Comments on: Are Editors Needed To Sort Through Digg Chaos? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:57:13 -0800 hourly 1 By: Paris Hilton Sex Tape Video 2 - Paris Hilton Exposed *HOT* http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1971046 Paris Hilton Sex Tape Video 2 - Paris Hilton Exposed *HOT* Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:56:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1971046 <strong>Where to download the Paris Hilton sex tape ssl...</strong> Recently leaked footage of the new Paris Hilton sex tape... Where to download the Paris Hilton sex tape ssl…

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]]> By: Penny Hercher http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1659936 Penny Hercher Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:01:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1659936 There is a difference between driving for relevancy for the consumer market - like the approaches discussed here - and getting to relevancy for the professional user. In the Wall St community, direct relevancy to the investor's topics of interest is critical to have any readership. Portfolio managers and analysts have no time, and time is money, so they will pay for a service that truly finds and filters investable information from the web. But even with the state of the art in algorithms it takes human editors to solve the last mile of relevancy for the user. There is a difference between driving for relevancy for the consumer market – like the approaches discussed here – and getting to relevancy for the professional user. In the Wall St community, direct relevancy to the investor’s topics of interest is critical to have any readership. Portfolio managers and analysts have no time, and time is money, so they will pay for a service that truly finds and filters investable information from the web. But even with the state of the art in algorithms it takes human editors to solve the last mile of relevancy for the user.

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1657879 John Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:14:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1657879 The comments are the best argument for human editors I've seen in a long time. Gosh, could people with deep subject matter expertise who can provide context for news stories provide some value? Who'd have thought it? The comments are the best argument for human editors I’ve seen in a long time. Gosh, could people with deep subject matter expertise who can provide context for news stories provide some value? Who’d have thought it?

]]> By: Adrian http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1657779 Adrian Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:27:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1657779 Digg's 'bury brigade' have held the site back. So too have the spammers. Digg’s ‘bury brigade’ have held the site back. So too have the spammers.

]]> By: CB http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1657272 CB Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:20:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1657272 CmdrTaco... Is that you? Hey buddy, long time now talk :-D CmdrTaco… Is that you? Hey buddy, long time now talk :-D

]]> By: William http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1657263 William Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:15:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1657263 I haven't dugg a story since July. The site is just too full of day-old CNN stories, conspiracy theories, and photos. Any submitted article is likely to be completely misinterpreted or oversimplified in the summary, and diggers clearly often comment on stories without reading them. Digg isn't a news aggregator as much as it's just a simple social bookmarking tool. There is no incentive for Kevin Rose and team to make any changes. Making any changes are likely to decrease their userbase, not increase it, and web 2.0, in the end, is about your userbase, and eventually monetizing it or selling it. I haven’t dugg a story since July. The site is just too full of day-old CNN stories, conspiracy theories, and photos. Any submitted article is likely to be completely misinterpreted or oversimplified in the summary, and diggers clearly often comment on stories without reading them. Digg isn’t a news aggregator as much as it’s just a simple social bookmarking tool. There is no incentive for Kevin Rose and team to make any changes. Making any changes are likely to decrease their userbase, not increase it, and web 2.0, in the end, is about your userbase, and eventually monetizing it or selling it.

]]> By: Popehammer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1657219 Popehammer Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:34:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1657219 This is a Del.icio.us type site for the education profession... http://www.edtags.org This is a Del.icio.us type site for the education profession… http://www.edtags.org

]]> By: Comedy Blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1657197 Comedy Blog Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:20:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1657197 Human editors may be the only way to save the site. I don't even bother going to Digg anymore because of the rampant paid diggs. I know several places where you can buy diggs. That makes the site about as relevant to me as the sunday circulars. Human editors may be the only way to save the site. I don’t even bother going to Digg anymore because of the rampant paid diggs. I know several places where you can buy diggs. That makes the site about as relevant to me as the sunday circulars.

]]> By: Omadsense http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1657078 Omadsense Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:47:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1657078 I don't like human editors [ maybe for front page] but i have had several friends who I turned on to netscape/propeller and they were banned within a day. Why not becuase of ads cuase they had none. Not becuase of copy right laws, becuase it was all original... I personally think it was bias and compatition attacks. I had one friend who to prove it was other or anchors who were against him created four accounts and all were articles posted that only had text - and one after another was blocked and banned???? Humans are falable... I don’t like human editors [ maybe for front page] but i have had several friends who I turned on to netscape/propeller and they were banned within a day. Why not becuase of ads cuase they had none. Not becuase of copy right laws, becuase it was all original… I personally think it was bias and compatition attacks.
I had one friend who to prove it was other or anchors who were against him created four accounts and all were articles posted that only had text – and one after another was blocked and banned????
Humans are falable…

]]> By: Ethan Bauley http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656984 Ethan Bauley Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:34:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656984 Michael A., Check out Scott Karp's "Publishing 2" startup; "standing on the shoulders of Digg", it's a platform for journalists [check his definition] to create and distribute news. It's pretty brilliant: http://blog.publish2.com/2007/08/14/introducing-publish2-networked-news/ Michael A.,

Check out Scott Karp’s “Publishing 2″ startup; “standing on the shoulders of Digg”, it’s a platform for journalists [check his definition] to create and distribute news. It’s pretty brilliant:

http://blog.pub...networked-news/

]]> By: Shafir Ahmad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656875 Shafir Ahmad Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:59:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656875 Are humans faster or slower than computers? Only time will tell Are humans faster or slower than computers? Only time will tell

]]> By: Jeffrey Bates http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656828 Jeffrey Bates Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:15:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656828 Obviously, given the site that I work in, I'm strongly in favor of a editorial role. The general issue that I've seen with pure user-based voting is that while direct democracy can work well within smaller, homogenous communities, the wheels start to fall off of it as it grows larger. This, for example, is why the United States is run as a republic, not as a direct democracy. The core issue is that as a community fragments, they cannot come to agreement on promotion of smaller more specialized stories that are very important, but don't have as much broad appeal -- so what ends up getting the votes necessary for the front page on most sites is either Lowest Common Denominater content or more inflammatory material. Obviously, given the site that I work in, I’m strongly in favor of a editorial role. The general issue that I’ve seen with pure user-based voting is that while direct democracy can work well within smaller, homogenous communities, the wheels start to fall off of it as it grows larger. This, for example, is why the United States is run as a republic, not as a direct democracy. The core issue is that as a community fragments, they cannot come to agreement on promotion of smaller more specialized stories that are very important, but don’t have as much broad appeal — so what ends up getting the votes necessary for the front page on most sites is either Lowest Common Denominater content or more inflammatory material.

]]> By: Mike http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656782 Mike Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:36:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656782 What they (and Digg, etc.) are trying to do has already been modeled, and quite successfully at that. Slashdot figured out how to balance community and editorial ten years ago (a decade this month, in fact). What they (and Digg, etc.) are trying to do has already been modeled, and quite successfully at that. Slashdot figured out how to balance community and editorial ten years ago (a decade this month, in fact).

]]> By: Ilya Grigorik http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656749 Ilya Grigorik Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:03:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656749 Interesting idea and well executed - kudos to the Shoutingmatch team. Niche/vertical aggregation has a lot of potential, but let's not forget that we can also filter sources based on other/individual metrics just as well. Take digg, for example: http://www.aiderss.com/great/digg.com :) Interesting idea and well executed – kudos to the Shoutingmatch team. Niche/vertical aggregation has a lot of potential, but let’s not forget that we can also filter sources based on other/individual metrics just as well. Take digg, for example: http://www.aide.../great/digg.com

:)

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]]> By: Rob Scott http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656688 Rob Scott Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:57:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656688 There are far too many "techie" news sites around. Try promoting the arts, literature - anything that Digg does not directly represent - there's enough tech stuff on the web. People who work on the web talking about people who work on the web just isn't that interesting. Try making something that connects ordinary human beings with the things they are interested in. That will see a marked increase in pageviews. In my opinion :) There are far too many “techie” news sites around. Try promoting the arts, literature – anything that Digg does not directly represent – there’s enough tech stuff on the web.

People who work on the web talking about people who work on the web just isn’t that interesting. Try making something that connects ordinary human beings with the things they are interested in. That will see a marked increase in pageviews.

In my opinion :)

]]> By: Zeid Nasser http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656669 Zeid Nasser Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:43:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656669 There are examples where editors already do that .... especially in 'vertical industry' Digg-like sites which aim to post news about particular sectors. There are examples where editors already do that …. especially in ‘vertical industry’ Digg-like sites which aim to post news about particular sectors.

]]> By: Json http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656561 Json Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:13:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656561 This isn't a new idea: www.newsmash.net has been around for a couple years now (with a slightly different approach). This isn’t a new idea: http://www.newsmash.net has been around for a couple years now (with a slightly different approach).

]]> By: Glenn Gillen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656421 Glenn Gillen Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:21:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656421 Personally I've found adding the feeds for digg, reddit, etc into http://aiderss.com and let it filter out the trash for me. Put the output of that feed into my feed reader along with the sites I want to read all the content on, and my time scanning articles in the morning is probably halved. Personally I’ve found adding the feeds for digg, reddit, etc into http://aiderss.com and let it filter out the trash for me. Put the output of that feed into my feed reader along with the sites I want to read all the content on, and my time scanning articles in the morning is probably halved.

]]> By: Berlin http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656406 Berlin Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:56:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656406 can you people for once post without promoting your damn websites? can you people for once post without promoting your damn websites?

]]> By: Hmm http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656134 Hmm Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:49:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656134 Maybe we should now call Techcrunch comments section "Shameless Self-Promotion for Web 2.0 startups" section. Maybe we should now call Techcrunch comments section “Shameless Self-Promotion for Web 2.0 startups” section.

]]> By: Brijit http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656095 Brijit Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:59:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656095 No need to throw the editorial baby out with the social media bathwater: there's a place for straight-up algorithm, a place for unfettered user-generation, and a place for traditional top-down editorial. This is especially true when you go beyond news, where busy people need more than aggregation -- they need abbreviation. And that's where our 100-word Brijit Abstracts come in. We're taking a hybrid approach at Brijit (check it out at http://www.brijit.com), mostly because a meaningful, qualitative summary/rating/review remains a job that individuals do better than crowds or algorithms. Our EDITORS define a coverage universe, then anyone in the CROWD with the time and inclination can claim an assignment and submit an abstract. Our editors then choose from among the submissions, spiff up the best one, and up it goes on the site. And then the ALGORITHM kicks in to generate our most popular list. Editors. Crowds. Algorithms. Love 'em all. Best, Brijit No need to throw the editorial baby out with the social media bathwater: there’s a place for straight-up algorithm, a place for unfettered user-generation, and a place for traditional top-down editorial.

This is especially true when you go beyond news, where busy people need more than aggregation — they need abbreviation. And that’s where our 100-word Brijit Abstracts come in.

We’re taking a hybrid approach at Brijit (check it out at http://www.brijit.com), mostly because a meaningful, qualitative summary/rating/review remains a job that individuals do better than crowds or algorithms. Our EDITORS define a coverage universe, then anyone in the CROWD with the time and inclination can claim an assignment and submit an abstract. Our editors then choose from among the submissions, spiff up the best one, and up it goes on the site. And then the ALGORITHM kicks in to generate our most popular list.

Editors. Crowds. Algorithms. Love ‘em all.

Best,
Brijit

]]> By: phenom http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1656040 phenom Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:55:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1656040 I don't care if news is not appealing to me....ignorance is bliss http://vidsonly.blogspot.com I don’t care if news is not appealing to me….ignorance is bliss
http://vidsonly.blogspot.com

]]> By: Tony Mars http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1655992 Tony Mars Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:07:45 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1655992 If you're looking for a true professionally edited content discovery service we've got what you're looking for at auditoriumA.com. There is just so much content on the web someone needed to start the web's first "channel" to make browsing through the best of it all an effortless process. While 8-10% of web users like to submit content, links, and stories there is a much larger percentage of people who just want to spend time watch, reading, and listening to great stuff. They don't really care how it gets there they just know quality when they see it. Sorry, Michael - professional editors are here to stay. Check us out and let us know what you think. http://www.auditoriumA.com Where discerning web users find real quality, real fast. If you’re looking for a true professionally edited content discovery service we’ve got what you’re looking for at auditoriumA.com. There is just so much content on the web someone needed to start the web’s first “channel” to make browsing through the best of it all an effortless process.

While 8-10% of web users like to submit content, links, and stories there is a much larger percentage of people who just want to spend time watch, reading, and listening to great stuff. They don’t really care how it gets there they just know quality when they see it.

Sorry, Michael – professional editors are here to stay. Check us out and let us know what you think.

http://www.auditoriumA.com
Where discerning web users find real quality, real fast.

]]> By: AnonTroll http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/comment-page-1/#comment-1655981 AnonTroll Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:47:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/02/are-editors-needed-to-sort-through-digg-chaos/#comment-1655981 K, I couldn't agree more, so the scary thought is that popular sites like Digg, reddit, etc are controlled by high schoolers and college students, hmm. K, I couldn’t agree more, so the scary thought is that popular sites like Digg, reddit, etc are controlled by high schoolers and college students, hmm.

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