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	<title>Comments on: Google Closes Video Marketplace; Users Out Of Luck</title>
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		<title>By: Kinghihi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-2591432</link>
		<dc:creator>Kinghihi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: download video</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-2539285</link>
		<dc:creator>download video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video Download Studio™ is a powerful video downloader and converter tool which can help you download videos and free music from popular online social websites like YouTube, Metacafe, imeem, Break.com, Dailymotion, Veoh, Yahoo video, Google video, MySpace, Vimeo, RuTube, Blip.tv etc.

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<p><a href="http://www.downloadvideos-convert.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.downloadvideos-convert.com/'>http://www.down...os-convert.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Webstop: Przystanek Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;kupić&#8221; to nie znaczy zawsze to samo - przynajmniej w świecie DRM</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-2/#comment-2380887</link>
		<dc:creator>Webstop: Przystanek Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;kupić&#8221; to nie znaczy zawsze to samo - przynajmniej w świecie DRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google ogłosiło wczoraj zamknięcie Google Video Marketplace, które zostało otworzone półtorej roku temu jako odpowiedź na wprowadzenie do iTunes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google ogłosiło wczoraj zamknięcie Google Video Marketplace, które zostało otworzone półtorej roku temu jako odpowiedź na wprowadzenie do iTunes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Geekery &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The GPhone dilemma, it has no GSpot</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-2/#comment-1588034</link>
		<dc:creator>The Geekery &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The GPhone dilemma, it has no GSpot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google Docs &amp; Spreadsheet&#8217;s are limited, not very big in the business world (So far). C. Google has no media marketplace anymore. D. You can POP Gmail but their is no easy push features for Gmail, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google Docs &amp; Spreadsheet&#8217;s are limited, not very big in the business world (So far). C. Google has no media marketplace anymore. D. You can POP Gmail but their is no easy push features for Gmail, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NexGen Technology Blog » Google Reverses Position On Video Refunds; Good For Them</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-2/#comment-1567311</link>
		<dc:creator>NexGen Technology Blog » Google Reverses Position On Video Refunds; Good For Them</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] criticized Google last week when they shut down their video marketplace and told users they would receive refunds only through [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] criticized Google last week when they shut down their video marketplace and told users they would receive refunds only through [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DBL</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-2/#comment-1563370</link>
		<dc:creator>DBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Google also going to refund users for the time they spent collecting video downloads &#039;to own&#039; only to have their collections blown away?

No matter how you slice it, this is the most evil thing that can be done to a consumer who agrees to download DRM, and far as I know, Google was the first to do it. They broke the cherry. Since Google is so respected in the industry, how many do you think will follow when their services aren&#039;t doing well, citing Google&#039;s as standard practice? It simply doesn&#039;t matter whether I get a full cash refund or not. If you sell me something, you should not have the right to reverse the transaction at a time of your choosing, because I put some resources into completing that transaction on the understanding that it would be final.

This sort of thing should be against the law, if it isn&#039;t already in some technical way. If you run a DRM service and decide to cancel render it inoperative after the fact, the only lawful course of action should be to make software available to remove the DRM from all purchased tracks (rentals not included, obviously).

Nothing else is even remotely fair. And if the content providers refuse to allow it, then the law should go after them as well, as they were party to the agreement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Google also going to refund users for the time they spent collecting video downloads &#8216;to own&#8217; only to have their collections blown away?</p>
<p>No matter how you slice it, this is the most evil thing that can be done to a consumer who agrees to download DRM, and far as I know, Google was the first to do it. They broke the cherry. Since Google is so respected in the industry, how many do you think will follow when their services aren&#8217;t doing well, citing Google&#8217;s as standard practice? It simply doesn&#8217;t matter whether I get a full cash refund or not. If you sell me something, you should not have the right to reverse the transaction at a time of your choosing, because I put some resources into completing that transaction on the understanding that it would be final.</p>
<p>This sort of thing should be against the law, if it isn&#8217;t already in some technical way. If you run a DRM service and decide to cancel render it inoperative after the fact, the only lawful course of action should be to make software available to remove the DRM from all purchased tracks (rentals not included, obviously).</p>
<p>Nothing else is even remotely fair. And if the content providers refuse to allow it, then the law should go after them as well, as they were party to the agreement.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Curran</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-2/#comment-1560010</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is actually a blessing in disguise. A cruel to be kind measure perhaps.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://suburbia.org.uk/blog/2007/08/17/013047.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google stops Videos for Sale / Rent: A blessing in disguise?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is actually a blessing in disguise. A cruel to be kind measure perhaps.</p>
<p><a href="http://suburbia.org.uk/blog/2007/08/17/013047.html" rel="nofollow">Google stops Videos for Sale / Rent: A blessing in disguise?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bogdan Gavrila</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1557327</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogdan Gavrila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not cool at all and I fell stupid that I paid for it. It&#039;s like an online nigerian scam only this one is put together by Google.

They sould have mentioned from the start the full refund. Oh well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not cool at all and I fell stupid that I paid for it. It&#8217;s like an online nigerian scam only this one is put together by Google.</p>
<p>They sould have mentioned from the start the full refund. Oh well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Gove</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1556153</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Gove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google IS providing full refunds on request.  See
http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=74495&amp;topic=11489</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google IS providing full refunds on request.  See<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=74495&amp;topic=11489" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=74495&amp;topic=11489'>http://video.go...amp;topic=11489</a></p>
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		<title>By: Will Richmond</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1554743</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Richmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google Video Store was a painful distraction for Google.  All the while they should have been using their formidable online advertising capabilities to help video content providers make money in this market.  Hopefully they&#039;ll get on track now.  I&#039;ve had many discussions with Google executives about their video efforts over the last 2 years.  For more analysis on this move, take a look at this post: http://www.broadbandvideo360.com/2007/08/13/good-riddance-to-google-video-store/

-Will Richmond</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Video Store was a painful distraction for Google.  All the while they should have been using their formidable online advertising capabilities to help video content providers make money in this market.  Hopefully they&#8217;ll get on track now.  I&#8217;ve had many discussions with Google executives about their video efforts over the last 2 years.  For more analysis on this move, take a look at this post: <a href="http://www.broadbandvideo360.com/2007/08/13/good-riddance-to-google-video-store/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.broadbandvideo360.com/2007/08/13/good-riddance-to-google-video-store/'>http://www.broa...le-video-store/</a></p>
<p>-Will Richmond</p>
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		<title>By: Pietro</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1553812</link>
		<dc:creator>Pietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft&#039;s syndrom... 
Google is suffering from the Microsoft syndrom: not respecting people, imposing bad treatment on users, acting in a selfish way, being dishonest...  
Being a user of Adsense and Adword, I can tell you that this bad behaviour is by no way a surprise.  I don&#039;t like google anymore and I&#039;m trying now other alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft&#8217;s syndrom&#8230;<br />
Google is suffering from the Microsoft syndrom: not respecting people, imposing bad treatment on users, acting in a selfish way, being dishonest&#8230;<br />
Being a user of Adsense and Adword, I can tell you that this bad behaviour is by no way a surprise.  I don&#8217;t like google anymore and I&#8217;m trying now other alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: twowords</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1553433</link>
		<dc:creator>twowords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words:

Wire fraud.

Google SOLD videos to people and pocketed the money. Simple as that.

Can you say S.E.C?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words:</p>
<p>Wire fraud.</p>
<p>Google SOLD videos to people and pocketed the money. Simple as that.</p>
<p>Can you say S.E.C?</p>
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		<title>By: O_O</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1553244</link>
		<dc:creator>O_O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets keep this straight: Google is giving MORE MONEY BACK THEN HAS BEEN SPENT ON THE VIDEO SERVICE, although it is in the form of credit on Google Checkout. If you spent $0.01-5, you get $5 credit, $5-10, you get $10 credit, etc... so if you spent $196 on the videos, you will get $200 credit. While this isn&#039;t good situation for everyone, they&#039;re giving full refunds in the form of store credit for products that were RENTED, and they&#039;re giving you time to export anything that you purchased to own in addition to the store credit. If you rented something, you should expect it to disappear. I don&#039;t think Google is being so evil here. It&#039;d be kind of crazy for them to give full refunds to everyone. Do you really think Apple, or any other company, would give full refunds for all of the billions of songs that were purchased on iTunes if they decide to discontinue the service and you can no longer transfer the music to another computer? This is coming out of Google&#039;s own pockets, I&#039;m sure they aren&#039;t getting a refund for the material they already distributed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets keep this straight: Google is giving MORE MONEY BACK THEN HAS BEEN SPENT ON THE VIDEO SERVICE, although it is in the form of credit on Google Checkout. If you spent $0.01-5, you get $5 credit, $5-10, you get $10 credit, etc&#8230; so if you spent $196 on the videos, you will get $200 credit. While this isn&#8217;t good situation for everyone, they&#8217;re giving full refunds in the form of store credit for products that were RENTED, and they&#8217;re giving you time to export anything that you purchased to own in addition to the store credit. If you rented something, you should expect it to disappear. I don&#8217;t think Google is being so evil here. It&#8217;d be kind of crazy for them to give full refunds to everyone. Do you really think Apple, or any other company, would give full refunds for all of the billions of songs that were purchased on iTunes if they decide to discontinue the service and you can no longer transfer the music to another computer? This is coming out of Google&#8217;s own pockets, I&#8217;m sure they aren&#8217;t getting a refund for the material they already distributed.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1552641</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google Video: Do I Hear Class Action?...&lt;/strong&gt;

 Now you own it - now you don&#8217;t.&#160; That&#8217;s the new Google game.&#160; Videos you you &#8220;purchased&#8221; will no longer play in three days.&#160; Reimbursement?&#160; Forget it: you get partial and arbitrary credit to spend within 60...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Google Video: Do I Hear Class Action?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> Now you own it &#8211; now you don&#8217;t.&nbsp; That&#8217;s the new Google game.&nbsp; Videos you you &#8220;purchased&#8221; will no longer play in three days.&nbsp; Reimbursement?&nbsp; Forget it: you get partial and arbitrary credit to spend within 60&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1552585</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet this won&#039;t last (the compensation structure, that is). Someone higher up at Google will realize the damage they&#039;ve just done and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/08/12/google-video-do-i-hear-class-action/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reverse the decision&lt;/a&gt; before the Class Action lawyers could file their papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet this won&#8217;t last (the compensation structure, that is). Someone higher up at Google will realize the damage they&#8217;ve just done and <a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/08/12/google-video-do-i-hear-class-action/" rel="nofollow">reverse the decision</a> before the Class Action lawyers could file their papers.</p>
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		<title>By: Malte</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1552030</link>
		<dc:creator>Malte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about people who bought videos via Google Video? Will they be lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about people who bought videos via Google Video? Will they be lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Rubin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1552012</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone wanna bet googlevil about-faces this decision? I&#039;ve got some webvan stock I&#039;m willing to wager...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone wanna bet googlevil about-faces this decision? I&#8217;ve got some webvan stock I&#8217;m willing to wager&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Spira</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551666</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Spira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google probably isn&#039;t responsible for having to shut off the videos, but they certainly are responsible for the ridiculously short 60 day window to use the refund  And it is patently offensive to call the refund a bonus.  I would be surprised if they don&#039;t backtrack about the 60 days after they see the hostile reaction from people like me, who never bought a video there.  The bad publicity they&#039;re going to get from this simply isn&#039;t worth it, given the small amount of money we&#039;re talking about.

The only good news is that this is an almost perfect situation to illustrate for people the evils of drm.  In the future, whenever someone argues that drm isn&#039;t a problem if you aren&#039;t trying to make copies, this episode will provide a perfect response.

Buying something online with drm isn&#039;t buying at all; it&#039;s renting for as long as the company continues to support the drm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google probably isn&#8217;t responsible for having to shut off the videos, but they certainly are responsible for the ridiculously short 60 day window to use the refund  And it is patently offensive to call the refund a bonus.  I would be surprised if they don&#8217;t backtrack about the 60 days after they see the hostile reaction from people like me, who never bought a video there.  The bad publicity they&#8217;re going to get from this simply isn&#8217;t worth it, given the small amount of money we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>The only good news is that this is an almost perfect situation to illustrate for people the evils of drm.  In the future, whenever someone argues that drm isn&#8217;t a problem if you aren&#8217;t trying to make copies, this episode will provide a perfect response.</p>
<p>Buying something online with drm isn&#8217;t buying at all; it&#8217;s renting for as long as the company continues to support the drm.</p>
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		<title>By: John Franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551641</link>
		<dc:creator>John Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know your Gmail account is next.  Or imagine Google Docs goes away...

&quot;Thank you for your support, but our XX is going away.  You can transfer all your data to our storage service for $1/Gb. cha-ching!  For the hassle we give you $1 in Checkout money, which itself will be going away in 6months (and remaining funds in your account will be forfeited to the Jumbo 747 Google mobile for a good cause like global warming.  Thanks for using Google and loving our beta products until they die!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know your Gmail account is next.  Or imagine Google Docs goes away&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Thank you for your support, but our XX is going away.  You can transfer all your data to our storage service for $1/Gb. cha-ching!  For the hassle we give you $1 in Checkout money, which itself will be going away in 6months (and remaining funds in your account will be forfeited to the Jumbo 747 Google mobile for a good cause like global warming.  Thanks for using Google and loving our beta products until they die!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: peter goesinya</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551522</link>
		<dc:creator>peter goesinya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats up with all these internet changes? Google video is closing? Now I hear that Pligg.com is selling. ( http://www.overdugg.com/pliggcom-is-for-sale/ )
Are we nearing a some big shakeups in the internet community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats up with all these internet changes? Google video is closing? Now I hear that Pligg.com is selling. ( <a href="http://www.overdugg.com/pliggcom-is-for-sale/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.overdugg.com/pliggcom-is-for-sale/'>http://www.over...om-is-for-sale/</a> )<br />
Are we nearing a some big shakeups in the internet community?</p>
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		<title>By: kingharvest</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551459</link>
		<dc:creator>kingharvest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The doublespeak speaks volumes on its own: &quot;In an effort to improve all Google services, we will no longer offer the ability to buy or rent videos for download from Google Video, ending the DTO/DTR (download-to-own/rent) program.&quot;

While it is true that sometimes a policy may be simply stupid and not &quot;evil,&quot; once the seed is planted, it is hard to go back again, isn&#039;t it. It is the same with Apple. They are making policy decisions that simply would not have happened in the days of fighting for survival. This past week they were shipping iWork06 packages that arrived on the day the new version was released. As long as the happy consumer does not open it they can exchange if, but it they did not read the paper that day? Tough luck, I guess. As is true of others (like me) who happened to buy it two weeks ago. In the good old days they never would have shipped the old version if a new one was coming out in two days. 

And the new tagline: You can&#039;t be too thin. Really? That might be true of a monitor but it has many other meanings to many other people. 

Again, not evil, just stupid. 

There was a time when Google and Apple did not do stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The doublespeak speaks volumes on its own: &#8220;In an effort to improve all Google services, we will no longer offer the ability to buy or rent videos for download from Google Video, ending the DTO/DTR (download-to-own/rent) program.&#8221;</p>
<p>While it is true that sometimes a policy may be simply stupid and not &#8220;evil,&#8221; once the seed is planted, it is hard to go back again, isn&#8217;t it. It is the same with Apple. They are making policy decisions that simply would not have happened in the days of fighting for survival. This past week they were shipping iWork06 packages that arrived on the day the new version was released. As long as the happy consumer does not open it they can exchange if, but it they did not read the paper that day? Tough luck, I guess. As is true of others (like me) who happened to buy it two weeks ago. In the good old days they never would have shipped the old version if a new one was coming out in two days. </p>
<p>And the new tagline: You can&#8217;t be too thin. Really? That might be true of a monitor but it has many other meanings to many other people. </p>
<p>Again, not evil, just stupid. </p>
<p>There was a time when Google and Apple did not do stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: seepeesate</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551351</link>
		<dc:creator>seepeesate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy (#28) said &quot;Hey, am I missing something here...&quot;

Yes, you&#039;re missing two things. First is that Goole had two different video deals happening -- a rental and an ownership (where they promised the video would be viewable forever). It&#039;s this latter group who are understandably upset -- they&#039;ve been ripped off.

Secondly, Google is not, in fact, offering refunds. They are offering store credit to people who bought videos. But even that is theft in disguise: you have spend an amount equal to the &quot;credit&quot; in order to get your credit.

In other words, Google is saying &quot;Sorry we stole from you, but we&#039;ll let you play double-or-nothing!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy (#28) said &#8220;Hey, am I missing something here&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re missing two things. First is that Goole had two different video deals happening &#8212; a rental and an ownership (where they promised the video would be viewable forever). It&#8217;s this latter group who are understandably upset &#8212; they&#8217;ve been ripped off.</p>
<p>Secondly, Google is not, in fact, offering refunds. They are offering store credit to people who bought videos. But even that is theft in disguise: you have spend an amount equal to the &#8220;credit&#8221; in order to get your credit.</p>
<p>In other words, Google is saying &#8220;Sorry we stole from you, but we&#8217;ll let you play double-or-nothing!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Is Google becoming evil?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551318</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Google becoming evil?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Evidence #2 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johnnie Manzari</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551173</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie Manzari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got one of these emails, and my jaw hit the floor. The audacity to offer me a 60-day expiring credit to their own payment service (which is not even the industry standard payment service) is disgusting. Why not just come to my house and take a dump in my DVD player while they are at it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got one of these emails, and my jaw hit the floor. The audacity to offer me a 60-day expiring credit to their own payment service (which is not even the industry standard payment service) is disgusting. Why not just come to my house and take a dump in my DVD player while they are at it?</p>
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		<title>By: Deelip</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/10/google-closes-video-marketplace-users-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-1551044</link>
		<dc:creator>Deelip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is definitely ignominious. 
Google sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely ignominious.<br />
Google sucks.</p>
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