I have no idea where Kharif got this idea that Facebook apps can only be hosted on Facebook servers but shame on you for not knowing better!

………………but putting that aside I think the attitude is interesting ….USA is the “greatest” country – says who? – ask a poor person in the USA – a person with chronic ill health – a civilian in the Middle East.

Orkut and Hi5 and others are going to grow because most of the world does not speak English and does not particularly like the USA (I do but then I am a a white affluent male – a minority group!)

Cheers Simon
http://www.anycircle.com or qwertytrewq.com

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# Mark Zuckerberg

October 9th, 2007 at 7:46 am

Don is right. Google may be the king of search but it will never be the social engine of the Internet. I firmly believe that this is where Facebook will score. Orkut is popular in POOR countries like the third world countries of South Asia. However in the Greatest country in the world and i8n the sophisticated developed white world Facebook is ahead.
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And Rajiv Dingra, thats cheap self promotion. If you atleast said “I have developed..”, would have been slightly better.

http://fakestev...er.blogspot.com

“If the plan succeeds, users might begin to see applications combining Orkut with Google Maps that would show where friends are located.”

Google already built this feature within Orkut a long time ago.

http://www.insi...ew-feature.html

And people wonder why I prefer bloggers?

Thanks for giving us more info about this. First off you said:

“And the article is also confirming that Google is thinking beyond their own properties, too. “For example, an Orkut widget for Facebook might enable Facebook users to see whether their Orkut friends are online through their Facebook pages.” ”

There already is an Orkut widget for Facebook, although (currently) it only shows you information on when you received scrapbooks from your friends. Think of it like Social Stream, except Facebook style.

I think I have an idea on how Google is going to challenge Facebook in the states (as it is growing by leaps and bounds in Asia, South America and the Middle East) although I’ll post it over on my blog as I do not know if comment entries here have text limits to them.

~Darnell

http://vidsonly.blogspot.com

Who uses both of them knows what I’m talking about

Can you imagine in a couple years when Facebook has 200 million users worldwide, with half of them logging in every day, and a 25 year old will be CEO of this company? I can’t think of a parallel in world history where someone as young as me had this much influence. Oh wait. Alexander the Great. I want Facebook to be the social operating system of the web. That is something Google isn’t and is never going to be. At this point, nobody is closer to that vision than Facebook. Facebook will be the next Google trust me. In San Francisco my aim of having the developers conference was to unleash a tidal wave of masterful PR spin on what Facebook is–the future–and on what Facebook is not – MySpace. It is a hundred times better than that. So shove it Murdoch! We comfortably passed eBay in traffic and we’re working on passing Google, too in a few months time.

What is Orkut anyway? Actually come to think of it Facebook IS already another Google, in fact, seeking to control, for-its own greedy profit motives, all the world’s personal information.

I think this is where the Clearsprings, Springwidgets, yourminis etc are going. Mutating from widget platforms to social network distribution platforms.

Heh, there’s a good thought. Must go blog it.

I love that the fact that “developers can host on their own sites” is not only a facet of this piece, but an important factor, despite the fact that the author is totally wrong. App developers can host apps off of Facebook.

It’s crazy to me that MSM criticizes bloggers when, frequently, the central point of a piece is totally off the mark.

you are correct it’s not right. Facebook apps are for the most part hosted on your OWN servers facebook does very little of the hosting for you outside of serving up its own data into and from your app.

…this doesn’t sound right. I thought Facebook apps are all externally hosted and not hosed at/by Facebook. Are you saying that when I access an app (say Zoho) through Facebook, the app is hosted on Facebook servers. I don’t believe this is the case.

Something along those lines…
http://www.orkut.com/map.aspx

http://www.clearspring.com
and
http://dev.netvibes.com/
and
a couple others I don’t directly remember off the top of my head.

Clear spring is the clear leader in this category not only do u get clear distribution and api aggregation abilities u get really nice metrics to see where your app is going and how its being used.

gmail, greader, gtalk, etc could be considered social sites. but they are unable to foster a community because google’s culture is so different from culture outside google.

“For example, an Orkut widget for Facebook might enable Facebook users to see whether their Orkut friends are online through their Facebook pages.”

So, soon we will have the clash of social network sites, trying to eat on each other’s turf…

Will be interesting to watch how they will respond — will they ban competing apps from other social network sites or not?