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		<title>By: A Bloggers&#8217; Labor Union? : Performancing</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-2/#comment-2850430</link>
		<dc:creator>A Bloggers&#8217; Labor Union? : Performancing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the last few days there has been a lot of press about the prospects of a labor union for bloggers and/or writers. The conversation really took off yesterday with the TechCrunch article Is Blogging Ready For a Unionized Workforce?. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the last few days there has been a lot of press about the prospects of a labor union for bloggers and/or writers. The conversation really took off yesterday with the TechCrunch article Is Blogging Ready For a Unionized Workforce?. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Living Behind The Curve : Is Blogging Ready For a Unionized Workforce?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-2/#comment-2647598</link>
		<dc:creator>Living Behind The Curve : Is Blogging Ready For a Unionized Workforce?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 05:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is Blogging Ready For a Unionized Workforce? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: unions blog&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Should There be a Bloggers Union</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-2618388</link>
		<dc:creator>unions blog&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Should There be a Bloggers Union</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to TechCrunch , &#8220;Most people contributing to new media sites, including user generated sites such as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bloggers want to Strike&#8230;readers go elsewhere &#171; Connected</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-2317319</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloggers want to Strike&#8230;readers go elsewhere &#171; Connected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 00:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] definitely did a double take this morning when TechCrunch provide a post discussing a recent WSJ article about “a coalition of left-wing bloggers trying to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nmrg - blog from the new media research group in RIMAD at the University of Bedfordshire. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-08-17</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1636700</link>
		<dc:creator>nmrg - blog from the new media research group in RIMAD at the University of Bedfordshire. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-08-17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is Blogging Ready For a Unionized Workforce? (tags: economics web2.0 precarity digital_white_flight) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Crónica veraniega</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1570252</link>
		<dc:creator>Crónica veraniega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] noticia polémica del Wall Street Journal: los bloggers estaban considerando formar un sindicato (comentario también en TechCrunch). Y es que esta fuerza de producción de contenidos parece realmente desprotegida, sea cual sea su [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] noticia polémica del Wall Street Journal: los bloggers estaban considerando formar un sindicato (comentario también en TechCrunch). Y es que esta fuerza de producción de contenidos parece realmente desprotegida, sea cual sea su [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ¿Comisiones Blogueras? &#124; Mangas Verdes</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1563824</link>
		<dc:creator>¿Comisiones Blogueras? &#124; Mangas Verdes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] entrada de Enrique Dans: la idea de poner en marcha un sindicato de bloggers. Excelente tema para un debate. Ahora mismo no puedo profundizar, pero en principio estoy bastante de acuerdo con la posición de [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] entrada de Enrique Dans: la idea de poner en marcha un sindicato de bloggers. Excelente tema para un debate. Ahora mismo no puedo profundizar, pero en principio estoy bastante de acuerdo con la posición de [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechDumpster &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Blogging Ready for a Retarded Workforce?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1561679</link>
		<dc:creator>TechDumpster &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Blogging Ready for a Retarded Workforce?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not to like about communism? Our favorite blogtard Duncan Riley writes another eloquent post about whether bloggers should unionize. While his conclusion is that it won&#8217;t happen because of the supply of labor, there are a few [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not to like about communism? Our favorite blogtard Duncan Riley writes another eloquent post about whether bloggers should unionize. While his conclusion is that it won&#8217;t happen because of the supply of labor, there are a few [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sutcliffe</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1555474</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Sutcliffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morons like this are the reason the Western world is starting to decay. For technical people that is one truly stupid idea.</description>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1553916</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sindicato de Bloggers ? Para q?
Para q empiece a haber corrupcion donde, por ahora, no la hay ?
Para q una par de sindicos se llenen los bolsillos con el trabajo de toda la blogsfera?
Para seguir creando puestos de trabajos para delincuentes y holgazanes ?
Para q un grupo de matones ignorantes nos digan que, como y cuando bloggear?
Si ahora no se garantiza la libertad de expresion de los blogs, con un sindicato, mucho menos…Q pasaria si uno quiere bloggear contra el sindicato o contra las empresas o entes con los que el sindicato tiene negocios o acuerdos?
Si se reune un grupo de bloggers disconformes con la politica del sindicato de bloggers y forma un sindicato paralelo a fin de captar a todos los disconformes, empezariamos con multiples fracturas irreconciliables en la blogsfera, pero esta vez por razones politicas, lo q llevaria a la desunion total, como lo vemos cada dia en el escenario politico de nuestros respectivos paises.
La idea es malisima y obviamente viene de un Norteamericano, terroristas mundiales, asesinos de mujeres y niños, piratas del petroleo, usurpadores de soberanias, golpistas y confabuladores en tierras extrajeras, creadores de asesinos seriales, sociopatas y parias.
Q mas se puede esperar de gente asi q la creacion de un sindicato?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sindicato de Bloggers ? Para q?<br />
Para q empiece a haber corrupcion donde, por ahora, no la hay ?<br />
Para q una par de sindicos se llenen los bolsillos con el trabajo de toda la blogsfera?<br />
Para seguir creando puestos de trabajos para delincuentes y holgazanes ?<br />
Para q un grupo de matones ignorantes nos digan que, como y cuando bloggear?<br />
Si ahora no se garantiza la libertad de expresion de los blogs, con un sindicato, mucho menos…Q pasaria si uno quiere bloggear contra el sindicato o contra las empresas o entes con los que el sindicato tiene negocios o acuerdos?<br />
Si se reune un grupo de bloggers disconformes con la politica del sindicato de bloggers y forma un sindicato paralelo a fin de captar a todos los disconformes, empezariamos con multiples fracturas irreconciliables en la blogsfera, pero esta vez por razones politicas, lo q llevaria a la desunion total, como lo vemos cada dia en el escenario politico de nuestros respectivos paises.<br />
La idea es malisima y obviamente viene de un Norteamericano, terroristas mundiales, asesinos de mujeres y niños, piratas del petroleo, usurpadores de soberanias, golpistas y confabuladores en tierras extrajeras, creadores de asesinos seriales, sociopatas y parias.<br />
Q mas se puede esperar de gente asi q la creacion de un sindicato?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1542509</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two fundamental flaws with this idea.

One.  Most bloggers are independent contractors.  You must be and employee to be represented by a union.  This is a federal law.  And you will probably have an easier time changing the law than your employment status.  

Two.  There are so many people who write and want their words to be read that there is a limitless supply of strikebreakers available.  Most bloggers are easily replaceable.  Their words are more valuable to them than anyone else (harsh reality).  The only way not to get dumped in a labor dispute is to build up a large personal following.  But if you&#039;ve already done that you can achieve the same results by threatening to take your words elsewhere.  So if you are really good, you don&#039;t need the union.  And good is defined not by the quality of your writing but by your ability to make a large number of people actually care about your writing and to want more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two fundamental flaws with this idea.</p>
<p>One.  Most bloggers are independent contractors.  You must be and employee to be represented by a union.  This is a federal law.  And you will probably have an easier time changing the law than your employment status.  </p>
<p>Two.  There are so many people who write and want their words to be read that there is a limitless supply of strikebreakers available.  Most bloggers are easily replaceable.  Their words are more valuable to them than anyone else (harsh reality).  The only way not to get dumped in a labor dispute is to build up a large personal following.  But if you&#8217;ve already done that you can achieve the same results by threatening to take your words elsewhere.  So if you are really good, you don&#8217;t need the union.  And good is defined not by the quality of your writing but by your ability to make a large number of people actually care about your writing and to want more.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1542442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloggers deserve health care? My god, from who? Blogspot? I don&#039;t think any more than 5% of the blogs out there, and less than 50% of the popular ones, are even networks ... the blogger is the boss on the most of these and a lot don&#039;t have more than one contributor.

I say go for it, I know Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, parts of India and South Africa are just waiting for the chance to replace the American bloggers who try to get healthcare from a site that earns less than a taxi driver.

This is insane, the whole idea of the internet is you don&#039;t need to be at the whim of corporations, you don&#039;t need lots of money or a degree to start your own blog, there isn&#039;t bags of red tap to wade through like starting a small business ... you really can just do it yourself, if your current blogging network/editor isn&#039;t paying enough, just start your own, it would take less than 2 hours to do so!

Why are they trying to bureaucratize the internet? The whole point of the internet and its success is the lack of bureaucrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloggers deserve health care? My god, from who? Blogspot? I don&#8217;t think any more than 5% of the blogs out there, and less than 50% of the popular ones, are even networks &#8230; the blogger is the boss on the most of these and a lot don&#8217;t have more than one contributor.</p>
<p>I say go for it, I know Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, parts of India and South Africa are just waiting for the chance to replace the American bloggers who try to get healthcare from a site that earns less than a taxi driver.</p>
<p>This is insane, the whole idea of the internet is you don&#8217;t need to be at the whim of corporations, you don&#8217;t need lots of money or a degree to start your own blog, there isn&#8217;t bags of red tap to wade through like starting a small business &#8230; you really can just do it yourself, if your current blogging network/editor isn&#8217;t paying enough, just start your own, it would take less than 2 hours to do so!</p>
<p>Why are they trying to bureaucratize the internet? The whole point of the internet and its success is the lack of bureaucrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Sources</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1542263</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Sources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Top 10 Reasons We Should Join a Labor Union for Blogs...&lt;/strong&gt;


&#8220;Whadda ya&#8217; mean y&#8217;use didn &#8216;t Digg my post?&#8221;
A group of highly-naive bloggers have discussed forming a union for bloggers. On the surface this is a painfully dumb idea. But maybe we should take a second look at it. Some ...</description>
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<p>&#8220;Whadda ya&#8217; mean y&#8217;use didn &#8216;t Digg my post?&#8221;<br />
A group of highly-naive bloggers have discussed forming a union for bloggers. On the surface this is a painfully dumb idea. But maybe we should take a second look at it. Some &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Swanson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1541797</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 06:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Warren Meyer hits the nail on this issue (http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/08/bloggers-union.html).  This isn&#039;t so much about creating a useful organization to represent individuals, but rather about bragging rights at cocktail parties.

Aside from time, the barriers to entry and start-up capital in this industry are effectively zero point nada.  If you know that everyone and their cousin is capable of entering this market, what exactly is there to complain about?

Don&#039;t think you are getting paid enough?  Wish you could get rich quick?  Holding your breath for a new car?  Uhh, trying to be a professional blogger is probably not the best industry for you to spend much time in.

[Note: this is not directed at anyone but unionists]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Warren Meyer hits the nail on this issue (<a href="http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/08/bloggers-union.html)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2007/08/bloggers-union.html'>http://www.coyo...gers-union.html</a>).  This isn&#8217;t so much about creating a useful organization to represent individuals, but rather about bragging rights at cocktail parties.</p>
<p>Aside from time, the barriers to entry and start-up capital in this industry are effectively zero point nada.  If you know that everyone and their cousin is capable of entering this market, what exactly is there to complain about?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think you are getting paid enough?  Wish you could get rich quick?  Holding your breath for a new car?  Uhh, trying to be a professional blogger is probably not the best industry for you to spend much time in.</p>
<p>[Note: this is not directed at anyone but unionists]</p>
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		<title>By: NewTeeVee Solidarity in the Vlogosphere a Pipe Dream? &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1541761</link>
		<dc:creator>NewTeeVee Solidarity in the Vlogosphere a Pipe Dream? &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than traditional media businesses. But as long as there is non-union competition willing to scab, TechCrunch&#8217;s Duncan Riley points out, content buyers will always be able to set the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] than traditional media businesses. But as long as there is non-union competition willing to scab, TechCrunch&#8217;s Duncan Riley points out, content buyers will always be able to set the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1541678</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unions are an archaic relic from yesteryear.  Back when you had child labor and unsafe working conditions I could see a point for unions.  But these days?  Unless you&#039;re in the meat packing business, which I hear has some of the worst working conditions of any industry, unions are way past due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unions are an archaic relic from yesteryear.  Back when you had child labor and unsafe working conditions I could see a point for unions.  But these days?  Unless you&#8217;re in the meat packing business, which I hear has some of the worst working conditions of any industry, unions are way past due.</p>
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		<title>By: isedb.com</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1541497</link>
		<dc:creator>isedb.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is Blogging Ready For a Unionized Workforce?...&lt;/strong&gt;

A coalition of left-wing bloggers is trying to form a labor union that they hope will help them receive health insurance, conduct collective bargaining and set professional standards....</description>
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<p>A coalition of left-wing bloggers is trying to form a labor union that they hope will help them receive health insurance, conduct collective bargaining and set professional standards&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: andy fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like anything leftist, this will
 (a) probably not work
 (b) only help those in charge (yet again) 

Or  (c) be something that some sh*tbag pothead talks to you about all night at some party in the Haight that you didn&#039;t want to go to but your friend promised they would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like anything leftist, this will<br />
 (a) probably not work<br />
 (b) only help those in charge (yet again) </p>
<p>Or  (c) be something that some sh*tbag pothead talks to you about all night at some party in the Haight that you didn&#8217;t want to go to but your friend promised they would.</p>
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		<title>By: Tish Grier</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1541231</link>
		<dc:creator>Tish Grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just remembered:  there&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediabloggers.org/node&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Media Bloggers Association&lt;/a&gt; which is kinda-sorta-a union.  MBA helped a group of bloggers get credentials to cover the Scooter Libby Trial.  Yes, some of those bloggers were high profile, but some of them weren&#039;t.  

The MBA really isn&#039;t all that concerned about wages though--I think their sentiment is that wage-earning is up to us to figure out.  They&#039;re more about &quot;blogger&#039;s rights&quot; and protection from false libel claims, as well as fairness and transparency.

Quite frankly, given the number of tech conferences that are all of a sudden limiting the number of press creds they give out (NOT to most bloggers--but lots to what they consider &quot;working&quot; journalists) we might need a credentialling arm more than we might need a wage-fighting arm.

(and yes, I&#039;m an MBA member)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just remembered:  there&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.mediabloggers.org/node" rel="nofollow">Media Bloggers Association</a> which is kinda-sorta-a union.  MBA helped a group of bloggers get credentials to cover the Scooter Libby Trial.  Yes, some of those bloggers were high profile, but some of them weren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>The MBA really isn&#8217;t all that concerned about wages though&#8211;I think their sentiment is that wage-earning is up to us to figure out.  They&#8217;re more about &#8220;blogger&#8217;s rights&#8221; and protection from false libel claims, as well as fairness and transparency.</p>
<p>Quite frankly, given the number of tech conferences that are all of a sudden limiting the number of press creds they give out (NOT to most bloggers&#8211;but lots to what they consider &#8220;working&#8221; journalists) we might need a credentialling arm more than we might need a wage-fighting arm.</p>
<p>(and yes, I&#8217;m an MBA member)</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1541065</link>
		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rover

Not sure what your comment has to do with Unionizing Bloggers? 

There are many other, more profitable, ways to monetize a site other than Google.

Google is the at the end of my backfill chain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rover</p>
<p>Not sure what your comment has to do with Unionizing Bloggers? </p>
<p>There are many other, more profitable, ways to monetize a site other than Google.</p>
<p>Google is the at the end of my backfill chain</p>
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		<title>By: TechDumpster (living in First Life)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechDumpster (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan wants unionization because he&#039;s afraid of being fired from TechCrunch.

Seriously though:

1. Unionization limits supply meaning consumers are hurt

2. Blogs don&#039;t generate that much money so there&#039;s no reason to have minimum wages and benefits for bloggers

3. Bloggers can start their own blog if they&#039;re unhappy with their pay.  The barriers to entry are extremely low.

Read TechDumpster for a more detailed discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan wants unionization because he&#8217;s afraid of being fired from TechCrunch.</p>
<p>Seriously though:</p>
<p>1. Unionization limits supply meaning consumers are hurt</p>
<p>2. Blogs don&#8217;t generate that much money so there&#8217;s no reason to have minimum wages and benefits for bloggers</p>
<p>3. Bloggers can start their own blog if they&#8217;re unhappy with their pay.  The barriers to entry are extremely low.</p>
<p>Read TechDumpster for a more detailed discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, two Google-related issues are overlooked:

1) AdSense (the bread and butter of many bloggers) is not disclosing the % of compensation going to the sites. They should be forced to disclose how much they pay.

2) We should be allowed to specify (in robots.txt or otherwise) how to treat excerpts from our sites. Using them in search engine is fine. But Google is shamelessly using structural information and photos culled from blogs in its own products (like restaurant search in Google maps). Bloggers who collected the info and took photos get no money and in almost all cases, no clicks! At the very least, they should be allowed to say whether or not their information should be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, two Google-related issues are overlooked:</p>
<p>1) AdSense (the bread and butter of many bloggers) is not disclosing the % of compensation going to the sites. They should be forced to disclose how much they pay.</p>
<p>2) We should be allowed to specify (in robots.txt or otherwise) how to treat excerpts from our sites. Using them in search engine is fine. But Google is shamelessly using structural information and photos culled from blogs in its own products (like restaurant search in Google maps). Bloggers who collected the info and took photos get no money and in almost all cases, no clicks! At the very least, they should be allowed to say whether or not their information should be there.</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/05/is-blogging-ready-for-a-unionized-workforce/comment-page-1/#comment-1540917</link>
		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unionizing bloggers is a stupid notion, since anyone can start a blog and get writing.  

If you are a &quot;professional&quot; blogger who is working for the&quot;man&quot; and are feeling oppressed, what to do?  

If your writing stands up and you create compelling content, your audience will grow, so why write for someone else? 

Start your own website &quot;blog&quot; and you will make ALL the income, of course that does come with risks and costs such as hosting, design, SEO etc...

This is what I did, I write, program and produce my site. I spend a LOT of time tweaking the site code and design.   

I do get to keep my earning and I do what I want on the site, in turn it pays my rent.  But is took a long time to get there. 

Stop whining, if you don&#039;t like writing for nothing or for the man, do your own thing.  That is the American way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unionizing bloggers is a stupid notion, since anyone can start a blog and get writing.  </p>
<p>If you are a &#8220;professional&#8221; blogger who is working for the&#8221;man&#8221; and are feeling oppressed, what to do?  </p>
<p>If your writing stands up and you create compelling content, your audience will grow, so why write for someone else? </p>
<p>Start your own website &#8220;blog&#8221; and you will make ALL the income, of course that does come with risks and costs such as hosting, design, SEO etc&#8230;</p>
<p>This is what I did, I write, program and produce my site. I spend a LOT of time tweaking the site code and design.   </p>
<p>I do get to keep my earning and I do what I want on the site, in turn it pays my rent.  But is took a long time to get there. </p>
<p>Stop whining, if you don&#8217;t like writing for nothing or for the man, do your own thing.  That is the American way.</p>
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		<title>By: Janko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how predictable some folks are. Unions = China. Hahaha. Just don&#039;t tell that activists who risk their freedom whild doing some real labor organizing in China ...

As far as paid blogging goes - I think a Union could be really valuable, but you might have to rethink of what a Union would do for a mostly self-employed, subcontracted workforce. There are a lot of service elements that could eventually lead to organizing.

One example: I&#039;m a member of the German Verdi union that offers freelancers a simple online forum to anonymously post their wages, which proves to be a great tool for negotiations. I bet writers of a certain big US-based entertainment blog wouldn&#039;t endure writing 100 posts per month for 1000 dollars if they knew how much people got paid at other blogs ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how predictable some folks are. Unions = China. Hahaha. Just don&#8217;t tell that activists who risk their freedom whild doing some real labor organizing in China &#8230;</p>
<p>As far as paid blogging goes &#8211; I think a Union could be really valuable, but you might have to rethink of what a Union would do for a mostly self-employed, subcontracted workforce. There are a lot of service elements that could eventually lead to organizing.</p>
<p>One example: I&#8217;m a member of the German Verdi union that offers freelancers a simple online forum to anonymously post their wages, which proves to be a great tool for negotiations. I bet writers of a certain big US-based entertainment blog wouldn&#8217;t endure writing 100 posts per month for 1000 dollars if they knew how much people got paid at other blogs &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reggeli Karma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reggeli Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogger-szakszervezet...&lt;/strong&gt;

Néhány balos (értsd: demokrata) amerikai blogger azon munkálkodik nagy serényen, hogy valamilyen szakszervezet-szerűt hozzanak létre, amelyik amellett, hogy lefektetné a &quot;szakmai standardokat&quot;, még a társadalombiztosítási jogviszo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Blogger-szakszervezet&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Néhány balos (értsd: demokrata) amerikai blogger azon munkálkodik nagy serényen, hogy valamilyen szakszervezet-szerűt hozzanak létre, amelyik amellett, hogy lefektetné a &quot;szakmai standardokat&quot;, még a társadalombiztosítási jogviszo&#8230;</p>
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