Comments on: PubSub: They’re Baaaaack http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/ Startup and Technology News Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:23:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Use RosterBot To Manage Your Kids’ Little League Team http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-2000010 Use RosterBot To Manage Your Kids’ Little League Team Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:22:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-2000010 [...] a spreadsheet but from the need to solve a problem. In this case, Canadian Ian Bell (founder of the new and improved PubSub) came up with the idea when he got tired of reading through email strings about upcoming games for [...] [...] a spreadsheet but from the need to solve a problem. In this case, Canadian Ian Bell (founder of the new and improved PubSub) came up with the idea when he got tired of reading through email strings about upcoming games for [...]

]]> By: kael http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1572666 kael Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:49:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1572666 This is a very great news ! I hope they'll develop an XMPP PubSub (J2ME & S60) mobile client. Go PubSub ! :) This is a very great news !

I hope they’ll develop an XMPP PubSub (J2ME & S60) mobile client.

Go PubSub ! :)

]]> By: SEOish » » PubSub and Google. Gadget to Gadget Communication announced by Google http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1571695 SEOish » » PubSub and Google. Gadget to Gadget Communication announced by Google Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:43:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1571695 [...] TechCrunch only recently mentioned PubSub as a “Google internal project” in an article about the other PubSub… Interesting, [...] [...] TechCrunch only recently mentioned PubSub as a “Google internal project” in an article about the other PubSub… Interesting, [...]

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1561586 David Mackey Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:20:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1561586 A consumer Yahoo Pipes would be nice. A consumer Yahoo Pipes would be nice.

]]> By: Chuck Shih http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557434 Chuck Shih Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:32:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557434 What is really ironic about this thread is that the TechCrunch sponsor iJ.am, (look to the right of this piece at the "Get Your TechCrunch Vortex now), does what PubSub "did" but in a more personal, accurate, and exhaustive service offering than PubSub ever did. Its available currently (and works with mobile too) and in a much friendlier form factor. Check out the iJ.am service, you can't miss it, look to the right and up, and you'll wonder why PubSub ever mattered. What is really ironic about this thread is that the TechCrunch sponsor iJ.am, (look to the right of this piece at the “Get Your TechCrunch Vortex now), does what PubSub “did” but in a more personal, accurate, and exhaustive service offering than PubSub ever did. Its available currently (and works with mobile too) and in a much friendlier form factor. Check out the iJ.am service, you can’t miss it, look to the right and up, and you’ll wonder why PubSub ever mattered.

]]> By: Bob Wyman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557376 Bob Wyman Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:50:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557376 I am not working on a project called "PubSub" nor one that has "PubSub" anywhere in its name. Others here may have projects with pubsub in their name, but not me. bob wyman I am not working on a project called “PubSub” nor one that has “PubSub” anywhere in its name. Others here may have projects with pubsub in their name, but not me.

bob wyman

]]> By: Eugene Y. Jen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557144 Eugene Y. Jen Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:11:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557144 Hi #8, I doubt you were an ex-pubsub employee, because you forgot the airport delay and earthquake notification can be received via email and xmpp. I monitored the PubSub internal system via XMPP for its latency, which I implemented it. And PubSub had a Firefox extension and an IE sidebar to see notifications done by Duncan Werner and Malcolm Pollack, respectively. PubSub did not do mobile, which is a flop then in my own opinion. I remembered one reason, if Bob Wyman read it and liked to correct my misquote, then for not doing mobile is before we implemented a way to reduce duplicate and unnecessary messages, we should not tap onto sms or other network to make telcom guys upset. Surprised, it is the same excuse as Steve Jobs for Apple's iPhone. But I think the infrastructure of mobile data message is better than 2004/2005, so PubSub v2 may work this time. Hi #8,

I doubt you were an ex-pubsub employee, because you forgot the airport delay and earthquake notification can be received via email and xmpp. I monitored the PubSub internal system via XMPP for its latency, which I implemented it. And PubSub had a Firefox extension and an IE sidebar to see notifications done by Duncan Werner and Malcolm Pollack, respectively. PubSub did not do mobile, which is a flop then in my own opinion. I remembered one reason, if Bob Wyman read it and liked to correct my misquote, then for not doing mobile is before we implemented a way to reduce duplicate and unnecessary messages, we should not tap onto sms or other network to make telcom guys upset. Surprised, it is the same excuse as Steve Jobs for Apple’s iPhone. But I think the infrastructure of mobile data message is better than 2004/2005, so PubSub v2 may work this time.

]]> By: xpherion http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557037 xpherion Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:53:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1557037 #8 excellent comment. I hope this time around PubSub will make it. #8 excellent comment. I hope this time around PubSub will make it.

]]> By: Former Pubsub Employee http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556645 Former Pubsub Employee Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:58:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556645 My advice about PubSub: Find a product that consumers can actually use. During my time at PubSub I constantly struggled to find uses for the product myself. No one there could really explain to me what the real benefit of the service was. Honestly I didn't ask a lot of questions because I needed the paycheck (which eventually disappeared anyway). I think the strength of PubSub, as it was explained to me, was "up to the minute information". But the more I thought about it, the less I could find uses for it. They had RSS based information about earthquakes and air travel delays. But you couldn't access the site from a mobile so the air traffic delays didn't do me a ton of good unless I was sitting there refreshing the page before I left for the airport. I still have no idea why you would need up to the second information about earthquakes unless you're doing some kind of geological research. It seemed as if everyone there was committed to a technology or a concept with no clear idea how the average person would use it. I hope, Ian, that in this latest incarnation you have a clear plan to deliver a useful and relevant product (and not just a facebook app). My advice about PubSub: Find a product that consumers can actually use. During my time at PubSub I constantly struggled to find uses for the product myself. No one there could really explain to me what the real benefit of the service was. Honestly I didn’t ask a lot of questions because I needed the paycheck (which eventually disappeared anyway).

I think the strength of PubSub, as it was explained to me, was “up to the minute information”. But the more I thought about it, the less I could find uses for it. They had RSS based information about earthquakes and air travel delays. But you couldn’t access the site from a mobile so the air traffic delays didn’t do me a ton of good unless I was sitting there refreshing the page before I left for the airport. I still have no idea why you would need up to the second information about earthquakes unless you’re doing some kind of geological research.

It seemed as if everyone there was committed to a technology or a concept with no clear idea how the average person would use it. I hope, Ian, that in this latest incarnation you have a clear plan to deliver a useful and relevant product (and not just a facebook app).

]]> By: Ian Andrew Bell http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556622 Ian Andrew Bell Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:38:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556622 I mean no disrespect to Michael, as this is a well-researched piece written in a very short time, but it's a bit of a misquote .. I had said that the cachet and notoriety of PubSub made for great PR, made it easy to open doors. The bitterness between Bob & Salim, Bob & others, is water under the bridge. As for the band of angel investors who by most accounts I've heard blocked any future for the company while expecting other investors to continue to buck up -- what did they expect would happen? There's great technology and some good ideas, but PubSub never figured out what business they're in. We have the advantage of hindsight, some vision around consumer marketing, and the talent to execute well. So I'll take odds on that dead pool. =) I mean no disrespect to Michael, as this is a well-researched piece written in a very short time, but it’s a bit of a misquote .. I had said that the cachet and notoriety of PubSub made for great PR, made it easy to open doors.

The bitterness between Bob & Salim, Bob & others, is water under the bridge. As for the band of angel investors who by most accounts I’ve heard blocked any future for the company while expecting other investors to continue to buck up — what did they expect would happen?

There’s great technology and some good ideas, but PubSub never figured out what business they’re in. We have the advantage of hindsight, some vision around consumer marketing, and the talent to execute well.

So I’ll take odds on that dead pool. =)

]]> By: chall http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556605 chall Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:25:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556605 It would seem to me just by reading the above that there is so much drama going on and how that can be good PR is beyond me. It would seem to me just by reading the above that there is so much drama going on and how that can be good PR is beyond me.

]]> By: unimpressed http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556523 unimpressed Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:11:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556523 just let it die already and move on.... just let it die already and move on….

]]> By: scott brooks http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556520 scott brooks Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:05:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556520 This is an interesting study in the do's and don't s of blogging. It was a savage exchange between the two that took a bang on idea and I had thought killed it. This still has entertainment value left ...... it is like a volcano ....it could erupt....or it might not ...... cheers scott This is an interesting study in the do’s and don’t s of blogging. It was a savage exchange between the two that took a bang on idea and I had thought killed it. This still has entertainment value left …… it is like a volcano ….it could erupt….or it might not …… cheers scott

]]> By: Andt Arnott http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556399 Andt Arnott Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:19:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556399 Isn't that what Google Alerts are for? Isn’t that what Google Alerts are for?

]]> By: Textbook Case http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556364 Textbook Case Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:49:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556364 Well, I guess if what Truemors got can be considered good PR, so can this. Zany world. Well, I guess if what Truemors got can be considered good PR, so can this. Zany world.

]]> By: Anatoly http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556346 Anatoly Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:33:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/14/pubsub-round-two/#comment-1556346 Here's my future search term: pubsub + deadpool Here’s my future search term: pubsub + deadpool

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