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		<title>By: Nicolas Balthazar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gphone : le futur mobile de Google</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1781189</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas Balthazar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gphone : le futur mobile de Google</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Breaking: Google Announces Android and Open Handset Alliance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaking: Google Announces Android and Open Handset Alliance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] started trickling out last week that Google is ready to announce its Gphone, or rather Gphones. It is more a reference design, than a single phone. Android-based phones will start to come out on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Post.  If you hate ads on TV, just wait!  Google is out to create the most sophisticated ad engine the world has ever seen.  

I don't like it because it undermines my privacy and pushes tons of ads to me that I don't want to see. 

Lots of readers here endorse it because it will open up more channels to revenue for them, but ask consumers without an income opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Post.  If you hate ads on TV, just wait!  Google is out to create the most sophisticated ad engine the world has ever seen.  </p>
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<p>Lots of readers here endorse it because it will open up more channels to revenue for them, but ask consumers without an income opportunity.</p>
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		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1714970</link>
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		<title>By: confusionx</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665983</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm... although this is a very cool, i just have one aversion. isnt it making phone tapping legal? i mean that's how they'll track our phone calls, right? so they can generate ads. even texting i think, they will track all the data/ "keywords" that we type. hmmm... they're going to be the Big Brother in the mobile industry. wow! and the thing going for them too is that everybody loves google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230; although this is a very cool, i just have one aversion. isnt it making phone tapping legal? i mean that&#8217;s how they&#8217;ll track our phone calls, right? so they can generate ads. even texting i think, they will track all the data/ &#8220;keywords&#8221; that we type. hmmm&#8230; they&#8217;re going to be the Big Brother in the mobile industry. wow! and the thing going for them too is that everybody loves google.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Linhares</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665672</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skype has really blown it big time.  Why haven't they worked with handset makers and provided a wifi VOIP cell with mp3/photos/video/web?  I don't get it.

Why does "long-distance" still exist this day and age?  Do we pay more for "long distance email"?  

I hope google brings in VOIP.  BTW, why didn't Apple bundle ichat? Why doesn't the "Zune, the social" have messenger?

Can someone explain this?  Why is there still this huge open space for a good easy VOIP/cell?  The carriers will scream out and fight it like the RIAA, but who cares?

Meanwhile, skype, who's lost quite a chunk of market value, is sitting still on the sidelines, waiting for someone to grab its market share.  That someone will be the one providing a good wifi/cell to market.</description>
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<p>Why does &#8220;long-distance&#8221; still exist this day and age?  Do we pay more for &#8220;long distance email&#8221;?  </p>
<p>I hope google brings in VOIP.  BTW, why didn&#8217;t Apple bundle ichat? Why doesn&#8217;t the &#8220;Zune, the social&#8221; have messenger?</p>
<p>Can someone explain this?  Why is there still this huge open space for a good easy VOIP/cell?  The carriers will scream out and fight it like the RIAA, but who cares?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, skype, who&#8217;s lost quite a chunk of market value, is sitting still on the sidelines, waiting for someone to grab its market share.  That someone will be the one providing a good wifi/cell to market.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajuthan.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665668</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajuthan.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Erick Schonfeld</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665636</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick Schonfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the fact-check #29 and #31.  Fixed in the post.

On the carrier issue, yes that is the big barrier.  But they need people to use more data, and if Google can convince them that the Gphone will be a boon for their data services, they may play along.

#42, the carriers may control the pipe, but they don't control the OS.  That is what this is about. If Google can sneak an open OS past the carriers, all the apps come along with it (more or less).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the fact-check #29 and #31.  Fixed in the post.</p>
<p>On the carrier issue, yes that is the big barrier.  But they need people to use more data, and if Google can convince them that the Gphone will be a boon for their data services, they may play along.</p>
<p>#42, the carriers may control the pipe, but they don&#8217;t control the OS.  That is what this is about. If Google can sneak an open OS past the carriers, all the apps come along with it (more or less).</p>
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		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665625</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brad Meikle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665560</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Meikle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a objective and candid examination of the progress in mobile applications over the last 10 years one will conclude it to have been a disaster.  The carriers want to control the whole process and get a percentage of everything but their core competency centers very far from application development.  Only third party MVNOS (which is what RIM really is) have been able to make progress because they have enough vertical integration  (software, hardware and network access[through their NOC]). Without such integration the infighting is enough to ensure that major leaps wont happen. Qualcomm has had the most success with application development because of their vertical integration as well. 

Based on what I have read about the GPhone, its much more significant than the iPhone as it would drive open platform development. All of the pieces are there to make this happen.  The iPhone is very promising with great potential, but basically an MVNO like RIM.  

Microsoft's mobile software has come along way but it still bears the annoying characteristic of their applications - Client heavy. The future is client light. 

Now is the time for all of this to happen. The EVDO networks work great, and Cingular is rolling out HSPA in 2h07.  If Google is able to succeed with the G-phone it would certainly be a great opportunity for other developers as they'd finally have a more fertile platform for development. 

I hope that Google finds a way to drive this forward as its no easy feat.  One interesting question is, with the purchase of Navteq by Nokia and Teleatlas by TOMTOM, who will be the map vendor?  Can Google build this on their own? Is it possible that the future of mapping interfaces will be materially different than those we see today?   
Brad meikle - Brad@ampacresearch.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a objective and candid examination of the progress in mobile applications over the last 10 years one will conclude it to have been a disaster.  The carriers want to control the whole process and get a percentage of everything but their core competency centers very far from application development.  Only third party MVNOS (which is what RIM really is) have been able to make progress because they have enough vertical integration  (software, hardware and network access[through their NOC]). Without such integration the infighting is enough to ensure that major leaps wont happen. Qualcomm has had the most success with application development because of their vertical integration as well. </p>
<p>Based on what I have read about the GPhone, its much more significant than the iPhone as it would drive open platform development. All of the pieces are there to make this happen.  The iPhone is very promising with great potential, but basically an MVNO like RIM.  </p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s mobile software has come along way but it still bears the annoying characteristic of their applications - Client heavy. The future is client light. </p>
<p>Now is the time for all of this to happen. The EVDO networks work great, and Cingular is rolling out HSPA in 2h07.  If Google is able to succeed with the G-phone it would certainly be a great opportunity for other developers as they&#8217;d finally have a more fertile platform for development. </p>
<p>I hope that Google finds a way to drive this forward as its no easy feat.  One interesting question is, with the purchase of Navteq by Nokia and Teleatlas by TOMTOM, who will be the map vendor?  Can Google build this on their own? Is it possible that the future of mapping interfaces will be materially different than those we see today?<br />
Brad meikle - <a href="mailto:Brad@ampacresearch.com">Brad@ampacresearch.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Scrofano</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665511</link>
		<dc:creator>John Scrofano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick, I don’t think there is any questions that “Google can really distinguish its mobile effort from the iPhone by not locking it down to a set of pre-approved applications. The more applications (and the more types of Gphones to put them on) the better.” They maintain the platform, allow developers to mash away at a million cool things.  Monetize with AdSense – it is a beautiful world.

However, you quickly ran through the carrier issue.  Don’t you think this is the real bottleneck?  If carriers control the OS and the pipe, Google can be as open as they want but the carrier can still call the shots on what gets onto that phone.  How does the Google platform overcome this barrier?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick, I don’t think there is any questions that “Google can really distinguish its mobile effort from the iPhone by not locking it down to a set of pre-approved applications. The more applications (and the more types of Gphones to put them on) the better.” They maintain the platform, allow developers to mash away at a million cool things.  Monetize with AdSense – it is a beautiful world.</p>
<p>However, you quickly ran through the carrier issue.  Don’t you think this is the real bottleneck?  If carriers control the OS and the pipe, Google can be as open as they want but the carrier can still call the shots on what gets onto that phone.  How does the Google platform overcome this barrier?</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Cunha</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665437</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Cunha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that will boost competition and for the consumer less money, with several services. Of course Google will make the move its only is gathering services covering mobile market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that will boost competition and for the consumer less money, with several services. Of course Google will make the move its only is gathering services covering mobile market.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/08/the-more-gphones-the-better/#comment-1665390</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they simply added advertisements to a phone, that wouldn't be a platform at all. It could be copied by the likes of Verizon and it wouldn't offer any advantages to consumers, advertisers or application developers. Google would lose credibility and be beaten by Nokia, Microsoft, and even Yahoo on the basis of service quality via mobile phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they simply added advertisements to a phone, that wouldn&#8217;t be a platform at all. It could be copied by the likes of Verizon and it wouldn&#8217;t offer any advantages to consumers, advertisers or application developers. Google would lose credibility and be beaten by Nokia, Microsoft, and even Yahoo on the basis of service quality via mobile phone.</p>
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