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	<title>Comments on: FCC Fails To Mark Its Place In History</title>
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		<title>By: Settlement</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-2571010</link>
		<dc:creator>Settlement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its was great to see a compromise was reached, what Google wanted would benefit us all the end result is that by Google getting involved they did force some concessions that otherwise wouldnt have been made. This also helps Googles ‘do no evil’ image as they wanted things open for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its was great to see a compromise was reached, what Google wanted would benefit us all the end result is that by Google getting involved they did force some concessions that otherwise wouldnt have been made. This also helps Googles ‘do no evil’ image as they wanted things open for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Terbaik.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: FCC Confirms that Big Winner in Spectrum Auction is Verizon. So Why Is Google Smiling?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-2049589</link>
		<dc:creator>Terbaik.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Breaking: FCC Confirms that Big Winner in Spectrum Auction is Verizon. So Why Is Google Smiling?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the minimum $4.6 billion that would trigger open device and open application rules that it had lobbied for, but nobody seriously thought it actually wanted to win the auction. Building out and operating [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the minimum $4.6 billion that would trigger open device and open application rules that it had lobbied for, but nobody seriously thought it actually wanted to win the auction. Building out and operating [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wireless Spectrum Auction is Over For Coveted C-Block. But Who Won, Google or Verizon?</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1955466</link>
		<dc:creator>Wireless Spectrum Auction is Over For Coveted C-Block. But Who Won, Google or Verizon?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for the coveted C-block of spectrum, which is a nationwide license and is subject to special open-device/application rules, was won by a $4.7 billion bid—just a smidgen above the $4.6 billion minimum required by the FCC. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for the coveted C-block of spectrum, which is a nationwide license and is subject to special open-device/application rules, was won by a $4.7 billion bid—just a smidgen above the $4.6 billion minimum required by the FCC. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The OPLIN 4cast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OPLIN 4cast #66</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1835794</link>
		<dc:creator>The OPLIN 4cast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OPLIN 4cast #66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FCC Fails To Mark Its Place In History (TechCrunch) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Google To Announce Wireless Spectrum Bid Friday</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1800503</link>
		<dc:creator>Google To Announce Wireless Spectrum Bid Friday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FCC only adopted two of Google&#8217;s recommendations when it released the terms for the auction July 31, with support for open applications and open devices, but with no requirement for open services or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FCC only adopted two of Google&#8217;s recommendations when it released the terms for the auction July 31, with support for open applications and open devices, but with no requirement for open services or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; FCC Gives Google Two Out Of Four &#187; InsideGoogle &#187; part of the Blog News Channel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1533536</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; FCC Gives Google Two Out Of Four &#187; InsideGoogle &#187; part of the Blog News Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The FCC issued the rules for the 700 MHz spectrum auction, electing not to follow Google&#8217;s $4.6 billion ultimatum. They did give Google half of what it got, siding half with the young tech firm that wants to bring the open spirit of the internet to wireless devices (and profit handsomely) and half with the old-school telecoms that want to close everything down and overcharge consumers in a monopoly (and profit handsomely). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The FCC issued the rules for the 700 MHz spectrum auction, electing not to follow Google&#8217;s $4.6 billion ultimatum. They did give Google half of what it got, siding half with the young tech firm that wants to bring the open spirit of the internet to wireless devices (and profit handsomely) and half with the old-school telecoms that want to close everything down and overcharge consumers in a monopoly (and profit handsomely). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David H. Deans</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1531932</link>
		<dc:creator>David H. Deans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Nelson&#039;s comments are a subset of the storyline that the CTIA was spinning in Washington for several weeks. The U.S. mobile service provider status quo is fueled by calculated &#039;restraint of trade&#039; business practices -- and that&#039;s no myth.

The CTIA members (including Verizon) have selective memory recall -- when comparing the U.S. model to the global market leaders, they make no mention of the locked phones that can&#039;t be switched between service providers, or the two year contracts with heavy penalties, or the &#039;walled garden&#039; service delivery platforms that inhibit value-added service innovation from independent developers, etc.

Clearly, the U.S. market really needed a quantum leap in policy transformation to change the current restrictive status quo -- full &quot;open access&quot; policy would have given the U.S. a fighting chance to catch up to the global market leaders. The FCC&#039;s decision will help the cause of the shackled U.S. consumer, but it won&#039;t turn the tide on wireless application innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Nelson&#8217;s comments are a subset of the storyline that the CTIA was spinning in Washington for several weeks. The U.S. mobile service provider status quo is fueled by calculated &#8216;restraint of trade&#8217; business practices &#8212; and that&#8217;s no myth.</p>
<p>The CTIA members (including Verizon) have selective memory recall &#8212; when comparing the U.S. model to the global market leaders, they make no mention of the locked phones that can&#8217;t be switched between service providers, or the two year contracts with heavy penalties, or the &#8216;walled garden&#8217; service delivery platforms that inhibit value-added service innovation from independent developers, etc.</p>
<p>Clearly, the U.S. market really needed a quantum leap in policy transformation to change the current restrictive status quo &#8212; full &#8220;open access&#8221; policy would have given the U.S. a fighting chance to catch up to the global market leaders. The FCC&#8217;s decision will help the cause of the shackled U.S. consumer, but it won&#8217;t turn the tide on wireless application innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Removing All Doubt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1531495</link>
		<dc:creator>Removing All Doubt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google and Rock, Paper, Scissors...&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, some people think Google is bluffing, and have no intention of entering the auction. I doubt that, although to disclose how much they are willing to bid is certainly an odd move. Its most likely a bit of game theory. If I&#039;m playing rock, paper,....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Google and Rock, Paper, Scissors&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Well, some people think Google is bluffing, and have no intention of entering the auction. I doubt that, although to disclose how much they are willing to bid is certainly an odd move. Its most likely a bit of game theory. If I&#8217;m playing rock, paper,&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Geek Speaker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1531285</link>
		<dc:creator>Geek Speaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my entry on techmeme for more info. Basically I feel thankful to Google for going to bat for us, but I want to point out that Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo will all probably be bidding because the next race for advertising will take place in the car, where more money is spent than on the internet. 

The spectrum was owned by ABC, NBC, and CBS and so on before, why would we put a middle man in the picture, worst yet, a telco??? This makes no sense! We need open open open open so that innovation rules the future. Innovation will build the pipes telco-joe! Innovation is a water cooler joke and 90 percent of the telcos, there is no value in the connection itself, but the quality of services that are delivered on it. That&#039;s like the plumber getting a cut on my water bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my entry on techmeme for more info. Basically I feel thankful to Google for going to bat for us, but I want to point out that Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo will all probably be bidding because the next race for advertising will take place in the car, where more money is spent than on the internet. </p>
<p>The spectrum was owned by ABC, NBC, and CBS and so on before, why would we put a middle man in the picture, worst yet, a telco??? This makes no sense! We need open open open open so that innovation rules the future. Innovation will build the pipes telco-joe! Innovation is a water cooler joke and 90 percent of the telcos, there is no value in the connection itself, but the quality of services that are delivered on it. That&#8217;s like the plumber getting a cut on my water bill.</p>
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		<title>By: TIA Telecommunities &#187; And So It Goes</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1531122</link>
		<dc:creator>TIA Telecommunities &#187; And So It Goes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of TechCrunch, who supported Google&#8217;s position, calls the Commission&#8217;s decision &#8220;a feeble attempt to stand up to AT&amp;T, Verizon and their army of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of TechCrunch, who supported Google&#8217;s position, calls the Commission&#8217;s decision &#8220;a feeble attempt to stand up to AT&#38;T, Verizon and their army of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1530992</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History will see the FCC decision and the FCC en mas for that matter, in the same light as 1930&#039;s Chicago - hopelessly corrupt. And the big telcos playing the part of Al Capone.

&quot;...True greatness is measured by how much freedom you give to others, not by how much you can coerce others to do what you want.&quot;
--Larry Wall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History will see the FCC decision and the FCC en mas for that matter, in the same light as 1930&#8217;s Chicago &#8211; hopelessly corrupt. And the big telcos playing the part of Al Capone.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;True greatness is measured by how much freedom you give to others, not by how much you can coerce others to do what you want.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Larry Wall</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1530437</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um.  First just to offer post continuity, SMS in Europe certainly benefited from high costs of voice - if you want to convince the telcoms guys you aren&#039;t retarded, don&#039;t act retarded.

BUT REALLY, can somebody clue me in to the difference between an application and a service?  

It strikes me that EVERY thid party application on an open device is by definition an open service. VOIP, chat, location, etc.

As long as individuals pay for the bandwidth it doesn&#039;t look like someone gets to lock down anything on either side of the transport layer.  As the contrapositive, see iPhone it is locked by apple on both sides of the radio.

I think the telcos are already stunned by this Bush FCC decision - cellular just saw cost-per-minute drop to under 3 cents.

Not to pee in y&#039;alls pool... but I thought it was disingenuous for Google to seek wholesale rates - before it would bid - huh? Like, ensure we don&#039;t have to win and can therefore buy wholesale bandwidth, so we don&#039;t have to bid, and for the trouble, we&#039;ll put up a number we&#039;re sure the other guys will outpay, so we go home happy losers - with our $4.6B in our pockets.

Mike c&#039;mon. Logic above loyalty - even to the web.

It actually smells like a company afraid to trade half of it&#039;s $12B in cash  (easily + buildout) to buy spectrum. Maybe it ain&#039;t that big a dog.  Maybe it wa serious it shoulda asked MSFT for help.  

Maybe it&#039;s time to notice the market cap on niche advertising in the long tail, just ran dead into the 3rd quarter wall (ie the value of human attention seeking nich content). maybe adwords/sense can&#039;t grow exponentially - cause well, not enough people use the web to find the stuff in those crazy search server logs tp justify 11 cents a search.  Maybe, repeating history, Cuban just shorted Yahoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um.  First just to offer post continuity, SMS in Europe certainly benefited from high costs of voice &#8211; if you want to convince the telcoms guys you aren&#8217;t retarded, don&#8217;t act retarded.</p>
<p>BUT REALLY, can somebody clue me in to the difference between an application and a service?  </p>
<p>It strikes me that EVERY thid party application on an open device is by definition an open service. VOIP, chat, location, etc.</p>
<p>As long as individuals pay for the bandwidth it doesn&#8217;t look like someone gets to lock down anything on either side of the transport layer.  As the contrapositive, see iPhone it is locked by apple on both sides of the radio.</p>
<p>I think the telcos are already stunned by this Bush FCC decision &#8211; cellular just saw cost-per-minute drop to under 3 cents.</p>
<p>Not to pee in y&#8217;alls pool&#8230; but I thought it was disingenuous for Google to seek wholesale rates &#8211; before it would bid &#8211; huh? Like, ensure we don&#8217;t have to win and can therefore buy wholesale bandwidth, so we don&#8217;t have to bid, and for the trouble, we&#8217;ll put up a number we&#8217;re sure the other guys will outpay, so we go home happy losers &#8211; with our $4.6B in our pockets.</p>
<p>Mike c&#8217;mon. Logic above loyalty &#8211; even to the web.</p>
<p>It actually smells like a company afraid to trade half of it&#8217;s $12B in cash  (easily + buildout) to buy spectrum. Maybe it ain&#8217;t that big a dog.  Maybe it wa serious it shoulda asked MSFT for help.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time to notice the market cap on niche advertising in the long tail, just ran dead into the 3rd quarter wall (ie the value of human attention seeking nich content). maybe adwords/sense can&#8217;t grow exponentially &#8211; cause well, not enough people use the web to find the stuff in those crazy search server logs tp justify 11 cents a search.  Maybe, repeating history, Cuban just shorted Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: smash</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1530249</link>
		<dc:creator>smash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 06:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeffrey Nelson

&quot;it’s why SMS took off first in Europe - not because it was so cheap or advanced, but because it cost too damn much to make a call.&quot;

that comment is absurd. SMS is far more efficient to get burst communication across. no time (read $) wasted on pointless greetings, catch-ups, etc, just state your message and youre done. replies are done in the same manner. the information flow is also done *without having to tie up both parties at the same time*. and no, voicemail is not equally convenient thanks to dialing in and menu navigation. SMS is not just financially beneficial, its time and effort efficient.

you work for a communication company and don&#039;t realize something as basic as this?

no wonder US telcoms got their heads up their !@&amp;$#...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeffrey Nelson</p>
<p>&#8220;it’s why SMS took off first in Europe &#8211; not because it was so cheap or advanced, but because it cost too damn much to make a call.&#8221;</p>
<p>that comment is absurd. SMS is far more efficient to get burst communication across. no time (read $) wasted on pointless greetings, catch-ups, etc, just state your message and youre done. replies are done in the same manner. the information flow is also done *without having to tie up both parties at the same time*. and no, voicemail is not equally convenient thanks to dialing in and menu navigation. SMS is not just financially beneficial, its time and effort efficient.</p>
<p>you work for a communication company and don&#8217;t realize something as basic as this?</p>
<p>no wonder US telcoms got their heads up their !@&amp;$#&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1530158</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffrey Nelson: Open and free &gt; cheap and hemmed in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey Nelson: Open and free &gt; cheap and hemmed in.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1530010</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty clear what&#039;s going to happen from here - the incumbants will do everything they can to prevent Google from winning the auction, should Google decide to bid.

Yeah, it&#039;s an anonymous auction, but I&#039;d suspect that some form of collusion will take place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear what&#8217;s going to happen from here &#8211; the incumbants will do everything they can to prevent Google from winning the auction, should Google decide to bid.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s an anonymous auction, but I&#8217;d suspect that some form of collusion will take place.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Storm</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1529993</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@4 Wonketter...

Republicans and Democrats might as well be the same thing when it comes to these issues. What we need is politicians who understand the power of a free market. Libertarians, or old-school liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4 Wonketter&#8230;</p>
<p>Republicans and Democrats might as well be the same thing when it comes to these issues. What we need is politicians who understand the power of a free market. Libertarians, or old-school liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhishek Tiwari</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1529980</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek Tiwari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rise of GoogNet &#8212; Part 3, Well Sort Of&#8230;...&lt;/strong&gt;


Most of you know about the FCC auction of 700 MHZ spectrum. I covered it in a previous post. Google had thrown the gauntlet in the game and asked FCC to include following conditions in the auction rules:

Open Apps
Open Devices
Open Services
Open Netw...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rise of GoogNet &#8212; Part 3, Well Sort Of&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Most of you know about the FCC auction of 700 MHZ spectrum. I covered it in a previous post. Google had thrown the gauntlet in the game and asked FCC to include following conditions in the auction rules:</p>
<p>Open Apps<br />
Open Devices<br />
Open Services<br />
Open Netw&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Wolff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Wolff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@adam/10: &quot;I am sure none of us would want to work hard building a house and than have someone tell you that you have to rent it at a lower price than you could get.&quot;

but it wouldn&#039;t be too bad if you knew the rental rates before you bought the land and built the house. you&#039;d know what to build to make money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@adam/10: &#8220;I am sure none of us would want to work hard building a house and than have someone tell you that you have to rent it at a lower price than you could get.&#8221;</p>
<p>but it wouldn&#8217;t be too bad if you knew the rental rates before you bought the land and built the house. you&#8217;d know what to build to make money.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two out of four is better than I expected.</description>
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		<title>By: Rowan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1529676</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeffrey Nelson

&quot;In Europe, you pay an average of 22cents/minute to TALK on your mobile phone vs. 7cents in the US.&quot;

But outside the US you don&#039;t pay for calls you receive, so a fairer comparison would be 11c to 7c for an average minute of conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeffrey Nelson</p>
<p>&#8220;In Europe, you pay an average of 22cents/minute to TALK on your mobile phone vs. 7cents in the US.&#8221;</p>
<p>But outside the US you don&#8217;t pay for calls you receive, so a fairer comparison would be 11c to 7c for an average minute of conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian your absolutely right.  Google can now easily buy the spectrum and run their part anyway they want too, but it will cost billions of dollars to build an infrastructure.  Everyone wants something for free, and in a capitalist society no less.  

If you want it done right the government should rent out the spectrum and allow anyone to use it.  But companies would still have have to build their own infrastructure to do it.  This would level the playing field to anyone who has the resources to build out a network... Google, Apple, MSFT, and such.  

I am sure none of us would want to work hard building a house and than have someone tell you that you have to rent it at a lower price than you could get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian your absolutely right.  Google can now easily buy the spectrum and run their part anyway they want too, but it will cost billions of dollars to build an infrastructure.  Everyone wants something for free, and in a capitalist society no less.  </p>
<p>If you want it done right the government should rent out the spectrum and allow anyone to use it.  But companies would still have have to build their own infrastructure to do it.  This would level the playing field to anyone who has the resources to build out a network&#8230; Google, Apple, MSFT, and such.  </p>
<p>I am sure none of us would want to work hard building a house and than have someone tell you that you have to rent it at a lower price than you could get.</p>
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		<title>By: Joaquin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joaquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post, but your assertion that Kevin Martin is willing to fight for openness is not accurate.  Had he actually been willing (as he proclaimed during his visit to Silicon Valley) the vote would have been 3 (Martin, Adelstein, Copps) to 2 (Tate, McDowell) to really open things up.  Martin is just a much better politician – which is a good thing, since that is what he wants to do with his future.  After today’s vote, Martin should have the solid backing of the telcos for his political career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, but your assertion that Kevin Martin is willing to fight for openness is not accurate.  Had he actually been willing (as he proclaimed during his visit to Silicon Valley) the vote would have been 3 (Martin, Adelstein, Copps) to 2 (Tate, McDowell) to really open things up.  Martin is just a much better politician – which is a good thing, since that is what he wants to do with his future.  After today’s vote, Martin should have the solid backing of the telcos for his political career.</p>
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		<title>By: cdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FCC is totally irrelevant and unnecessary .

if america was actually a free country, and the right to use frequencies didn&#039;t have to be purchased from the govt thered be a spread-spectrum free-for-all and we&#039;d already be browsing at a a few mb a second from iphones by now.. sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FCC is totally irrelevant and unnecessary .</p>
<p>if america was actually a free country, and the right to use frequencies didn&#8217;t have to be purchased from the govt thered be a spread-spectrum free-for-all and we&#8217;d already be browsing at a a few mb a second from iphones by now.. sad</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
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		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@10: How about Asia, then?</description>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/31/fcc-fails-to-mark-their-place-in-history/comment-page-1/#comment-1529520</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What incentive would companies have to build out networks if they are totally open?&quot;

The public interest, who owns the spectrum in the first place. Crazy idea, I know, doing things to benefit the user. Spotty coverage might not be such an issue if the carriers were all upgrading the same network instead of each of them having a separate one. I guess those Verizon &quot;those people? my network&quot; commercials wouldn&#039;t be as snappy if all providers had to share the same quality. Imagine that, separate networks provide differences that are then used by marketing to distinguish themselves from their competitors. So we have a company charging their users first to upgrade their proprietary infrastructure, and then again to advertise the differences of their networks! How ever would they maintain their current rates and employee numbers if this distinction was removed from the equation?

How much 700MHz infrastructure has been rolled out so far? Is it really billions of dollars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What incentive would companies have to build out networks if they are totally open?&#8221;</p>
<p>The public interest, who owns the spectrum in the first place. Crazy idea, I know, doing things to benefit the user. Spotty coverage might not be such an issue if the carriers were all upgrading the same network instead of each of them having a separate one. I guess those Verizon &#8220;those people? my network&#8221; commercials wouldn&#8217;t be as snappy if all providers had to share the same quality. Imagine that, separate networks provide differences that are then used by marketing to distinguish themselves from their competitors. So we have a company charging their users first to upgrade their proprietary infrastructure, and then again to advertise the differences of their networks! How ever would they maintain their current rates and employee numbers if this distinction was removed from the equation?</p>
<p>How much 700MHz infrastructure has been rolled out so far? Is it really billions of dollars?</p>
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