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	<title>Comments on: The Tech Industry Wants You To Support The Fight For Fair Use</title>
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		<title>By: e.politics: online advocacy tools &#38; tactics &#187; Quick Hits &#8212; August 29, 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1958183</link>
		<dc:creator>e.politics: online advocacy tools &#38; tactics &#187; Quick Hits &#8212; August 29, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1958183</guid>
		<description>[...] The Tech Industry Wants You To Support The Fight For Fair Use. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Tech Industry Wants You To Support The Fight For Fair Use. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert H. Goretsky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1629676</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert H. Goretsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1629676</guid>
		<description>I'm all for 'fair use', but the term seems to enter a gray area when you talk about using a clip on a blog.  This blog, for example, has about ten sponsored ads on the side of the page.  So now, you're using someone else's copyrighted material for your own profit.  Slippery slope here..  

&lt;b&gt;Comment by Robert H. Goretsky of Hoboken, NJ&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for &#8216;fair use&#8217;, but the term seems to enter a gray area when you talk about using a clip on a blog.  This blog, for example, has about ten sponsored ads on the side of the page.  So now, you&#8217;re using someone else&#8217;s copyrighted material for your own profit.  Slippery slope here..  </p>
<p><b>Comment by Robert H. Goretsky of Hoboken, NJ</b></p>
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		<title>By: futuro.vc &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fair use em discussão no Brasil e no mundo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1592086</link>
		<dc:creator>futuro.vc &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fair use em discussão no Brasil e no mundo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1592086</guid>
		<description>[...] é comum ver produtores de conteúdo restringir de forma estúpida o fair use. O TechCrunch descobriu um dos exemplos no vídeo abaixo, da NFL, a liga de futebol americano. Antes da transmissão, a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] é comum ver produtores de conteúdo restringir de forma estúpida o fair use. O TechCrunch descobriu um dos exemplos no vídeo abaixo, da NFL, a liga de futebol americano. Antes da transmissão, a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri Baranov</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1587368</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuri Baranov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1587368</guid>
		<description>There's a conflict of interests which has become evident when the world entered the postindustrial era. Copyrighted works in most popular formats such as music and video have PUBLIC nature yet they are owned by PRIVATE entities.

This worked in the pre-digital age when private copyright holders could effectively combat "piracy" at the industrial level. People didn't have means to copy vinyl records (although my parents - I'm Russian - remember times when people in the Soviet Union somehow copied popular Western records as those were not available from the audio stores). At that time piracy at the personal level didn't exist for technical reasons. 

Later when compact cassettes were introduced to the market it started spreading as it became possible to record a radio broadcast where your favorite track was playing or make a copy for your friend or two. During these periods companies combated mainly illegal factories and illegal use in the commercial context.

When we entered the Information age their strategy became meaningless as the means of information reproduction have changed totally. They don't know how to fight local networks, P2P networks, Web 2.0 websites. Yes, they can fine Napster, sue a random user of a P2P network but that's not a capital punishment to those who infringe their copyright.

The truth is out there and I strongly believe that sooner or later, they'll have to face the harsh reality and put their concepts upside-down. One of Google's early business ideas was to sell premium access to search results but they learnt from Go2.com and changed the concept. What's their business? Search, email? No, advertising. Everything else is a way to sell it. Media publishers whose content is most infringed should learn from that and give birth to new innovative concepts of making their content public.  

For example, everyone should be able to share a game of baseball under a condition that advertising will not be cut out and you won't be able to skip it. Also, there should be a way for content creators and copyright holders to know that it's been played and created some value for their advertisers. Ideally, an advertiser should be able to change ads shown to reflect their current advertisers and make ads more relevant. 

In other words, big stupid guys should reinvent their industry and replace cause with effect and vice versa. The first who does it will make a home run. They should OFFER their content to distributors and PAY them some of proceeds from advertising. They should chase distributors and beg them to promote their content. A technology should be built around it. Note that this system would benefit end users as they would not have to pay directly (they'd pay through that portion of price that's formed by advertising costs). Also, it will benefit the makers of content that's highly requested by the masses. Those who can read needs of their customers will succeed most.
 
That would totally change things and put an end to copyright hysteria that's causing so much grief to everyone including copyright holders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a conflict of interests which has become evident when the world entered the postindustrial era. Copyrighted works in most popular formats such as music and video have PUBLIC nature yet they are owned by PRIVATE entities.</p>
<p>This worked in the pre-digital age when private copyright holders could effectively combat &#8220;piracy&#8221; at the industrial level. People didn&#8217;t have means to copy vinyl records (although my parents - I&#8217;m Russian - remember times when people in the Soviet Union somehow copied popular Western records as those were not available from the audio stores). At that time piracy at the personal level didn&#8217;t exist for technical reasons. </p>
<p>Later when compact cassettes were introduced to the market it started spreading as it became possible to record a radio broadcast where your favorite track was playing or make a copy for your friend or two. During these periods companies combated mainly illegal factories and illegal use in the commercial context.</p>
<p>When we entered the Information age their strategy became meaningless as the means of information reproduction have changed totally. They don&#8217;t know how to fight local networks, P2P networks, Web 2.0 websites. Yes, they can fine Napster, sue a random user of a P2P network but that&#8217;s not a capital punishment to those who infringe their copyright.</p>
<p>The truth is out there and I strongly believe that sooner or later, they&#8217;ll have to face the harsh reality and put their concepts upside-down. One of Google&#8217;s early business ideas was to sell premium access to search results but they learnt from Go2.com and changed the concept. What&#8217;s their business? Search, email? No, advertising. Everything else is a way to sell it. Media publishers whose content is most infringed should learn from that and give birth to new innovative concepts of making their content public.  </p>
<p>For example, everyone should be able to share a game of baseball under a condition that advertising will not be cut out and you won&#8217;t be able to skip it. Also, there should be a way for content creators and copyright holders to know that it&#8217;s been played and created some value for their advertisers. Ideally, an advertiser should be able to change ads shown to reflect their current advertisers and make ads more relevant. </p>
<p>In other words, big stupid guys should reinvent their industry and replace cause with effect and vice versa. The first who does it will make a home run. They should OFFER their content to distributors and PAY them some of proceeds from advertising. They should chase distributors and beg them to promote their content. A technology should be built around it. Note that this system would benefit end users as they would not have to pay directly (they&#8217;d pay through that portion of price that&#8217;s formed by advertising costs). Also, it will benefit the makers of content that&#8217;s highly requested by the masses. Those who can read needs of their customers will succeed most.</p>
<p>That would totally change things and put an end to copyright hysteria that&#8217;s causing so much grief to everyone including copyright holders.</p>
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		<title>By: Thos Sumner</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1585910</link>
		<dc:creator>Thos Sumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1585910</guid>
		<description>Copyright protects authorship; the authorship involved here is the commentary and the video production, not the events being reported. Copyright is simply irrelevant to discussing the game itself. Fair use could be involved if you are quoting the reportage.

The posted article's use of the video clip is itself an example of fair use.

As for the term of copyrights, two constitutional provisions are significant: first, the provision authorizing copyrights requires their term to be limited; second, after the fact legislation is prohibited. Between them, these prohibit congress from extending the term of existing copyrights. That is, they cannot change the limit retroactively nor can they provide an additional term (since the term would not then be limited).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyright protects authorship; the authorship involved here is the commentary and the video production, not the events being reported. Copyright is simply irrelevant to discussing the game itself. Fair use could be involved if you are quoting the reportage.</p>
<p>The posted article&#8217;s use of the video clip is itself an example of fair use.</p>
<p>As for the term of copyrights, two constitutional provisions are significant: first, the provision authorizing copyrights requires their term to be limited; second, after the fact legislation is prohibited. Between them, these prohibit congress from extending the term of existing copyrights. That is, they cannot change the limit retroactively nor can they provide an additional term (since the term would not then be limited).</p>
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		<title>By: worky</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1580792</link>
		<dc:creator>worky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1580792</guid>
		<description>As I understand it, fair use doesn't cover digital media.  The Digital Millenium Copyright act rewrote all the rules.  Welcome to bizarro world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand it, fair use doesn&#8217;t cover digital media.  The Digital Millenium Copyright act rewrote all the rules.  Welcome to bizarro world.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen W. Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579940</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen W. Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579940</guid>
		<description>Probably the best libertarian arguments against intellectual property have been made or summarized by the lawyer and libertarian theorist Stephan Kinsella. A good place to start is his Sep., 2000 article "In Defense of Napster" http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/kinsella2.html

Doug Lay states the core of the argument fairly well in an earlier comment: "Is there anything more tiresome than people who persist in comparing copyrights to physical property like cars and real estate? Come on - any 10-year old can see that when you take part of someone’s car you’re depriving them of the use of it, while if you copy part of someone’s song the original owner still has their entire work. Really, this whole “intellectual property” metaphor is pretty misleading and unhelpful."

Precisely. The reason that intellectual property laws are so arbitrary (14 year copyrights? Why not 1,000 years? Why not 1 year?) is that IP is artificial and incompatible with good old traditional physical property rights. Does the NFL own the part of my brain that remembers the game? Does it own my mouth if I talk about the game?

IP problems (including the endless patent litigation, etc.) are not going to go away, they are just going to get worse because IP cannot be reconciled with our property rights in our bodies and our justly acquired physical property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the best libertarian arguments against intellectual property have been made or summarized by the lawyer and libertarian theorist Stephan Kinsella. A good place to start is his Sep., 2000 article &#8220;In Defense of Napster&#8221; <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/kinsella2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/kinsella2.html</a></p>
<p>Doug Lay states the core of the argument fairly well in an earlier comment: &#8220;Is there anything more tiresome than people who persist in comparing copyrights to physical property like cars and real estate? Come on - any 10-year old can see that when you take part of someone’s car you’re depriving them of the use of it, while if you copy part of someone’s song the original owner still has their entire work. Really, this whole “intellectual property” metaphor is pretty misleading and unhelpful.&#8221;</p>
<p>Precisely. The reason that intellectual property laws are so arbitrary (14 year copyrights? Why not 1,000 years? Why not 1 year?) is that IP is artificial and incompatible with good old traditional physical property rights. Does the NFL own the part of my brain that remembers the game? Does it own my mouth if I talk about the game?</p>
<p>IP problems (including the endless patent litigation, etc.) are not going to go away, they are just going to get worse because IP cannot be reconciled with our property rights in our bodies and our justly acquired physical property.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579863</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579863</guid>
		<description>@ the nerve

Does your mommy know you're an idiot and keep bad company?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ the nerve</p>
<p>Does your mommy know you&#8217;re an idiot and keep bad company?</p>
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		<title>By: thenerve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579856</link>
		<dc:creator>thenerve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 01:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579856</guid>
		<description>To Dominic aka dumbinic -

Like this is constructive - "BTW, you should stop spoiling this great blog with your political views and get back to what it’s all about. Tech News."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Dominic aka dumbinic -</p>
<p>Like this is constructive - &#8220;BTW, you should stop spoiling this great blog with your political views and get back to what it’s all about. Tech News.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wrex</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579696</link>
		<dc:creator>wrex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579696</guid>
		<description>People shouldn't even watch football. I'm always aghast at the millions of men who watch these spandex clad people who pass balls between their legs. It seems so...GAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People shouldn&#8217;t even watch football. I&#8217;m always aghast at the millions of men who watch these spandex clad people who pass balls between their legs. It seems so&#8230;GAY.</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579691</link>
		<dc:creator>Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579691</guid>
		<description>Just an aside, the U.S. Constitution explicitly authorizes patents, copyrights, and trademarks in order "to promote progress", not to provide infinite revenue streams for companies or authors. The misnomer "Intellectual Property" was coined later to try to mis-appropriate the reverence that he have built up for physical property over millenia of social evolution for this concept of limited, government-granted monopolies. I think people would avoid silly analogies to cars and so forth if we called patents, trademarks, and copyrights what they really are - "Intellectual Monopolies".

I'm not saying we don't need them, I do think these government-granted Intellectual Monopolies do serve a purpose, but they should be viewed as a necessary evil that restricts our freedom - sort of like eminent domain - and should not masquerade as some fundamental core tenet of a free society like property.

That said, the NFL announcement can say whatever it wants at the beginning of their program - "You must mail us $1000 if you watch this program" - but since you don't agree to the terms, the material is governed by existing copyright law, not by their silly introductory statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an aside, the U.S. Constitution explicitly authorizes patents, copyrights, and trademarks in order &#8220;to promote progress&#8221;, not to provide infinite revenue streams for companies or authors. The misnomer &#8220;Intellectual Property&#8221; was coined later to try to mis-appropriate the reverence that he have built up for physical property over millenia of social evolution for this concept of limited, government-granted monopolies. I think people would avoid silly analogies to cars and so forth if we called patents, trademarks, and copyrights what they really are - &#8220;Intellectual Monopolies&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying we don&#8217;t need them, I do think these government-granted Intellectual Monopolies do serve a purpose, but they should be viewed as a necessary evil that restricts our freedom - sort of like eminent domain - and should not masquerade as some fundamental core tenet of a free society like property.</p>
<p>That said, the NFL announcement can say whatever it wants at the beginning of their program - &#8220;You must mail us $1000 if you watch this program&#8221; - but since you don&#8217;t agree to the terms, the material is governed by existing copyright law, not by their silly introductory statement.</p>
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		<title>By: bobh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579642</link>
		<dc:creator>bobh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579642</guid>
		<description>Talk about a straw man. To read that disclaimer as suggesting you can't discuss the broadcast is a ridiculous reach. It suggests nothing of the sort, but you give yourself a jumping-off point for your fair use diatribe.

Silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a straw man. To read that disclaimer as suggesting you can&#8217;t discuss the broadcast is a ridiculous reach. It suggests nothing of the sort, but you give yourself a jumping-off point for your fair use diatribe.</p>
<p>Silly.</p>
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		<title>By: PeeJay</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579561</link>
		<dc:creator>PeeJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579561</guid>
		<description>The absolute best explication of Fair Use was created by a Bucknell Prof. entirely using Disney images and sound.  (You probably know that Disney is known as possibly THE single most aggressive organization in the world when it comes to copyright).   

Will the tag show up in this post?  If it doesn't, use the Google: "fair use faden" will do it. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bK8AZSYtPU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The absolute best explication of Fair Use was created by a Bucknell Prof. entirely using Disney images and sound.  (You probably know that Disney is known as possibly THE single most aggressive organization in the world when it comes to copyright).   </p>
<p>Will the tag show up in this post?  If it doesn&#8217;t, use the Google: &#8220;fair use faden&#8221; will do it. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bK8AZSYtPU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bK8AZSYtPU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skevimc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579474</link>
		<dc:creator>Skevimc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579474</guid>
		<description>I think people should definitely sign the petition.  

HOWEVER!!!!  In the mean time, what we ALL need to do is to follow the rules the NFL has set up TO THE LETTER.  

Meaning....

EVERYONE needs to send the NFL a request to "describe" the game to a friend.  Then send them another one asking for permission to describe the game to another friend.  And so on and so on.  Assuming that you need permission for each seperate act.  Then we should write in to ask if we can gain permission for a group of two friends, i.e. "Dear NFL, I have a question about your permission.  May I obtain permission to describe the game last night to two friends or maybe three?  Or do I need seperate permission for each individual?"

That's not to mention asking permission for different games.  Just think about it.  If I ask for permission to describe just three games to three different friends, that's 9 requests that the NFL will need to process.  EACH WEEK!  This year's season could be extremely long for the admin people at the NFL (National (dog)Fighting League).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people should definitely sign the petition.  </p>
<p>HOWEVER!!!!  In the mean time, what we ALL need to do is to follow the rules the NFL has set up TO THE LETTER.  </p>
<p>Meaning&#8230;.</p>
<p>EVERYONE needs to send the NFL a request to &#8220;describe&#8221; the game to a friend.  Then send them another one asking for permission to describe the game to another friend.  And so on and so on.  Assuming that you need permission for each seperate act.  Then we should write in to ask if we can gain permission for a group of two friends, i.e. &#8220;Dear NFL, I have a question about your permission.  May I obtain permission to describe the game last night to two friends or maybe three?  Or do I need seperate permission for each individual?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to mention asking permission for different games.  Just think about it.  If I ask for permission to describe just three games to three different friends, that&#8217;s 9 requests that the NFL will need to process.  EACH WEEK!  This year&#8217;s season could be extremely long for the admin people at the NFL (National (dog)Fighting League).</p>
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		<title>By: allfury</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579132</link>
		<dc:creator>allfury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579132</guid>
		<description>omg, do you listen ? How long have you watched football ?

Go away and quit trying to generate traffic to your web site.

The reason why the NFL is successful is because it vehemently defends and protects it's brand and to keep things brief, the "brand" includes the content.

Now what you should do is listen very carefully to that copyright statement [if you watch football, you should probably have it memorized] and you will realize that it's very explicit but you must be an idiot to think that is on a individual level.

Hockey is gay and mindless, basketball is boring and the field is too short. Baseball is supremely boring and a waste of a good day [also way too many games], and lastly SOCCER should be outlawed in this country.

FOOTBALL IS KING.

www.techcrunch.com - please note on this day, that the following site made a quixotic and hubris laden post about how the NFL copyright statement can be interpreted to mean that you, the individual, cannot discuss or rebroadcast the game, provide still photos, videos, etc.

WOW, obviously your IQ is nested right around </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg, do you listen ? How long have you watched football ?</p>
<p>Go away and quit trying to generate traffic to your web site.</p>
<p>The reason why the NFL is successful is because it vehemently defends and protects it&#8217;s brand and to keep things brief, the &#8220;brand&#8221; includes the content.</p>
<p>Now what you should do is listen very carefully to that copyright statement [if you watch football, you should probably have it memorized] and you will realize that it&#8217;s very explicit but you must be an idiot to think that is on a individual level.</p>
<p>Hockey is gay and mindless, basketball is boring and the field is too short. Baseball is supremely boring and a waste of a good day [also way too many games], and lastly SOCCER should be outlawed in this country.</p>
<p>FOOTBALL IS KING.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com</a> - please note on this day, that the following site made a quixotic and hubris laden post about how the NFL copyright statement can be interpreted to mean that you, the individual, cannot discuss or rebroadcast the game, provide still photos, videos, etc.</p>
<p>WOW, obviously your IQ is nested right around</p>
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		<title>By: TroySchneider.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579124</link>
		<dc:creator>TroySchneider.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1579124</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Fair Use Fight: It's the Narrative, Stupid...&lt;/strong&gt;

On ars technica yesterday, Nate Anderson wrote about the Computer &#38; Communications Industry Association's "Defend Fair Use" initiative. 
It's a nice run-down of the effort by Oracle, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Sun, Red Hat, and others to rein in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Fair Use Fight: It&#8217;s the Narrative, Stupid&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>On ars technica yesterday, Nate Anderson wrote about the Computer &amp; Communications Industry Association&#8217;s &#8220;Defend Fair Use&#8221; initiative.<br />
It&#8217;s a nice run-down of the effort by Oracle, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Sun, Red Hat, and others to rein in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: idiotkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578888</link>
		<dc:creator>idiotkiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578888</guid>
		<description>"So would you be so “noble” to let me use your car whenever I want it ?" 
- FreeForm5

That's the most absurd attempt at a parallel I've seen in a while. The point of fair use is more akin to "Since I drive my car in the public streets as do you, you have the right to talk about my car." There is no implication that you, as an individual declaring fair use, can create your own football match using the NFL logo, NFL team names, or their stadiums etc. Only if that were the premise behind free use, would FreeForm5 be marginally correct.

Think before you write bubba.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So would you be so “noble” to let me use your car whenever I want it ?&#8221;<br />
- FreeForm5</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the most absurd attempt at a parallel I&#8217;ve seen in a while. The point of fair use is more akin to &#8220;Since I drive my car in the public streets as do you, you have the right to talk about my car.&#8221; There is no implication that you, as an individual declaring fair use, can create your own football match using the NFL logo, NFL team names, or their stadiums etc. Only if that were the premise behind free use, would FreeForm5 be marginally correct.</p>
<p>Think before you write bubba.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578837</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578837</guid>
		<description>Athenerve

Probably for the same reason you chose to post your thoughts. Ya know, freedom to think and form an opinion. Or is that just for you? if you don't like it, perhaps you should leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Athenerve</p>
<p>Probably for the same reason you chose to post your thoughts. Ya know, freedom to think and form an opinion. Or is that just for you? if you don&#8217;t like it, perhaps you should leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Roselle</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578831</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Roselle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578831</guid>
		<description>I hope the NFL pushes this as far as it can, as hard as it can.

We need to have a goddamn ruling on this for once and for all.

Either we will be able to think about the world around us and talk about it or we won't.

Let's have a goddamn war and find out who the winner is and who the loser is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the NFL pushes this as far as it can, as hard as it can.</p>
<p>We need to have a goddamn ruling on this for once and for all.</p>
<p>Either we will be able to think about the world around us and talk about it or we won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have a goddamn war and find out who the winner is and who the loser is.</p>
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		<title>By: thenerve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578801</link>
		<dc:creator>thenerve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578801</guid>
		<description>I don't get why people feel the need to bash Duncan or any of the people who write on this blog ?  if you don't like what is being said LEAVE ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get why people feel the need to bash Duncan or any of the people who write on this blog ?  if you don&#8217;t like what is being said LEAVE &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578740</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578740</guid>
		<description>I think Duncan thinks everything ever created from someone's intellect is not intellectual property and fair game for open use. Songwriters, artists, publishers, movie makers create a product for profit. If you take their product and use it for anything other than for your personal use, ie: making a profit from their work, you have become a thief. There is a notable difference between intellect and intellectual property, which derives from one's intellect. I don't see a lot of intellect here, nor do I see a property worth stealing. I am amazed at the movement today whereby people think they can just take what they want because they have the tools to do it.  Many works evolve into the public domain , which is he way it should be. I have the right to purchase a song, a book, or a movie. However that only gives me ownerhship of the method of purchase. I may own the physical CD or book and have it in my home, however, I only have fair use of it's contents, not ownership. If one carries this too far, no one can develope pen source software and sell it to anyone. C'mon folks.get a frickin clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Duncan thinks everything ever created from someone&#8217;s intellect is not intellectual property and fair game for open use. Songwriters, artists, publishers, movie makers create a product for profit. If you take their product and use it for anything other than for your personal use, ie: making a profit from their work, you have become a thief. There is a notable difference between intellect and intellectual property, which derives from one&#8217;s intellect. I don&#8217;t see a lot of intellect here, nor do I see a property worth stealing. I am amazed at the movement today whereby people think they can just take what they want because they have the tools to do it.  Many works evolve into the public domain , which is he way it should be. I have the right to purchase a song, a book, or a movie. However that only gives me ownerhship of the method of purchase. I may own the physical CD or book and have it in my home, however, I only have fair use of it&#8217;s contents, not ownership. If one carries this too far, no one can develope pen source software and sell it to anyone. C&#8217;mon folks.get a frickin clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Hennell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578720</link>
		<dc:creator>Hennell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578720</guid>
		<description>Surely the answer is not a petition but to just take them at their value. Actually ring up the NFL every time you want to mention a game, describe a play or mention it to your friends....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the answer is not a petition but to just take them at their value. Actually ring up the NFL every time you want to mention a game, describe a play or mention it to your friends&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mars</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578652</link>
		<dc:creator>Mars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578652</guid>
		<description>I wonder about copyrights...I don't think that it is about being socialist or not...it is about allowing creation to spread and be respected... And copyrights are not all about money...As for fair use, I do agree with John at post number 12, there will be new limitations to Fair Use...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder about copyrights&#8230;I don&#8217;t think that it is about being socialist or not&#8230;it is about allowing creation to spread and be respected&#8230; And copyrights are not all about money&#8230;As for fair use, I do agree with John at post number 12, there will be new limitations to Fair Use&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jackmayhofferr</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578578</link>
		<dc:creator>jackmayhofferr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578578</guid>
		<description>@ John #12 - great analysis 

Duncan - you are obviously not a lawyer.  No where in the NFL's statement does it limit a fan from talking about a game.

Please Please, I am begging you -- stick to writing about Tech Gossip.  That is what Techcrunch does best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John #12 - great analysis </p>
<p>Duncan - you are obviously not a lawyer.  No where in the NFL&#8217;s statement does it limit a fan from talking about a game.</p>
<p>Please Please, I am begging you &#8212; stick to writing about Tech Gossip.  That is what Techcrunch does best</p>
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		<title>By: Yoghurt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578577</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoghurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/29/the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-support-the-fight-for-fair-use/#comment-1578577</guid>
		<description>Being anti-copyright is libertarian, not socialist.  

Socialist would be, like, granting artists monopolies over all copies of information because they couldn't compete in a free market for copies of information. Trivially, each copy of some information is a different physical thing, and different physical property.  But to "help the starving artists" (talk about socialism!), physical property rights are trashed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being anti-copyright is libertarian, not socialist.  </p>
<p>Socialist would be, like, granting artists monopolies over all copies of information because they couldn&#8217;t compete in a free market for copies of information. Trivially, each copy of some information is a different physical thing, and different physical property.  But to &#8220;help the starving artists&#8221; (talk about socialism!), physical property rights are trashed!</p>
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