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		<title>By: The Industry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Ontology</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-2513149</link>
		<dc:creator>The Industry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Ontology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and drug pushers call their respective audiences &#8220;users&#8221;. Today I see a related meme going around; some pundits are imploring each other to stop calling everyone [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Are you a user? : The Content Factory</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1647761</link>
		<dc:creator>Are you a user? : The Content Factory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Long Live The User   July 27, 2007 &#124; Filed Under Business, Internet&#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: graphpaper.com - User vs. You</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1568227</link>
		<dc:creator>graphpaper.com - User vs. You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a huge debate going on in the UX community about the use of the word &#8220;user&#8221;. Some argue that the word [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Emoo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1548527</link>
		<dc:creator>Emoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On proactive language -

User implies passivity and lack of contribution. A service is provided , and it is used (or abused.) I&#039;m a firm believer in the &quot;my reality is stronger than your reality&quot; idea, the meaning behind an interaction define the roles that will be played. 

Participation implies consciousness and cooperation. Not consuming a resource.

Do you want your &quot;people&quot; to be abusers or collaborators? This is a core concept to the new net or whatever you want to call it. Perhaps a word should be created.

Want proof? Treat someone like a 9 year old and see them acting like one. This is all very human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On proactive language -</p>
<p>User implies passivity and lack of contribution. A service is provided , and it is used (or abused.) I&#8217;m a firm believer in the &#8220;my reality is stronger than your reality&#8221; idea, the meaning behind an interaction define the roles that will be played. </p>
<p>Participation implies consciousness and cooperation. Not consuming a resource.</p>
<p>Do you want your &#8220;people&#8221; to be abusers or collaborators? This is a core concept to the new net or whatever you want to call it. Perhaps a word should be created.</p>
<p>Want proof? Treat someone like a 9 year old and see them acting like one. This is all very human.</p>
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		<title>By: pmoshay</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1524412</link>
		<dc:creator>pmoshay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;meme&#039; that i&#039;m going to blow chunks, if read that once more.  pompous gibberish.  talk plainly and say what you mean.  the term is idea, notion, thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;meme&#8217; that i&#8217;m going to blow chunks, if read that once more.  pompous gibberish.  talk plainly and say what you mean.  the term is idea, notion, thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1524211</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are all users, but with &quot;user&quot;, you have different roles: consumers, clients/customers, admins, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all users, but with &#8220;user&#8221;, you have different roles: consumers, clients/customers, admins, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: superuser2</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1524154</link>
		<dc:creator>superuser2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The user is one who uses a tool or application. So? What&#039;s wrong with that?

&quot;Visitor&quot; in the sense of a &quot;brochure-style&quot; website is fine, but in an application it makes no sense; you don&#039;t just visit, you use.

In the sense of technical jargon for communication among programmers/business people, user is fine - though if you don&#039;t like the connotation, you can use &quot;customer&quot; or &quot;consumer&quot; to their faces.

But amongst programmers they need a way to refer to the person who will end up using the application that differs from the &quot;customer&quot;, which would be the person paying them to develop it (in the case of freelance/contracting).

User is a specific term whereas &quot;customer&quot; or &quot;consumer&quot; is not really.

Though in other senses where you are not using something, visitor and reader make perfect sense, and fit better than user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The user is one who uses a tool or application. So? What&#8217;s wrong with that?</p>
<p>&#8220;Visitor&#8221; in the sense of a &#8220;brochure-style&#8221; website is fine, but in an application it makes no sense; you don&#8217;t just visit, you use.</p>
<p>In the sense of technical jargon for communication among programmers/business people, user is fine &#8211; though if you don&#8217;t like the connotation, you can use &#8220;customer&#8221; or &#8220;consumer&#8221; to their faces.</p>
<p>But amongst programmers they need a way to refer to the person who will end up using the application that differs from the &#8220;customer&#8221;, which would be the person paying them to develop it (in the case of freelance/contracting).</p>
<p>User is a specific term whereas &#8220;customer&#8221; or &#8220;consumer&#8221; is not really.</p>
<p>Though in other senses where you are not using something, visitor and reader make perfect sense, and fit better than user.</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky McFinster</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1523460</link>
		<dc:creator>Bucky McFinster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate the term &quot;user&quot;.  To my ear, it sounds like a restaurant calling its customers &quot;eaters&quot;.  

&quot;Reader&quot;, &quot;customer&quot;, &quot;member&quot;, or &quot;person&quot; are better alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the term &#8220;user&#8221;.  To my ear, it sounds like a restaurant calling its customers &#8220;eaters&#8221;.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Reader&#8221;, &#8220;customer&#8221;, &#8220;member&#8221;, or &#8220;person&#8221; are better alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1523450</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little too much semantics for my taste.</description>
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		<title>By: Gubbi</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1523305</link>
		<dc:creator>Gubbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web 2.0 &quot;users&quot; don&#039;t just &quot;use&quot; the service but also actively produce as well as consume content. They &quot;are&quot; the site, more than the software that lays the platform to be used. Also, it&#039;s not just this software platform being used. The content is not unidirectional as it used to be.

There was a discussion at Orielly Radar for a better term to reflect this behavior and how the term &quot;user&quot; is inept. Looking at all the terms being suggested, somehow none of them feel quite right. Since there isn&#039;t much anything from non-internet world that has such a parallel behavior, trying to take terms from that world doesn&#039;t quite fit in.

I think the term &quot;weber&quot; would be great. :-) 

Some other terms that I liked: Persona (or rather, it ought to be a weber&#039;s persona), prosumer, and @Justin&#039;s suggestion of &quot;tool&quot; :-))

roles same as persona? naah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web 2.0 &#8220;users&#8221; don&#8217;t just &#8220;use&#8221; the service but also actively produce as well as consume content. They &#8220;are&#8221; the site, more than the software that lays the platform to be used. Also, it&#8217;s not just this software platform being used. The content is not unidirectional as it used to be.</p>
<p>There was a discussion at Orielly Radar for a better term to reflect this behavior and how the term &#8220;user&#8221; is inept. Looking at all the terms being suggested, somehow none of them feel quite right. Since there isn&#8217;t much anything from non-internet world that has such a parallel behavior, trying to take terms from that world doesn&#8217;t quite fit in.</p>
<p>I think the term &#8220;weber&#8221; would be great. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Some other terms that I liked: Persona (or rather, it ought to be a weber&#8217;s persona), prosumer, and @Justin&#8217;s suggestion of &#8220;tool&#8221; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>roles same as persona? naah.</p>
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		<title>By: Vera</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1523235</link>
		<dc:creator>Vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a user of services, products, etc.
I&#039;m also a woman and a human, a buyer and a seller, etc. etc.

There&#039;s an issue that I think is important, about &#039;users&#039; having different points of view, experiences, and desires that seems to be getting buried under this brouhaha about a label.

Robert Scoble&#039;s Long Tail post is the only one I&#039;ve read so far that talks about at least something more than just this terminology, and that is still only .01% of the iceberg, imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a user of services, products, etc.<br />
I&#8217;m also a woman and a human, a buyer and a seller, etc. etc.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an issue that I think is important, about &#8216;users&#8217; having different points of view, experiences, and desires that seems to be getting buried under this brouhaha about a label.</p>
<p>Robert Scoble&#8217;s Long Tail post is the only one I&#8217;ve read so far that talks about at least something more than just this terminology, and that is still only .01% of the iceberg, imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Parsing Mobile</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1523121</link>
		<dc:creator>Parsing Mobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&#8220;User&#8221; is a four-letter&#160;word...&lt;/strong&gt;

The other day when I posted about Zonbu, I added a few sentences expressing that I&#8217;d rather call people who own and use a device as &#8220;owners&#8221; instead of &#8220;users&#8221;, if appropriate:
&#8230;ownership implies that the possession ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;User&#8221; is a four-letter&nbsp;word&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The other day when I posted about Zonbu, I added a few sentences expressing that I&#8217;d rather call people who own and use a device as &#8220;owners&#8221; instead of &#8220;users&#8221;, if appropriate:<br />
&#8230;ownership implies that the possession &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Wodtke</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522992</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Wodtke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a general term I don&#039;t think &quot;user&quot; is so bad, but why not use more relevant terms that speak to the goal of the business? Customer, member, doctor, client, job-hunter, shopper all carry better information than &quot;user&quot;. 

That said, I&#039;m sure we have better things to spend our time on. I recall back when I was waiting tables, a restaurant I worked at forced everyone to stop saying customer and say &quot;guest&quot; instead. This change was never explained, and a waste of time and created quite a bit of giggles. 

Later another manager led initiative came along to call them diners, and it was quickly accepted. At a fine-dining establishment it was a term that held meaning and resulted in the correct behavior. To eat is a five minute task, but to dine is a two hour and up pleasure seeking event.  When we had customers, we brought what they ordered and dropped a check. When they were diners, we were reminded to suggest paired wines, good starters, and tasty desserts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a general term I don&#8217;t think &#8220;user&#8221; is so bad, but why not use more relevant terms that speak to the goal of the business? Customer, member, doctor, client, job-hunter, shopper all carry better information than &#8220;user&#8221;. </p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m sure we have better things to spend our time on. I recall back when I was waiting tables, a restaurant I worked at forced everyone to stop saying customer and say &#8220;guest&#8221; instead. This change was never explained, and a waste of time and created quite a bit of giggles. </p>
<p>Later another manager led initiative came along to call them diners, and it was quickly accepted. At a fine-dining establishment it was a term that held meaning and resulted in the correct behavior. To eat is a five minute task, but to dine is a two hour and up pleasure seeking event.  When we had customers, we brought what they ordered and dropped a check. When they were diners, we were reminded to suggest paired wines, good starters, and tasty desserts.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey McCaleb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522967</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey McCaleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Remo
Great response, but assigning a label of user doesn&#039;t have to ignore the role of that individual&#039;s interactions. When you build an application, you consciously or sub-consciously define or determine the types of roles your users will fall into/perform. In the case of Google, there are users who search, users who use Google for SEO, users who use Google for ad placement (etc etc). @Tamara calls them personas, I just happen to define them as roles. 

At the end of the day, they&#039;re all still just labels. I don&#039;t understand why changing the label from X to Y is somehow being seen as an improvement. 

Gosh, why am I suddenly thinking of that George Carlin routine....you know the one where he describes how the word &quot;shell shock&quot; over a generation gets modified to be known as &quot;post traumatic stress disorder&quot;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Remo<br />
Great response, but assigning a label of user doesn&#8217;t have to ignore the role of that individual&#8217;s interactions. When you build an application, you consciously or sub-consciously define or determine the types of roles your users will fall into/perform. In the case of Google, there are users who search, users who use Google for SEO, users who use Google for ad placement (etc etc). @Tamara calls them personas, I just happen to define them as roles. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, they&#8217;re all still just labels. I don&#8217;t understand why changing the label from X to Y is somehow being seen as an improvement. </p>
<p>Gosh, why am I suddenly thinking of that George Carlin routine&#8230;.you know the one where he describes how the word &#8220;shell shock&#8221; over a generation gets modified to be known as &#8220;post traumatic stress disorder&#8221;. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522945</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &quot;tool&quot;? this is particularly apt for the web 2.0 world as our input into social networking sites makes us all &quot;tools&quot; of each other.  And the anonymity of the net turns normally polite civilized persons into raging a-hole fan boys, they would naturally refer to the targets of their derision as tools, while the rest of us supposed level headed bystanders refer to the them as tools, wade through some digg comments or if you are feeling web-one-point-oh-ish a slashdot comment thread. We&#039;re all tools, embrace the web 2.0 movement so you can be a tool too!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8220;tool&#8221;? this is particularly apt for the web 2.0 world as our input into social networking sites makes us all &#8220;tools&#8221; of each other.  And the anonymity of the net turns normally polite civilized persons into raging a-hole fan boys, they would naturally refer to the targets of their derision as tools, while the rest of us supposed level headed bystanders refer to the them as tools, wade through some digg comments or if you are feeling web-one-point-oh-ish a slashdot comment thread. We&#8217;re all tools, embrace the web 2.0 movement so you can be a tool too!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Homer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522908</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is: in new media technology as opposed to appliances, there is a constantly evolving relationship with the product. Digital media needs to serve the changing needs of constituents to stay relevant. A dishwasher doesn&#039;t have this problem.

Sure people are participating in media, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that they&#039;re users of the interfaces that facilitate this democratization. And to call the participants anything other than users is doing a disservice. 

Users works well because that is what people are until a service is no longer useful to them. A person may then create a new service which has users of it&#039;s own. It&#039;s possible to be both a user and a creator, but why take the focus off the utility of a service to its constituents? 

Even if everyone is a creator they are creating for users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is: in new media technology as opposed to appliances, there is a constantly evolving relationship with the product. Digital media needs to serve the changing needs of constituents to stay relevant. A dishwasher doesn&#8217;t have this problem.</p>
<p>Sure people are participating in media, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that they&#8217;re users of the interfaces that facilitate this democratization. And to call the participants anything other than users is doing a disservice. </p>
<p>Users works well because that is what people are until a service is no longer useful to them. A person may then create a new service which has users of it&#8217;s own. It&#8217;s possible to be both a user and a creator, but why take the focus off the utility of a service to its constituents? </p>
<p>Even if everyone is a creator they are creating for users.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522893</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaronontheweb (AjaxNinja)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29

According to Godaddy that domain (dictionarycrunch.com) is available... Maybe I&#039;ll sweep it up before Duncan gets to it!</description>
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<p>According to Godaddy that domain (dictionarycrunch.com) is available&#8230; Maybe I&#8217;ll sweep it up before Duncan gets to it!</p>
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		<title>By: lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522884</link>
		<dc:creator>lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is this...dictionarycrunch?</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522879</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If not &quot;user,&quot; then how would you describe my relationship with (let&#039;s say) Google? I am not a &quot;people/person/visitor/client/customer&quot; or anything of the sort. I am a Google user. I use Google and I use Google products.

The same could be said of most sites/companies/products, including my hair dryer.

Indeed, long live the user. (And quit hating on Duncan all the time. It&#039;s getting silly)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not &#8220;user,&#8221; then how would you describe my relationship with (let&#8217;s say) Google? I am not a &#8220;people/person/visitor/client/customer&#8221; or anything of the sort. I am a Google user. I use Google and I use Google products.</p>
<p>The same could be said of most sites/companies/products, including my hair dryer.</p>
<p>Indeed, long live the user. (And quit hating on Duncan all the time. It&#8217;s getting silly)</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara Adlin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522878</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamara Adlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this IS a really good post on an important topic, which is especially clear once you look at all the comments. &quot;User&quot; is, as I like to say, a four-letter word, IF you are in the business of designing and developing software, websites, or any products for people. If you are just describing how something functions, saying things like &#039;the user experience sucks&#039; is fine. But if you are trying to design and build something, &quot;user&quot; is useless. The word allows organizations to think they are &#039;user-focused&#039; without ever defining what users they are focusing on. Same problem with &#039;customer-focused.&#039; Ask anybody in a &#039;customer-&#039; or &#039;user-focused&#039; company who exactly their most important users are, and what goals their customers have, and you&#039;ll get a different answer from everybody. I guarantee it.

So I think the answer is personas. Clearly I&#039;m biased, having done so much work on personas. But I challenge everyone who works in a company that builds products or websites to send out one email to prove my point, and it should say: &quot;Hey guys. I&#039;m curious about how aligned we are on our assumptions about who, exactly, our customers/users are and what problems we are trying to solve for them. Can you take five minutes and list three examples of our most important users and their needs? For example, &quot;A mother of three who is worried about the websites her kids are visiting, and needs an easy way to keep track without having to search through the history in her browser.&quot;&quot;

You&#039;re going to get answers that are not totally aligned--especially if you send the message to everyone from execs to engineers. And you really should include execs, if you are brave enough. Tell them that you&#039;re not sure everyone in the company &#039;fully understands their vision so you are trying to get some more clarity&#039; and that should help with the fear factor. 

And alignment is the only way to get focus. And focus is the only way to build something that really kicks ass and will survive in the world of new 2.0 things coming out every single solitary day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this IS a really good post on an important topic, which is especially clear once you look at all the comments. &#8220;User&#8221; is, as I like to say, a four-letter word, IF you are in the business of designing and developing software, websites, or any products for people. If you are just describing how something functions, saying things like &#8216;the user experience sucks&#8217; is fine. But if you are trying to design and build something, &#8220;user&#8221; is useless. The word allows organizations to think they are &#8216;user-focused&#8217; without ever defining what users they are focusing on. Same problem with &#8216;customer-focused.&#8217; Ask anybody in a &#8216;customer-&#8217; or &#8216;user-focused&#8217; company who exactly their most important users are, and what goals their customers have, and you&#8217;ll get a different answer from everybody. I guarantee it.</p>
<p>So I think the answer is personas. Clearly I&#8217;m biased, having done so much work on personas. But I challenge everyone who works in a company that builds products or websites to send out one email to prove my point, and it should say: &#8220;Hey guys. I&#8217;m curious about how aligned we are on our assumptions about who, exactly, our customers/users are and what problems we are trying to solve for them. Can you take five minutes and list three examples of our most important users and their needs? For example, &#8220;A mother of three who is worried about the websites her kids are visiting, and needs an easy way to keep track without having to search through the history in her browser.&#8221;"</p>
<p>You&#8217;re going to get answers that are not totally aligned&#8211;especially if you send the message to everyone from execs to engineers. And you really should include execs, if you are brave enough. Tell them that you&#8217;re not sure everyone in the company &#8216;fully understands their vision so you are trying to get some more clarity&#8217; and that should help with the fear factor. </p>
<p>And alignment is the only way to get focus. And focus is the only way to build something that really kicks ass and will survive in the world of new 2.0 things coming out every single solitary day.</p>
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		<title>By: Remo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522877</link>
		<dc:creator>Remo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Geoffrey McCaleb

&quot;a label is only as useful as the meaning behind it&quot;... I think that is exactly what the argument is about. When people (individuals or groups) are treated as &quot;users&quot; it implies a whole perspective that ignores the process of interaction and the role of the individual in that process. It boils down interaction to &quot;they just use it&quot;, which is nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Geoffrey McCaleb</p>
<p>&#8220;a label is only as useful as the meaning behind it&#8221;&#8230; I think that is exactly what the argument is about. When people (individuals or groups) are treated as &#8220;users&#8221; it implies a whole perspective that ignores the process of interaction and the role of the individual in that process. It boils down interaction to &#8220;they just use it&#8221;, which is nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey McCaleb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522860</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey McCaleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings programs!
My goodness why is this nonsense being discussed? Users? People? Agents? Content Searchers? They&#039;re just labels and a label is only as useful as the meaning behind it. I call them users, you can call them whatever you want. 

Well done Duncan for blogging this, but I am amazed at all the gliteratti lined up to discuss this pointless topic. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings programs!<br />
My goodness why is this nonsense being discussed? Users? People? Agents? Content Searchers? They&#8217;re just labels and a label is only as useful as the meaning behind it. I call them users, you can call them whatever you want. </p>
<p>Well done Duncan for blogging this, but I am amazed at all the gliteratti lined up to discuss this pointless topic. </p>
<p>End of line.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522849</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... or, Interacting Meat Agent, or IMA, which also reminds [the user] that [he or she] too is an IMA (I&#039;M An IMA).

Of course I&#039;m joking, mostly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; or, Interacting Meat Agent, or IMA, which also reminds [the user] that [he or she] too is an IMA (I&#8217;M An IMA).</p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;m joking, mostly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Brewer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522845</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Brewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad we care enough about the people to have this sort of argument.  The good thing is to design apps with the user/people/client/humans/whatever in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad we care enough about the people to have this sort of argument.  The good thing is to design apps with the user/people/client/humans/whatever in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/27/long-live-the-user/comment-page-1/#comment-1522841</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for &quot;Agent.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for &#8220;Agent.&#8221;</p>
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