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	<title>Comments on: Strayform Tries New Indie Music Model</title>
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		<title>By: Artists Funded by Fans at Strayform.com - InsidePunk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1696895</link>
		<dc:creator>Artists Funded by Fans at Strayform.com - InsidePunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] camera. That got things started, but if I wasn&#8217;t able to read the reviews at KillerStartups, TechCrunch, CNET, and Fox News, I probably would have been [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] camera. That got things started, but if I wasn&#8217;t able to read the reviews at KillerStartups, TechCrunch, CNET, and Fox News, I probably would have been [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shot Or Not Chairman: Rich Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1562124</link>
		<dc:creator>Shot Or Not Chairman: Rich Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all in a name...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all in a name&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shot Or Not Chairman: Rich Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1562121</link>
		<dc:creator>Shot Or Not Chairman: Rich Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys I might know of another site much like those mentioned only a little sexier perhaps! {Watch out here we come!}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys I might know of another site much like those mentioned only a little sexier perhaps! {Watch out here we come!}</p>
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		<title>By: Brandt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555910</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you TechCrunch for the coverage, but the model is a little different than described.  

The system is not one for donations.  Its like you and some friends pitching together to buy a $10 CD.  Each person may put in a different amount, some may put in none at all, but if the $10 is reached the CD can be purchased.  

Since the creator has been paid up front, piracy is no longer an issue.  So we allow it to be distributed openly under a Creative Commons license, maximizing artist name recognition and minimizing distribution costs. 

Additionally, since payments are made at the time of creation consumers have a chance to be a part of the process; watch the work grow, influence its design.  

This proposal is a good example:  http://www.strayform.com/Proposal/media.html?id=10.  You can see progress until completion and you can see the final product was dramatically influenced by the pledger (in this case me).

Also the system is not strictly for music.  Any digital creator can get involved, music, movies, paintings, texts, games, software.  Eliminate DRM and the model can work across the board.  

I am always being told that the front page is ugly; I am a big believer in substance over style.  But if Michael Arrington says its so I guess I better do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you TechCrunch for the coverage, but the model is a little different than described.  </p>
<p>The system is not one for donations.  Its like you and some friends pitching together to buy a $10 CD.  Each person may put in a different amount, some may put in none at all, but if the $10 is reached the CD can be purchased.  </p>
<p>Since the creator has been paid up front, piracy is no longer an issue.  So we allow it to be distributed openly under a Creative Commons license, maximizing artist name recognition and minimizing distribution costs. </p>
<p>Additionally, since payments are made at the time of creation consumers have a chance to be a part of the process; watch the work grow, influence its design.  </p>
<p>This proposal is a good example:  <a href="http://www.strayform.com/Proposal/media.html?id=10" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.strayform.com/Proposal/media.html?id=10'>http://www.stra...edia.html?id=10</a>.  You can see progress until completion and you can see the final product was dramatically influenced by the pledger (in this case me).</p>
<p>Also the system is not strictly for music.  Any digital creator can get involved, music, movies, paintings, texts, games, software.  Eliminate DRM and the model can work across the board.  </p>
<p>I am always being told that the front page is ugly; I am a big believer in substance over style.  But if Michael Arrington says its so I guess I better do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: David8</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555815</link>
		<dc:creator>David8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ths article in your headline should be &quot;an&quot; and not &quot;a.&quot; In other words: Strayform Tries AN Indie New Music Model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ths article in your headline should be &#8220;an&#8221; and not &#8220;a.&#8221; In other words: Strayform Tries AN Indie New Music Model.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555753</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Joe, I noticed that the mistake was Michael&#039;s, not yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Joe, I noticed that the mistake was Michael&#8217;s, not yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555752</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe T., Sellaband *is* the label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe T., Sellaband *is* the label.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555739</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can Sellaband guarantee artists a contract with a label just by raising $50K in donations?   Do they have a deal with a label somewhere whereby a contract is guaranteed to any band that can raise $50K, sight unseen?   Or, in essence, are they paying off the labels? 

If so, this is not payola, but you could call it a kind of &quot;pre-payola&quot;.   Instead of paying DJs to play certain bands, are they paying labels to sign them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can Sellaband guarantee artists a contract with a label just by raising $50K in donations?   Do they have a deal with a label somewhere whereby a contract is guaranteed to any band that can raise $50K, sight unseen?   Or, in essence, are they paying off the labels? </p>
<p>If so, this is not payola, but you could call it a kind of &#8220;pre-payola&#8221;.   Instead of paying DJs to play certain bands, are they paying labels to sign them?</p>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555372</link>
		<dc:creator>troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this sites are just popping up, just like http://www.nomajors.com which opened its doors (very) silently a few months ago (i heard about it through some friends).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this sites are just popping up, just like <a href="http://www.nomajors.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.nomajors.com'>http://www.nomajors.com</a> which opened its doors (very) silently a few months ago (i heard about it through some friends).</p>
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		<title>By: Browse</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555362</link>
		<dc:creator>Browse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did this appear below the diettv one?  Some quirky time glitch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did this appear below the diettv one?  Some quirky time glitch?</p>
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		<title>By: Ally macbeal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555312</link>
		<dc:creator>Ally macbeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when your done destroying this sitend these people the somethnig thye problaby everything they got into, then we will site down with you and your people for coffee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when your done destroying this sitend these people the somethnig thye problaby everything they got into, then we will site down with you and your people for coffee</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Huen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555275</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Huen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also love a market driven model that let the market settles the ultimate value of something.  There are some similarities to these models and my own, and I have briefly blog about it a few months ago. 

http://founderscafe.com/2007/03/30/element-of-similarities/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also love a market driven model that let the market settles the ultimate value of something.  There are some similarities to these models and my own, and I have briefly blog about it a few months ago. </p>
<p><a href="http://founderscafe.com/2007/03/30/element-of-similarities/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://founderscafe.com/2007/03/30/element-of-similarities/'>http://founders...f-similarities/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Colin Klinkert</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555202</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Klinkert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I did it :D

Registered these two domains at $70 a pop:

MASHUPS.FM

This one is for songs that mix 2 or more songs together (not sure legal implications)

NEWTALENT.FM

This one is for New Bands, targeted at trend setters who want to hear new music first and vote on what is hot and what is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I did it <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Registered these two domains at $70 a pop:</p>
<p>MASHUPS.FM</p>
<p>This one is for songs that mix 2 or more songs together (not sure legal implications)</p>
<p>NEWTALENT.FM</p>
<p>This one is for New Bands, targeted at trend setters who want to hear new music first and vote on what is hot and what is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555190</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t you guys afford a copy editor by now? I see more mistakes on TechCrunch than almost any other blog I read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t you guys afford a copy editor by now? I see more mistakes on TechCrunch than almost any other blog I read.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Klinkert</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/strayform-tries-a-indie-new-music-model/comment-page-1/#comment-1555180</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Klinkert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Really Like Sites like this and this concept. I think I might register a good domain name and wait until I have the time and finances to set something along these lines up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Really Like Sites like this and this concept. I think I might register a good domain name and wait until I have the time and finances to set something along these lines up!</p>
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