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		<title>By: www.ubraniaroxy.pl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HiPiHi Opens Its Doors To The Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.ubraniaroxy.pl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HiPiHi Opens Its Doors To The Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its doors to the public with a beta test that includes free features. We first wrote about HiPiHi in August 2007 when the company called for the establishment of virtual world standards and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: HiPiHi Opens Its Doors To The Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>HiPiHi Opens Its Doors To The Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its doors to the public with a beta test that includes free features. We first wrote about HiPiHi in August 2007 when the company called for the establishment of virtual world standards and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch40(20):生活中必不可少的Web2.0网站 &#124; 歪博2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1629696</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch40(20):生活中必不可少的Web2.0网站 &#124; 歪博2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]         如果你在TechCrunch上通过关键字“China”搜索一下，你会发现在过去的一个月中，TechCrunch一共发表了8篇与中国互联网有关的文章。最近的一篇是“HiPiHi公布全球化战略，建立虚拟世界标准”，我也在这里作了介绍。这还真是有些不同寻常。如果你曾经读到过Michael Arrington写的一篇文章“Google与中国还有劣行”，以及他的其他几篇发表在CrunchNotes上的文章，相信你就会理解我的感觉了。我甚至了解几个中国的网站（其中有一个现在被认为中国最具有创新性的Web2.0网站）都曾经试图联系TechCrunch，希望可以介绍他们，但是没有一个得到回复。不过还是得提到下Michael最终还是注意到了TC在中国拥有很多粉丝。         TechCrunch在关注中国互联网吗？如果是，对于中国互联网来说应该是个不错的消息。但是我还是有些怀疑。TechCrunch关注中国的原因不会是因为Google在中国市场加大了力度了吧？可以参看下面搜索“中国”后结果的截屏，一半都是和Google中国有关，而且其中只有一篇是Michael自己写的，有一些也不是第一手的消息（从其他媒体例如Metaversed, Reuters转载的）。请不要误会我，我在这里并不是想批评TechCrunch。TechCrunch绝对是学习互联网市场非常好的渠道和资源。我想问的是：什么时候人们才会真正认为中国互联网值得被关注呢？引自：http://www.mobinode.com/chinese/?p=39 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]         如果你在TechCrunch上通过关键字“China”搜索一下，你会发现在过去的一个月中，TechCrunch一共发表了8篇与中国互联网有关的文章。最近的一篇是“HiPiHi公布全球化战略，建立虚拟世界标准”，我也在这里作了介绍。这还真是有些不同寻常。如果你曾经读到过Michael Arrington写的一篇文章“Google与中国还有劣行”，以及他的其他几篇发表在CrunchNotes上的文章，相信你就会理解我的感觉了。我甚至了解几个中国的网站（其中有一个现在被认为中国最具有创新性的Web2.0网站）都曾经试图联系TechCrunch，希望可以介绍他们，但是没有一个得到回复。不过还是得提到下Michael最终还是注意到了TC在中国拥有很多粉丝。         TechCrunch在关注中国互联网吗？如果是，对于中国互联网来说应该是个不错的消息。但是我还是有些怀疑。TechCrunch关注中国的原因不会是因为Google在中国市场加大了力度了吧？可以参看下面搜索“中国”后结果的截屏，一半都是和Google中国有关，而且其中只有一篇是Michael自己写的，有一些也不是第一手的消息（从其他媒体例如Metaversed, Reuters转载的）。请不要误会我，我在这里并不是想批评TechCrunch。TechCrunch绝对是学习互联网市场非常好的渠道和资源。我想问的是：什么时候人们才会真正认为中国互联网值得被关注呢？引自：http://www.mobinode.com/chinese/?p=39 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: frankc</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1575509</link>
		<dc:creator>frankc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copying seems inevitable, but lets see what HiPiHi has to add.

With support to other languages besides Chinese it could have a big market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copying seems inevitable, but lets see what HiPiHi has to add.</p>
<p>With support to other languages besides Chinese it could have a big market.</p>
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		<title>By: James Seng</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1568385</link>
		<dc:creator>James Seng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at SOP IV. A few things

1. HiPiHi is working with several party, including IBM and Linden Lab as the CEO of HiPiHi claims, on the standardization of 3D environment.

2. Linden also announced their plans to eventually to make their server available. No timeline is available however.

A side note, HiPiHi announce was more about their new investor (from the Japanese NGI group). NGI group owns Mixi, the largest social network in Japan. NGI confirmed they will bring 3D environment to Mixi. The other announcement is about their international strategy, and they confirmed the initial launch would include an multilingual HiPiHi client for Chinese, English and Japanese (at least).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at SOP IV. A few things</p>
<p>1. HiPiHi is working with several party, including IBM and Linden Lab as the CEO of HiPiHi claims, on the standardization of 3D environment.</p>
<p>2. Linden also announced their plans to eventually to make their server available. No timeline is available however.</p>
<p>A side note, HiPiHi announce was more about their new investor (from the Japanese NGI group). NGI group owns Mixi, the largest social network in Japan. NGI confirmed they will bring 3D environment to Mixi. The other announcement is about their international strategy, and they confirmed the initial launch would include an multilingual HiPiHi client for Chinese, English and Japanese (at least).</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch开始关注中国互联网了吗? : 动点博客 MOBINODE</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1568298</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch开始关注中国互联网了吗? : 动点博客 MOBINODE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 如果你在TechCrunch上通过关键字“China”搜索一下，你会发现在过去的一个月中，TechCrunch一共发表了8篇与中国互联网有关的文章。最近的一篇是“HiPiHi公布全球策略，建立虚拟世界标准”，我也在这里作了介绍。这还真是有些不同寻常。如果你曾经读到过Michael Arrington写的一篇文章“Google、中国及恶魔”，以及他的其他几篇发表在CrunchNotes上的文章，相信你就会理解我的感觉了。我甚至了解几个中国的网站（其中有一个现在被认为中国最具有创新性的Web2.0网站）都曾经试图联系TechCrunch，希望可以介绍他们，但是没有一个得到回复。不过还是得提到下Michael最终还是注意到了TC在中国拥有很多粉丝。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 如果你在TechCrunch上通过关键字“China”搜索一下，你会发现在过去的一个月中，TechCrunch一共发表了8篇与中国互联网有关的文章。最近的一篇是“HiPiHi公布全球策略，建立虚拟世界标准”，我也在这里作了介绍。这还真是有些不同寻常。如果你曾经读到过Michael Arrington写的一篇文章“Google、中国及恶魔”，以及他的其他几篇发表在CrunchNotes上的文章，相信你就会理解我的感觉了。我甚至了解几个中国的网站（其中有一个现在被认为中国最具有创新性的Web2.0网站）都曾经试图联系TechCrunch，希望可以介绍他们，但是没有一个得到回复。不过还是得提到下Michael最终还是注意到了TC在中国拥有很多粉丝。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Zhao</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1567376</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Zhao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news, but i am still wondering if they can do anything for 3d worlds standard.  Did u ever actually login inside the HiPiHi World? hope they work hard instead of Crap Ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news, but i am still wondering if they can do anything for 3d worlds standard.  Did u ever actually login inside the HiPiHi World? hope they work hard instead of Crap Ads.</p>
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		<title>By: NexGen Technology Blog » Conduit Labs Closes $5.5 Million Series A Funding</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1567344</link>
		<dc:creator>NexGen Technology Blog » Conduit Labs Closes $5.5 Million Series A Funding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] virtual worlds, which require long downloads. HiPiHi recently tried to help solve this problem by pushing for virtual world interoperability. They also want to make the games more accessible than existing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] virtual worlds, which require long downloads. HiPiHi recently tried to help solve this problem by pushing for virtual world interoperability. They also want to make the games more accessible than existing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1566620</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't this attempt to define a standard for interoperability the first step at becoming the central hub for all virtual worlds and in effect attempting to take control of the market - ie; any virtual world that wants to be worth anything will need to conform to a HiPiHi's standard and connect into this centralised hub, owned by HiPiHi(if they're trying to persue this)

Somehow i think if LindenLab are going to connect to any standardised universe's server in order to promote interoperability, they will be ensuring that LindenLab are running the show and defining the standards ......... do you really think they're about to hand over their market lead to some new comer ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this attempt to define a standard for interoperability the first step at becoming the central hub for all virtual worlds and in effect attempting to take control of the market - ie; any virtual world that wants to be worth anything will need to conform to a HiPiHi&#8217;s standard and connect into this centralised hub, owned by HiPiHi(if they&#8217;re trying to persue this)</p>
<p>Somehow i think if LindenLab are going to connect to any standardised universe&#8217;s server in order to promote interoperability, they will be ensuring that LindenLab are running the show and defining the standards &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; do you really think they&#8217;re about to hand over their market lead to some new comer ?</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Hedges</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1566437</link>
		<dc:creator>Reed Hedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A standard doesn't happen because a bunch of "industry leaders" (who are they?) decide on one.   A standard happens because a bunch of people agree to use something, and that something is sufficiently well defined and has at least one reference implementation and at least one other interoperating implementation.  

A few such standards actually already exist for 3D geometry and animation formats, and also for network protocols.  My guess is that they will be completely overlooked, since these "industry leaders"  (whoever they will end up being) don't own them in any way.

I'm curious if this will actually go anywhere, and we'll hear any actual specifics in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A standard doesn&#8217;t happen because a bunch of &#8220;industry leaders&#8221; (who are they?) decide on one.   A standard happens because a bunch of people agree to use something, and that something is sufficiently well defined and has at least one reference implementation and at least one other interoperating implementation.  </p>
<p>A few such standards actually already exist for 3D geometry and animation formats, and also for network protocols.  My guess is that they will be completely overlooked, since these &#8220;industry leaders&#8221;  (whoever they will end up being) don&#8217;t own them in any way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious if this will actually go anywhere, and we&#8217;ll hear any actual specifics in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: chris sherman</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1566016</link>
		<dc:creator>chris sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open source, interoperability and platform issues will be discussed at the Virtual Worlds Conference in San Jose on Oct. 10-11, 2007.  HiPiHi and all the other major VW platform operators will be in attendence.  http://www.virtualworlds2007.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open source, interoperability and platform issues will be discussed at the Virtual Worlds Conference in San Jose on Oct. 10-11, 2007.  HiPiHi and all the other major VW platform operators will be in attendence.  <a href="http://www.virtualworlds2007.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.virtualworlds2007.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/20/hipihi-seeks-to-standardize-3d-worlds-and-develop-interoperability/#comment-1565977</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open sourced 3D worlds I can understand, but I'm not sure how this interoperability of 3D worlds would work...Perhaps for open ended environments like Second Life, but how would this work in applications where there is a measured purpose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open sourced 3D worlds I can understand, but I&#8217;m not sure how this interoperability of 3D worlds would work&#8230;Perhaps for open ended environments like Second Life, but how would this work in applications where there is a measured purpose?</p>
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