Another social networking embarrassment for a presidential candidate: Rudy Giuliani’s 17-year-old daughter Caroline supports Barack Obama for president over her father. Until this morning she was a member of the One Million Strong For Obama Facebook group, and lists her political views as “liberal.” Caroline removed herself from the group after Slate emailed her about it, but it remained in her newsfeed.
This is certainly not the first time social networks have been a thorn for political candidates. In March, Senator John McCain’s MySpace profile was hacked to suggest he was in favor of gay marriage. The incident was later picked up by the Daily Show.
@adair - wha now? Where did I say Obama was the only one taking jabs at other canidates? I don’t believe I said that (nor would I ever say that)
What I said is, when he does take jabs at Clinton, he comes off as immature. Of course, you’re a person who praises people (see above) for making fun of 17 year olds so I completely understand why you would not grasp the concept of immaturity. Why don’t you go play outside and let the grown ups have a discussion
Oh, and P.S., I’m more likely to vote for Fred Thompson than I am to vote for Obama or Clinton so my political ethos has really nothing to do with this because I don’t paticularly like either of them.
Those of us with 17 year old daughters know our daughters would vote against us just to show their independence. So who really cares?
She supports Barack Obama? Maybe she wants to nuke Pakistan! Or maybe she’s pissed off because “10,000 people died in Kansas” (in a tornado) and it’s all Bush’s fault!
Either way her endorsement won’t make any difference. Barack Hussein Obama will NEVER COME CLOSE to getting a nomination from the Democrat party for president. He just isn’t smart enough or bold enough to be considered Presidential by anyone but liberal urban women, effete teenagers, and children.
Can someone fill me in on the legality of posting private facebook content to the public?
If I post content private to my network on facebook, is it illegal for someone within my network to distribute a screen shot publicly?
And, are sites such as techcrunch or slate permitted to reproduce the private info?
In response to:
“She’s too young to be a Republican. All that liberal philosophy that sounds so good when you’re 20 ends up looking ridiculous and unworkable when you’re 40. After you have succeeded on your own, you look back and think “wow, I’m a conservative. How did that happen?””
Most people don’t make it on their own. The failure of conservative philosophy is that it fails to take this into account. Turning 40 doesn’t mean you start to find things unworkable, but rather you stop considering the needs of the greater population in your political views. Therein lies the fundamental chasm that separates liberals and conservatives.
“rather you stop considering the needs of the greater population in your political views. Therein lies the fundamental chasm that separates liberals and conservatives.”
Surely you realize that if the greater population votes for and agrees with the conservative philosophy because it benefits themselves more (with lower taxes and the likes), then maybe it also is benefits the country as a whole?
I think that is what seperates liberals and conservatives… conservatives aren’t trying to live in an ideal dream world which hurts them a lot more then it helps others.
Totally useless Information.
Can somebody on earth tell me why this article is of ANY use.
Is techcrunch now focusing on the Gossip 2.0.
WHO cares if the daughter of Rudi Giuliani likes this or that ??
No really what is the place of such useless info in techcrunch.com ?
Michael: many of your users are getting more and more tired of the site being spoiled by these useless infos. I hope you read this comment
I just lost a lot of respect for TechCrunch.
This isn’t news. She’s a minor. And living under the colossal shadow of somebody like the Mayor is probably enough to drive most children to rebel, revolt, and define themselves as individuals.
Child psych. 101 Arrington.
Retitle this “Blogosphere Embarrassment for Mikie Arrington.”
great job TC — out a kid trying to live her own life in the midst of potentially a ton of pressure to do otherwise.
and so what if it’ll be on stewart’s show; are you that much of a traffic whore?
..Guiliani doesnt have a chance anyway so who gives a rat’s ass what his daughter thinks.
No contradiction. Whinston Churchill: “If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.” (Churchill was a liberal as young)
The interesting point is that vanishing privacy may increase tolerance. People will find it OK that daughters of presidents don’t share the opinions of their dads, because it will be impossible to maintain the facade of the homogeneous presidential family. This is already the case in Israel (Olmert’s family is far left).
People have already accepted that conservative presidents smoked dope when they were young, as there is documentation. In the future people will accept presidents who said stupid things on their teenage blogs, or occurred in erotic pictures or videos.
What if her intent was purely to find out what’s happening in the group? Competitive monitoring, eh? Such a model daughter…
If I want gossip I’ll go to PerezHilton.com, thank you.
Wow. Ouch for Giuliani.
Why should anyone give a crap about this? What? She can’t make decisions on her own? So what if she took it down? This ain’t news.
Thanks for pointing this out and the creative banter in the comments. However, I can’t believe 64 comments later no one has mentioned Rudy’s divorce. Last I checked divorce often results in children siding with one parent. I guess this shows who Rudy’s daughter sided with.
Mike,
John McCain’s MySpace page wasn’t hacked, but “enhanced” http://www.techcrunch.com/2007.....ge-hacked/
I have to say, that I could not agree with you in 100% regarding o.us poetry, but it’s just my opinion, which could be wrong
I couldn’t understand some parts of this article o.us poetry, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.
The only embarrassment is that she removed it and did not have the nerve to stand up for her own opinion
Okay, I’ll admit up front I don’t no one iota about face book. But if its anything like myspace, just because someone joints a “group” or adds them to their friends list, does not mean said person or group reflects their political views. I mean, if I link to a friends site who on his site says that he things what Mike Vick is involved with (Dog brawling) is okay and should be legal, that does not mean that I personally agree on that position either.
This is a great non story here, frankly.
On Morgan Webb’s video blog she insinuated that this profile may not be real. I know for a fact that it is. Caroline Giuliani was friends with my sister and a bunch of her friends on facebook before she deleted her profile (they spent a couple of years together at the Convent of the Sacred Heart in NYC). She in fact been a part of this Obama group for months, it just happened to break now.
Notice on the picture provided to us by Tech Crunch that Caroline left the Obama group at 6:01am.
6:01AM!
To me that clearly indicates she was not responsible for leaving said group. No college girl is going to be doing that sort of thing that early. Someone probably gave her some help, like maybe her daddy’s friends.
Heck, at least she’s politically aware…unlike the majority of the United States. Everyone has the right to support who they want. I don’t see what the issue is.
This has nothing to do with TechCrunch. Leave the 17 year old girl alone, Michael. It’s really slimy that you’re even writing about this. Try to act like a grown-up.
Get off you high horses, people. This does deserve to be mentioned on TechCrunch. First of all, it’s all over the internet on blogs and a lot of people are talking about it. Second of all, it speaks to the state of our society and how new technology is effecting it. Just like news about people fired from their jobs for what they post on facebook/myspace. It’s how social networking has impacted the world. That is web 2.0
I don’t necessarily think they should have published a screenshot with some of her personal information still in tact, but I do think it speaks a lot go Rudy’s character. If you read into the way he treats his kids and his personal/family life the guy is a schmoe. And I think that’s important to know. Sure kids disagree with their parents all the time but to not support your own father running for president… that takes a lot. And it means that the man was a real asshole to her. If you read up on it, he has not been involved in her life at all for many years. And you can “read up” on groups without joining them… it does mean you are endorsing Obama by joining it. You’re really reaching if you try to argue otherwise.
And, in case anyone is still reading these comments, here’s another chapter in the story. They’ve now published the personal details of the “reporter” who broke the Facebook ToS to publish Caroline’s personal details.
Digg link here:
http://tinyurl.com/3bl3r5
“If you hang something out on the Internet … for public consumption … then you and your comments are fair game.”
On the other hand, most of us don’t have paparazzi type reporters hunting for us 24/7.
You can join a group to share discussion and not necessarily share their views. For instance White supremacist will join groups of African Americans to share their opinions…its the net some people somehow feel more comfortable to go outside the box here.