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	<title>Comments on: Snimmer &#8211; Test It If You Dare</title>
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		<title>By: Car Dealer</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-2736790</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Dealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;just moseyed in....&lt;/strong&gt;

God love google, nice stuff. Have an excellent day....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>just moseyed in&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>God love google, nice stuff. Have an excellent day&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: benjamin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1525265</link>
		<dc:creator>benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we (www.imcontacts.com) had the same idea 1.5 years ago. Its probably not that smooth as snimmer but there are more gadgets for the members...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we (www.imcontacts.com) had the same idea 1.5 years ago. Its probably not that smooth as snimmer but there are more gadgets for the members&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1516707</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web-based chat is a non-starter. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web-based chat is a non-starter. End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: RandomRat</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1516123</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, Hilaaaarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, Hilaaaarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Schiller</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515679</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook has an &quot;Advanced Wall&quot; app I think which encourages disabling your &quot;native&quot; wall, shows some ads and promotes spamming your friends/contacts to write on your new wall. There are also checkboxes checked by default with a note of allowing only 10 (I think) invites per day, presumably one enforced by FB themselves. I had it installed for almost two minutes.

I was notified that a friend wrote on my (new) wall (which was odd as I didn&#039;t have one yet), so I clicked and was lead through the install process. I read my new message, which was &quot;come write on my new wall!&quot;, and uninstalled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook has an &#8220;Advanced Wall&#8221; app I think which encourages disabling your &#8220;native&#8221; wall, shows some ads and promotes spamming your friends/contacts to write on your new wall. There are also checkboxes checked by default with a note of allowing only 10 (I think) invites per day, presumably one enforced by FB themselves. I had it installed for almost two minutes.</p>
<p>I was notified that a friend wrote on my (new) wall (which was odd as I didn&#8217;t have one yet), so I clicked and was lead through the install process. I read my new message, which was &#8220;come write on my new wall!&#8221;, and uninstalled.</p>
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		<title>By: Shambhu Borah</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515558</link>
		<dc:creator>Shambhu Borah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I like the idea a lot - looking at people’s pictures and other information while chatting with them is a great idea.&quot;

Can&#039;t you already do that with GoogleTalk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I like the idea a lot &#8211; looking at people’s pictures and other information while chatting with them is a great idea.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you already do that with GoogleTalk?</p>
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		<title>By: bdb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515464</link>
		<dc:creator>bdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so we don&#039;t want to discuss the merits and shortcomings of the service? Just the Spamminess?

It is called &quot;viral marketing&quot;, and if executed correctly can be quite effective (MySpace/Facebook come to mind). Plaxo is suffering for their prior practices and it is anyone&#039;s guess why snimmer didn&#039;t figure this would come back to haunt them.

Hint: VC&#039;s and advertisers use &#039;user numbers&#039; as metric when determining valuation, so the motivation is clear. The cost/benefit analysis of this strategy was obviously blown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so we don&#8217;t want to discuss the merits and shortcomings of the service? Just the Spamminess?</p>
<p>It is called &#8220;viral marketing&#8221;, and if executed correctly can be quite effective (MySpace/Facebook come to mind). Plaxo is suffering for their prior practices and it is anyone&#8217;s guess why snimmer didn&#8217;t figure this would come back to haunt them.</p>
<p>Hint: VC&#8217;s and advertisers use &#8216;user numbers&#8217; as metric when determining valuation, so the motivation is clear. The cost/benefit analysis of this strategy was obviously blown.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Gold</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515416</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, I was wondering about that. That&#039;s the second time this week something like this happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, I was wondering about that. That&#8217;s the second time this week something like this happened.</p>
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		<title>By: James Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515370</link>
		<dc:creator>James Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t facebook do this as well?  There was some service that tells all your friends via your email on hotmail and gmail...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t facebook do this as well?  There was some service that tells all your friends via your email on hotmail and gmail&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sinmer CEO</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515369</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinmer CEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick, let&#039;s spam everyone in their contacts list ... that way we will grow and strike it rich. Screw users, our product is awsome and they need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick, let&#8217;s spam everyone in their contacts list &#8230; that way we will grow and strike it rich. Screw users, our product is awsome and they need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Vero</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515293</link>
		<dc:creator>Vero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it certainly explains certain messages I received from some friends last night! 

Mike, as you say, the idea has potential. It&#039;s a real shame that companies think they can not only get away with this kind of behaviour, but make a conscious choice to use it as a way to promote their service. It&#039;ll only lead to a negative reaction and a premature shutdown/shotdown from potential users. 

Slow healthy growth is better than a quick shot to &quot;fame&quot; followed by a speedy crash &amp; burn - it just takes a bit more patience and persistence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it certainly explains certain messages I received from some friends last night! </p>
<p>Mike, as you say, the idea has potential. It&#8217;s a real shame that companies think they can not only get away with this kind of behaviour, but make a conscious choice to use it as a way to promote their service. It&#8217;ll only lead to a negative reaction and a premature shutdown/shotdown from potential users. </p>
<p>Slow healthy growth is better than a quick shot to &#8220;fame&#8221; followed by a speedy crash &amp; burn &#8211; it just takes a bit more patience and persistence.</p>
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		<title>By: bdb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515272</link>
		<dc:creator>bdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, these guys saw Pownce, and then thru this together? 

Spammy? Ok, what else? Competition? Financing? 2 man team? 

This has more in common with Pownce than the services mentioned as comparable. 

Why can&#039;t I just use Gtalk (alongside some SN if you&#039;re into that)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, these guys saw Pownce, and then thru this together? </p>
<p>Spammy? Ok, what else? Competition? Financing? 2 man team? </p>
<p>This has more in common with Pownce than the services mentioned as comparable. </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t I just use Gtalk (alongside some SN if you&#8217;re into that)?</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian De Simone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515081</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian De Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I need to do something with my English grammar apparently...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I need to do something with my English grammar apparently&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian De Simone</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1515079</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian De Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guys really need to do something with their spanish version, is terrible! It makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guys really need to do something with their spanish version, is terrible! It makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: David Krug</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514921</link>
		<dc:creator>David Krug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agh. That was annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agh. That was annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: anthropocentric</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514829</link>
		<dc:creator>anthropocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to hear what Uncov has to say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to hear what Uncov has to say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Sisk</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514700</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Sisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hate services that try to force feed themselves to your contacts. My &#039;Skepty Sense&#039; tingles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hate services that try to force feed themselves to your contacts. My &#8216;Skepty Sense&#8217; tingles.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M. Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514679</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul M. Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just careful on that login too, it submits your password in clear text.

Have to say it looks amateurish, Michael. The client-side code is horrendous and that it not only IMs but spams your IM contacts via email is worrying.

Plus, and I shudder to even mention it, MSN/Live/Spaces linked your IM account to a profile and photo page too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just careful on that login too, it submits your password in clear text.</p>
<p>Have to say it looks amateurish, Michael. The client-side code is horrendous and that it not only IMs but spams your IM contacts via email is worrying.</p>
<p>Plus, and I shudder to even mention it, MSN/Live/Spaces linked your IM account to a profile and photo page too.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514663</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, I didn&#039;t mention all the sounds. you can turn them off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I didn&#8217;t mention all the sounds. you can turn them off.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514657</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i went to snimmer, and a fuckin&#039; retarded bell sound started and wouldn&#039;t stop.  The most ridiculous pos of a site.  Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i went to snimmer, and a fuckin&#8217; retarded bell sound started and wouldn&#8217;t stop.  The most ridiculous pos of a site.  Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Smaran</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514656</link>
		<dc:creator>Smaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe. Looks like you&#039;re in a fix, Mike. E-mail them and ask to have your account closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe. Looks like you&#8217;re in a fix, Mike. E-mail them and ask to have your account closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514649</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man. It sent out emails too to gmail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man. It sent out emails too to gmail.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514648</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now I&#039;m getting the messages from my friends testing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now I&#8217;m getting the messages from my friends testing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514633</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/23/snimmer-test-it-if-you-dare/comment-page-1/#comment-1514629</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the upside, Michael and I finally got to reconnect. (It was like the movie &quot;Serendipity&quot; only the chick in that is cuter.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the upside, Michael and I finally got to reconnect. (It was like the movie &#8220;Serendipity&#8221; only the chick in that is cuter.)</p>
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