MyLiveSearch Not As Completely Useless As I Expected

In some cases, Google has been indexing blogs inunder an hour from being updated. with results appearing on the organic SERPs.

Even Digg’s latest submissions are now appearing on the SERPs within an hour.

This sounds horrible to me. I see that it has a unique approach but what are the benefits to the user? I would think at best this would have a very limited audience and is something that I myself have no interest in even trying out let alone suggesting it to someone.

“But MyLiveSearch is attacking the search problem in a new way by pushing all of the work to the user’s computer.”

Actually, no, this is not a new way at all. This idea of exploring a neighborhood around a site of interest by crawling from a user’s computer is very old and was tried by several tool bars (both startups and academic prototypes) in the late 1990s. None of these really took off which might be why you think it is new. Maybe they have a new idea that makes this somehow more attractive now, but I doubt it. Seems a like a flashback to the late 90s.

Spidering a site from the users computer will never work out, in fact, many websites block users that are caught spidering their content since it sucks up significantly more bandwidth on the web server.

Flawed business idea, DOA.

Web Entrepreneur 101

“revolutionary’ and ‘requires IE plugin’ is an oxymoron.

“First, MyLiveSearch is not actually indexing the web. Users must install a browser plugin (Windows/IE only)”

Failure right there, adding that extra step will kill them

wow… dumb.

This would be a great idea if it worked over P2P networks rather than over HTTP. Spidering already-existing search engine results pages seems like an exercise in bandwidth waste, does it not? It seems that it would only take Google a few seconds to deny the MyLiveSearch plugin from accessing their site, and it’s game over.

It works on Firefox too. Although incredibly annoying.

a) It makes you manually restart Firefox to install,
b) The results constantly keep changing, unless I keep Stop, can’t you just stop after say 5 secs and then have a Continue button instead,
c) Refreshing isn’t allowed, even if you stop the engine. You have to manually restart Firefox.

When are they going to stop talking about “Replacing Google”?

Hmm, I gave it another go (my last try was earlier on), and I noticed things that I didn’t notice before. a) You can close the tab and re-login to Mylivesearch to make it work again if you refresh by mistake, it seems it does do my point b), I’ve just never been able to cope with the constant updating long enough.

Oh and, Firefox managed to use 90% of my CPU while searching and practically double its ram usage. Firefox is bad enough with its resource hungry habits.

Has anyone checked out the forum lately… I haven’t been able to load it

Michael, you can search multiple sites, and you can have multiple windows open. I did it the first time I got my hands on it.
If you use a search engine that tabs, you can have Mylivesearch open in multiple tabs searching totally different items.

As for most people giving negative feedback; I understand that sort feedback is healthy and needed to be able to get a product better and better over time; but just remember that a Beta is what it is supposed to be…..a first release of a product that needs to have bugs ironed out and certain things worked on. But let me tell you, this Beta is more polished than a lot of retail release software that has millions of dollars of R&D spent on it, and dozens of people working on it.

So give it a chance, and dont just use it for 5 minutes and then bag it. Use it properly, and once you have used every ounce of what it can do, and cant get any more out of it, and you are still not happy with it, then your comments are appreciated.

ho hum. will never use it i’m sure.

Ho Hum? Is that the best you can do? Its not even worth the post………

Digg went down again, and it wasn’t reported. It was totally offline, for about 20 minutes, and still barely crawling.

Mike you want to put it up on your site?
http://www.miguelcarrasco.net/.....-down.html

Yeah, Google is indexing stuff pretty fast. I found something on HuffPo via Google today, that was only an hour or two old.

Also, using my PC to crawl results? Fuck that noise.

Arrington, would you mind testing this some more, but keeping an eye on your CPU, Memory, and network loads (also the system spces)? I’m really curious about what sort of resources this thing chews through? Or if someone not connected with MyLiveSearch has already done that, does anyone have a link to the results?

Hellion,
I agree with you. Robert Gabriel has invested 8 years of hard work on this software and I think not just Australia but the rest of the World should appreciate what he has accomplished. I believe Robert Gabriel is already a winner in my books and once the new upgrades come up in the next couple of months, Mylivesearch will be one of the best search engines in the market. Well done Rob.

Keep up the great work.

LOL, Typical. Aussie genius’s hard at work, but a decade behind the usability curve. I can see them now” Yeam Mate, She’ll be right, lets put a bloody plug-in on thier browser….sigh how much can a Koala bear….;)
Lets assume Hellion is not a shill for a second. “use it as it supposed to be used” OMG isnt that so 80’s?
I am so glad I left that dam country and its myopic self interested absudr little culture.
Fortunately there are great technologies coming from Oz, just not this, this belongs in the delete bin.

Peter, thanks for your input. I want to clarify something I said earlier. Critcism can be a great thing, if it is used properly. With constructive criticism things can be made better and work more efficiently to give you a better product. I am all for this.

However, people who write crap just for the hell of it, who dont think before they talk are most likely jealous because they didnt think of this themselves. The sheep who just follow and dont have the brain to do anything without being prodded in the arse first.

All I ask is that whoever uses the tool, like me, use it to its fullest capacity and squeeze every bit of juice out of it, and then let Rob know if they like it or not, and let him know what improvements could be made if any.

My apologies if I offend anyone, but common sense would tell you this.

Oh, and if anyone is wondering, yes I do know Rob and how much time and effort he, and and a couple of others have put into this, and to acheive this with minimal backing, I think is a good effort.

Smacktard, thank god we got rid of you from this country, as people like you should be in the delete bin.

You, MATE as you so nicely put it, do not deserve to be called Australian, and wherever you are now, I hope you rot there.

Yo Hellion,

Mylivesearch is going under where it belongs. down under!

obviously no one on this board is impressed. hell in no way am i going to use my PC to crawl for results. nuff said… back to the drawing board.

Web publishers are going to love this … instead of a single periodic crawl by a search engine, every visit will result in a whole new crawl. What is the User Agent so I can ban this stupid waste of bandwidth?

Blah Blah Blah Blah. Dont you people have anything original or smart to say? No imagination!!!!

BS Meter? You need to think carefully before you think of a user name, as it is you who is talking the BS! So you should hook up that metre to ur $#$% LOL.

Hi Michael,

Just a few thoughts, firstly it would seem that you have spent very little time in describing this technology from a un biased approach, It seems that your interest are entirely with your pocket , I should have expected this since you have Google Advertising all over your pages. Your poorly described this technology and spent most of your time talking about negative things and not actually talking about what the tool does and how it does it, I would have expected a much more professional analysis and not a biased and elementary approach. MyLiveSearch does not need this sought of negative feedback that only places people in doubt, The doubt hear is what exactly our your intentions are, and it seems to me that New Threatening Technology does not have a place in this site.

Thanks but no Thanks,

The people will decide what can be done with this tool and not this propaganda approach that I see hear.

Cheers

Rob Gabriel
Founder and Developer of MyLivesearch

I mad my decision. It’s dumb, and not something I want my CPU doing when I’m trying to use a real search engine; Google.

I guess someone paid mike to keep powerset hype alive and screw Aussie mylivesearch press.

Hey, Rob Gabriel.

I think you should write search engine comeback and harm mike’s lovable powerset company. Write undefeated search engine. The only way to win your press is screw powerset innovation & screw Xerox technology. Show what you got…

I think it is not to bad. It has some unique features and works well right from the start.
The CPU usage is at 90% and the RAM goes up to 200MB and more but what I think might be the killer of the site is that it really hits the servers pretty hard every time and if you have a monthly Bandwidth limit you might not want to have MyLiveSearch go to your site every 5 Minutes.
Other than that it is pretty cool and while I am searching I am not doing anything else so who cares about the RAM and CPU usage.

Hi Martin,

That is the sort of input that is needed, thank you very much. We know it may not be perfect, but with your feedback it will be. We know it may not be for everyone, and that is uderstandable as there are 5 billion people on the planet and is never easy to please every one.

But for those that are willing to give it a go, and give fair feedback it is greatly appreciated.

The test of a search engine is the quality of its results. Users don’t care how the results are generated, provided they are relevant. Arrington’s point stands: if the results are good but not great it won’t displace Google, however many small animals were killed in the making of it.

Nor is there any point in people affiliated with the business getting aggressive: either it does shows higher quality results than Google and therefore succeeds, or it doesn’t, and won’t. But asking people to spend significant time testing it regardless, or getting haughty because your energies are not appreciated, is beside the point. The apathy and disinterest here is fairly representative of what you’ll find once you launch; unfortunately nobody owes you a living, no matter how much time you have devoted to writing code.

Take it on the chin and learn from it.

To Hellion and the rest of the Aussie contingent.

DUDE, your service is OVERHYPED. Far from being a google killer this is DOA.

Face the facts… many posters have already given you valuable feedback, people are not going to use their pc to crawl for results.

instead of arguing with posters you need to fix your “threatening” technology.

I’m sure the folks at the googleplex are losing sleep over your search engine.

btw, I would change your name. I’m sure you’ll be getting a cease and desist letter from microsoft (live search) as we speak.

How do you uninstall the “liveplugin” from firefox?

I thought that was the whole idea of a Beta? For people to test it and give feedback?

The only disinterest I see is soley on this web site. And the fact that so may here talk about it, means that it shows anything but disinterest.

It is not meant to displace Google, not in the least. And just for the record, because a company has a lot of money, it does not mean it can’t just as easily lose it! You have to remember the fact that google didn’t have hundreds of millions of dollars when it started either.

As I have said before, people who bag it just for the sake of doing so are just jealous they didnt think of it. And Rob has always said that if it succeed’s he will be happy, if not that is fine too.

And I have heard a few bloggers in the past say that Google or Microsoft may just buy them out to get rid of them. Is that meant to be threatening to us? If they do buy the search tool rights, then who is going to be rich? Not you, the baggers thats for sure.

If everyone in this world was like some of the no hopers on this site who just choose to shoot things down, we would still be living in a cave, in front of a fire, wiping our arses with a fig leaf. I thank god for people like Rob Gabriel, decide to take a chance, and maybe just maybe make a difference.

I think this is an innovative and fresh approach and clearly although in beta has a lot of potential. The idea of doing the spidering on a person’s PC is a vast cost saving and actually makes some use of the 4Ghz CPU under my desk rather than treating it like a dumb client. I had already been thinking along similar lines myself and there is a lot more that can be done with this concept besides returning web pages.

As for those of you who don’t like plug ins, how many of you have the Googlebar, Flash etc.?

Craig (Scotland)

I think it would be best for Google to acquire this, so the plugin can be swapped for Google’s servers indexing the sites that plugin would normally do.

Not even worth a full reply.

Saw the word ”plugin” and hit the back button

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Mike/Duncan/co - what is your moderation policy?

Posts like those from REtard (19) really irk me because they:

1. Add no value to the discussion
2. Don’t belong in this forum
3. Bring down the whole vibe of this community

It’s one thing to bag someone’s idea/technology - that’s fine. But there are millions of other places we can all go to read that cheap kind of crappy posting.

Following on from my previous comment, I’d already developed and implemented in 2005 a live link checker which checks links in real time rather than as viewed at some snapshot in the past (search for “broken link preventor”) so the idea of a search engine working along similar lines isn’t a new concept to me anyway. May be the implementation here might need some tweaking, but the concept is sound.

Does it parse out the quotes feature “”. I did a specific test to just collect “techcrunch mylivesearch” but it took out the quotes and retrieved the same results, this is something of a standard feature for me as far as search is concerned. Can these be implemented?

I’ve used it and am completely unimpressed. These guys have come as far as they have thanks to some jingoistic coverage and a few lucky publicity *cough Techcrunch* breaks. Now it’s time to show me the money, mate!

Oh yeah, the plug-in doesn’t even have an uninstall feature, very futuristic indeed.

king, since you asked… just delete D:\Firefox\plugins\NPLiveSearch.dll

I can’t believe the gall of this Gabriel guy, he laps up any scrap of good publicity thrown his way and when somebody gives an honest critique he has the balls to accuse them of being corrupt & doing it for the money. Shame on you, Mr. Gabriel - and if you take some time off from developing “New Threatening Technology”, please consider joining English-101 so you can learn to spell.

Nosh, BINGO mate, you hit the nail on the head………thats the word I was looking for yesterday, CRITIQUE. You think entries like “cant beleive the gall, or jinoistic coverage, or telling people to learn to spell ( and that’s just in the last 4 posts. Before that I read one that said Rob is a moron if he thinks it is going to compete with google………….

What sort of honest critique is that??

Narrow minded is what I call it. Jealous people, you are so pathetic!!!

Honest critique to me (correct me if I am wrong) is to let people know good and bad points about what they do, in a well mannered fashion. It is the polite way to do business.

Like I said, we cannot please everyone, and I was said from the start it may not be for everyone, and to those people I say don’t use it then……..don’t bother about it. You won’t lose anything by not using it.

Nosh, we cannot all be English Proffessor’s like you.

has everyone forgot that it does search (dynamic generated) sites that the majors cant really see or index properly, approx 500 times bigger than static web, hello!!!

Real time search is great but its not the only thing these guys bring..

Didn’t “grub” do something like this? Users could install a distributed crawling system which would contribute the results to a central service. One of the benefits was/is that everyone can use the compiled results. grub.org has more info. Wikia just bought them and is bring it all up to snuff.

A very smart man once said ” A first rate intelligence is the ability to hold two views and still be able to function” so to say mylivesearch is bad is just narrow minded and dumb. So it may be slower and use Comp usase but it indexs so much more, it can index dynamic pages excellently, its get newer results and if people can afford good computers than its one of the best tools around. MyLiveSeach is truly an innovation and is one of a kind. It will in my opinion, be better than google.

Guy’s what’s going on here. This beta test it seems is only the beginning. I have used the original site which was set up on a Server like just like google and the others. It had all the features the others had except one difference. All the searches where live! On the mylivesearch server, multiple spiders would go out at once crawling the web. The data would be then be stored on the server. Results were shown as they are now and how long ago they were added. The only difference is now that with the plugin all the search results you find act like those spiders feeding it into the mylivesearch data base. In a very short time, with millions of people doing searches, the mylivesearch data base will have mapped the whole internet. Think about it! Not even google, yahoo and microsoft put together will ever achieve this. Sure they are using them as a starting point for the beta test. But come time for the real thing and their own server will be packed full of data. You must remember this search facility can map pages, images, flash etc.. that the others cannot. As soon as a news blog comes out its mapped into the data base. Don’t jump the gun guys, this is only a very tiny part of the beta test and is far from the final release. Hey, if you do not want a plugin for your browser, I am sure mylivesearch will enable their search website again. So you will have a choice….. search from there or your own computer. The end result will be the same. Rich searches with content you are looking for and pages you would not normally find.

After all the hype, I was looking forward this. Results:

1) Apparently no phrase search- BAD.

2) Interface- BAD

3) Results- I didn’t see anything special but the plugin managed to do something no other program has ever been able to do- crash my Macbook at the kernel level. I am running Windows under Parallel but its the only program that ever managed to do that.

I’ll give it a try when the Mac version comes out but so far unimpressed.

Dude, it’s only the beta. The final release will have all the goodies like phrase search, images, news, blogs etc…. My browser crashed too because I am using an older version of Firefox. But hey, that’s what beta tests are for to iron out the bugs! ……and the interface, I am sure yahoo, google and MSN did not start out with their page exactly how it is now. It’s early days yet………

Huh took 8 yrs to develop a browser plugin that crawls the “selected part” of web for ya and displays the results !!
Wow I guess you earn a job with Microsoft (Vista anyone ?)
Dude seriously, whats the point of an ‘intelligent’ spider that can’t effectively index the results ? I’d rather download “Customize Google” plugin for Firefox than this !!