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	<title>Comments on: Court Victory For Music Labels Won&#8217;t Save Their Industry</title>
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		<title>By: ryan hypothetisch &#187; Zitate vs. Majors (und ein unglaublich inspirierender Lachanfall)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan hypothetisch &#187; Zitate vs. Majors (und ein unglaublich inspirierender Lachanfall)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcrunch zum Urteil, das eine Frau fÃ¼r 24 Urheberrechtsverletzungen (illegal heruntergeladene Songs) zur Zahlung von insgesamt 222.000 Dollar (9.250 pro Song) an den amerikanischen Plattenindustrie-Verband verpflichtet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techcrunch zum Urteil, das eine Frau fÃ¼r 24 Urheberrechtsverletzungen (illegal heruntergeladene Songs) zur Zahlung von insgesamt 222.000 Dollar (9.250 pro Song) an den amerikanischen Plattenindustrie-Verband verpflichtet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NiggyTardust Alternative Release Tonight &#187; the dotmatrix project</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1715754</link>
		<dc:creator>NiggyTardust Alternative Release Tonight &#187; the dotmatrix project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The RIAA is doing their best to fight that losing battle. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Miss Fabulous</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1667089</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Fabulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys...........
im doin a debate soon on why downloading music off the internet is not stealing. I&#039;m not so sure what to do.    Help?!?!?

Sharpay Adamson</description>
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im doin a debate soon on why downloading music off the internet is not stealing. I&#8217;m not so sure what to do.    Help?!?!?</p>
<p>Sharpay Adamson</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Moolten</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1662231</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Moolten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For perspective, I should state that I&#039;m a songwriter disturbed that others might want to deprive me of the right to decide for myself whether to charge for my work or give it away. My own view of the latest court judgment is that the fine, if anything, may be too low (but with a qualification I&#039;ll mention later). These fines are intended for (a) restitution; (b) punishment; and (c) deterrence of others. Deterrence requires that the &quot;cost&quot; of stealing (my word for it) should exceed the cost of paying for the music. However, the cost of stealing is calculated by multiplying the size of the fine by the probability of being caught. Realistically, that probability is less than one in ten thousand, and with this in mind, a fine of even half a million might be reasonable. Even so, my guess is that once the RIAA gets as much mileage as it can from the deterrence value of the news story, it will privately arrange with Jammie Thomas to mitigate her penalty to levels she can live with.  At least, I would hope so.

Finally, my views on this don&#039;t contradict those of others who believe that the music business needs a new business model to adapt to changing times.  In all likelihood, new models in combination with penalties for piracy will be more effective than either approach alone.

Fred Moolten</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For perspective, I should state that I&#8217;m a songwriter disturbed that others might want to deprive me of the right to decide for myself whether to charge for my work or give it away. My own view of the latest court judgment is that the fine, if anything, may be too low (but with a qualification I&#8217;ll mention later). These fines are intended for (a) restitution; (b) punishment; and (c) deterrence of others. Deterrence requires that the &#8220;cost&#8221; of stealing (my word for it) should exceed the cost of paying for the music. However, the cost of stealing is calculated by multiplying the size of the fine by the probability of being caught. Realistically, that probability is less than one in ten thousand, and with this in mind, a fine of even half a million might be reasonable. Even so, my guess is that once the RIAA gets as much mileage as it can from the deterrence value of the news story, it will privately arrange with Jammie Thomas to mitigate her penalty to levels she can live with.  At least, I would hope so.</p>
<p>Finally, my views on this don&#8217;t contradict those of others who believe that the music business needs a new business model to adapt to changing times.  In all likelihood, new models in combination with penalties for piracy will be more effective than either approach alone.</p>
<p>Fred Moolten</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Lejbak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Lejbak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best thing the recording industry could do to stop their revenues from falling is to produce better music.  Why would anyone want to pay to hear Paris Hilton? The glory days of the industry had better music; the revenue freefall has nothing to do with downloading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best thing the recording industry could do to stop their revenues from falling is to produce better music.  Why would anyone want to pay to hear Paris Hilton? The glory days of the industry had better music; the revenue freefall has nothing to do with downloading.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pageman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1661978</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pageman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this thread reminded me of Paul Bucheit&#039;s thoughts on his blog:

&quot;So what&#039;s my point? Owning a &quot;right&quot;, which is a form of &quot;Imaginary Property&quot;, is not the same as owning real property. If someone violates your exclusive rights, they may be breaking the law, but they are not stealing. To claim otherwise is silly and dishonest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this thread reminded me of Paul Bucheit&#8217;s thoughts on his blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;So what&#8217;s my point? Owning a &#8220;right&#8221;, which is a form of &#8220;Imaginary Property&#8221;, is not the same as owning real property. If someone violates your exclusive rights, they may be breaking the law, but they are not stealing. To claim otherwise is silly and dishonest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: alpha24seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>alpha24seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXCELLENT! I&#039;m glad they won! She was stealing and she got busted. Why don&#039;t you all put together a fund and help her pay the fine? Right... just as I expected.

It seems that many posters here also believe that the grocery store is where food comes from. They also believe that music comes from a USB port. Chalk it up to our excellent education system... 

Get a life. Grow up. Recognize the tremendous amount of hard work and massive amounts of money it takes to make and keep an artist popular.

I&#039;m NO fan of the music industry and its ways, but to just say &quot;I&#039;ll just steal music because the music industry is corrupt and rock stars already have too much money&quot; is complete idiocy.

And one more thing. All this &quot;digital distribution&quot; crap is overrated and nonsense. Can someone please provide the name of one -- just one -- MTV, Grammy artist that started with Garageband and became famous? Just one is all I ask. They&#039;ve been promising that &quot;equalized&quot; crap since the very first Music website came on the scene and the only thing that has happened is that most of those &quot;industry equalizing&quot; sites are road kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT! I&#8217;m glad they won! She was stealing and she got busted. Why don&#8217;t you all put together a fund and help her pay the fine? Right&#8230; just as I expected.</p>
<p>It seems that many posters here also believe that the grocery store is where food comes from. They also believe that music comes from a USB port. Chalk it up to our excellent education system&#8230; </p>
<p>Get a life. Grow up. Recognize the tremendous amount of hard work and massive amounts of money it takes to make and keep an artist popular.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m NO fan of the music industry and its ways, but to just say &#8220;I&#8217;ll just steal music because the music industry is corrupt and rock stars already have too much money&#8221; is complete idiocy.</p>
<p>And one more thing. All this &#8220;digital distribution&#8221; crap is overrated and nonsense. Can someone please provide the name of one &#8212; just one &#8212; MTV, Grammy artist that started with Garageband and became famous? Just one is all I ask. They&#8217;ve been promising that &#8220;equalized&#8221; crap since the very first Music website came on the scene and the only thing that has happened is that most of those &#8220;industry equalizing&#8221; sites are road kill.</p>
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		<title>By: Prima condanna per download &#34;illegale&#34; di musica - Page 2 - Videogiochi Forum su Multiplayer.it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prima condanna per download &#34;illegale&#34; di musica - Page 2 - Videogiochi Forum su Multiplayer.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] il muro dell&#8217;assurdità totale. La crociata della RIAA diventa ogni giorno più cieca.  Consiglio: post di TechCrunch sulla [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Togi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Togi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Record Companies have already lost the war even if they won this court battle.

Its just a matter of time before artists go direct to the users.

What are record companies anyway? They are just organizations which help produce, distribute and market music that they think will bring them money.

Musicians are people who do what they want and do it from the heart.

Listeners and fans are people who listen to what they like.

Get it, record companies don&#039;t have a place in the future. Low cost or free digital distribution will take their place. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Record Companies have already lost the war even if they won this court battle.</p>
<p>Its just a matter of time before artists go direct to the users.</p>
<p>What are record companies anyway? They are just organizations which help produce, distribute and market music that they think will bring them money.</p>
<p>Musicians are people who do what they want and do it from the heart.</p>
<p>Listeners and fans are people who listen to what they like.</p>
<p>Get it, record companies don&#8217;t have a place in the future. Low cost or free digital distribution will take their place. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: norski</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1660768</link>
		<dc:creator>norski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My suggestion is for one our tech money folks give her a million dollars to fight this and move her to France. She deserves our support and I don&#039;t have that kind-a bread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My suggestion is for one our tech money folks give her a million dollars to fight this and move her to France. She deserves our support and I don&#8217;t have that kind-a bread.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaymon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaymon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everytime I here about a record company &quot;win&quot; due to a lawsuit I think of this quote:

&quot;that in the heyday of Napster, if record companies had agreed to charge just a nickel a download, they would have been splitting $500,000 a day, 24 hours a day, 52 weeks a year.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://janisian.com/articles-perfsong/Fallout%20-%20rev%2011-23-05.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;

Congrats to the music industry, they have made half a day&#039;s profits of a nickel a song on Napster, I people say their business model is dead...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everytime I here about a record company &#8220;win&#8221; due to a lawsuit I think of this quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;that in the heyday of Napster, if record companies had agreed to charge just a nickel a download, they would have been splitting $500,000 a day, 24 hours a day, 52 weeks a year.&#8221; <a href="http://janisian.com/articles-perfsong/Fallout%20-%20rev%2011-23-05.pdf" rel="nofollow">source</a></p>
<p>Congrats to the music industry, they have made half a day&#8217;s profits of a nickel a song on Napster, I people say their business model is dead&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1660504</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - a perfect example of winning the battle while losing the war...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; a perfect example of winning the battle while losing the war&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1660355</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m just hoping for two things:

1. more touring, less musical BS...i can dream....

2. to stop being wrong.

Thanks for the stats about tours. I guess I was taking a short view of the whole situation. 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m just hoping for two things:</p>
<p>1. more touring, less musical BS&#8230;i can dream&#8230;.</p>
<p>2. to stop being wrong.</p>
<p>Thanks for the stats about tours. I guess I was taking a short view of the whole situation. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: miracle2k</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1660353</link>
		<dc:creator>miracle2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John C. McClore:

http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-does-it-mean-to-own-right-was.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John C. McClore:</p>
<p><a href="http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-does-it-mean-to-own-right-was.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-does-it-mean-to-own-right-was.html'>http://paulbuch...-right-was.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John C. McClore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C. McClore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or you could just buy the music legally?  How is stealing a digital item different from stealing a physical item from Best Buy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or you could just buy the music legally?  How is stealing a digital item different from stealing a physical item from Best Buy?</p>
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		<title>By: Willan Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mr. Colin

Just a quick clarification - a vast majority of Americans do not go to concerts.  Check out this link from Michael Rapino&#039;s speech at the annual Pollstar convention. Rapino is CEO of the largest music promoter (LiveNation).  He states that over 70% of people never go to a concert and most that do, only go to one show a year.  Overall spend on concerts is &quot;miniscule&quot;.  

http://www.pollstaronline.com/cic2006/CIC2006keynote.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr. Colin</p>
<p>Just a quick clarification &#8211; a vast majority of Americans do not go to concerts.  Check out this link from Michael Rapino&#8217;s speech at the annual Pollstar convention. Rapino is CEO of the largest music promoter (LiveNation).  He states that over 70% of people never go to a concert and most that do, only go to one show a year.  Overall spend on concerts is &#8220;miniscule&#8221;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollstaronline.com/cic2006/CIC2006keynote.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.pollstaronline.com/cic2006/CIC2006keynote.htm'>http://www.poll...2006keynote.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adam Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some developer types should find out how the industry is picking out the people they go after and create a program that just floods them with false leads. Make it miserable for them to go after people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some developer types should find out how the industry is picking out the people they go after and create a program that just floods them with false leads. Make it miserable for them to go after people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can effectively cut the music public into three. Those who like Top 40/Pop, those who like &quot;indie&quot; (i.e. not pop) and then those who don&#039;t like music at all.

Most Top 40 listeners, averaging 5-14 year old boys and girls but off course can go up to an infinite age, it&#039;s music for anyone who likes catchy, non-deep music. They want something to dance to in the clubs. They buy the music for the artist as a whole, the package. They couldn&#039;t care less if the song has a message or some deep innate feeling, hence all the pop artists being styled all the time, photoshoots, bla bla. These people want into that image. They also do tend to go to concerts, but just the &quot;arena&quot; concerts for big spectacle shows. These are the consumers who won&#039;t let Top 40 die and they far outweigh the other 2 groups.

The &quot;indie&quot; group are more concerned with their &quot;real&quot; music and listen to the songs for a message and couldn&#039;t care less if the music was cool or not. These listeners would go to the middle of a forest for a campfire performance from their favorite artist.

And the third group just don&#039;t like music... for some reason totally unbeknown to man.

The point I&#039;m trying to get to is that it is impossible for top 40 to fall out because there will always and forever be that need for that 5-14 year age group and there will always need to be something to dance too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can effectively cut the music public into three. Those who like Top 40/Pop, those who like &#8220;indie&#8221; (i.e. not pop) and then those who don&#8217;t like music at all.</p>
<p>Most Top 40 listeners, averaging 5-14 year old boys and girls but off course can go up to an infinite age, it&#8217;s music for anyone who likes catchy, non-deep music. They want something to dance to in the clubs. They buy the music for the artist as a whole, the package. They couldn&#8217;t care less if the song has a message or some deep innate feeling, hence all the pop artists being styled all the time, photoshoots, bla bla. These people want into that image. They also do tend to go to concerts, but just the &#8220;arena&#8221; concerts for big spectacle shows. These are the consumers who won&#8217;t let Top 40 die and they far outweigh the other 2 groups.</p>
<p>The &#8220;indie&#8221; group are more concerned with their &#8220;real&#8221; music and listen to the songs for a message and couldn&#8217;t care less if the music was cool or not. These listeners would go to the middle of a forest for a campfire performance from their favorite artist.</p>
<p>And the third group just don&#8217;t like music&#8230; for some reason totally unbeknown to man.</p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m trying to get to is that it is impossible for top 40 to fall out because there will always and forever be that need for that 5-14 year age group and there will always need to be something to dance too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, we all go onto Bit Torrent and download at least one album &quot;illegally&quot; in protest of this retarded verdict.

Seriously, Ars Technica said that the jurors did not want to talk to the media.  I think it&#039;s that the only word the jurors knew was &quot;Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Guilty&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, we all go onto Bit Torrent and download at least one album &#8220;illegally&#8221; in protest of this retarded verdict.</p>
<p>Seriously, Ars Technica said that the jurors did not want to talk to the media.  I think it&#8217;s that the only word the jurors knew was &#8220;Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Guilty&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jenny, 

&quot;pop&quot; music is driven by a corporate plan that goes like this: hire a songwriter. Hire four white guys / 3 white girls and 1 black girl / 4 black guys. buy a keyboard with a drum machine. teach the &quot;artists&quot; to sing the songs the writer wrote. use pro tools to make them sound good. teach them to dance. buy white pants. teach them to sing and dance at the same time. get great haircuts, apply makeup and teeth whitener. go to J14 and TigerBeat photo shoot. Sign autographs. tour the country and charge $21 a CD. high school girls go wild. The labels make about 93% of every dollar sold. 

This has gone on for years. Why will it stop now? when the CDs stop selling, the boy bands will not be economically viable for the major labels, and maybe real talent will diffuse into the culture. maybe. It&#039;s something I hope for, and that is why I&#039;m in support of &quot;free&quot; CDs. (Though i am one of the losers who still buys CD for the liner notes and also I like being able to hold something I bought). I&#039;m not an economist [similar to george bush] but I know that if bands are losing money on record sales, they are recouping it through tour. If no one wants to see a band, then that means there&#039;s no demand because a) that band sucks, or b) Jenny is right and no one wants to see non-jazz bands play. and bands wouldn&#039;t tour, they&#039;d all lose money and die. And then they can&#039;t buy heroin. Case closed. 

I&#039;m pretty sure it will be option a.



**On another note, everyone goes to concerts. Literally everyone. I think that if you haven&#039;t been to a concert in a year, then a) you live in montana or b) your taste is so eclectic that not one band you like goes on tour. Personally, I love live music and I think millions of people would love to be able to see their favorite bands live if they just came around more often.

sorry for the long post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jenny, </p>
<p>&#8220;pop&#8221; music is driven by a corporate plan that goes like this: hire a songwriter. Hire four white guys / 3 white girls and 1 black girl / 4 black guys. buy a keyboard with a drum machine. teach the &#8220;artists&#8221; to sing the songs the writer wrote. use pro tools to make them sound good. teach them to dance. buy white pants. teach them to sing and dance at the same time. get great haircuts, apply makeup and teeth whitener. go to J14 and TigerBeat photo shoot. Sign autographs. tour the country and charge $21 a CD. high school girls go wild. The labels make about 93% of every dollar sold. </p>
<p>This has gone on for years. Why will it stop now? when the CDs stop selling, the boy bands will not be economically viable for the major labels, and maybe real talent will diffuse into the culture. maybe. It&#8217;s something I hope for, and that is why I&#8217;m in support of &#8220;free&#8221; CDs. (Though i am one of the losers who still buys CD for the liner notes and also I like being able to hold something I bought). I&#8217;m not an economist [similar to george bush] but I know that if bands are losing money on record sales, they are recouping it through tour. If no one wants to see a band, then that means there&#8217;s no demand because a) that band sucks, or b) Jenny is right and no one wants to see non-jazz bands play. and bands wouldn&#8217;t tour, they&#8217;d all lose money and die. And then they can&#8217;t buy heroin. Case closed. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure it will be option a.</p>
<p>**On another note, everyone goes to concerts. Literally everyone. I think that if you haven&#8217;t been to a concert in a year, then a) you live in montana or b) your taste is so eclectic that not one band you like goes on tour. Personally, I love live music and I think millions of people would love to be able to see their favorite bands live if they just came around more often.</p>
<p>sorry for the long post.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Feeds about Music &#187; Archive &#187; Comment on Court Victory For Music Labels Wonâ€™t Save Their &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1660120</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Feeds about Music &#187; Archive &#187; Comment on Court Victory For Music Labels Wonâ€™t Save Their &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can read the rest of this blog post by going to the original source, here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: phenom</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/05/court-victory-for-music-labels-wont-save-their-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-1660091</link>
		<dc:creator>phenom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad for that women, and many might stop listening music after hearing this...shame
http://vidsonly.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for that women, and many might stop listening music after hearing this&#8230;shame<br />
<a href="http://vidsonly.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://vidsonly.blogspot.com'>http://vidsonly.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I feel for that lady, but at the same time, if you&#039;re going to play the game, at least know how not to lose.  Sharing 1700 songs (or the 24) is just asking for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I feel for that lady, but at the same time, if you&#8217;re going to play the game, at least know how not to lose.  Sharing 1700 songs (or the 24) is just asking for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone set up a donation website so she can hire a better appeals lawyer. Seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Walters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just going to stop listening to music all together.</description>
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