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	<title>Comments on: Three Ways Startups Are Providing VOIP</title>
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		<title>By: Sorting out VoIP - an Online Guide &#124; Answering Service Blog &#124; American Inbound</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-2187362</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorting out VoIP - an Online Guide &#124; Answering Service Blog &#124; American Inbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Techcrunch&#8217;s list of VoIP providers for cell phones.  They have also written up an excellent guide to the VoIP world.   So if you haven&#8217;t heard of ViOP at all, their article is a great place to start.   Share [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Techcrunch&#8217;s list of VoIP providers for cell phones.  They have also written up an excellent guide to the VoIP world.   So if you haven&#8217;t heard of ViOP at all, their article is a great place to start.   Share [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cheap Calls! Truphone Raises £16.5 million In Series B</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-2186130</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheap Calls! Truphone Raises £16.5 million In Series B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that $50+ million being used for? Cheap calls! Like Fring and a slew of others, Truphone allows free calls initiated from between Wifi handsets and/or computers, or cheap [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that $50+ million being used for? Cheap calls! Like Fring and a slew of others, Truphone allows free calls initiated from between Wifi handsets and/or computers, or cheap [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Counter Strike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1586606</link>
		<dc:creator>Counter Strike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Counter Strike...&lt;/strong&gt;

Counter Strike...</description>
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<p>Counter Strike&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1566112</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>~
If you like Jajah, if you use Skype, you'll love www.zoippe.com
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If you like Jajah, if you use Skype, you&#8217;ll love <a href="http://www.zoippe.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zoippe.com</a><br />
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		<title>By: Esae Momid</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1563229</link>
		<dc:creator>Esae Momid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The laptop to ear "is a great remark. I like voip but I move in and out of the office most days so people have to call me or me to them. When out of office, wifi is not always available in many locations.We don't all do business in cities! The Nokia N95 is great when enabled to Wifi but fiddly to use. I downloaded the £3 www.morodo.co.uk from the site.thanks for the tips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The laptop to ear &#8220;is a great remark. I like voip but I move in and out of the office most days so people have to call me or me to them. When out of office, wifi is not always available in many locations.We don&#8217;t all do business in cities! The Nokia N95 is great when enabled to Wifi but fiddly to use. I downloaded the £3 <a href="http://www.morodo.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.morodo.co.uk</a> from the site.thanks for the tips.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1561570</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm using Skype. I bought a Linksys phone that plugs right into my router  - so now I don't have to boot up my computer. I still have a cell phone...But eventually I expect to just have a data plan and run Skype over that - but that's waiting for faster data access from the cell carriers. Traditional telcos are going to need to recognize that they can't continue to charge for phone access separate from data access - rather the two will become one. The good thing is that with this VoIP demand comes a demand for higher speed internet access. Back in the day we all used 56k, then it was 1.5 Mb DSL...Now I'm running 5 Mb FiOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using Skype. I bought a Linksys phone that plugs right into my router  - so now I don&#8217;t have to boot up my computer. I still have a cell phone&#8230;But eventually I expect to just have a data plan and run Skype over that - but that&#8217;s waiting for faster data access from the cell carriers. Traditional telcos are going to need to recognize that they can&#8217;t continue to charge for phone access separate from data access - rather the two will become one. The good thing is that with this VoIP demand comes a demand for higher speed internet access. Back in the day we all used 56k, then it was 1.5 Mb DSL&#8230;Now I&#8217;m running 5 Mb FiOS.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Lasater</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1561066</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Lasater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on ooma (http://www.ooma.com/press.php).  Although I don't know much about them, I do notice that they claim to have more funding than any of the companies on your chart. They've launched an invitation only beta in the last month.

I just heard the Stanford podcast with their founder and CEO, but do not yet know much about the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to hear people&#8217;s thoughts on ooma (http://www.ooma.com/press.php).  Although I don&#8217;t know much about them, I do notice that they claim to have more funding than any of the companies on your chart. They&#8217;ve launched an invitation only beta in the last month.</p>
<p>I just heard the Stanford podcast with their founder and CEO, but do not yet know much about the product.</p>
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		<title>By: Cru Master</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1561010</link>
		<dc:creator>Cru Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let's not forget Yeigo (www.yeigo.com) as a mobile voip app - i'm proudly South African and they doing us proud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s not forget Yeigo (www.yeigo.com) as a mobile voip app - i&#8217;m proudly South African and they doing us proud!</p>
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		<title>By: steven goh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1560549</link>
		<dc:creator>steven goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi all.  

the other way is the shared conference call model (e.g. rebtel, eqo and nimbuzz).  In that model, fundamentally a key is exchanged between user A and user B, and they dial into some DID and a bridge is created.  speaking to a number of consumers, this has a number of issues.  firstly, saying that it's as cheap as a local call isn't that great given that local calls outside of the USA are often timed and quite expensive.  And secondly, there's some education required to get the critical mass of users going for this to be a generally convenient mass market thing.  our company (mig33) has over 6m users (70% of them are unique by phone number and have made a call using our service) and uses the callback model.  this isn't a new thing .. callbacks, missed callbacks, etc have been around since the early 1990s and have been repackaged and marketed differently.  An added dimension to this space is away from the monoline product model versus the broad based community model (e.g. jajah versus mig33).  i don't think they're directly competitive as the strategies are implicitly different (jajah's lighting up address books, whereas we're building a community).

my two bits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi all.  </p>
<p>the other way is the shared conference call model (e.g. rebtel, eqo and nimbuzz).  In that model, fundamentally a key is exchanged between user A and user B, and they dial into some DID and a bridge is created.  speaking to a number of consumers, this has a number of issues.  firstly, saying that it&#8217;s as cheap as a local call isn&#8217;t that great given that local calls outside of the USA are often timed and quite expensive.  And secondly, there&#8217;s some education required to get the critical mass of users going for this to be a generally convenient mass market thing.  our company (mig33) has over 6m users (70% of them are unique by phone number and have made a call using our service) and uses the callback model.  this isn&#8217;t a new thing .. callbacks, missed callbacks, etc have been around since the early 1990s and have been repackaged and marketed differently.  An added dimension to this space is away from the monoline product model versus the broad based community model (e.g. jajah versus mig33).  i don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re directly competitive as the strategies are implicitly different (jajah&#8217;s lighting up address books, whereas we&#8217;re building a community).</p>
<p>my two bits.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Redcliff</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1559694</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Redcliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading the article “3ways Startups are providing VIOP.  You can add another start up too you list.  Morodo has just started business in the UK. I’m trying them out for free under the £3.00 registration offer.  They claim to support 400+ handsets (in java &#38; symbian) with RIM and Windows Mobile coming in next couple of months (according to live support chat).  Download procedure is easy and web site  (www.morodo.co.uk ) is informative.  Checkout support tab, phone manuals.  Their service works where-ever you are and is focused on International minutes.  In the UK, everyone on contract is given a heap of free minutes while on prepaid, International tariffs are very expense.  Their software also has ability to eliminate Mobile Carriers roaming costs. Since it's holiday season here, that's a nice feature.  Morodo’s service looks very compelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading the article “3ways Startups are providing VIOP.  You can add another start up too you list.  Morodo has just started business in the UK. I’m trying them out for free under the £3.00 registration offer.  They claim to support 400+ handsets (in java &amp; symbian) with RIM and Windows Mobile coming in next couple of months (according to live support chat).  Download procedure is easy and web site  (www.morodo.co.uk ) is informative.  Checkout support tab, phone manuals.  Their service works where-ever you are and is focused on International minutes.  In the UK, everyone on contract is given a heap of free minutes while on prepaid, International tariffs are very expense.  Their software also has ability to eliminate Mobile Carriers roaming costs. Since it&#8217;s holiday season here, that&#8217;s a nice feature.  Morodo’s service looks very compelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Elbows</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1559495</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Elbows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the N800 now has skype, but it isnt a mobile phone, wifi only. But I should be able to pair it to a mobile using bluetooth when travelling away from wifi, but Im not sure how well that will work with skype.

Meanwhile the N95 I got from vodafone in the UK, had some of the VOIP functionality disabled, cant remember what it was, maybe SIP. There's ways round it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the N800 now has skype, but it isnt a mobile phone, wifi only. But I should be able to pair it to a mobile using bluetooth when travelling away from wifi, but Im not sure how well that will work with skype.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the N95 I got from vodafone in the UK, had some of the VOIP functionality disabled, cant remember what it was, maybe SIP. There&#8217;s ways round it though.</p>
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		<title>By: karthik</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1559466</link>
		<dc:creator>karthik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice analysis Nick. keep it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice analysis Nick. keep it up</p>
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		<title>By: Aydin Mirzaee</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1559413</link>
		<dc:creator>Aydin Mirzaee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also check our company out here: http://www.bOKnow.com

We provide VoIP calls initiated through SMS.

Aydin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also check our company out here: <a href="http://www.bOKnow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bOKnow.com</a></p>
<p>We provide VoIP calls initiated through SMS.</p>
<p>Aydin.</p>
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		<title>By: share.websitemagazine.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1558942</link>
		<dc:creator>share.websitemagazine.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Three Ways Startups Are Providing VOIP...&lt;/strong&gt;

While the consumer “landline replacement” VOIP battles continue to wage (the cable companies now control over 70% of that market, and Vonage is still fighting), a number of nimble software-only startups are experimenting with their own services....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Three Ways Startups Are Providing VOIP&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>While the consumer “landline replacement” VOIP battles continue to wage (the cable companies now control over 70% of that market, and Vonage is still fighting), a number of nimble software-only startups are experimenting with their own services&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TruLover</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1558935</link>
		<dc:creator>TruLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he guys I am an advocate of these services. personally I have been using truphone since several months; I basically first tried it 8 months ago. Since then they have added even SMS over truphone. I love the service and have to admit that I make 90% of my mobile calls now via truphone. The VOICE quality is VERY good and often better than 3G or GSM as my WiFi is closer than the next cellular antenna. When I travel I exclusively use truphone and forward all my SIM based calls to the truphone number. Just a way to get rid of the hassle of the huge ROAMING Fees I used to pay. In short I cannot live without the service anymore.... (I have it currently working on an Nokia E65, E61i and my wife uses it on an N95. My sister has an older model E60 and my parents use equaly successful an E60). I even got my builders (Polish) on the service who love it! My cousins love it!....

currently in France on holiday (in my third week); I yet have to make a call on a traditional GSM / 3G network... I have been purely on WiFi with my Nokia's and reachable via the truphone mobile number they give out!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he guys I am an advocate of these services. personally I have been using truphone since several months; I basically first tried it 8 months ago. Since then they have added even SMS over truphone. I love the service and have to admit that I make 90% of my mobile calls now via truphone. The VOICE quality is VERY good and often better than 3G or GSM as my WiFi is closer than the next cellular antenna. When I travel I exclusively use truphone and forward all my SIM based calls to the truphone number. Just a way to get rid of the hassle of the huge ROAMING Fees I used to pay. In short I cannot live without the service anymore&#8230;. (I have it currently working on an Nokia E65, E61i and my wife uses it on an N95. My sister has an older model E60 and my parents use equaly successful an E60). I even got my builders (Polish) on the service who love it! My cousins love it!&#8230;.</p>
<p>currently in France on holiday (in my third week); I yet have to make a call on a traditional GSM / 3G network&#8230; I have been purely on WiFi with my Nokia&#8217;s and reachable via the truphone mobile number they give out!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Motiwala</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1558691</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf Motiwala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is worth to mention Skype on Windows Mobile. One of the reason I moved to Wifi based phone was to able to make Skype call from phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worth to mention Skype on Windows Mobile. One of the reason I moved to Wifi based phone was to able to make Skype call from phone.</p>
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		<title>By: notpeter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1558436</link>
		<dc:creator>notpeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something to add to the "I like WiFi and Saving Money" section...You mention the Nokia n800, but really don't expand on the "Nokia’s WiFi phones may be for you."  The N80 has a Project Gizmo client and any Nokia E-Series phone (or n80 or n95) is capable of real SIP telephony.  You can use this with a DIY Astericks setup or any number of SIP providers, but Truphone has a nice wizard that makes it dead simple.  Also they are offering free calls until the end of the year.
http://www.truphone.com/

I have no connection to the TruPhone other being a user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something to add to the &#8220;I like WiFi and Saving Money&#8221; section&#8230;You mention the Nokia n800, but really don&#8217;t expand on the &#8220;Nokia’s WiFi phones may be for you.&#8221;  The N80 has a Project Gizmo client and any Nokia E-Series phone (or n80 or n95) is capable of real SIP telephony.  You can use this with a DIY Astericks setup or any number of SIP providers, but Truphone has a nice wizard that makes it dead simple.  Also they are offering free calls until the end of the year.<br />
<a href="http://www.truphone.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truphone.com/</a></p>
<p>I have no connection to the TruPhone other being a user.</p>
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		<title>By: BeingParents</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/15/three-ways-startups-are-harnessing-voip/#comment-1558304</link>
		<dc:creator>BeingParents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consumers like when companies compete because we benefits($$$).
More competition =more saving=more happy customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consumers like when companies compete because we benefits($$$).<br />
More competition =more saving=more happy customers.</p>
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