Comments on: The Future Of Copyright Protection Is Here And It Costs $11 An Hour http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:21:38 -0800 hourly 1 By: BayTSP, avisos de violación de DMCA automáticos > Blog Daddy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1839576 BayTSP, avisos de violación de DMCA automáticos > Blog Daddy Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:44:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1839576 [...] En consecuencia, se le pedía que eliminara tal contenido, cosa que terminó haciendo porque violaba las propias reglas de su comunidad. Es muy común este tipo de panoramas en las redes sociales, y sin ir más lejos veamos a YouTube, y menciono al rey del video porque Viacom es el mayor cliente de BayTSP [...] [...] En consecuencia, se le pedía que eliminara tal contenido, cosa que terminó haciendo porque violaba las propias reglas de su comunidad. Es muy común este tipo de panoramas en las redes sociales, y sin ir más lejos veamos a YouTube, y menciono al rey del video porque Viacom es el mayor cliente de BayTSP [...]

]]> By: achartwell http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1549018 achartwell Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:25:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1549018 Great post. I tend to agree with KingJacob, on the advertising angle. I was at the Stanford E-Commerce summit when attorneys for Google/YouTube were defending their DCMA practices. According to the Google attorney, Google/YouTube has trouble differentiating between an infringing copyrighted video clips and viral marketing campaigns. According to the attorney, viral campaigns often but accidentally conflict with the DCMA, putting publishers in the awkward position of being served with a DCMA violation notice from a movie content owner, only later to find that the "offending" clip was part of a studio viral marketing campaign for the movie. In the story the “offending” viral campaign was for the movie “Knocked-Up.” Which means even movie studios cannot internally track what is protected copyright content and what is not. I’m not sure how the TSPBay “analysts” and their software can solve that problem. Ad tagging technology, like ScanScout’s, that uses aural, visual, and text tagging is more advanced than a room full of guys eating popcorn and watching videos. Moreover, using a categorizing and tagging ad-serving system like ScanScout’s makes more sense then continuing to abuse the DCMA. Everyone I know in the in the legal community agrees that Google/YouTube doesn’t have a leg to stand on—they know they are allowing copyrighted material to post. This is obvious when SNL’s “D*ck in a Box” clip (which now has an Emmy nomination, thanks in large part to YouTube) has been up and running since December. Nothing is free. I’d rather have access to the content and see a tiny message at the bottom of the screen, than be barred from repeat viewings of my favorite clips. I say drop in the ads and move on. Great post. I tend to agree with KingJacob, on the advertising angle.

I was at the Stanford E-Commerce summit when attorneys for Google/YouTube were defending their DCMA practices. According to the Google attorney, Google/YouTube has trouble differentiating between an infringing copyrighted video clips and viral marketing campaigns. According to the attorney, viral campaigns often but accidentally conflict with the DCMA, putting publishers in the awkward position of being served with a DCMA violation notice from a movie content owner, only later to find that the “offending” clip was part of a studio viral marketing campaign for the movie. In the story the “offending” viral campaign was for the movie “Knocked-Up.” Which means even movie studios cannot internally track what is protected copyright content and what is not.

I’m not sure how the TSPBay “analysts” and their software can solve that problem.

Ad tagging technology, like ScanScout’s, that uses aural, visual, and text tagging is more advanced than a room full of guys eating popcorn and watching videos. Moreover, using a categorizing and tagging ad-serving system like ScanScout’s makes more sense then continuing to abuse the DCMA.

Everyone I know in the in the legal community agrees that Google/YouTube doesn’t have a leg to stand on—they know they are allowing copyrighted material to post. This is obvious when SNL’s “D*ck in a Box” clip (which now has an Emmy nomination, thanks in large part to YouTube) has been up and running since December. Nothing is free. I’d rather have access to the content and see a tiny message at the bottom of the screen, than be barred from repeat viewings of my favorite clips. I say drop in the ads and move on.

]]> By: iMarketingGuru (Search Marketing Wiki) http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1547626 iMarketingGuru (Search Marketing Wiki) Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:56:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1547626 Heyyy...There's now more work for the WiPros and Tatas of India...Forget $11 an hour, get the international companies for the manual labor...As for automation, there needs to be better audio recognition and the issues need to be cleaned up for maximum advantages in adding content and protecting the site(s) from piracy... piracy is definitely widely rampant these days. Heyyy…There’s now more work for the WiPros and Tatas of India…Forget $11 an hour, get the international companies for the manual labor…As for automation, there needs to be better audio recognition and the issues need to be cleaned up for maximum advantages in adding content and protecting the site(s) from piracy… piracy is definitely widely rampant these days.

]]> By: James-Silicon Edge http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1545418 James-Silicon Edge Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:37:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1545418 Just FYI, BayTSP goes back more than 5 years -- at least since 1999 or 2000 because I remember meeting Mark right after he launched it. Originally, he focused on 2257 compliance for the adult industry. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=baytsp+2257 -- James Just FYI, BayTSP goes back more than 5 years — at least since 1999 or 2000 because I remember meeting Mark right after he launched it.

Originally, he focused on 2257 compliance for the adult industry.

http://www.goog...p;q=baytsp+2257

– James

]]> By: Steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1545153 Steve Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:15:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1545153 SignedMedia seems to be offering copyright protection and porn detection way cheaper than BayTSP. We are in discussions with them for getting this service and some custom solution applied to our website. http://www.signedmedia.com SignedMedia seems to be offering copyright protection and porn detection way cheaper than BayTSP. We are in discussions with them for getting this service and some custom solution applied to our website.

http://www.signedmedia.com

]]> By: Sean http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544848 Sean Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:50:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544848 Well..many a times startups don't care about copyrighted content..(and everybdy hinges onto youtube's success!)... came across this interesting discussion on copyright issues that startups should be aware of.. http://www.pluggd.in/2007/08/copyrights-infringement-of-copyrights Well..many a times startups don’t care about copyrighted content..(and everybdy hinges onto youtube’s success!)…
came across this interesting discussion on copyright issues that startups should be aware of..
http://www.plug...t-of-copyrights

]]> By: Abhishek http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544766 Abhishek Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:45:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544766 Well how long before these jobs get shipped overseas... Anyways the manual approach is probably the best way to control content. Recently I wrote about Megavideo. As they are offering unlimited length videos and 5GB space, they will have to utilize such services to prevent piracy. http://abhishek.tiwari.com/2007/08/08/megavideo-the-new-sheriff-in-tubetown/ Well how long before these jobs get shipped overseas…
Anyways the manual approach is probably the best way to control content.

Recently I wrote about Megavideo. As they are offering unlimited length videos and 5GB space, they will have to utilize such services to prevent piracy.

http://abhishek...ff-in-tubetown/

]]> By: Darren Stuart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544610 Darren Stuart Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:56:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544610 how long did it take them to remove the 230,000 videos? at $100,000 a month you have to wonder how cost effective it is. Do they think they are losing more in revenue a month because of it? If I had stock in them I would be asking some hard questions to whoever ok'd this move. Instead of wasting all this time and money taking stuff down I would bet they would make more money by using these channels to promote their content. how long did it take them to remove the 230,000 videos? at $100,000 a month you have to wonder how cost effective it is. Do they think they are losing more in revenue a month because of it? If I had stock in them I would be asking some hard questions to whoever ok’d this move.

Instead of wasting all this time and money taking stuff down I would bet they would make more money by using these channels to promote their content.

]]> By: mathew johnson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544589 mathew johnson Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:40:37 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544589 @alaska: great story! step 3: profit. @nerd forum: youtube, etc. should have some sort of paid premium service that a user can keep getting for free if they keep reporting x number of copyright violations. @alaska: great story! step 3: profit.

@nerd forum: youtube, etc. should have some sort of paid premium service that a user can keep getting for free if they keep reporting x number of copyright violations.

]]> By: Boubékeur http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544538 Boubékeur Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:05:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544538 Do we have really enough time to provide copyright protection ? At the end if we want to have such protection, we know it is a neverending story. We have to count on webcrawlers and regular control and find a balance between the benefit and the cost (in time I mean) of legal steps, reminders, warning , ... Boubékeur http://boubekeur.blog.lemonde.fr Do we have really enough time to provide copyright protection ?
At the end if we want to have such protection, we know it is a neverending story.
We have to count on webcrawlers and regular control and find a balance between the benefit and the cost (in time I mean) of legal steps, reminders, warning , …

Boubékeur
http://boubekeu...blog.lemonde.fr

]]> By: Nerd Forum http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544535 Nerd Forum Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:04:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544535 They're much better off doing something like Wikipedia, where people are rewarded for successfully reporting copyrighted content. They’re much better off doing something like Wikipedia, where people are rewarded for successfully reporting copyrighted content.

]]> By: KingJacob http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544531 KingJacob Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:02:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544531 Why cant old media just adapt? There is plenty of ways they could monetise their content being plastered everywhere if they just stopped wasting time and money clinging to their precious DMCA. If they just put ads on their content and uploaded it themselves they wouldnt have issues with users uploading their content. Why cant old media just adapt? There is plenty of ways they could monetise their content being plastered everywhere if they just stopped wasting time and money clinging to their precious DMCA. If they just put ads on their content and uploaded it themselves they wouldnt have issues with users uploading their content.

]]> By: Andrew Pass http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544529 Andrew Pass Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:01:39 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544529 It's good to see that computers haven't completely put labor out of business. It’s good to see that computers haven’t completely put labor out of business.

]]> By: gilltots http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544511 gilltots Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:54:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544511 wow it is unbelievable how stupid the old media companies are. please BayTSP start charging more and bankrupt those retarded dinosaurs. wow it is unbelievable how stupid the old media companies are.

please BayTSP start charging more and bankrupt those retarded dinosaurs.

]]> By: Alaska Miller http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544504 Alaska Miller Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:48:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544504 Yeah, I just hired 5 Russian programmers at $2.20 each and I made them make me a website called iRentToYou.com. I didn't care how they did it as long as they made the site. Now my next step is to find enough morons to use my website. God, I really really hope no one copies and steals my idea and cut me out of the money making loop! Yeah, I just hired 5 Russian programmers at $2.20 each and I made them make me a website called iRentToYou.com. I didn’t care how they did it as long as they made the site. Now my next step is to find enough morons to use my website. God, I really really hope no one copies and steals my idea and cut me out of the money making loop!

]]> By: Andrew http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544503 Andrew Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:47:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544503 The digital copyright act says all you have to do is remove the content if the owner asks. So you are in full compliance if you do this. If someone uploads the same video again, it's on the owner to ask for it to be removed again. And the circle goes round and round and round. The copyright owner's real complain is with the people uploading the content, not youtube who is complying with each request for removal. Right? The digital copyright act says all you have to do is remove the content if the owner asks. So you are in full compliance if you do this. If someone uploads the same video again, it’s on the owner to ask for it to be removed again. And the circle goes round and round and round. The copyright owner’s real complain is with the people uploading the content, not youtube who is complying with each request for removal. Right?

]]> By: Tim http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/comment-page-1/#comment-1544499 Tim Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:43:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/08/the-future-of-copyright-protection-is-here-and-it-costs-11-an-hour/#comment-1544499 There's a job for you. $11 an hour? I bet they could find people for much less. I know people who watch these videos all day for free. The only real solution is to find a way to create a system that rewards people for notifying web owners of illegal content. This just goes to show how much money these big companies are willing to pay to kill content. Crazy. There’s a job for you. $11 an hour? I bet they could find people for much less.

I know people who watch these videos all day for free. The only real solution is to find a way to create a system that rewards people for notifying web owners of illegal content.

This just goes to show how much money these big companies are willing to pay to kill content. Crazy.

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