Comments on: While Apple And NBC Squabble Like Girls In A Schoolyard, BitTorrent Keeps On Rolling http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:46:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: SUMO http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1589247 SUMO Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:12:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1589247 http://sumotorrent.com/search/heroes Torrents rock ! http://sumotorrent.com/search/heroes

Torrents rock !

]]> By: Neil J. Squillante http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1587649 Neil J. Squillante Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:30:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1587649 You used "really" twice in the same sentence. Sorry to quibble, but I hate when I do that myself. You used “really” twice in the same sentence. Sorry to quibble, but I hate when I do that myself.

]]> By: KirkH http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1587552 KirkH Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:24:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1587552 ITunes should act like a marketplace where merchants can set their prices. If NBC wants to charge $20 per Office episode then why not let them? Nobody would pay that price and it wouldn't cost Apple much. NBC would lower prices eventually. Is Apple's argument that it would be expensive to add the ability to charge variable prices? ITunes should act like a marketplace where merchants can set their prices. If NBC wants to charge $20 per Office episode then why not let them? Nobody would pay that price and it wouldn’t cost Apple much. NBC would lower prices eventually.

Is Apple’s argument that it would be expensive to add the ability to charge variable prices?

]]> By: Nemrut http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586944 Nemrut Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:07:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586944 @Reg, lol...this should be in the Techcrunch 'Coments Hall of Fame' @Reg, lol…this should be in the Techcrunch ‘Coments Hall of Fame’

]]> By: Ilan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586441 Ilan Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:34:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586441 Tip for NBC: You can't fight piracy, the right thing for you and other TV stations to do is - put a download section of shows (not streamable) with a 2 minute ad before the show. That would solve the whole case. It's a win win. Tip for NBC: You can’t fight piracy, the right thing for you and other TV stations to do is - put a download section of shows (not streamable) with a 2 minute ad before the show. That would solve the whole case. It’s a win win.

]]> By: Garth http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586375 Garth Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:00:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586375 This is what I see if I search on torrent spy Torrentspy Acts to Protect Privacy Sorry, but because you are located in the USA you cannot use the search features of the Torrentspy.com website.Torrentspy's decision to stop accepting US visitors was NOT compelled by any Court but rather an uncertain legal climate in the US regarding user privacy and an apparent tension between US and European Union privacy laws. We hope you understand and will take the opportunity to visit one of these other fine websites: This is what I see if I search on torrent spy

Torrentspy Acts to Protect Privacy
Sorry, but because you are located in the USA you cannot use the search features of the Torrentspy.com website.Torrentspy’s decision to stop accepting US visitors was NOT compelled by any Court but rather an uncertain legal climate in the US regarding user privacy and an apparent tension between US and European Union privacy laws.

We hope you understand and will take the opportunity to visit one of these other fine websites:

]]> By: Word Hugger http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586313 Word Hugger Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:57:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586313 Long live bittorrent! Long live bittorrent!

]]> By: Dominic http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586291 Dominic Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:08:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586291 Duncan, Why not just write in a way that makes sense. It's worse than someone trying to interpret the Bible. Duncan,

Why not just write in a way that makes sense. It’s worse than someone trying to interpret the Bible.

]]> By: rodrigo http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586262 rodrigo Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:28:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586262 how stupid is NBC for doing this BEFORE having an alternative in place? if hulu is up and running, taking credit cards and functional then ok... tell apple to take a hike (which is still a stupid thing to do). But doing this MONTHS before an alternative exists is just so stupid. Zucker has been leading nbc into the toilet for years yet has unexplicably been promoted the worse the network has been doing. I'll give him one thing... at least he is consistant. how stupid is NBC for doing this BEFORE having an alternative in place? if hulu is up and running, taking credit cards and functional then ok… tell apple to take a hike (which is still a stupid thing to do). But doing this MONTHS before an alternative exists is just so stupid.

Zucker has been leading nbc into the toilet for years yet has unexplicably been promoted the worse the network has been doing. I’ll give him one thing… at least he is consistant.

]]> By: steve ballmer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586222 steve ballmer Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:11:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586222 BTW what is a torrent? http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com BTW what is a torrent?

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586190 David Mackey Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:38:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586190 $4.99 for an episode is crazy expensive. $4.99 for an episode is crazy expensive.

]]> By: bob cobb http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586183 bob cobb Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:30:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586183 private torrent sites ftw. Public sites aren't worth the risk. private torrent sites ftw. Public sites aren’t worth the risk.

]]> By: Duncan Riley http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586181 Duncan Riley Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:24:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586181 Regular Reader (comment 22) We didn't refuse to write a review of Damsels In Distress at all, I wrote that very review, what I did note at the time though was that being male I probably wasn't the best judge of the site...and yet I still gave it 4 or 5 paragraphs and a fairly positive review for memory. Also in terms of knitting: that wasn't me. As for boys in the playground, they'd use fists, hence the references to girls: the implication is that girls would be more likely to fight with words. I Regular Reader (comment 22)
We didn’t refuse to write a review of Damsels In Distress at all, I wrote that very review, what I did note at the time though was that being male I probably wasn’t the best judge of the site…and yet I still gave it 4 or 5 paragraphs and a fairly positive review for memory.

Also in terms of knitting: that wasn’t me. As for boys in the playground, they’d use fists, hence the references to girls: the implication is that girls would be more likely to fight with words. I

]]> By: mika http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586155 mika Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:46:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586155 #11 Yezidi, you arab shit. i hope israeli soldiers finish off all you mother fuskers.. #11 Yezidi,

you arab shit. i hope israeli soldiers finish off all you mother fuskers..

]]> By: Reg http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586147 Reg Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:35:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586147 @Dominic, It's a very apt description. Girls tend to use passive aggressive tactics to escalate their disputes. Spreading innuendo, destroying reputations, attempting to make each other lose friends, rather than more masculine thuggery of acting laying into each with fists. Issuing press release after press release along the lines of: "X wouldn't listen." "Y said they wanted more money!" "Nah er, did not." "Did too, you're just a greedy pig." "You're more greedy. You want all the music AND video." "That's 'cos everyone loves me. Not even mommy loves you." "Take that back!" "Won't." "You're not getting my video." "Fine." "Good." "Never speaking to you again." "Never speaking to you again first." "Fine." When the boys get involved, that's when the lawsuits start flying. Really, you can pretty much learn everything you need to know about the business world in kindergarten. @Dominic,

It’s a very apt description. Girls tend to use passive aggressive tactics to escalate their disputes.

Spreading innuendo, destroying reputations, attempting to make each other lose friends, rather than more masculine thuggery of acting laying into each with fists.

Issuing press release after press release along the lines of:

“X wouldn’t listen.”
“Y said they wanted more money!”
“Nah er, did not.”
“Did too, you’re just a greedy pig.”
“You’re more greedy. You want all the music AND video.”
“That’s ‘cos everyone loves me. Not even mommy loves you.”
“Take that back!”
“Won’t.”
“You’re not getting my video.”
“Fine.”
“Good.”
“Never speaking to you again.”
“Never speaking to you again first.”
“Fine.”

When the boys get involved, that’s when the lawsuits start flying.

Really, you can pretty much learn everything you need to know about the business world in kindergarten.

]]> By: 我挖网(digbuzz.com) http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586137 我挖网(digbuzz.com) Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:22:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586137 <strong>While Apple And NBC Squabble Like Girls In A Schoolyard, BitTorrent Keeps On Rolling...</strong> NBC Dumps iTunes! Apple Dumps NBC! What ever the headline, one thing is sure: by making it even more difficult to obtain affordable, legal downloads of TV shows, more and more people will be turning to Bit Torrent. In Apple’s case, it’s not really ... While Apple And NBC Squabble Like Girls In A Schoolyard, BitTorrent Keeps On Rolling…

NBC Dumps iTunes! Apple Dumps NBC! What ever the headline, one thing is sure: by making it even more difficult to obtain affordable, legal downloads of TV shows, more and more people will be turning to Bit Torrent. In Apple’s case, it’s not really …

]]> By: Matt_ http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586086 Matt_ Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:21:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586086 Simple NBC now has HULU and its distributors and will stream thier shows for free with ads and they wont let you store the full show on your hard drive . If you want to download those shows to watch offine on a portable device or somewhere you don't have internet access they will make you pay thru the arse for it without ads (they cant generate a ad campaign for old content ) and wrap it up in some sort of DRM out of the fear that you will put the whole thing up on Bittorrent . Simple NBC now has HULU and its distributors and will stream thier shows for free with ads and they wont let you store the full show on your hard drive .

If you want to download those shows to watch offine on a portable device or somewhere you don’t have internet access they will make you pay thru the arse for it without ads (they cant generate a ad campaign for old content ) and wrap it up in some sort of DRM out of the fear that you will put the whole thing up on Bittorrent .

]]> By: Dominic http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586043 Dominic Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:11:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586043 DUNCAN DUNCAN DUNCAN HOW , pray tell, can you equate major corporations negotiating multi million dollar deals to squabbling like school girls? Oh wait, that's all you Brits think of, young school girls. DUNCAN DUNCAN DUNCAN

HOW , pray tell, can you equate major corporations negotiating multi million dollar deals to squabbling like school girls? Oh wait, that’s all you Brits think of, young school girls.

]]> By: Uncle Paul http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586011 Uncle Paul Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:03:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586011 An Open Email to NBC Universal www.stonethembas.com An Open Email to NBC Universal

http://www.stonethembas.com

]]> By: Ben Nilla http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586010 Ben Nilla Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:57:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1586010 Hi Duncan, Recently came across this link: http://newteevee.com/2007/08/23/startup-profile-divinity-metrics/ check it out as it might be relevant to advertisers and media companies. ~Ben Hi Duncan, Recently came across this link: http://newteevee.com/2007/08/2.....y-metrics/

check it out as it might be relevant to advertisers and media companies.

~Ben

]]> By: leah http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585986 leah Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:56:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585986 Here's my comedic take on the Apple/NBC split: http://www.itgumbo.com/mumbogumbo/2007/08/apple_takes_ball_goes_home.php Here’s my comedic take on the Apple/NBC split:
http://www.itgumbo.com/mumbogu.....s_home.php

]]> By: Your ISP http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585974 Your ISP Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:37:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585974 No One is blocking anything! Open up your ports on your router dummy! No One is blocking anything! Open up your ports on your router dummy!

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585951 Chris Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:02:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585951 torentspy works fine for me and I'm in the us. Who made up that crap.. # Garth September 1st, 2007 at 7:55 am Torrent Spy is no longer available to US IP addresses, and comcast has managed to stop a lot of bit torrent traffic on their network. maybe its your isp thats blocking it torentspy works fine for me and I’m in the us. Who made up that crap..

# Garth

September 1st, 2007 at 7:55 am

Torrent Spy is no longer available to US IP addresses, and comcast has managed to stop a lot of bit torrent traffic on their network.

maybe its your isp thats blocking it

]]> By: Simon Foster http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585918 Simon Foster Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:10:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585918 Apple and NBC (and every other media producer) just need to agree to standardize a FREE TV ad supported download model - Apple has access to Googles users data, Google can dynamically insert TV ads, then I download my show with TV ads that work for me. If it were that simple bit torrent stay the choice of nerd minority. Google can broker this and I haev know idea why they haven't already! And to anyone who thinks Ads suck - well of course they do for 3 minute youtube videos, and on todays TV too. But when you factor in behavioral relevance, they become entertainment. Sure, some users will skip them but many wont and I bet you Google can use technology to improve that number. TV ads pay for this stuff, always has. There's a solution here and it requires a little less greed and a little more sense. Apple and NBC (and every other media producer) just need to agree to standardize a FREE TV ad supported download model - Apple has access to Googles users data, Google can dynamically insert TV ads, then I download my show with TV ads that work for me. If it were that simple bit torrent stay the choice of nerd minority. Google can broker this and I haev know idea why they haven’t already!

And to anyone who thinks Ads suck - well of course they do for 3 minute youtube videos, and on todays TV too. But when you factor in behavioral relevance, they become entertainment. Sure, some users will skip them but many wont and I bet you Google can use technology to improve that number. TV ads pay for this stuff, always has. There’s a solution here and it requires a little less greed and a little more sense.

]]> By: Aydin Mirzaee http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585905 Aydin Mirzaee Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:50:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/31/while-apple-and-nbc-squabble-like-girls-in-a-schoolyard-bit-torrent-keeps-on-rolling/#comment-1585905 hmm... I just wonder how many people who read this blog actually spend time watching NBC shows anyway... aren't we all just too busy reading our feeds? Aydin. hmm… I just wonder how many people who read this blog actually spend time watching NBC shows anyway… aren’t we all just too busy reading our feeds?

Aydin.

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