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	<title>Comments on: TokBox Gets Some NYTimes Love</title>
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		<title>By: MaxGXL Benefits of Glutathione   &#187; MaxGXL Glutathione</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-2053405</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1679870</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys don't get it... This is not about new tech but about executing. And so far these guys are executing better than anyone before them (at least judging by ppl involved and ease of use)

Jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys don&#8217;t get it&#8230; This is not about new tech but about executing. And so far these guys are executing better than anyone before them (at least judging by ppl involved and ease of use)</p>
<p>Jp</p>
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		<title>By: toyqueen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1678876</link>
		<dc:creator>toyqueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm working for a company that has similiar technology. Be that as it may, I don't see a big future there.

Gail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working for a company that has similiar technology. Be that as it may, I don&#8217;t see a big future there.</p>
<p>Gail</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Herot</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1677658</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Herot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire their PR but wonder why the NYT made such a big deal.  This has been done many, many times before.

Three problems they will face:

1.  Most people like to watch, few people want to be on camera.  AT&#38;T discovered this at the New York Worlds Fair in 1964.  Every few years the cost comes down and someone tries it again.  Same result.

2.  Unlike Skype, Flash is not P2P.  Bandwidth and FMS license fees make for incremental cost for each user.

3.  Two-way interactive video is WAY more demanding on network performance than streaming stored video.  It works great on a great network, but deteriorates quickly when packet loss or latency goes up.  With stored video you can buffer, but buffering means awkward delays in a two-way conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire their PR but wonder why the NYT made such a big deal.  This has been done many, many times before.</p>
<p>Three problems they will face:</p>
<p>1.  Most people like to watch, few people want to be on camera.  AT&amp;T discovered this at the New York Worlds Fair in 1964.  Every few years the cost comes down and someone tries it again.  Same result.</p>
<p>2.  Unlike Skype, Flash is not P2P.  Bandwidth and FMS license fees make for incremental cost for each user.</p>
<p>3.  Two-way interactive video is WAY more demanding on network performance than streaming stored video.  It works great on a great network, but deteriorates quickly when packet loss or latency goes up.  With stored video you can buffer, but buffering means awkward delays in a two-way conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1677416</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tokbox is cool.  But I agree, the tech has been around for some time.  Nothing new.  Check out the similar video on the fly app from VideoBloom... great app for on the fly video emails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tokbox is cool.  But I agree, the tech has been around for some time.  Nothing new.  Check out the similar video on the fly app from VideoBloom&#8230; great app for on the fly video emails.</p>
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		<title>By: Are you kidding?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1677402</link>
		<dc:creator>Are you kidding?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe this is getting so much press.  Big deal.  Not new tech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe this is getting so much press.  Big deal.  Not new tech.</p>
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		<title>By: 4market</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1677293</link>
		<dc:creator>4market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the point about Sequoia doing their diligence... Sure, it's important to note that the barrier to entry for a one-to-one or one-to-many flash-based video conferencing application is fairly low from an implementation standpoint. Go pick up a copy of O'Reilly's "Programming FCS" or "Programming FMS2". eyejot, userplane and others have been doing this for some time, in various incarnations. Flash is, by nature, an embedded application, so no news there.

At the end of the day, tho, the real question is not "can this be done by anyone", it's really "who can afford to do this". To truly scale this to a profitable margin, they'll need the big bucks -- for bandwidth, cpu and marketing. It'll be interesting to see where 4m gets them.

I expect we'll see more web apps like this over the next 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the point about Sequoia doing their diligence&#8230; Sure, it&#8217;s important to note that the barrier to entry for a one-to-one or one-to-many flash-based video conferencing application is fairly low from an implementation standpoint. Go pick up a copy of O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s &#8220;Programming FCS&#8221; or &#8220;Programming FMS2&#8243;. eyejot, userplane and others have been doing this for some time, in various incarnations. Flash is, by nature, an embedded application, so no news there.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, tho, the real question is not &#8220;can this be done by anyone&#8221;, it&#8217;s really &#8220;who can afford to do this&#8221;. To truly scale this to a profitable margin, they&#8217;ll need the big bucks &#8212; for bandwidth, cpu and marketing. It&#8217;ll be interesting to see where 4m gets them.</p>
<p>I expect we&#8217;ll see more web apps like this over the next 6 months.</p>
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		<title>By: ashwin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676878</link>
		<dc:creator>ashwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the www.tokbox.com and their team .......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the <a href="http://www.tokbox.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tokbox.com</a> and their team &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Flope</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676868</link>
		<dc:creator>Flope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PSP uses flash 6...
is there any video chat using flash 6 or lower?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PSP uses flash 6&#8230;<br />
is there any video chat using flash 6 or lower?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Druff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676863</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Druff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tokbox is kewl cuz of the way they present the service.  But doing live one-on-one video using flash (red5 or fms) can be accomplished in a couple days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tokbox is kewl cuz of the way they present the service.  But doing live one-on-one video using flash (red5 or fms) can be accomplished in a couple days.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676817</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@44

Are you suggesting that Sequoia did not do their due diligence? The mouse trap is the ease of use not the advertising model.

hey techies - Can I use Adobe Flex and build the same thing? Well, maybe not me, but a qualified engineer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@44</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that Sequoia did not do their due diligence? The mouse trap is the ease of use not the advertising model.</p>
<p>hey techies - Can I use Adobe Flex and build the same thing? Well, maybe not me, but a qualified engineer!</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676789</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This functionality has been in Macromedia breeze (now Adobe Connect) for more than 2 years. Nothing revolutionary at all... 

But if they can offer a good level of service to corporate users, that might be an alternative to over-expensive video/web-conferencing services out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This functionality has been in Macromedia breeze (now Adobe Connect) for more than 2 years. Nothing revolutionary at all&#8230; </p>
<p>But if they can offer a good level of service to corporate users, that might be an alternative to over-expensive video/web-conferencing services out there.</p>
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		<title>By: naysayer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676756</link>
		<dc:creator>naysayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I'll ask on behalf of all techcrunch readers....does tokbox girl have a boyfriend? :) 

I'm taken---but I'm sure inquiring techcrunch minds would like to know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I&#8217;ll ask on behalf of all techcrunch readers&#8230;.does tokbox girl have a boyfriend? <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m taken&#8212;but I&#8217;m sure inquiring techcrunch minds would like to know!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@41

oh ya, I forgot to second that. The lady on the home page is very cute. Maybe I'll run into in the Marina area:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@41</p>
<p>oh ya, I forgot to second that. The lady on the home page is very cute. Maybe I&#8217;ll run into in the Marina area:)</p>
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		<title>By: naysayer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676709</link>
		<dc:creator>naysayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like they're really pushing the "cute girl" as the spokesperson. I hope she's getting a big bonus or at least a good agent out of the deal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like they&#8217;re really pushing the &#8220;cute girl&#8221; as the spokesperson. I hope she&#8217;s getting a big bonus or at least a good agent out of the deal!</p>
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		<title>By: Rodger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mebeam.com seems great for a public video conference free solution. It is not in the same level as tokbox. It is like apples and oranges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mebeam.com seems great for a public video conference free solution. It is not in the same level as tokbox. It is like apples and oranges.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676547</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are missing the point here. Even if the name sucks, it is that which will stick in your mind first then the killer app next. People could not care much about the name who wo brought the service. What they want is the service an what it can do for them. As longs as it takes off on Facebook, they would have their home run. 

It is user friendly, easy to install, easy to syndicate, and not much paper work of clicks to get what you want. You cannot ask for more than that.

I must confess though I was a bit taken back by the name, but it has a Asian connotation to it and a non English feel. That may help the brand outside of the States in areas like Japan and S. Korea if it can break into those markets.

I could be wrong and you could all very well be right on the name issue. But as I said by the time you install it there is no logo anywhere to be seen, just your call and chat windows and that is all we really want on a social network anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are missing the point here. Even if the name sucks, it is that which will stick in your mind first then the killer app next. People could not care much about the name who wo brought the service. What they want is the service an what it can do for them. As longs as it takes off on Facebook, they would have their home run. </p>
<p>It is user friendly, easy to install, easy to syndicate, and not much paper work of clicks to get what you want. You cannot ask for more than that.</p>
<p>I must confess though I was a bit taken back by the name, but it has a Asian connotation to it and a non English feel. That may help the brand outside of the States in areas like Japan and S. Korea if it can break into those markets.</p>
<p>I could be wrong and you could all very well be right on the name issue. But as I said by the time you install it there is no logo anywhere to be seen, just your call and chat windows and that is all we really want on a social network anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: david lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator>david lynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mebeam.com is even simpler, and lets you stream multiple flash instances, enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mebeam.com is even simpler, and lets you stream multiple flash instances, enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@7 Michael said....."i don’t think the company name necessarily ’stinks’". 

------Well, I completely disagree. But, that is my opinion. And after learning that they wish to make this a viral marketing model I disagree with you even more.

@7 Michael said....." It is not generic like iVideoCalls or whatever, such (internet) brands are generally weak. It needs to be distinct, like Google (not search.com). 

-----It is not fair to the company to compare it to a "Google" type. A generic/type in domain name would be a homerun for this company. And to say that such brands are generally weak is very off the mark. Just look at what Business.com recently sold for ($440M). Not bad for a company with a "bunch" of links, eh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@7 Michael said&#8230;..&#8221;i don’t think the company name necessarily ’stinks’&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;Well, I completely disagree. But, that is my opinion. And after learning that they wish to make this a viral marketing model I disagree with you even more.</p>
<p>@7 Michael said&#8230;..&#8221; It is not generic like iVideoCalls or whatever, such (internet) brands are generally weak. It needs to be distinct, like Google (not search.com). </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;It is not fair to the company to compare it to a &#8220;Google&#8221; type. A generic/type in domain name would be a homerun for this company. And to say that such brands are generally weak is very off the mark. Just look at what Business.com recently sold for ($440M). Not bad for a company with a &#8220;bunch&#8221; of links, eh.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676535</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the strength of the app based around Facebook, MySpace type social networks. However if I went to lets say the main URL the window session is not as large as what you see on the home page. 

I think the size of the window is perfect for social networks, if the user wanted a more personal feel and left the social site and wanted a window with just their friends to video chat ,how will the size of the window scale based on the number of users all on at the same time?

I could see two large windows for two users and the gradually scale to fit on a scrolling page. When will the user have the ability to scale the window size outside of a social network setup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the strength of the app based around Facebook, MySpace type social networks. However if I went to lets say the main URL the window session is not as large as what you see on the home page. </p>
<p>I think the size of the window is perfect for social networks, if the user wanted a more personal feel and left the social site and wanted a window with just their friends to video chat ,how will the size of the window scale based on the number of users all on at the same time?</p>
<p>I could see two large windows for two users and the gradually scale to fit on a scrolling page. When will the user have the ability to scale the window size outside of a social network setup?</p>
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		<title>By: nemrut</title>
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		<dc:creator>nemrut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...just signed on. easy as 1-2-3.  this is going to be very popular.  i suggest folks use a disposable/non-critical email address to try it out first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;just signed on. easy as 1-2-3.  this is going to be very popular.  i suggest folks use a disposable/non-critical email address to try it out first.</p>
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		<title>By: Faramarz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faramarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up Keith. I'll stay clear fro another few days untill all is resolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up Keith. I&#8217;ll stay clear fro another few days untill all is resolved.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Teare</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676502</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Teare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so i tired this. It asked me to give it access to my Linkedin or GMail account. I did :-(.

I have now had 200 emails to myself (I'm in my own address book) and at least 50 friends have emailed me saying they have been spammed also.

It is now 10.35 (90 minutes after It started and I am still getting 10 emails a minute from them.

Their code is NOT ready for prime time.

Also, it never asked my permission to send emails. it simply asked me to make my address book available within the app.

Keith Teare
ceo/co-founder/edgeio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so i tired this. It asked me to give it access to my Linkedin or GMail account. I did :-(.</p>
<p>I have now had 200 emails to myself (I&#8217;m in my own address book) and at least 50 friends have emailed me saying they have been spammed also.</p>
<p>It is now 10.35 (90 minutes after It started and I am still getting 10 emails a minute from them.</p>
<p>Their code is NOT ready for prime time.</p>
<p>Also, it never asked my permission to send emails. it simply asked me to make my address book available within the app.</p>
<p>Keith Teare<br />
ceo/co-founder/edgeio</p>
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		<title>By: nemrut</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676501</link>
		<dc:creator>nemrut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...like the iPod for web video. This could be the next killer 'non-app.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;like the iPod for web video. This could be the next killer &#8216;non-app.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: CD</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/14/tokbox-gets-some-nytimes-love/#comment-1676490</link>
		<dc:creator>CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone was asking about barriers to entry for this type of service. All of the base-technology has been in Flash for some time. It's pretty easy to wrap applications around that. There have been video chat offerings for several years now, however, Flash-based is the only way to do this without client-side software install (besides Flash player of course).

However, that said, it's very, very tough to scale up these types of offerings since the Flash streaming from end-users need to go through a centralized point based on the Flash Media Server. You really need a powerful hosting solution to pull it off. Also, it's very expensive because you have to pay for up *and* downstreams (YouTube is just downstream) bandwidth.

Maybe at some poing Flash will allow peer-to-peer video streaming. That'd be the only real way to scale such products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone was asking about barriers to entry for this type of service. All of the base-technology has been in Flash for some time. It&#8217;s pretty easy to wrap applications around that. There have been video chat offerings for several years now, however, Flash-based is the only way to do this without client-side software install (besides Flash player of course).</p>
<p>However, that said, it&#8217;s very, very tough to scale up these types of offerings since the Flash streaming from end-users need to go through a centralized point based on the Flash Media Server. You really need a powerful hosting solution to pull it off. Also, it&#8217;s very expensive because you have to pay for up *and* downstreams (YouTube is just downstream) bandwidth.</p>
<p>Maybe at some poing Flash will allow peer-to-peer video streaming. That&#8217;d be the only real way to scale such products.</p>
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