all we want to know is how much Justin.tv raised…and not the $50,000 the other amount he wont tell people when he gets drunk!

  • What a douchebag!

    * First he lies…

    Theater Manager: “Um, sir, is that a camera?”
    Douchebag Guy: “No, it’s actually not. It’s a little device that I use to record my life.”

    Hello, that’s what most people call a camera, Ronald.

    * Then, he fails to understand the ramifications of taking video recording equipment into a movie theater….

    Douchebag Guy: “It’s not like I’m a pirate or anything”

    Earth to Ron, the whole purpose of your camera is to broadcast everything you see to the world. By broadcasting the movie via your blog, you would by definition be a pirate.

    * Then he calls her a “fucking bitch” for doing her job?

    I’m sorry, but this just set me over the edge. Is this guy so self important that he thinks no one matters but himself? I understand the idea of wanting to broadcast your life, but not everyone cares. This poor girl managing the movie theater was just doing her job. In my opinion, she was very calm, courteous, and professional. This guy comes across as a total douchebag, and I’m glad I do not know him personally.

  • To his defense Cory, I don’t think he wasn’t going to show the movie, but yes, he was a jerk face.

  • @ Arrington. How much did Justin.TV raise for the second time?

  • This makes total scene, I wouldn’t want somebody recording me if I’m doing somethings, and a movie theater all of Hollywood is worried about piracy so it only makes scene that they would would tell him to turn it off.

  • This isn’t worth being put on TechCrunch. I understand that it’s an interesting perspective on lifecasting but does this deserve to be on tech crunch?

  • adam - yes, this deserves to be on techcrunch.

  • @Wesley (#7) - Clearly he did not intend to pirate the movie, but that girl didn’t know him or his intentions. All she knew was that some guy was going into her theater with video recording equipment. In my opinion, she was well within her rights to confiscate his equipment and give it back to him only after he left the theater. The fact that she didn’t just shows how patient she was and how undeserving she was of being called “fucking bitch”.

    I think he should go back to that theater with his camera rolling and apologize to that girl. Only then will this guy maybe earn my respect.

  • Hey Mike - since you are trolling the comments…I thought I would give you some thanks for getting those videos up on the TC40 site (not sure if I missed the post announcing they were up?). I spent a few hours watching them this evening…they were great…tks.

  • Yes…i also think it is good to have this on Techcrunch.

    People should be aware what a moron this guy is and how badly this reflects on Justin.tv. Justin.tv should teach their “life recorder” to have some basic manners and respect to other especially when they treated with respect.

  • No wonder this jerk wad is going to the movies by himself…..

  • Oh God. He may have overreacted a bit, but it’s clear he was startled. He’s well aware of piracy issues. His initial response shows that he had it in the back of his mind.

    I know Ron personally, and have discussed this clip with him. He expressed that he felt he was being accused for something he was not doing. That’s why he reacted the way he did. Hell, I made the clip myself 2 days ago. Had I known people were going to pull it off of his jtv page and bash him about it, I would have never made the edits. Overreacted? Maybe. But a lying moron? definately not.

  • Man - Ronald Lewis is a fucking assclown

    His smug and condescending attitude to an otherwise polite theater employee is a reflection of what a prick that guy is

    I would love to run into Ronald somewhere and accidentally slap the camera off his face

  • 18th Post!!!

    Who watches this stuff?!?

    Oh wait…. Please watch more!

    - Michael

  • DrPepper:

    He walked into a movie theater with a camera. What is the woman, who is jus t doing her job, supposed to think?

    This guy acts as if people should give a hoot about his “lifecast.”

  • why is she a “f’n bitch”?

    the dude was bringing recording equipment inside a movie theatre - end of discussion, that’s not allowed.

    so turn that cam off. quickly. now.

    i hate people on cell phones, they’re annoying.
    i could only imagine the site of some dude with a camera attached to the side of his head.

    @4, i agree…who wants to watch this lifecasting “nonsense”. it’s only worthwhile to watch if the cam is on someone popular doing important issues.

  • Varin - He gets stopped and accused of this stuff nearly everyday… he didn’t say anything about anyone ‘caring about his lifecast.’ Seriously. Like I said, he may have overreacted a bit, but after the 100th time of being accused of something it gets old.

    There was a guy that went through the drive thru at mcdonalds with his webcam about a month ago.. They called the police because he pointed the cam at the drive thru lady.. it’s ridiculous. i mean damn.

  • #16 so what you are saying is you are Ronald Lewis. LoL

  • DrPepper - Just to be clear, Ron emailed me to tell me about this. Given what I do, I assume that was a request for a post.

  • Who wouldn’t love to drop an inadvertent elbow into this pile of douche? Bunch of belligerent Lobot-wannabes walking around making scenes…

  • You guys are a bunch of idiots man, I have personally been with him in situations where people will become raging assholes just because they want to pretend they are a celebrity. Including but not limited to putting things to block their face, refusing to comment on anything, running away to alert other people as if he has the ebola virus or something. His camera is focused on him 90% of the time except when he’s transporting his set up. All of you flamers can go to the hot place and sizzle F U.

  • DrPepper

    “it’s ridiculous” - no, it’s called private property.

    And he did imply people care about his lifecast, “I average 60,000 viewers a month on my lifecast.”

    Nobody knows he gets accused 100 times of anything, and no one cares except him. In all likelihood he needs to be accused about 1000 times more so he just stops altogether.

    He is a consummate toolbar.

  • That was a funny video. Never imagined that two words could cause people to post negative comments about a guy you don’t know. Yes, lifecasting is a new arena, but how many times do we hear “fucking bitch” in a movie? Ronald is now, a movie star at the theater.

  • silverak4 - if someone doesn’t want to be on live video, it makes them a pretend celebrity? I don’t undestand…

  • wow, i kept reading about justin.tv but never clicked onto the website because the concept seemed dumb. (is anybody’s life really that interesting to watch 24/7????) but now that i’ve watched one clip, i’m assured that my assumptions were right. So…good job on getting my first and last click. the worst part of this video is that the girl was actually really nice and she got called a bitch? mmmm k.

  • Whether or not she understands what it is that he does

    What does he do beside be a dorkwad that wants to record everything? Oh, that’s so …. edgy!

  • We can’t judge a book by its cover but based off that video, Ron comes off like a dick. He may be a perfectly nice guy, but the problem is that based on that one video, I really don’t want to watch any of his other videos or read his blog to learn about him and his life.

    On another note, Ron may be broadcasting his life but he also sells ads off it. It brings up an interesting conundrum of sorts. If he did in fact broadcast parts of the movie and sold advertising on it…

  • I think it’s funny the only people defending him are apparently his friends. Any unbiased person can clearly see who’s in the wrong in this situation.

  • Ah, the full on crazy trainwreck.

    When I clicked on the site, was rather shocked. To each his / her own. Interesting to know that this is out there.

  • Michael — Thanks for taking an interest and sharing this with your readers.

    For everyone else: You can’t possibly know much about one’s life based on a minute of video. Carry on …

  • @Mikey A….not wanting to be on camera does not make you a wanna be celeb but pretending like your face is so recognizable that you have to hide it and run from the camera does :) Hope that clears it up, if you need further explaination you might need more help than I can give you :(

  • I was aware that putting a camera on your head made you look like a douchebag, but i wasn’t aware that it would make you act like one too.

    “To be an avid moviegoer and face an egotistical power broker such as Bryanna is a real slap in the face.” —— I’m not sure he is the right person to be commenting on ego, especially in light of this video….. Somehow Bryanna isn’t striking me as the Egotistical Power Broker type….

    Bryanna, “Is that a camera?”

    Ronald, “No, it’s not. It’s actually just a little device to broadcast my life.”

    Um, ok………..douchebag of the day 10/15/07… thanks for playing….buh bye.

  • All right. I understand lifecasting may be very important to you, Mr. Lewis, and to many others. I can also understand that it is a new, exciting, and adventurous tool to connect with thousands of other people globally. I commend those same people for having the security to do this everyday of thier lives without fear of criticism and privacy.

    However, as such, we also need to keep in mind that there are some people who are or may be ignorant to these types of technological tools that our society is adapting to right now. Piracy is a HUGE problem right now. People are going to prison for this issue and it can be a serious price to pay. Mr. Lewis, and I urge you to consider this woman’s position; and perhaps your own. Say, for instance, you were to be taken to jail over this? How would that make you feel? Please do not see my comments as incriminating, because that simply isn’t so. But instead, try to see things through this perspective.

  • Oh man, this is hilarious. Thanks for posting the link to this. Like the overwhelming majority of web users, I don’t spend time on Justin.tv.

    Yeah, you got to be a serious douchebag to announce your a “lifecaster” and take that as seriously as this guy does.

    LOL

  • ron has an inferiority complex against ‘the man’

    that’s why he called that girl, the person in charge, a “f’n bitch” for telling him to remove that camera off of his head…and she also referred to him as a potential pirate, aaarrrghhh lol

  • Heh.

    “You can’t possibly know much about one’s life based on a minute of video. Carry on …” - #34

    “the way you do one thing is the way you do everything” - paraphrased buddhist proverb

  • The point of this whole news story seems to be missed by a lot of people, that in general, Lifecasters are not being allowed in places cameras are not allowed. Now it has turned into victimizing the manager. She did nothing wrong, she was very polite, and she has no obligation to know what lifecasting is, why you have the camera, or any other information. Cameras are not allowed, the jerk guy had a camera.. seems pretty simple to me. He should have just put away the camera and stfu. Yes he was a jerk, he was using a sarcastic tone with her the whole time while she was being polite. I don’t see why he is being held up as the good guy in this whole situation…

    Out of all situations we choose “going into the movie theater”. Great choice, you’re just setting yourself up for that when you walk into a theater with your freaking camera on. Had he been walking into a McDonalds or something maybe that would be a different story.

    Oh really? Who would have thought that? Oh wait, lifecasters use CAMERAS. Obviously they aren’t pirates, I understand that, BUT with todays screwed up piracy laws and the exposure “pirates” are getting these days, she had every right to tell him to turn it off. I’m sorry she didn’t say “oh no it’s fine, go ahead and tape one of the movies”. You know if she would have let him in, he would have dang well had that camera on.

  • Lawrence –

    I think it’s time to put your “antics” to rest. You detest the fact that I don’t support social constructs such as “race.” I’m the last person to have any complex about “the man” — that would be you.

  • .. and the douchebag said “no its not a camera”… wow. had to add that.. and also clarify… was going back through what i wrote, … ^forgot to switch the 2nd and third paragraph.. i started writing in the middle and creating a new paragraph, completely screwed up the logical flow of that comment.

    sorry for double post.

  • For the record:

    I make no apologies for being proud of my work as a social media producer and “lifecaster.” The community I’ve built is the result of hours of time being spent engaging with people who are otherwise ignored by this medium and its most popular personalities. While “lifecasting” may not be around forever, it has afforded me a priceless opportunity to create relationships which I may not have previously had access to. Everyday, I am grateful for the opportunity to be a resource and destination for those who seek to be understood, accepted and heard.

    Regardless of your opinions, I make no apology for being human. I’m sure you’ve all responded similarly to situations which caused you to be defensive and/or disrespectful in some way. We’ve all done it, and it’s certainly not the end of the world, nor does it make us terrible people.

    For someone who has taken more than his fair share of judgment and poor treatment, this incident isn’t even a drop in the bucket. Walk a mile in my shoes and you’ll understand what’s like to be and live as Ronald Lewis.

  • FAUX CELEB ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nobody cares about your life except for Palmala and her 5 friends…so get off that pedestal b4 you fall and hurt yourself…u prick!!!

  • Yeah its no big deal as long as look back and think … Gee that was a little harsh of me, I should try not to be like that in the future … but if you look back and do not notice what is obvious to the rest of us … then it is a big deal.

  • arrogant. no one wants to understand you, and no one cares. But the way you abuse the manager is damn rude and stupid.

    get a life. for a person with such a self centered mind should keep on boardcase ur life and watch it urself over and over again.

  • i wish i won’t be fall to a guy like you. What if you want to board cast our bedroom activities and tell me this is your life? and call me a fuc’ing bitch when i refuse?

    I have less arguments than the manager since I am not on a job or whatever. that sure makes me a whore from your perspective.

    “walk in my shoes and you will understand why I need to show you naked to my lovely 60K viewers” . help~

  • Michael - your responses to comments in this thread are weird, unprofessional, and almost childish (”NO MY BLOG I DO WHAT I WANT”). And this ron fellow is an asshole. Nobody gives a s**t about his life or his lifecast, and he was CLEARLY trying to start something - hovering around the concession stand til someone approached him, then making a condescending comment about it being a “device” not a camera. Toolbag. Seriously, I am so thrown off that this is on techcrunch. You guys post a lot of bs (and unfortunately much more so since the readership went up) but this is beyond stupid. Did Erick get a hold of Mike’s account?

    Please god please stop this crap. You guys have gotten literally hundreds of posts in the past couple of days slamming the new style of bs that techcrunch is posting. Please pay attention to them.

  • “Walk a mile in my shoes and you’ll understand what’s like to be and live as Ronald Lewis.”

    Priceless comment, but I’d rather not. And don’t try to elicit sympathy after showing us a video of you being a jackass.

    I hate to have given you one extra hit on your site, but this is a glorious statement: ‘Would any pirate wear a camera for the public to see? Highly unlikely.” Did you consider that after (basically) lying to her about your camera, she might question your intentions?

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