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	<title>Comments on: 37Signals Drives Another Company To The DeadPool</title>
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		<title>By: 37Signals vs TechCrunch : A Ridiculous debate!!!!! &#171; Sridhar: Web Unplugged!!!!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2834992</link>
		<dc:creator>37Signals vs TechCrunch : A Ridiculous debate!!!!! &#171; Sridhar: Web Unplugged!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stuff, Techie, Web 2.0 &#124;   Michael Arrington of TechCrunch has gone crazy to post such an article attacking 37signals, which has led to heavy debate over [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The conundrum of &#8216;FREE!&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2626581</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; The conundrum of &#8216;FREE!&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] victims of the vicious world of the Web - land of the free. Those who dare to charge a fee are derided and castigated at every turn - until they either become so successful as to render reproach news-unworthy, or they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] victims of the vicious world of the Web &#8211; land of the free. Those who dare to charge a fee are derided and castigated at every turn &#8211; until they either become so successful as to render reproach news-unworthy, or they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: petter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2592085</link>
		<dc:creator>petter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i check and read this article then a strong thing appear in mind and i got some better.....well done i like this stuff</description>
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		<title>By: Ad-based versus direct monetization: Which one is better for you? &#124; Futuristic Play by @Andrew_Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2522030</link>
		<dc:creator>Ad-based versus direct monetization: Which one is better for you? &#124; Futuristic Play by @Andrew_Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More recession talk = More interest in direct monetization There&#8217;s always discussion about the weaknesses of ad-based revenue models for consumer internet, and with recession chatter increasing every day, many companies are turning to freemium based models. Silicon Alley Insider recently wrote about this in an article called Revenue Crisis: Here Come The Pro Accounts. And of course, there is constantly discussion around the example of 37 Signals, who are notable critics of business models that give away product for free, described by the the Techcrunch article 37 Signals Drives Another Company To The Deadpool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] More recession talk = More interest in direct monetization There&#8217;s always discussion about the weaknesses of ad-based revenue models for consumer internet, and with recession chatter increasing every day, many companies are turning to freemium based models. Silicon Alley Insider recently wrote about this in an article called Revenue Crisis: Here Come The Pro Accounts. And of course, there is constantly discussion around the example of 37 Signals, who are notable critics of business models that give away product for free, described by the the Techcrunch article 37 Signals Drives Another Company To The Deadpool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Heinemeier Hansson @ StartupSchool08 &#171; Tech IT Easy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2429510</link>
		<dc:creator>David Heinemeier Hansson @ StartupSchool08 &#171; Tech IT Easy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On 37Signals Arrogance (at the beginning) We initially thought we would call this presentation The Secret to Making. But i revised that because at 37Signals we&#8217;ve been accused how being arrogant. To preempt that we call it A secret to making money online. (and at the end) And If it does not work, we have an awesome news : blame it on us and save your ego like that : this is a full proof plan, you get always Techcrunch to write that 37Signals drove you to the deadpool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On 37Signals Arrogance (at the beginning) We initially thought we would call this presentation The Secret to Making. But i revised that because at 37Signals we&#8217;ve been accused how being arrogant. To preempt that we call it A secret to making money online. (and at the end) And If it does not work, we have an awesome news : blame it on us and save your ego like that : this is a full proof plan, you get always Techcrunch to write that 37Signals drove you to the deadpool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Heinemeier Hansson @ Startup School 08 &#171; Heavy Mental</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2429499</link>
		<dc:creator>David Heinemeier Hansson @ Startup School 08 &#171; Heavy Mental</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] us and save your ego like that : this is a full proof plan, you get always Techcrunch to write that 37Signals drove you to the deadpool. Irreverent, arrogant, talented and full of common sense. I want to marry this guy.     Posted by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] us and save your ego like that : this is a full proof plan, you get always Techcrunch to write that 37Signals drove you to the deadpool. Irreverent, arrogant, talented and full of common sense. I want to marry this guy.     Posted by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Dorado 0.9.2 (Group Chat Edition) - almost effortless</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2272211</link>
		<dc:creator>El Dorado 0.9.2 (Group Chat Edition) - almost effortless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 03:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] follow along with all of the activity in El Dorado on the commit log at github. You see, being the lemming that I am, I&#039;ve followed Rails to github and Lighthouse already. I haven&#039;t had time to settle into [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] follow along with all of the activity in El Dorado on the commit log at github. You see, being the lemming that I am, I&#8217;ve followed Rails to github and Lighthouse already. I haven&#8217;t had time to settle into [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Packed House At Y Combinator Startup School</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-2201796</link>
		<dc:creator>Packed House At Y Combinator Startup School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] model that stands in stark contrast to the free services that seem to define Web 2.0. This model hasn&#8217;t worked for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] model that stands in stark contrast to the free services that seem to define Web 2.0. This model hasn&#8217;t worked for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1604848</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, who wants to help me create a suite of products superior to 37S&#039;s and make them FREE, anyone up for it?  I guess it will take about a week or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, who wants to help me create a suite of products superior to 37S&#8217;s and make them FREE, anyone up for it?  I guess it will take about a week or so.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1562332</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your are such an egomaniac Mike.  It does not take long searching the Web to find several folks that feel the same way about you.  I would not be surprised if you drove a Hummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your are such an egomaniac Mike.  It does not take long searching the Web to find several folks that feel the same way about you.  I would not be surprised if you drove a Hummer.</p>
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		<title>By: TechDumpster &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Paid is better than Free, Michael Arrington needs a Homo Sapien Brain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1561673</link>
		<dc:creator>TechDumpster &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Paid is better than Free, Michael Arrington needs a Homo Sapien Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his recent post, Arrington claims that it&#8217;s better to provide a free service than to charge for it. I wonder what would happen to Microsoft&#8217;s $14 billion in Net Profit if they went free. I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] his recent post, Arrington claims that it&#8217;s better to provide a free service than to charge for it. I wonder what would happen to Microsoft&#8217;s $14 billion in Net Profit if they went free. I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BlogReader</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1558428</link>
		<dc:creator>BlogReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[ Michael : But you are not going to change the way I run this site. I write what I believe is true and I will continue to do so. ]

Wow I can almost hear the band playing in the background with fireworks exploding.  Mike will not be intimidated!!1!

One thing this post has been good for is that the strawman (37S is the suxors) has come full circle with Michael now saying the people &quot;attacking&quot; him are trying to change what TC is.  Almost as entertaining as The Hills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[ Michael : But you are not going to change the way I run this site. I write what I believe is true and I will continue to do so. ]</p>
<p>Wow I can almost hear the band playing in the background with fireworks exploding.  Mike will not be intimidated!!1!</p>
<p>One thing this post has been good for is that the strawman (37S is the suxors) has come full circle with Michael now saying the people &#8220;attacking&#8221; him are trying to change what TC is.  Almost as entertaining as The Hills.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557891</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this post and comments i feel like i&#039;m in a sandbox filled with babies.  This type of crap makes blogging seem really lame, immature and pointless to those of us who do not consider ourselves to be &#039;bloggers&#039;.

If you people need attention so bad, get a dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this post and comments i feel like i&#8217;m in a sandbox filled with babies.  This type of crap makes blogging seem really lame, immature and pointless to those of us who do not consider ourselves to be &#8216;bloggers&#8217;.</p>
<p>If you people need attention so bad, get a dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Stickis and BlogRovR: the conversation is everywhere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are we seeing the end of ultimate geek power?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557513</link>
		<dc:creator>Stickis and BlogRovR: the conversation is everywhere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are we seeing the end of ultimate geek power?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cover his operating costs for a year from the fees of a single talk). So he built and runs the site pretty much for free. It obviously stands on the shoulders or many giants, the top of the stack being Wordpress and a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cover his operating costs for a year from the fees of a single talk). So he built and runs the site pretty much for free. It obviously stands on the shoulders or many giants, the top of the stack being Wordpress and a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557512</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, look. At this point this post is on the second or third page of the site. The only people adding comments are those with some sort of overall issue with the post and/or me. The fact that you are saying things like you want TechCrunch dead shows that even further than your ad hominem attacks. So you have zero credibility. 

Like I said, I think this issue is important and needs to be discussed. If you think it&#039;s important, too, get into the discussion in a real, credible way and write a blog post saying your side of things. 

It&#039;s absolutely pointless to try to bully me into submitting to the 37S cult. I believe that cult is dangerous for new startups to fall into and there needs to be a counter viewpoint out there for them to consider.

You guys can keep ranting all you like but I&#039;m done here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, look. At this point this post is on the second or third page of the site. The only people adding comments are those with some sort of overall issue with the post and/or me. The fact that you are saying things like you want TechCrunch dead shows that even further than your ad hominem attacks. So you have zero credibility. </p>
<p>Like I said, I think this issue is important and needs to be discussed. If you think it&#8217;s important, too, get into the discussion in a real, credible way and write a blog post saying your side of things. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely pointless to try to bully me into submitting to the 37S cult. I believe that cult is dangerous for new startups to fall into and there needs to be a counter viewpoint out there for them to consider.</p>
<p>You guys can keep ranting all you like but I&#8217;m done here.</p>
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		<title>By: mariner</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557294</link>
		<dc:creator>mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIke,

Like you really love the comments attacking you....yeah right.  You clearly have a monster-sized ego and think you can intimidate folks from taking shots at you and your company’s content.  It seems to me like you operate using the same strategies of George Bush to crush all dissenting opinions.

Similar to your other major $#$-up with the Jason TV thing evolving EMT, you obviously do not accept the fact that you are now a journalist and have to demonstrate journalistic integrity to maintain credibility with your readers.

Your post is a direct attack on 37S because they called out a RIDCULOUS post by Nick. 

I look forward to the day when a new site run by a real journalist with integrity puts you in the DEADPOOL.

I hope you don&#039;t start your pror practices of deleting comments here because you classify them as SPAM...executive privilege part of your Bush playbook, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIke,</p>
<p>Like you really love the comments attacking you&#8230;.yeah right.  You clearly have a monster-sized ego and think you can intimidate folks from taking shots at you and your company’s content.  It seems to me like you operate using the same strategies of George Bush to crush all dissenting opinions.</p>
<p>Similar to your other major $#$-up with the Jason TV thing evolving EMT, you obviously do not accept the fact that you are now a journalist and have to demonstrate journalistic integrity to maintain credibility with your readers.</p>
<p>Your post is a direct attack on 37S because they called out a RIDCULOUS post by Nick. </p>
<p>I look forward to the day when a new site run by a real journalist with integrity puts you in the DEADPOOL.</p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t start your pror practices of deleting comments here because you classify them as SPAM&#8230;executive privilege part of your Bush playbook, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Tayfun Ozturkmen</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557158</link>
		<dc:creator>Tayfun Ozturkmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike I agree with you that charging for software is not the only way to make a crust but how you can blame one company folding over another company&#039;s methodology totally baffles me. 

37 signals are masters of the freemium model. The price of their products scale proportionally to the value of them to the client. They&#039;re success as a poster child of web apps and legions happy customers are testaments to this.

&lt;blockquote&gt;They fired a ridiculous and sensationalist blog post in our direction. I fired back.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If this blog post was part of your rebuttle then the fact you used the news of a pay-for rss reader going down the dunny to prove your point is kinda week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike I agree with you that charging for software is not the only way to make a crust but how you can blame one company folding over another company&#8217;s methodology totally baffles me. </p>
<p>37 signals are masters of the freemium model. The price of their products scale proportionally to the value of them to the client. They&#8217;re success as a poster child of web apps and legions happy customers are testaments to this.</p>
<blockquote><p>They fired a ridiculous and sensationalist blog post in our direction. I fired back.</p></blockquote>
<p>If this blog post was part of your rebuttle then the fact you used the news of a pay-for rss reader going down the dunny to prove your point is kinda week.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557152</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very poorly researched post if you think that feedlounge was making any of its decisions based off of anything 37s has ever said.

I don&#039;t necessarily disagree with the point you&#039;re trying to make about 37s, but by using feedlounge as an example, you pretty much shot yourself in the foot and made me no longer have any faith in the credibility of your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very poorly researched post if you think that feedlounge was making any of its decisions based off of anything 37s has ever said.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily disagree with the point you&#8217;re trying to make about 37s, but by using feedlounge as an example, you pretty much shot yourself in the foot and made me no longer have any faith in the credibility of your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Vick</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557131</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Vick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - thanks for being honest and letting your readers know that you created a post for the single purpose of &quot;getting back&quot; at another site which simply pointed out an error in intern Nick&#039;s thinking. I can only imagine if someone mentions that another one is wrong, oh the horror! Scare tactics work well in Web 2.0 land.

It&#039;s too bad that you didnt put that comment into the initial post when it went live so taht your readers on the rss would know why you really created this post.

So from now on we must always wonder if a TC post is for real or a get-back attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; thanks for being honest and letting your readers know that you created a post for the single purpose of &#8220;getting back&#8221; at another site which simply pointed out an error in intern Nick&#8217;s thinking. I can only imagine if someone mentions that another one is wrong, oh the horror! Scare tactics work well in Web 2.0 land.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad that you didnt put that comment into the initial post when it went live so taht your readers on the rss would know why you really created this post.</p>
<p>So from now on we must always wonder if a TC post is for real or a get-back attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Barrett</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1557032</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They fired a ridiculous and sensationalist blog post in our direction. I fired back.&quot;

Is that really what you think TechCrunch readers want?

Please stick to the tech/Web 2.0 reporting and leave the pissing matches to private email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They fired a ridiculous and sensationalist blog post in our direction. I fired back.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that really what you think TechCrunch readers want?</p>
<p>Please stick to the tech/Web 2.0 reporting and leave the pissing matches to private email.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1556908</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the comments.

Remember the 37S mantra, which is effectively &quot;you must charge for your software or else you are stupid and you are hurting those of us who charge.&quot; Charging for software often makes sense. It also often does not. In those cases where it doesn&#039;t, we point it out. And 37S goes on the attack.

You can see this post as an attack on them, but it is really just an attack on their cult and ideology, which I think is dangerous and stupid. There are many ways to make money on software. Those that don&#039;t charge are not necessarily wrong.

You should also read their post, which I linked to above. It was the first shot in this most recent volley between us. 

http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/562-fleeing-free?

Jason says software is valuable and so the customer must pay. If everyone listened to Jason Fried, we wouldn&#039;t have Skype. Or free webmail (before hotmail, we didn&#039;t). Or any of the other free desktop or web applications that we all use every day and make our life better. All of those free software products were created with a profit motive. Many became massively successful and made their founders a lot of money.

Now, back to the disagreement. I went no harder at them than they went at us. I doubt they are losing any sleep over this, just as I didn&#039;t over their post. We&#039;re all big boys and able to handle a little disagreement. They fired a ridiculous and sensationalist blog post in our direction. I fired back. And the next time I see Jason, I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll shake hands and have a beer.

Different viewpoints are fine. I value the fact that our readers feel free to disagree with me so vehemently. By contrast, discord is not in general permitted by the community that comments on their blog. You must join the cult or get slammed.

I&#039;ve said this many, many times. You can disagree with me. You can comment to that on this blog. You can even stop reading. But you are not going to change the way I run this site. I write what I believe is true and I will continue to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the comments.</p>
<p>Remember the 37S mantra, which is effectively &#8220;you must charge for your software or else you are stupid and you are hurting those of us who charge.&#8221; Charging for software often makes sense. It also often does not. In those cases where it doesn&#8217;t, we point it out. And 37S goes on the attack.</p>
<p>You can see this post as an attack on them, but it is really just an attack on their cult and ideology, which I think is dangerous and stupid. There are many ways to make money on software. Those that don&#8217;t charge are not necessarily wrong.</p>
<p>You should also read their post, which I linked to above. It was the first shot in this most recent volley between us. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/562-fleeing-free?" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/562-fleeing-free?'>http://www.37si...2-fleeing-free?</a></p>
<p>Jason says software is valuable and so the customer must pay. If everyone listened to Jason Fried, we wouldn&#8217;t have Skype. Or free webmail (before hotmail, we didn&#8217;t). Or any of the other free desktop or web applications that we all use every day and make our life better. All of those free software products were created with a profit motive. Many became massively successful and made their founders a lot of money.</p>
<p>Now, back to the disagreement. I went no harder at them than they went at us. I doubt they are losing any sleep over this, just as I didn&#8217;t over their post. We&#8217;re all big boys and able to handle a little disagreement. They fired a ridiculous and sensationalist blog post in our direction. I fired back. And the next time I see Jason, I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll shake hands and have a beer.</p>
<p>Different viewpoints are fine. I value the fact that our readers feel free to disagree with me so vehemently. By contrast, discord is not in general permitted by the community that comments on their blog. You must join the cult or get slammed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said this many, many times. You can disagree with me. You can comment to that on this blog. You can even stop reading. But you are not going to change the way I run this site. I write what I believe is true and I will continue to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1556648</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>37Signals is a darling company right now for the media, surprised by the downer article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>37Signals is a darling company right now for the media, surprised by the downer article.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Prendergast</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1556569</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Prendergast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite Basecamp being our largest competitor, 37 Signals are given too much credit in this instance. 

For a privately held company with no published earnings and regularly bloated user numbers (which surprise surprise include free accounts) if the proprietors of Feedlounge did base their decisions off Jason Fried&#039;s comments then is that really Jason&#039;s fault?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite Basecamp being our largest competitor, 37 Signals are given too much credit in this instance. </p>
<p>For a privately held company with no published earnings and regularly bloated user numbers (which surprise surprise include free accounts) if the proprietors of Feedlounge did base their decisions off Jason Fried&#8217;s comments then is that really Jason&#8217;s fault?</p>
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		<title>By: David McT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1555959</link>
		<dc:creator>David McT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like closure was more to do with family issues, please do your research TC before flying off @ 37S...

http://feedlounge.com/blog/2007/04/30/time-to-say-goodbye/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like closure was more to do with family issues, please do your research TC before flying off @ 37S&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://feedlounge.com/blog/2007/04/30/time-to-say-goodbye/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://feedlounge.com/blog/2007/04/30/time-to-say-goodbye/'>http://feedloun...to-say-goodbye/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/13/37signals-drives-another-company-to-the-deadpool/comment-page-2/#comment-1555883</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who here is going to tell Marc Benioff (Salesforce) and Zach Nelson (NetSuite) ... et all the bad news?

Understand Arrington lives in a walled garden (think Hollywood).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who here is going to tell Marc Benioff (Salesforce) and Zach Nelson (NetSuite) &#8230; et all the bad news?</p>
<p>Understand Arrington lives in a walled garden (think Hollywood).</p>
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