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	<title>Comments on: Facebook Will Use Profiles To Target Ads, Predict Future</title>
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		<title>By: Caddell Insight Group &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facebook, smacked down again, invites customer input</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2638679</link>
		<dc:creator>Caddell Insight Group &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Facebook, smacked down again, invites customer input</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up for a wrong first step. A year and a half ago they stirred up the wrath of their community by proposing an ad-targeting system leveraging its users&#8217; profile data, then backed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Utilising Facebook for Small Retailers</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2588491</link>
		<dc:creator>Utilising Facebook for Small Retailers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Facebook may well be a fad. It may also be causing a stir in terms of privacy at the moment and face a back-lash, but from a small business point of view, creating a growing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Facebook may well be a fad. It may also be causing a stir in terms of privacy at the moment and face a back-lash, but from a small business point of view, creating a growing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook&#8217;s Marketing Magic &#171; Amber Hieb&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2512050</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook&#8217;s Marketing Magic &#171; Amber Hieb&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or &#8220;contextual&#8221; advertising and Facebook has been at it for a while, according to an article in Tech Crunch by Duncan Riley.  From an efficiency and clutter reduction point of view, this can be seen as a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or &#8220;contextual&#8221; advertising and Facebook has been at it for a while, according to an article in Tech Crunch by Duncan Riley.  From an efficiency and clutter reduction point of view, this can be seen as a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Catching up with Facebook. -- Hoover&#8217;s Business Insight Zone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2496339</link>
		<dc:creator>Catching up with Facebook. -- Hoover&#8217;s Business Insight Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch, Duncan Riley writes about how Facebook will / may / should use the vast personal data contained in users&#8217; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Online Marketing is Watching You &#171; ashley.branded</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2492190</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Marketing is Watching You &#171; ashley.branded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/#comment-2492190</guid>
		<description>[...] our online hang outs; They need to understand our likes and dislikes. Well, what better source than ourselves? I bet you didn&#8217;t even know that you were providing retailers with this information, did you? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] our online hang outs; They need to understand our likes and dislikes. Well, what better source than ourselves? I bet you didn&#8217;t even know that you were providing retailers with this information, did you? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Experiments With Ads Targeting People&#8217;s Interests</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2302307</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Experiments With Ads Targeting People&#8217;s Interests</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ability to target members by their own self-proclaimed interests and demographics. Facebook, as expected, has quietly taken a step in that direction with its Facebook Flyers ads (these are sidebar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the ability to target members by their own self-proclaimed interests and demographics. Facebook, as expected, has quietly taken a step in that direction with its Facebook Flyers ads (these are sidebar [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spaces Self Networking Rubbermaid Storage Bins : Storage Knowledge Consortium</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2046494</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaces Self Networking Rubbermaid Storage Bins : Storage Knowledge Consortium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/#comment-2046494</guid>
		<description>[...] TechCrunch: Facebook Will Use Profiles To Target Ads, Predict Future [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Contextual Advertising: Facebook at burcu-arikan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-2039355</link>
		<dc:creator>Contextual Advertising: Facebook at burcu-arikan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/#comment-2039355</guid>
		<description>[...] to a TechCrunch article, the new system will “let marketers target users with ads based on the massive amounts of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to a TechCrunch article, the new system will “let marketers target users with ads based on the massive amounts of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: citypixel.com blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Virtual world biz model - Advertising CPMs</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-1981428</link>
		<dc:creator>citypixel.com blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Virtual world biz model - Advertising CPMs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a round up: Facebook (according to Bear Sterns research, $0.88 blended CPM, but prime CPM up to $10), MySpace ($0.10 - $3.00), Flux ($1.50), Friendster [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a round up: Facebook (according to Bear Sterns research, $0.88 blended CPM, but prime CPM up to $10), MySpace ($0.10 &#8211; $3.00), Flux ($1.50), Friendster [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Virtual world biz model - Advertising CPMs &#171; Executive Summary</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-1981420</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtual world biz model - Advertising CPMs &#171; Executive Summary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a round up: Facebook (according to Bear Sterns research, $0.88 blended CPM, but prime CPM up to $10), MySpace ($0.10 - $3.00), Flux ($1.50), Friendster [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a round up: Facebook (according to Bear Sterns research, $0.88 blended CPM, but prime CPM up to $10), MySpace ($0.10 &#8211; $3.00), Flux ($1.50), Friendster [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Breaking up with Facebook &#171; Self Interest and Sympathy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-1933464</link>
		<dc:creator>Breaking up with Facebook &#171; Self Interest and Sympathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there have been a rash of stories, articles, TV programmes and others about Facebook’s plans for targeted advertising and, more worryingly, its almost unlimited powers of omnipotence when it comes to collection of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there have been a rash of stories, articles, TV programmes and others about Facebook’s plans for targeted advertising and, more worryingly, its almost unlimited powers of omnipotence when it comes to collection of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Experiments With Ads Targeting People’s Interests &#124; K E K U [alpha]</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-1694195</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Experiments With Ads Targeting People’s Interests &#124; K E K U [alpha]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ability to target members by their own self-proclaimed interests and demographics. Facebook, as expected, has quietly taken a step in that direction with its Facebook Flyers ads (these are sidebar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the ability to target members by their own self-proclaimed interests and demographics. Facebook, as expected, has quietly taken a step in that direction with its Facebook Flyers ads (these are sidebar [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Experiments With Ads Targeting People’s Interests &#124; Contagious Solutions</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-1691985</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook Experiments With Ads Targeting People’s Interests &#124; Contagious Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ability to target members by their own self-proclaimed interests and demographics. Facebook, as expected, has quietly taken a step in that direction with its Facebook Flyers ads (these are sidebar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the ability to target members by their own self-proclaimed interests and demographics. Facebook, as expected, has quietly taken a step in that direction with its Facebook Flyers ads (these are sidebar [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comment on Facebook Will Use Profiles To Target Ads, Predict &#8230; &#124; Myspace World</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-2/#comment-1658067</link>
		<dc:creator>Comment on Facebook Will Use Profiles To Target Ads, Predict &#8230; &#124; Myspace World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original post by Seven Steps to Graphing Your Facebook Strategy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: My first take on Joost &#171; Fake Plastic Noodles</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1657239</link>
		<dc:creator>My first take on Joost &#171; Fake Plastic Noodles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] • Joost is really heavy on the advertising. Many sites with streaming capabilities make you sit through a 30-second spot before taking you to the goods. Joost has short commercial breaks just like traditional TV, but takes it a step further by having random logos pop up in the margins while you’re watching a show. They were annoying and incredibly distracting. They also didn’t seem to be related to the content of the show or targeted to me as a user. Advertisers take note: Joost ads need to be modeled more after Facebook’s targeted advertising. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] • Joost is really heavy on the advertising. Many sites with streaming capabilities make you sit through a 30-second spot before taking you to the goods. Joost has short commercial breaks just like traditional TV, but takes it a step further by having random logos pop up in the margins while you’re watching a show. They were annoying and incredibly distracting. They also didn’t seem to be related to the content of the show or targeted to me as a user. Advertisers take note: Joost ads need to be modeled more after Facebook’s targeted advertising. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seven Steps to Graphing Your Facebook Strategy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1657125</link>
		<dc:creator>Seven Steps to Graphing Your Facebook Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a rather formidable competitor: Facebook itself. It&#8217;s no secret that Facebook intends to iterate its advertising offering in a big way, and MySpace recently made headlines for doing the same. It&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a rather formidable competitor: Facebook itself. It&#8217;s no secret that Facebook intends to iterate its advertising offering in a big way, and MySpace recently made headlines for doing the same. It&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: smthngfishy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1573006</link>
		<dc:creator>smthngfishy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey re rustys&#039;s comments...&quot;Behaviorally-targeted ads, while a strong step up from contextually-targeted ads, are nothing new and still several rungs down the ladder from search in terms of performance.&quot; anybody have any good defensible statistical data on the validity of this comment? can you point me to it ? or just send it to me ? use my junk email smthngfishy@yahoo.com  - thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey re rustys&#8217;s comments&#8230;&#8221;Behaviorally-targeted ads, while a strong step up from contextually-targeted ads, are nothing new and still several rungs down the ladder from search in terms of performance.&#8221; anybody have any good defensible statistical data on the validity of this comment? can you point me to it ? or just send it to me ? use my junk email <a href="mailto:smthngfishy@yahoo.com">smthngfishy@yahoo.com</a>  &#8211; thanks</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1573002</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50 cents math seems bad - off by factor of ten $100 = 2M views based onnumbers  not 20M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50 cents math seems bad &#8211; off by factor of ten $100 = 2M views based onnumbers  not 20M</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wren-Hilton</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1572899</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wren-Hilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Targeting advertising based on user profiles is not new.

Pingar has been providing this service to content providers for some time now. Matching online ads to demographic profiles allows advertisers to map their offline and online campaigns. It also allows content providers to provide premium content at no user-pays cost. Monetising premium content by targeting registered user profiles, whilst protecting their personal privacy, makes sense.

This is clearly something that Facebook has recognised. Others will too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Targeting advertising based on user profiles is not new.</p>
<p>Pingar has been providing this service to content providers for some time now. Matching online ads to demographic profiles allows advertisers to map their offline and online campaigns. It also allows content providers to provide premium content at no user-pays cost. Monetising premium content by targeting registered user profiles, whilst protecting their personal privacy, makes sense.</p>
<p>This is clearly something that Facebook has recognised. Others will too.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bachhuber &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I&#8217;ve deactivated my Facebook account</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1572846</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Bachhuber &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I&#8217;ve deactivated my Facebook account</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to TechCrunch, Facebook is &#8220;planning a new advertising system that will target ad delivery based on profile [...]</description>
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		<title>By: amy gibby</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1569810</link>
		<dc:creator>amy gibby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s a slightly diff interpretation of this same idea.  we launched espin.com back in 2002, before it was kosher to go free-form social networking.  so our interpretation of &quot;closed&quot; was that the profile building exercise was all done thru building blocks (radial buttons, drop downs, etc), which meant we had a pretty sophisticated database of info on our users.  everything was tracked.

couldn&#039;t sell the data via permission email as we never had the volume to justify premium cpms.

so we played it another way and created a totally targeted ad model within espin, where teens use their attention as a form of currency to access premium upgrades.  if you&#039;re a 14 yr old boy from peoria, il interested in wii, with a facebook page and into emo music -- that&#039;s going to influence what advertising teasers are shown to you when you hit the premium upgrade machine.  advertisers tell us the demo/profile they want to buy, and those are the only users that get exposed to their teasers.

where we play it a little diff from facebook is that we don&#039;t host the &quot;canvas&quot; page, or the ad unit for that matter.  we simply channel our audience on a cpa basis to other people&#039;s pages (to an ad, to a site, to a facebook canvas page -- it doesn&#039;t matter to us, just as long as the teen chooses it).

we&#039;ve seen facebook&#039;s beta efforts through their survey model.  and it&#039;s pretty cool.  what we do isn&#039;t that far different except that because we&#039;re so much smaller (2MM uniques/month, yes we&#039;re still a fairly closed site), we rally our audience and then ship them off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s a slightly diff interpretation of this same idea.  we launched espin.com back in 2002, before it was kosher to go free-form social networking.  so our interpretation of &#8220;closed&#8221; was that the profile building exercise was all done thru building blocks (radial buttons, drop downs, etc), which meant we had a pretty sophisticated database of info on our users.  everything was tracked.</p>
<p>couldn&#8217;t sell the data via permission email as we never had the volume to justify premium cpms.</p>
<p>so we played it another way and created a totally targeted ad model within espin, where teens use their attention as a form of currency to access premium upgrades.  if you&#8217;re a 14 yr old boy from peoria, il interested in wii, with a facebook page and into emo music &#8212; that&#8217;s going to influence what advertising teasers are shown to you when you hit the premium upgrade machine.  advertisers tell us the demo/profile they want to buy, and those are the only users that get exposed to their teasers.</p>
<p>where we play it a little diff from facebook is that we don&#8217;t host the &#8220;canvas&#8221; page, or the ad unit for that matter.  we simply channel our audience on a cpa basis to other people&#8217;s pages (to an ad, to a site, to a facebook canvas page &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t matter to us, just as long as the teen chooses it).</p>
<p>we&#8217;ve seen facebook&#8217;s beta efforts through their survey model.  and it&#8217;s pretty cool.  what we do isn&#8217;t that far different except that because we&#8217;re so much smaller (2MM uniques/month, yes we&#8217;re still a fairly closed site), we rally our audience and then ship them off.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rafer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@arrington, How did Lookery get hosed? We&#039;re doing fine for now. We expect FB to do exactly what the WSJ reported today and are think we can complement them well. we&#039;ll obviously need to build out specialized services that they don&#039;t care about and we haven&#039;t shown yet, but isn&#039;t that always the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@arrington, How did Lookery get hosed? We&#8217;re doing fine for now. We expect FB to do exactly what the WSJ reported today and are think we can complement them well. we&#8217;ll obviously need to build out specialized services that they don&#8217;t care about and we haven&#8217;t shown yet, but isn&#8217;t that always the case?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1569647</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$10/cpm!!?... Lets be real. Although the possibility lies to heavily target ad&#039;s to users. $10/cpm  is simply unreleastic for a network such as facebook and I&#039;d be hard pressed to find any advertisers who can turn a postive ROI at that rate.

At 1.5 billion page views / day (according to zuckerberg at conference), that would equal $15m/day, equaling about $5 billion revenue per year. That would equate their market cap to be half the size of google. Maybe someday, but certainly not now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$10/cpm!!?&#8230; Lets be real. Although the possibility lies to heavily target ad&#8217;s to users. $10/cpm  is simply unreleastic for a network such as facebook and I&#8217;d be hard pressed to find any advertisers who can turn a postive ROI at that rate.</p>
<p>At 1.5 billion page views / day (according to zuckerberg at conference), that would equal $15m/day, equaling about $5 billion revenue per year. That would equate their market cap to be half the size of google. Maybe someday, but certainly not now.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen J</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/22/facebook-will-use-profiles-to-target-ads-predict-future/comment-page-1/#comment-1569545</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LinkedIn has been doing this for over 2 years already - the difference with them is, they actually have valuable information on people&#039;s profiles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LinkedIn has been doing this for over 2 years already &#8211; the difference with them is, they actually have valuable information on people&#8217;s profiles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RustyS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RustyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Facebook is working on a behavioral-targeting ad platform.  How shocking!  How revolutionary!   I can&#039;t believe no one&#039;s ever thought of this business before!

Wait a minute, is this Facebook or Apple we&#039;re talking about here?  Sorry, I got caught up in the hype.

As an advertiser, I&#039;m amazed at all the unchecked hype Facebook is getting.  Even though it&#039;s really just another site, I sort of understand the attention from a user&#039;s perspective.  I use it myself.  But its financial potential and the hype being thrown about in that regard is laughably out of touch with reality.  The comparisons to Google and Google&#039;s revenue model are particularly ludicrous.  Behaviorally-targeted ads, while a strong step up from contextually-targeted ads, are nothing new and still several rungs down the ladder from search in terms of performance.  And contextual/behavioral models don&#039;t scale nearly as well as search either.  If they did, Yahoo&#039;s revenues would be larger than Google&#039;s.  That&#039;s why all the current valuations and rumored revenue potential are laughably out of touch with reality.  Google already had the strongest platform in the strongest area.  The fact that they were able to roll keyword-targeted ads out into contextually-targeted ads (across a MUCH broader reach than Facebook will be initially looking at) is just gravy.

Microsoft has had a nice, long peek under Facebook&#039;s skirt by being their primary advertising network.  They&#039;ve seen the financial potential.  They have by far the deepest pockets (and a current proclivity to spend it) than all the rumored Facebook suitors.  And with the acquisition of Aquantive, they&#039;re in a better position than anyone to monetize Facebook.  But if the bottom-line value of Facebook really matched the hype, then Microsoft would be making an offer that would make all the previous offers (including the wildly speculative rumor of $6-billion) look like chump change.  But the revenue (and potential for revenue growth) just doesn&#039;t even come remotely close to the hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Facebook is working on a behavioral-targeting ad platform.  How shocking!  How revolutionary!   I can&#8217;t believe no one&#8217;s ever thought of this business before!</p>
<p>Wait a minute, is this Facebook or Apple we&#8217;re talking about here?  Sorry, I got caught up in the hype.</p>
<p>As an advertiser, I&#8217;m amazed at all the unchecked hype Facebook is getting.  Even though it&#8217;s really just another site, I sort of understand the attention from a user&#8217;s perspective.  I use it myself.  But its financial potential and the hype being thrown about in that regard is laughably out of touch with reality.  The comparisons to Google and Google&#8217;s revenue model are particularly ludicrous.  Behaviorally-targeted ads, while a strong step up from contextually-targeted ads, are nothing new and still several rungs down the ladder from search in terms of performance.  And contextual/behavioral models don&#8217;t scale nearly as well as search either.  If they did, Yahoo&#8217;s revenues would be larger than Google&#8217;s.  That&#8217;s why all the current valuations and rumored revenue potential are laughably out of touch with reality.  Google already had the strongest platform in the strongest area.  The fact that they were able to roll keyword-targeted ads out into contextually-targeted ads (across a MUCH broader reach than Facebook will be initially looking at) is just gravy.</p>
<p>Microsoft has had a nice, long peek under Facebook&#8217;s skirt by being their primary advertising network.  They&#8217;ve seen the financial potential.  They have by far the deepest pockets (and a current proclivity to spend it) than all the rumored Facebook suitors.  And with the acquisition of Aquantive, they&#8217;re in a better position than anyone to monetize Facebook.  But if the bottom-line value of Facebook really matched the hype, then Microsoft would be making an offer that would make all the previous offers (including the wildly speculative rumor of $6-billion) look like chump change.  But the revenue (and potential for revenue growth) just doesn&#8217;t even come remotely close to the hype.</p>
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