Comments on: Search For Steve Fossett Expands To Amazon’s Mechanical Turk http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:51:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: TWoN - Part One « Net-Centric Economics http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-2415382 TWoN - Part One « Net-Centric Economics Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:01:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-2415382 [...] Fossett search (AvWeb) - cite1, cite 2, cite3, cite4, [...] [...] Fossett search (AvWeb) - cite1, cite 2, cite3, cite4, [...]

]]> By: Spare Cycles: Distributing Computing Among Machines and Minds « Tropophilia http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1929088 Spare Cycles: Distributing Computing Among Machines and Minds « Tropophilia Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:10:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1929088 [...] of Steve Fossett’s downed aircraft.  Fossett was not found and the search was ended, but as many as six previously unknown crash sites were discovered in the process.  Because this project is not in [...] [...] of Steve Fossett’s downed aircraft.  Fossett was not found and the search was ended, but as many as six previously unknown crash sites were discovered in the process.  Because this project is not in [...]

]]> By: LUCY'S GETTING MAD!!!!! http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1660320 LUCY'S GETTING MAD!!!!! Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:41:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1660320 THIS STINKS...WHY IS STEVE FOSSETT HIDDEN? WHAT IS THE REAL TRUTH? THIS MAD MAN DID NOT VANISH INTO THIN AIR!!!!...WHO TOOK HIM???? EXACT BIRTH TIME ..........WOULD BE HELPFUL SINCE HE WILL NOT....BE RETURNING....UPRIGHT...CAN SOME ONE STOP MY POSTING PLEASE.... I JUST NEED A TIME HE WAS BORN...... IT'S ON HIS BIRTH CERT..... I KNOW HE HAD MANY FRIENDS....THAT SEEMED TO CARE..... WHEN HE WAS ALIVE....WHERE ARE YOU NOW?????? HELP...PASS ON THIS ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION....(mad lucy!) THIS STINKS…WHY IS STEVE FOSSETT HIDDEN? WHAT IS THE REAL TRUTH?
THIS MAD MAN DID NOT VANISH INTO THIN AIR!!!!…WHO TOOK HIM????
EXACT BIRTH TIME ……….WOULD BE HELPFUL SINCE HE WILL NOT….BE RETURNING….UPRIGHT…CAN SOME ONE STOP MY POSTING PLEASE….
I JUST NEED A TIME HE WAS BORN…… IT’S ON HIS BIRTH CERT…..
I KNOW HE HAD MANY FRIENDS….THAT SEEMED TO CARE…..
WHEN HE WAS ALIVE….WHERE ARE YOU NOW??????
HELP…PASS ON THIS ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION….(mad lucy!)

]]> By: David Slater http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1652247 David Slater Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:53:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1652247 Try coordinates 37 44 00.55,-117 57 17.73 Try coordinates 37 44 00.55,-117 57 17.73

]]> By: Gregor http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1647262 Gregor Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:45:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1647262 Dear Group, I have just joined and do not know how to refine my search. I have found some unidentified thing west of Las Vegas about 35-40% along a direct way to Fresno (as the crow flies). It is at 36 degrees 28' 19.26"N and 116 degrees 44'53.19W Looking at it from 100 m eye alt, it looks to be about 5-6 times the length of a small car. What is it? possibly a wing of an aircraft that struck the mountain? Please assist me and advise me on how to proceed and refine the search skills, as I am not familiar with Google Earth etc. Thank you Gregor in Riga gregor_macd@yahoo.se Tel + 371-26377469 Dear Group,

I have just joined and do not know how to refine my search.

I have found some unidentified thing west of Las Vegas about 35-40%
along a direct way to Fresno (as the crow flies).
It is at 36 degrees 28′ 19.26″N and 116 degrees 44′53.19W

Looking at it from 100 m eye alt, it looks to be about 5-6 times
the length of a small car. What is it? possibly a wing of an aircraft
that struck the mountain?

Please assist me and advise me on how to proceed and refine the search skills, as I am not familiar with Google Earth etc.

Thank you

Gregor in Riga
gregor_macd@yahoo.se
Tel + 371-26377469

]]> By: Search For Steve Fossett Expands To Amazon’s Mechanical Turk : Windows Observer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1645268 Search For Steve Fossett Expands To Amazon’s Mechanical Turk : Windows Observer Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:12:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1645268 [...] View article… [...] [...] View article… [...]

]]> By: Nick http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1643069 Nick Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:51:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1643069 I have gone through some of the pics and hope many people do the same. The area that is being searched contains very rugged terrain that is off limits to the public, mostly for military purposes. Even the few areas that are available for the public to search on the ground are extremely remote with very few roads. For these reasons and the weather challenges, the use of technology would be a great step forward. As for the "average joe"... think about it.... if a couple of people like Steve are found with the technology, there would be a need for the service and an interest in people being able to help from home and for companies to sponsor it for the publicity. Boils down to we help a few millionaires and hopefully 10,000 people can help us look for a lost family member in the future. I have gone through some of the pics and hope many people do the same. The area that is being searched contains very rugged terrain that is off limits to the public, mostly for military purposes. Even the few areas that are available for the public to search on the ground are extremely remote with very few roads. For these reasons and the weather challenges, the use of technology would be a great step forward.

As for the “average joe”… think about it…. if a couple of people like Steve are found with the technology, there would be a need for the service and an interest in people being able to help from home and for companies to sponsor it for the publicity. Boils down to we help a few millionaires and hopefully 10,000 people can help us look for a lost family member in the future.

]]> By: Dorothy Purdie http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1641893 Dorothy Purdie Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:32:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1641893 Why can't my husband and I get the search for Steve Fossett maps, we haven't finished looking! Why can’t my husband and I get the search for Steve Fossett maps, we haven’t finished looking!

]]> By: Don Richardson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640973 Don Richardson Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:16:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640973 try coordinates 38.1874,-118.7795 try coordinates 38.1874,-118.7795

]]> By: Don Richardson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640931 Don Richardson Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:52:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640931 Try coordinates 38.18744,-118.81341 Try coordinates 38.18744,-118.81341

]]> By: BIRTH TIME WANTED http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640500 BIRTH TIME WANTED Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:28:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640500 PLEASE POST STEVE FOSSETT'S EXACT BIRTH TIME THAT IS NOT TOO MUCH TO AS???? FOR ALL WHO LOVE AND ADMIRE THIS MAN...I WANT OTHERS TO ..."HELP"...FIND HIM...IS THERE A FEAR TO PUT THAT IN PUBLIC VIEW. IT KILLS ME ...THIS MAN COULD BE HUNG UP SOME WHERE WAITING AND WONDERING WHY WON'T THEY COME FOR ME...I LAUGH THAT HE HIDE SO "OUT OF SIGHT"...BUT I BELIEVE HE IS STILL WAITING FOR OUR HELP!!!! ON STEVE'S BIRTH CERT. IS TIME DAY MONTH AND YEAR BORN...WHAT MAKES THIS SO IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL US THE TIME!!!!! I'M MAD!!!!! STEVE DESERVED ALL THE HELP FROM ALL THE RESOURCES....SOME ONE SHORT CHANGED STEVE...AND THAT BREAKS MY HEART...STILL WAITING!....HELP! PLEASE POST STEVE FOSSETT’S EXACT BIRTH TIME THAT IS NOT TOO MUCH TO AS???? FOR ALL WHO LOVE AND ADMIRE THIS MAN…I WANT OTHERS
TO …”HELP”…FIND HIM…IS THERE A FEAR TO PUT THAT IN PUBLIC VIEW.
IT KILLS ME …THIS MAN COULD BE HUNG UP SOME WHERE WAITING AND WONDERING WHY WON’T THEY COME FOR ME…I LAUGH THAT HE HIDE SO “OUT OF SIGHT”…BUT I BELIEVE HE IS STILL WAITING FOR OUR HELP!!!!
ON STEVE’S BIRTH CERT. IS TIME DAY MONTH AND YEAR BORN…WHAT MAKES THIS SO IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL US THE TIME!!!!! I’M MAD!!!!! STEVE DESERVED ALL THE HELP FROM ALL THE RESOURCES….SOME ONE SHORT CHANGED STEVE…AND THAT BREAKS MY HEART…STILL WAITING!….HELP!

]]> By: AyJay http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640310 AyJay Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:40:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640310 You can post your sightings of interest at my blogsite: http://fossettsightings.blogspot.com You can post your sightings of interest at my blogsite:
http://fossettsightings.blogspot.com

]]> By: Don Richardson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640132 Don Richardson Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:18:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640132 I used the wrong coordinates in my last comment .Tparoper coordinates are 38.49625,-118.92073. I think it looks like a plane I used the wrong coordinates in my last comment .Tparoper coordinates are

38.49625,-118.92073. I think it looks like a plane

]]> By: Don Richardson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640044 Don Richardson Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:43:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1640044 At 38.49625,-118.58740 it looks like an plane. At 38.49625,-118.58740 it looks like an plane.

]]> By: Lee http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1637683 Lee Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:17:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1637683 @SOG I can't see anything in that area I'm afraid. Heard yesterday that the search is now officially off. I suppose we can still keep looking. @SOG

I can’t see anything in that area I’m afraid.

Heard yesterday that the search is now officially off. I suppose we can still keep looking.

]]> By: SOG http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1635261 SOG Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:49:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1635261 re my previous coords, lat=38.3713946336, lon=-119.781454112, this is in the same area that is discussed in the following story of a plane crash http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/13/fossett/index.html if I use google maps ( to get an older image) there is a lot of perpendicular faulting in the area so that might be the cause but assuming that the same lat/lon coords actually map to the same spot (big ask I know) then there doesnt seem to be a preexisting feature that I can see. anyone have a view? re my previous coords, lat=38.3713946336, lon=-119.781454112,
this is in the same area that is discussed in the following story of a plane crash
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/.....index.html

if I use google maps ( to get an older image) there is a lot of perpendicular faulting in the area so that might be the cause but assuming that the same lat/lon coords actually map to the same spot (big ask I know) then there doesnt seem to be a preexisting feature that I can see.

anyone have a view?

]]> By: SOG http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1635217 SOG Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:09:30 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1635217 Lee, TJ have a look at these coords, iand tell me what you see ( and yes I have logged it ) lat=38.3713946336, lon=-119.781454112 SOG Lee, TJ

have a look at these coords, iand tell me what you see ( and yes I have logged it )

lat=38.3713946336, lon=-119.781454112

SOG

]]> By: Malas Palabras » Jorge Julio Fosset http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1628325 Malas Palabras » Jorge Julio Fosset Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:09:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1628325 [...] de la búsqueda tradicional con helicópteros civiles y militares, a Fossett se lo busca con un sistema colaborativo desde la web. El proyecto fue armado por Amazon y consiste en que diferentes usuarios de todo el mundo revisen [...] [...] de la búsqueda tradicional con helicópteros civiles y militares, a Fossett se lo busca con un sistema colaborativo desde la web. El proyecto fue armado por Amazon y consiste en que diferentes usuarios de todo el mundo revisen [...]

]]> By: Paul Annett http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1627675 Paul Annett Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:51:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1627675 I can't help thinking that Steve might be found faster if the Mechanical Turk website was easier to use. In this instance, bad interface design could mean the difference between life and death. I've blogged about it here: http://paulannett.co.uk/mechanical-turk-ui-design I can’t help thinking that Steve might be found faster if the Mechanical Turk website was easier to use. In this instance, bad interface design could mean the difference between life and death.

I’ve blogged about it here:
http://paulannett.co.uk/mechanical-turk-ui-design

]]> By: Lee http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1625803 Lee Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:50:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1625803 @TJ Can't see anything special at the coordinates you suggested. I've uploaded an image here: http://www.covesc.org.uk/uploads/googleearthimage.jpg Looks like a mobile home in the top left corner and a truck on the road. IMHO @TJ

Can’t see anything special at the coordinates you suggested. I’ve uploaded an image here:

http://www.covesc.org.uk/uploa.....himage.jpg

Looks like a mobile home in the top left corner and a truck on the road.

IMHO

]]> By: Rennie Goyette http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1622506 Rennie Goyette Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:38:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1622506 Jeremy Moy and James Hoiby -- I was involved in having the CAP look for a buddy who didn't show up as scheduled on a Thursday eve. I was called on Monday and informed of his absence. I contacted Wash. DC and got the Air Force to authorize a search. My friend hit a peak (bad weather So of Las Vegas) and the ELT __121.5__ did not go off. CAP sent a Helo to a suspected site. The Helo while hovering over the plane, sent it another 1000 feet down the mountain side-----the ELT sent a signal. This was 9 (nine) days later. My friend was-- forunately-- killed on impact. He was found still safety belted in the pilot seat. At least the mountain lions and other vermin didn't get to him. So much for 121.5 ELT's. The 406 MHz should be more reliable---but at a price. By the way -- he didn't file a flight plan either. I didn't today flying to lunch 70 miles from my home field. Not rqd. then again I'm not in the Nevada hills. Jeremy Moy and James Hoiby — I was involved in having the CAP look for a buddy who didn’t show up as scheduled on a Thursday eve. I was called on Monday and informed of his absence. I contacted Wash. DC and got the Air Force to authorize a search. My friend hit a peak (bad weather So of Las Vegas) and the ELT __121.5__ did not go off. CAP sent a Helo to a suspected site. The Helo while hovering over the plane, sent it another 1000 feet down the mountain side—–the ELT sent a signal. This was 9 (nine) days later. My friend was– forunately– killed on impact. He was found still safety belted in the pilot seat. At least the mountain lions and other vermin didn’t get to him. So much for 121.5 ELT’s. The 406 MHz should be more reliable—but at a price. By the way — he didn’t file a flight plan either. I didn’t today flying to lunch 70 miles from my home field. Not rqd. then again I’m not in the Nevada hills.

]]> By: TJ http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1619952 TJ Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:09:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1619952 Can someone lookup these coordinates on the updated google earth images (The KML file)? Google Earth crashes on startup for me on Ubuntu for some reason. 38.423996,-119.036179 Looking through 250 images this was by far the most promising. I have submitted it through mechanical turk. Thanks, TJ Can someone lookup these coordinates on the updated google earth images (The KML file)? Google Earth crashes on startup for me on Ubuntu for some reason.

38.423996,-119.036179

Looking through 250 images this was by far the most promising. I have submitted it through mechanical turk.

Thanks,

TJ

]]> By: Brian Ruddell http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1619516 Brian Ruddell Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:01:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1619516 I have been on many search and rescue flights in north eastern British Columbia, Canada. Some have lasted a whole month. Some pilots have survived in the cold north for a month or more. Steve could still be alive and well. Not all ELT,s are capable of working properly due to the crash circumstances. This makes for a much larger and longer search. The Primary Search Area now becomes the full radius of the amount of fuel aboard the plane and it's range from the point of takeoff. We have covered the entire Search Zone a total of three times before any consideration to suspend the search. Mountian terrain is very difficult and time consuming searching. You must remember that you may be looking for wreckage. I have been on many search and rescue flights in north eastern British Columbia, Canada. Some have lasted a whole month. Some pilots have survived in the cold north for a month or more. Steve could still be alive and well. Not all ELT,s are capable of working properly due to the crash
circumstances. This makes for a much larger and longer search. The Primary Search Area now becomes the full radius of the amount of fuel aboard the plane and it’s range from the point of takeoff. We have covered the entire Search Zone a total of three times before any consideration to suspend the search. Mountian terrain is very difficult and time consuming searching. You must remember that you may be looking for wreckage.

]]> By: nick http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1617633 nick Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:26:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1617633 @Ken Just to doublecheck, I opened the KML file (didn't realize it also put an overlay on the image) and went to that location, but I saw the same thing. So I'm not realy sure if that overlay is actually working for me... (no slight move to the left) OTOH, I can see it on google maps as well. So they're probably rocks, as you say... @Ken

Just to doublecheck, I opened the KML file (didn’t realize it also put an overlay on the image) and went to that location, but I saw the same thing.
So I’m not realy sure if that overlay is actually working for me… (no slight move to the left)

OTOH, I can see it on google maps as well. So they’re probably rocks, as you say…

]]> By: Ken Barbalace http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1616109 Ken Barbalace Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:51:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/09/08/search-for-steve-fossett-expands-to-amazons-mechanical-turk/#comment-1616109 @Nick, Are you sure you are looking at the new satellite photos that are part of the KML overlay for the Steve Fossett search or are you looking at the old satellite photos? There is nothing of interest on the new photos at the coordinates you listed. As has been frequently the case, the old and new satellite photos don't line up perfectly, and on the old photos I saw a rock formation on the coordinates you provided. On the new photos this rock formation is to the east slightly. @Nick, Are you sure you are looking at the new satellite photos that are part of the KML overlay for the Steve Fossett search or are you looking at the old satellite photos? There is nothing of interest on the new photos at the coordinates you listed. As has been frequently the case, the old and new satellite photos don’t line up perfectly, and on the old photos I saw a rock formation on the coordinates you provided. On the new photos this rock formation is to the east slightly.

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