Comments on: China Blocking RSS Feeds http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:29:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: which mud has the highest average number of online player ? - Top Mud Sites Forum http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-2449474 which mud has the highest average number of online player ? - Top Mud Sites Forum Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:01:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-2449474 [...] with living in China? A lot of things? Examples: BBC NEWS | Technology | China blocking Google China Blocking RSS Feeds Report: China Blocking Access to [...] [...] with living in China? A lot of things? Examples: BBC NEWS | Technology | China blocking Google China Blocking RSS Feeds Report: China Blocking Access to [...]

]]> By: Tercüme bürosu http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1708906 Tercüme bürosu Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:14:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1708906 The ‘related’ image you use in the post makes me sick . The ‘related’ image you use in the post makes me sick .

]]> By: 中国数字媒体新闻一览 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1708332 中国数字媒体新闻一览 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:00:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1708332 [...] 大部分的中国博客写者事实上并没有这么义愤填膺，而且提供了很多办法来应对。有趣的是，我们不仅看到谣言传播的广度，以及附加在其上的另一些情感，包括在TechCrunch评论中，一浪高过一浪的抗议声，还有要求国际谴责的以及反对中国加入世界贸易自由协定的。在最终谣言澄清之前，就连博客保护协会也很轻率的随声附和，大有将谣言传播之势。 [...] [...] 大部分的中国博客写者事实上并没有这么义愤填膺，而且提供了很多办法来应对。有趣的是，我们不仅看到谣言传播的广度，以及附加在其上的另一些情感，包括在TechCrunch评论中，一浪高过一浪的抗议声，还有要求国际谴责的以及反对中国加入世界贸易自由协定的。在最终谣言澄清之前，就连博客保护协会也很轻率的随声附和，大有将谣言传播之势。 [...]

]]> By: Art http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1688615 Art Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:58:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1688615 <a href="http://drshd.110mb.com." rel="nofollow">drshd</a> drshd

]]> By: Cyberwar: China Declares War On Western Search Sites http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1683159 Cyberwar: China Declares War On Western Search Sites Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:43:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1683159 [...] written previously on the possibility that China may use its firewall as an economic tool as opposed to a censorship [...] [...] written previously on the possibility that China may use its firewall as an economic tool as opposed to a censorship [...]

]]> By: newviewit.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1679561 newviewit.com Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:01:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1679561 I'm a Canadian who does IT/web/marketing in Beijing and use netvibes to get RSS feeds and feedburner is definitely blocked. There are other rss feeds that get through the firewall so please give us options over here! Lately I've been noticing tons of problems outside the normal blocks of technocrati, wikepedia, etc. One of the main problems is that hotmail is ridiculously slow to load, and on top of that someone is trying to put up an unsecured double load copy of my sign in page to try and steal my passwords....thank god for security checks. The fallacy of getting around the firewall by using .cn names is false. The only real way of getting around the firewall is to host in China....but then you're likely to be hosted on a spam server and all your stuff will get blocked anyway by personal/system firewalls(no joke almost every host is a spam farm). From experience the best way around this problem is to host your sites on dedicated servers that hold no bad info about China and the usual taboo topics. Being on shared servers means that someone on the server could put up something that is banned, and China would ban the whole server. I’m a Canadian who does IT/web/marketing in Beijing and use netvibes to get RSS feeds and feedburner is definitely blocked. There are other rss feeds that get through the firewall so please give us options over here!

Lately I’ve been noticing tons of problems outside the normal blocks of technocrati, wikepedia, etc. One of the main problems is that hotmail is ridiculously slow to load, and on top of that someone is trying to put up an unsecured double load copy of my sign in page to try and steal my passwords….thank god for security checks.

The fallacy of getting around the firewall by using .cn names is false. The only real way of getting around the firewall is to host in China….but then you’re likely to be hosted on a spam server and all your stuff will get blocked anyway by personal/system firewalls(no joke almost every host is a spam farm).

From experience the best way around this problem is to host your sites on dedicated servers that hold no bad info about China and the usual taboo topics. Being on shared servers means that someone on the server could put up something that is banned, and China would ban the whole server.

]]> By: Around the Web in China’s digital media http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1667488 Around the Web in China’s digital media Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:55:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1667488 [...] calls for howling and waves of protest to a petition and calls for international condemnation to entertaining the notion of bartering with China’s entry into a major regional free trade agree... at TechCrunch and pages of discussion at Slashdot, to the point that when informed clarifications [...] [...] calls for howling and waves of protest to a petition and calls for international condemnation to entertaining the notion of bartering with China’s entry into a major regional free trade agree… at TechCrunch and pages of discussion at Slashdot, to the point that when informed clarifications [...]

]]> By: itechcrunch.cn http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1663247 itechcrunch.cn Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:52:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1663247 wikipedia,flickr,and feedburner and so on can not use in China.i hate gfw. wikipedia,flickr,and feedburner and so on can not use in China.i hate gfw.

]]> By: MP6 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1662575 MP6 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:53:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1662575 I'm sorry to hear that. I’m sorry to hear that.

]]> By: Adam Sweet http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1662447 Adam Sweet Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:26:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1662447 It's BS of course. My wife and I own an apartment in Shenyang, China, and travel back and forth frequently between there and MA USA where we own a house. Her family still lives there, and we communicate regularly over email, MSN, Yahoo IM and Gmail. We have never been blocked from looking at a site we want to see in China, never been blocked in any way from using an IM client, and never had a communications problem with email or the internet mail programs such as Gmail and Hotmail. Personally, I think it's so much propaganda. There are no blocks that I'm aware of on websites in China, certainly not to sites that I regularly visit, and I can retrieve my bloglines subscription at any location we visit with internet access throughout the country. In fact, China has a much more reliable high-speed internet service in most cities, than I have here in the US. People that write these ridiculous articles should try living there before reposting what they read in the tabloids. It’s BS of course. My wife and I own an apartment in Shenyang, China, and travel back and forth frequently between there and MA USA where we own a house. Her family still lives there, and we communicate regularly over email, MSN, Yahoo IM and Gmail. We have never been blocked from looking at a site we want to see in China, never been blocked in any way from using an IM client, and never had a communications problem with email or the internet mail programs such as Gmail and Hotmail.

Personally, I think it’s so much propaganda. There are no blocks that I’m aware of on websites in China, certainly not to sites that I regularly visit, and I can retrieve my bloglines subscription at any location we visit with internet access throughout the country.

In fact, China has a much more reliable high-speed internet service in most cities, than I have here in the US.

People that write these ridiculous articles should try living there before reposting what they read in the tabloids.

]]> By: david http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660668 david Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:18:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660668 did anyone see Cisco's ad? a beautiful great wall... did anyone see Cisco’s ad? a beautiful great wall…

]]> By: Saagar http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660555 Saagar Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:24:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660555 Star News: Duncan gets Techcrunch banned in China with his imaginary post and thus loses a big marketshare for Mike Arrington in emerging market :) Star News: Duncan gets Techcrunch banned in China with his imaginary post and thus loses a big marketshare for Mike Arrington in emerging market :)

]]> By: Rick in China http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660326 Rick in China Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:45:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660326 Listen to Fons (#29). he knows his stuff. And he's right. No blanket ban in China. This ars technica support lists no sources. It's flat out wrong. Rick Martin Dalian, China Listen to Fons (#29). he knows his stuff.

And he’s right.

No blanket ban in China. This ars technica support lists no sources.

It’s flat out wrong.

Rick Martin
Dalian, China

]]> By: Mgccl http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660298 Mgccl Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:16:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660298 I was in China during 07/07 to 09/07. and from my experience, China have different ISPs and not all ISP are synchronized on what have to be blocked. back then, wikipedia was blocked and I was really mad at it-.- don't know about it now.. I was in China during 07/07 to 09/07. and from my experience, China have different ISPs and not all ISP are synchronized on what have to be blocked. back then, wikipedia was blocked and I was really mad at it-.-
don’t know about it now..

]]> By: Flash The Ripper http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660213 Flash The Ripper Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:45:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660213 Could this be caused by the ongoing Burmese events and online campaign in the support of Burmese people against the China? Could this be caused by the ongoing Burmese events and online campaign in the support of Burmese people against the China?

]]> By: Amy Wilsch http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660189 Amy Wilsch Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:33:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660189 Maybe they're envious of Burma/Myanmar and since retribution against them is scant, they're using that lesson as an opportunity to test the limits again? Maybe they’re envious of Burma/Myanmar and since retribution against them is scant, they’re using that lesson as an opportunity to test the limits again?

]]> By: Clyde Smith http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660011 Clyde Smith Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:02:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1660011 "Whilst some could well argue about the rights of a sovereign nation to censor content within its own borders, the more pressing issue from a Web 2.0 development and industry perspective is the use of the Firewall by the Chinese Government to unfairly block foreign competition, particularly at a time where the Chinese Government is trying to start, or is already in Free Trade Agreement negotiations with a number of countries, including Australia." This kind of nonsense censorship is why I've passed up on opportunities to make some things happen in China. I can't do my work there. But I also don't want to become complicit in any state's victory over the people or become someone who would say that the most pressing issue is a business issue when we're discussing freedom. Joseph at 32: "Please don’t pay lip service to China’s paranoid despotism by alluding to a possible argument for state censorship. Reasonable people know that this is morally objectionable–it’s OK to call it both objectively wrong and bad for business. It’s also directly antithetical to Web 2.0, which calls for a thriving ecosystem of open participation." Right on. We've money and room to move. Let's not get so caught up in the bottom line or so wrapped up in what the people in power claim to be culturally sensitive issues that we can't support humans who don't have the resources we have. “Whilst some could well argue about the rights of a sovereign nation to censor content within its own borders, the more pressing issue from a Web 2.0 development and industry perspective is the use of the Firewall by the Chinese Government to unfairly block foreign competition, particularly at a time where the Chinese Government is trying to start, or is already in Free Trade Agreement negotiations with a number of countries, including Australia.”

This kind of nonsense censorship is why I’ve passed up on opportunities to make some things happen in China. I can’t do my work there.

But I also don’t want to become complicit in any state’s victory over the people or become someone who would say that the most pressing issue is a business issue when we’re discussing freedom.

Joseph at 32:
“Please don’t pay lip service to China’s paranoid despotism by alluding to a possible argument for state censorship. Reasonable people know that this is morally objectionable–it’s OK to call it both objectively wrong and bad for business.
It’s also directly antithetical to Web 2.0, which calls for a thriving ecosystem of open participation.”

Right on. We’ve money and room to move. Let’s not get so caught up in the bottom line or so wrapped up in what the people in power claim to be culturally sensitive issues that we can’t support humans who don’t have the resources we have.

]]> By: awflasher http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659997 awflasher Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:52:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659997 Yes, you can read this in RSS. You can read this in techcrunch.com, and even post a comment. But you cannot access it via RSS@feedburner For the "feeds.feedburne-r.com" is banned Yes, you can read this in RSS. You can read this in techcrunch.com, and even post a comment. But you cannot access it via RSS@feedburner
For the “feeds.feedburne-r.com” is banned

]]> By: Joseph Price http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659931 Joseph Price Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:51:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659931 >>Whilst some could well argue about the rights of a sovereign nation >> to censor content within its own borders, the more pressing issue >> from a Web 2.0 development and industry perspective is the use >> of the Firewall by the Chinese Government to unfairly block foreign >> competition..." Oh come on, Duncan. Please don't pay lip service to China's paranoid despotism by alluding to a possible argument for state censorship. Reasonable people know that this is morally objectionable--it's OK to call it both objectively wrong and bad for business. It's also directly antithetical to Web 2.0, which calls for a thriving ecosystem of open participation. Call a spade a spade, please. >>Whilst some could well argue about the rights of a sovereign nation
>> to censor content within its own borders, the more pressing issue
>> from a Web 2.0 development and industry perspective is the use
>> of the Firewall by the Chinese Government to unfairly block foreign
>> competition…”

Oh come on, Duncan. Please don’t pay lip service to China’s paranoid despotism by alluding to a possible argument for state censorship. Reasonable people know that this is morally objectionable–it’s OK to call it both objectively wrong and bad for business.

It’s also directly antithetical to Web 2.0, which calls for a thriving ecosystem of open participation.

Call a spade a spade, please.

]]> By: sean liu http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659914 sean liu Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:29:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659914 I am a Chinese, here, in Beijing China. gfw (Great FireWall) once even blocked itself in some leading search engine, I am a computer programmer, I really hate unreasonable content sensor. However I belive things will become better, I can visit wikipedia which was banned for long time. You know, China is not a country under Chairman Mao (30 years ago, as illustration) now...... I am a Chinese, here, in Beijing China. gfw (Great FireWall) once even blocked itself in some leading search engine, I am a computer programmer, I really hate unreasonable content sensor.
However I belive things will become better, I can visit wikipedia which was banned for long time. You know, China is not a country under Chairman Mao (30 years ago, as illustration) now……

]]> By: bjcanuck http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659900 bjcanuck Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:04:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659900 Inaccurate. I'm in China and confirm what the others in China are saying. I tested some sites in http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/ and through a browser and that website is inaccurate as well. Inaccurate. I’m in China and confirm what the others in China are saying. I tested some sites in http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/ and through a browser and that website is inaccurate as well.

]]> By: geomark http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659895 geomark Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:56:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659895 Yeah, that greatwall site is bogus. It says one of my sites is blocked. But my server stats show lots of traffic from China. I'm constantly battling content theft by Chinese sploggers. Yeah, that greatwall site is bogus. It says one of my sites is blocked. But my server stats show lots of traffic from China. I’m constantly battling content theft by Chinese sploggers.

]]> By: Fons Tuinstra http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659879 Fons Tuinstra Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:32:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659879 A lot of nonsense going around again, I think it would make sense to listen to the guys who are reading and commenting from China. No blanket blocks of rss, no problems with this blog and zillions of others. A lot of nonsense going around again, I think it would make sense to listen to the guys who are reading and commenting from China. No blanket blocks of rss, no problems with this blog and zillions of others.

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]]> By: Jonathan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659830 Jonathan Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:33:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/04/china-blocking-rss-feeds/#comment-1659830 By the way, that http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/ website is complete crap. It listed three sites of mine in the US as blocked when I know for a fact that they are accessible from the heart of beijing and Dalian. Some ISPs are able to block content on a local basis. Others are blocked region wide. Depends on the ISP where the current server is hosted that they use for testing. By the way, that http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/ website is complete crap. It listed three sites of mine in the US as blocked when I know for a fact that they are accessible from the heart of beijing and Dalian. Some ISPs are able to block content on a local basis. Others are blocked region wide. Depends on the ISP where the current server is hosted that they use for testing.

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