October 5, 2007

Domain Industry Intrigue; Oversee.net Gets Hosed

Michael Arrington

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The domain name industry is all abuzz today (or will be soon) with the launch of a new service called NameJet. The service will compete in the $75 million/year “deleting domain name” business - when someone doesn’t renew a domain name it goes through a lengthy expiration process and is eventually spit back out to the market. 25,000 domains delete daily on average, and a lot of those (about 8%, to be exact) are immediately re-registered by domain speculators.

A number of companies compete to get those domains and then resell them via auctions. The most successful was a Portland startup called SnapNames, which won largely because they locked up agreements with the big registrars to get exclusive access to deleting domains. SnapNames and its competitors would then auction off deleting domains, generating an average of $100 per domain (with some going for $100k or more).

SnapNames was recently acquired by Oversee.net for $35 million, based on yearly revenues of around $40 million and profits of $3 million or so. About half of that revenue, and all of the profit, came from a single exclusive Snapnames’ registrar partner - NSI. A small portion of the purchase price was held back in escrow based on the company meeting revenue projections of $70 million/year.

That acquisition looks a little dumb right now, and those revenue projections of $70 million/year aren’t going to happen. NSI, exercising a change in control termination clause, notified Snapnames/Oversee today that they were terminating their agreement and simultaneously launched Namejet with a rival registrar eNom (eNom is owned by Demand Media).

Congratulations to the SnapNames shareholders, who sold at exactly the right time and left Oversee.net holding a now unprofitable business.

Disclosure: I once ran a company in this space called Pool.com, and later briefly consulted for SnapNames.

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  1. phenom

    must appreciate the way ppl keep finding sources to generate income, but I believe in generating wealth over income

  2. Dmitri

    I don’t know a single person who likes these companies and doesn’t work there or gain any benefit (money) from them…
    Having these companies make money simply because people want a domain that fits their business is kinda sad.

  3. Larry Chiang

    I almost wanna register 1000 versions of theDatingReport.com thru a registrar that I negotiate an agreement to resell.

    People love to get rich thru gimmicks

    They love going to conferences where these gimmicks are shared. Tell people what you really did to make money over time and its like finding people reading during “reading week”- it just doesn’t happen.

    I wonder how guilty of gimmick vs good I am…

  4. Hornswaggled

    People may be opposed to this but you cannot deny the value of these services.

    I could go to snapnames and find a domain that is expiring that has a good name, good age, and with thousands of backlinks all for 100 bucks. Most of the domains get purchased end up being parked and its amazing to see the amount of money parked domains generate. Many others turn into SEO type link farms and adsense sites. One of the main benefits od Snapnames partnership with NSI was that the domains age did not reset when it expired. This meant that one could obtain a domain that was registered back in 97 and therefore carrying some decent SEO value.

    I was in an auction for the domain rumble.com and it ended up going for 31k and is just parked. Crazy.

  5. Steen

    “NSI, exercising a change in control termination clause, notified Snapnames/Oversee today that they were terminating their agreement”

    Interesting. Is there a press release on this or one of your inside sources?

  6. WEB

    What sometimes happens to those domain names with pageranks 4, 5 or even 6 is that they will sometimes be developed into blogs or directories or one page word links.

    Usually those owners will sell links to make instant money from Webmasters attracted by the pageranks

    But they can be a jump start for a Web business seeking to get an online presence without starting their promotion from the very beginning. But it is best that the new Website be topically related to the old one for the backlinks to be effective since backlink anchor text is what determines rankings nowadays on search engines

  7. Steve Ballmer

    Who woulda’ thunk?

  8. Alex

    AGAIN. In ten, twenty, thirty years these domains will be worth month than they are today. Ask Mike Arrington how much the url Pool.com is worth?

  9. Ric Johnson

    Mike,

    YOU ran Pool? I have been reading your blog all this time and never knew you were in the domain business. I have used all of these services for years. I loved pool, but they screwed me a couple of times, and have not used their services since. The biggest problem: monopoly of .Com domains.
    In fact that is why I started OpenDomain: to do something GOOD with domains. I buy domains and then let people use them for FREE. Last year I donated Drupal.Com to Dries, and recently EcmasScript.Org to Eich. BUT… I have to admit my idea does not work in that i costs WAY too much with little return. Still pretty kewl that a guy like me can help some of the biggest sites on the net.

  10. Sonome

    Hi Michael,

    Is it possible that you create a separate feed for each of the writers of TechCrunch?

    Sonome

  11. sputnick

    Very informative article. Nobody knows the domain squatting business like Mike A.

  12. Bill

    My, how the cookie crumbles!

    Some of the things that I’ve seen DomainSponsor do in the past made me view them more on the unethical side of the parking spectrum. It’s interesting to see this take place. I guess they get a taste of what it’s like when someone does something bad to you.

  13. Mike

    This article was very interesting!

  14. bg

    i love it , i hate oversee.net. They used one of my domains and put ads on them without my knowledge and seeing a cent.

    Karma. Take that you &&*U(&.

  15. mathew johnson

    Yo, personally, I give Mike Arrington a lot of credit for having a background in domaining. All that back-room Internet marketing stuff is hard. The people that build big domain/affiliate/ad businesses in their basements with zero capital are super smart, and most startup people couldn’t hack it at all.

  16. Adrian

    No typo or domain squatter has made a dime from me.

  17. Alex

    #16

    Really. Maybe these smart squatters will just spam your url: http://blog.wajsbrem.com/

    :)

  18. Adrian

    They may have cost me a dime or two when compared to some reality where the domains I have wanted were available or when I was spared the time moderating the comments from the likes of Alex.

  19. Robin Wauters

    Oversee.net also just pulled the plug out of the company SwapNames (with a ‘w’ instead of an ‘n’) by suing them over trademark infringement. What were they so afraid of?

  20. AV

    Obviously none of you know how much DomainSponsor makes per *DAY* from their parking business. Hint: take your house price and maybe triple it.

  21. kyle

    Interesting post… I wouldn’t label oversee.net as getting hosed.They are in a sweet spot and executing right. Funny how they have grown to a 150m rev company from their own pockets. Yet, demand needs to rais 300m+ to open eyeballs. Snapnames is just a start to what oversee has to come. They have a brilliant management team, and will be the leader in this market

  22. itechcrunch.cn

    i went to namejet,i found it a domain exchange site.i found 0012530.com,020china.com.i think it is used for china.but i think nobody would buy it.

  23. David Mackey

    Ouch, that’s really gonna hurt.

  24. Bill T.

    agreed with kyle. “hosed” seems to be a bit overstated….ive heard that oversee.net is on pace to do 250mm this year. snapnames 35mm may hurt a bit, but this company still seems like the best kept secret out there i’ve heard of….

  25. chrisco

    @ #1: Take a stream of income, grow it at a 25%+ CAGR and sell at a nice multiple to the income statement… that is a definition of wealth creation.

  26. Dave

    I don’t take this whole purported drama at face value at all. Knowing some of the guys at Snap/Oversee, to think they didn’t see this as a potential risk and not have two or three contingency plans for growth (see Snap Live Auctions news release) is a little bit … well .. just being a bit drama queen don’t you think? I’d like to see someone else who can build an immensely profitable $250m business with $0 outside funding tell me they’ve never had a minor setback.

  27. successclick

    Michael who?

  28. anything sounds powerful

    hi can you sugget few names which are suitable for manufacturing industry

    thanks&regards

    ravi