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		<dc:creator>D/TOWNIE - A Detroit Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Detroit News Roundup</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] calls it &#8220;The Best Live P2P Television Platform Available Today&#8221;. It&#8217;s getting quite popular for people who want to watch specific programs, especially in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would one want live television when one can have on-demand?</description>
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		<title>By: Harold Li</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>34 comments and no one has pointed out that the post leads with the misconception that Microsoft is the one launching Livestation?</description>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1508266</link>
		<dc:creator>Lior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>web 0.0 (yawn)</description>
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		<title>By: Shelly Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelly Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Zattoo was founded in US in 2005 by Sugih Jamin, professor for computer science at the University of Michigan, and Beat Knecht, software product marketing professional and former McKinsey consultant in Silicon Valley.”

I remember seeing a very impressive secret full screen breakthru compression live streaming full motion demo [at a mere 270k] -- a few blocks from the NSA in D.C. area wherein agents in black suits took down my license plate number -- back in late 2000, wherein demo was said being transmitted from U. Michigan, as I was meeting with its AMERICAN inventor [he's now retired in Florida].  Perhaps nothing new under the sun . . . hum. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Zattoo was founded in US in 2005 by Sugih Jamin, professor for computer science at the University of Michigan, and Beat Knecht, software product marketing professional and former McKinsey consultant in Silicon Valley.”</p>
<p>I remember seeing a very impressive secret full screen breakthru compression live streaming full motion demo [at a mere 270k] &#8212; a few blocks from the NSA in D.C. area wherein agents in black suits took down my license plate number &#8212; back in late 2000, wherein demo was said being transmitted from U. Michigan, as I was meeting with its AMERICAN inventor [he's now retired in Florida].  Perhaps nothing new under the sun . . . hum. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1507394</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P2P as an underlying technology hardly makes a company web 2.0
Napster was one of the first P2P services and it predated the advent of web 2.0 by several years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P2P as an underlying technology hardly makes a company web 2.0<br />
Napster was one of the first P2P services and it predated the advent of web 2.0 by several years.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1507209</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moritz, you're right that it's an extra distribution channel for TV ads, but cable companies will either try to block this or find some way of muscling in on the technology to scoop up some of the profits.  If Zattoo doesn't cooperate with the US cable and satellite companies, it's dead on arrival in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moritz, you&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s an extra distribution channel for TV ads, but cable companies will either try to block this or find some way of muscling in on the technology to scoop up some of the profits.  If Zattoo doesn&#8217;t cooperate with the US cable and satellite companies, it&#8217;s dead on arrival in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Moritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys? Who loses with this deal? For sure not the channels.
The ads are still in. It is just normal television. The TV channels just get an extra distribution channel for their stuff (and for their ads) for free.

The most interesting thing (that is watching certain channels from another country) will be obstructed by license rights.

And guys, please don't get me wrong. I do like Zattoo. I have it installed on my machine and use it regularly. That is approximately once a week. However I do stay firm on my statement, that I cannot see any quantum leap. Possibly broadcasting gets a bit cheaper this way. But that's about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys? Who loses with this deal? For sure not the channels.<br />
The ads are still in. It is just normal television. The TV channels just get an extra distribution channel for their stuff (and for their ads) for free.</p>
<p>The most interesting thing (that is watching certain channels from another country) will be obstructed by license rights.</p>
<p>And guys, please don&#8217;t get me wrong. I do like Zattoo. I have it installed on my machine and use it regularly. That is approximately once a week. However I do stay firm on my statement, that I cannot see any quantum leap. Possibly broadcasting gets a bit cheaper this way. But that&#8217;s about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506707</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JonP, as long as there are entrenched business interests in the US who feel they'll lose out by having Zattoo available here, it'll be slow in coming.  Some of these interests include the cable and satellite companies (like Cox and Direct TV), as well as any other industry that thinks it will be hurt, either in real or imagined ways.

"Cross-cultural understanding"??  Do you really think concepts like this enter the minds of people who only care about the bottom line?   C'mon, this isn't France.   This is America!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JonP, as long as there are entrenched business interests in the US who feel they&#8217;ll lose out by having Zattoo available here, it&#8217;ll be slow in coming.  Some of these interests include the cable and satellite companies (like Cox and Direct TV), as well as any other industry that thinks it will be hurt, either in real or imagined ways.</p>
<p>&#8220;Cross-cultural understanding&#8221;??  Do you really think concepts like this enter the minds of people who only care about the bottom line?   C&#8217;mon, this isn&#8217;t France.   This is America!!</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506690</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of companies can deliver the same viewer experience that Zattoo offers.  I'm just guessing as I'm in NYC.  I know it's possible because we test stream local TV stations using P2P.  (I'm looking at a NYC news channel right now as we clean up from the steam bomb last night.)

Video quality for P2P is largely a function of average system upload capacity.  If the average upload is 300Kbps you cannot economically deliver higher quality bitrate than about 270Kbps.  You can make promises for SD quality but they break down when you start talking about 100s of thousands of simultaneous viewers.  Bandwidth is a killer when you try to reach commercial broadcast-sized audiences with multicast or hybrid P2P.

It would be easy to net broadcast every station in every DMA to every broadband computer if the actual ownership of the content wasn't chopped up into a thousand different pieces.  When you watch Plain Old TV you are getting content from your local station, the network, syndicators, advertisers, unions, etc.  Zatto is playing it safe by only showing a few channels in a few countries.  If they went global they'd get shutdown....Veoh and Google on the other hand have enough money to pay for lawyers to do pretty much what they need to do.  Only companies with deep pockets will break the logjam that keeps Zattoo off your US PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of companies can deliver the same viewer experience that Zattoo offers.  I&#8217;m just guessing as I&#8217;m in NYC.  I know it&#8217;s possible because we test stream local TV stations using P2P.  (I&#8217;m looking at a NYC news channel right now as we clean up from the steam bomb last night.)</p>
<p>Video quality for P2P is largely a function of average system upload capacity.  If the average upload is 300Kbps you cannot economically deliver higher quality bitrate than about 270Kbps.  You can make promises for SD quality but they break down when you start talking about 100s of thousands of simultaneous viewers.  Bandwidth is a killer when you try to reach commercial broadcast-sized audiences with multicast or hybrid P2P.</p>
<p>It would be easy to net broadcast every station in every DMA to every broadband computer if the actual ownership of the content wasn&#8217;t chopped up into a thousand different pieces.  When you watch Plain Old TV you are getting content from your local station, the network, syndicators, advertisers, unions, etc.  Zatto is playing it safe by only showing a few channels in a few countries.  If they went global they&#8217;d get shutdown&#8230;.Veoh and Google on the other hand have enough money to pay for lawyers to do pretty much what they need to do.  Only companies with deep pockets will break the logjam that keeps Zattoo off your US PC.</p>
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		<title>By: JonP.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506686</link>
		<dc:creator>JonP.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Francophone living in the US, I'd love to have access to the French broadcast stations listed on Zattoo.  I'm certain many others around the world would like to have easy free (or cheap) access to stations outside their country.  Think of the cross-cultural understanding that could happen.

Of course this may be bad as it would feed my football (soccer)  addiction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Francophone living in the US, I&#8217;d love to have access to the French broadcast stations listed on Zattoo.  I&#8217;m certain many others around the world would like to have easy free (or cheap) access to stations outside their country.  Think of the cross-cultural understanding that could happen.</p>
<p>Of course this may be bad as it would feed my football (soccer)  addiction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quazie</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506611</link>
		<dc:creator>Quazie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the developers of Zattoo is a professor at the University of Michigan.  I had him last semester and he was always plugging the service.  The only way to get Zattoo working in the United States is to be on the University of Michigan campus, with a University of Michigan sign-on with a University of Michigan version of Zattoo on a University network.

We can get Comedy Central, HBO and a variety of others for free, but now that I have left the dorms, it is useless (except for watching T.V. during boring classes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the developers of Zattoo is a professor at the University of Michigan.  I had him last semester and he was always plugging the service.  The only way to get Zattoo working in the United States is to be on the University of Michigan campus, with a University of Michigan sign-on with a University of Michigan version of Zattoo on a University network.</p>
<p>We can get Comedy Central, HBO and a variety of others for free, but now that I have left the dorms, it is useless (except for watching T.V. during boring classes.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506608</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer Moritz -- true, Zattoo is not doing anything innovative with content.  But THAT'S NOT THE POINT.   What they've created is an utterly seamless, efficient, ultra high-quality way of delivering existing content, that didn't exist before.  That alone is a quantum development.

Because the medium of "television" isn't going away any time soon, and will not be replaced by things like Joost, this is significant.  Previously, there was no smooth, easy, and glitch-free way of watching TV via the internet.   Now, apparently, there is.  

This will be very big, initially, in countries like Switzerland that don't have armies of lobbyists defending entrenched special interest groups like broadcast TV stations, syndicators, etc.   I think it's too early to tell whether major American broadcast and cable networks will warm to this.  Apparently they have already signed CNN and Bloomberg on.   But actually allowing customers in the US to use Zattoo is another story -- it'll have to be vetted by lobbyists, lawyers, and the FCC.  

That's one of the drawbacks of living in this massive, lumbering, bureaucratic empire we call the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer Moritz &#8212; true, Zattoo is not doing anything innovative with content.  But THAT&#8217;S NOT THE POINT.   What they&#8217;ve created is an utterly seamless, efficient, ultra high-quality way of delivering existing content, that didn&#8217;t exist before.  That alone is a quantum development.</p>
<p>Because the medium of &#8220;television&#8221; isn&#8217;t going away any time soon, and will not be replaced by things like Joost, this is significant.  Previously, there was no smooth, easy, and glitch-free way of watching TV via the internet.   Now, apparently, there is.  </p>
<p>This will be very big, initially, in countries like Switzerland that don&#8217;t have armies of lobbyists defending entrenched special interest groups like broadcast TV stations, syndicators, etc.   I think it&#8217;s too early to tell whether major American broadcast and cable networks will warm to this.  Apparently they have already signed CNN and Bloomberg on.   But actually allowing customers in the US to use Zattoo is another story &#8212; it&#8217;ll have to be vetted by lobbyists, lawyers, and the FCC.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the drawbacks of living in this massive, lumbering, bureaucratic empire we call the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe T.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506591</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's no surprise that this thing isn't available in the US yet.   It may never be, unless they're bought out by one of the major TV networks (CNN, are you listening?)   

Whenever a potentially disruptive innovation of this scope appears, one that impinges on a major, entrenched industry, it is slow to see the light of day in the US, because of legalities and lobbyists.  Generally, as with telecom innovations, someone big has to be paid off, or there must be some way for some huge, powerful industry to profit -- otherwise, it's a non-starter in the US.

It doesn't surprise me that Zattoo has become available first in Switzerland, which is truly "the land of the free and the home of the brave".   America is the land "of, by, and for the industry lobbyists."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no surprise that this thing isn&#8217;t available in the US yet.   It may never be, unless they&#8217;re bought out by one of the major TV networks (CNN, are you listening?)   </p>
<p>Whenever a potentially disruptive innovation of this scope appears, one that impinges on a major, entrenched industry, it is slow to see the light of day in the US, because of legalities and lobbyists.  Generally, as with telecom innovations, someone big has to be paid off, or there must be some way for some huge, powerful industry to profit &#8212; otherwise, it&#8217;s a non-starter in the US.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that Zattoo has become available first in Switzerland, which is truly &#8220;the land of the free and the home of the brave&#8221;.   America is the land &#8220;of, by, and for the industry lobbyists.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506572</link>
		<dc:creator>Rb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah domains must really be running out</description>
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		<title>By: Moritz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506432</link>
		<dc:creator>Moritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan
Yes obviously from the technology aspect you are right. I wasn't trying to criticise that you cover them. I only wanted to point out, that they do not really offer any extra value for anyone who has a TV at home anyway. I just believe that they do not really belong into the same league as Joost. I have seen this Matrix once somewhere with two axis: participatory vs. broadcasting and live vs. on demand.

some examples:
participatory and on demand: youtube
participatory and live: ustream
broadcasting and on demand: joost
broadcasting and live: zattoo

I think it looked something like that. But it's a while ago. Might have been slightly different. This just points out that Zattoo is doing something which has been developed for a long time. It is called television. They only thing they change is the technique of broadcasting. A service like Joost on the other hand is trying to develop something completely new and different. You may call it TV of the future, Read-write-TV or TV 2.0 or whatever you prefer. It is not sure yet how this type of new TV will look like and Joost is one experiment going on. They might fail, but I am sure one or another type of New-TV will survive in the end.

If there is still space for traditional broadcasting after the New-TV has finally found its perfect shape remains to be seen.

PS one criticism I have about Zattoo is that it does not offer a good Zapping experience. With that it lacks the most important appeal of "sit[ting] back a watch[ing] stuff without having to think about it."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan<br />
Yes obviously from the technology aspect you are right. I wasn&#8217;t trying to criticise that you cover them. I only wanted to point out, that they do not really offer any extra value for anyone who has a TV at home anyway. I just believe that they do not really belong into the same league as Joost. I have seen this Matrix once somewhere with two axis: participatory vs. broadcasting and live vs. on demand.</p>
<p>some examples:<br />
participatory and on demand: youtube<br />
participatory and live: ustream<br />
broadcasting and on demand: joost<br />
broadcasting and live: zattoo</p>
<p>I think it looked something like that. But it&#8217;s a while ago. Might have been slightly different. This just points out that Zattoo is doing something which has been developed for a long time. It is called television. They only thing they change is the technique of broadcasting. A service like Joost on the other hand is trying to develop something completely new and different. You may call it TV of the future, Read-write-TV or TV 2.0 or whatever you prefer. It is not sure yet how this type of new TV will look like and Joost is one experiment going on. They might fail, but I am sure one or another type of New-TV will survive in the end.</p>
<p>If there is still space for traditional broadcasting after the New-TV has finally found its perfect shape remains to be seen.</p>
<p>PS one criticism I have about Zattoo is that it does not offer a good Zapping experience. With that it lacks the most important appeal of &#8220;sit[ting] back a watch[ing] stuff without having to think about it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506378</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moritz
it's delivered P2P so it's not Web 1.0 by any shot, as for the on-demand aspect, as much as there is a place of the likes of Joost, there is also a place for passive viewing as well; for example sometimes it's great to just sit back a watch stuff without having to think about it.

Spiel
Check out our &lt;a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/live-p2p-television-streaming-now/" rel="nofollow"&gt;previous post&lt;/a&gt;. Unless you speak Mandarin you're not going to get much value from other services, Zattoo is as good as it gets for live TV, for on demand try Joost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moritz<br />
it&#8217;s delivered P2P so it&#8217;s not Web 1.0 by any shot, as for the on-demand aspect, as much as there is a place of the likes of Joost, there is also a place for passive viewing as well; for example sometimes it&#8217;s great to just sit back a watch stuff without having to think about it.</p>
<p>Spiel<br />
Check out our <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/live-p2p-television-streaming-now/" rel="nofollow">previous post</a>. Unless you speak Mandarin you&#8217;re not going to get much value from other services, Zattoo is as good as it gets for live TV, for on demand try Joost.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiel</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506261</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the best [available] open to all online TV service that includes the most international stations? Preferably free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the best [available] open to all online TV service that includes the most international stations? Preferably free.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506257</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Germany, the service was announced for July. But if you follow the discussion groups, then you find a lot of doubts that zattoo is going to start at all here. There seem to be a lot of legal aspects which apparently are hard to solve. Zattoo doesn't respond to these concerns. I really hope that they are gonna make it. But I am not that sure anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Germany, the service was announced for July. But if you follow the discussion groups, then you find a lot of doubts that zattoo is going to start at all here. There seem to be a lot of legal aspects which apparently are hard to solve. Zattoo doesn&#8217;t respond to these concerns. I really hope that they are gonna make it. But I am not that sure anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: geodotto</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506236</link>
		<dc:creator>geodotto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Zatoo is that it only allows to watch local channels. In my case, I live in Spain, I installed Zatoo and I was able to watch the same channels I get through the aerial (with dvb). 
What's the point of watching the same channels on your computer and on your tv? (unless you're at work :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Zatoo is that it only allows to watch local channels. In my case, I live in Spain, I installed Zatoo and I was able to watch the same channels I get through the aerial (with dvb).<br />
What&#8217;s the point of watching the same channels on your computer and on your tv? (unless you&#8217;re at work :-))</p>
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		<title>By: Moritz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506139</link>
		<dc:creator>Moritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Zattoo is, that it is actual television over the internet. No on-demand, no comments, no recommender system, no nothing, no community, no exchange. Zattoo is Web 1.0 par excellence. With Zattoo you can replace your TV if you are watching TV rarely anyway. Quality isn't great, but OK. It is good enough to watch Al-Jazeera news once a week. And if that is about your total TV consumption you will be happy to get rid of the huge box called TV, the extra cables, etc. But if you want TV for the future, Zattoo does not offer anything which might go in that direction - Yet (?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Zattoo is, that it is actual television over the internet. No on-demand, no comments, no recommender system, no nothing, no community, no exchange. Zattoo is Web 1.0 par excellence. With Zattoo you can replace your TV if you are watching TV rarely anyway. Quality isn&#8217;t great, but OK. It is good enough to watch Al-Jazeera news once a week. And if that is about your total TV consumption you will be happy to get rid of the huge box called TV, the extra cables, etc. But if you want TV for the future, Zattoo does not offer anything which might go in that direction - Yet (?).</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506070</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidan Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... this looks like ACTUAL television on the Internet with REAL channels. It seems like most IPTV start-ups promise an experience like this, then disappoint. I might have to give this a go...

Cheers,
Aidan
www.MappingTheWeb.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; this looks like ACTUAL television on the Internet with REAL channels. It seems like most IPTV start-ups promise an experience like this, then disappoint. I might have to give this a go&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Aidan<br />
<a href="http://www.MappingTheWeb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MappingTheWeb.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Guido Berger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506051</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zattoo is based in Zurich, we did an interview with Beat Knecht. He's just travelling around a lot.
Here's the link to the Swiss "Handelsregister" (an official register, with every Swiss company required to be listed):
http://www.hrazh.ch/cgi-bin/fnrGet.cgi?fnr=6602177002&#38;amt=020&#38;lang=1&#38;hrg_opt=11000&#38;shab=0000000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zattoo is based in Zurich, we did an interview with Beat Knecht. He&#8217;s just travelling around a lot.<br />
Here&#8217;s the link to the Swiss &#8220;Handelsregister&#8221; (an official register, with every Swiss company required to be listed):<br />
<a href="http://www.hrazh.ch/cgi-bin/fnrGet.cgi?fnr=6602177002&amp;amt=020&amp;lang=1&amp;hrg_opt=11000&amp;shab=0000000" rel="nofollow">http://www.hrazh.ch/cgi-bin/fn.....ab=0000000</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506030</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guido
I'm not sure who to believe on the company side, so I'm leaving it as "European focused" :-)

I am aware of the legal reasons, it doesn't make it suck any less though :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guido<br />
I&#8217;m not sure who to believe on the company side, so I&#8217;m leaving it as &#8220;European focused&#8221; <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am aware of the legal reasons, it doesn&#8217;t make it suck any less though <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Guido Berger</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/zattoo-is-the-best-live-p2p-television-platform-available-today/#comment-1506023</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zattoo is a Swiss company, based in Zurich. Beat Knecht is Swiss, and worked in the valley.
The way they do it: instead of streaming from a central server, the use P2P technology. I don't know the details, though.

The reason you only got a 7 day pass is probably a legal one: to be able to stream all the TV content, they are bound to control who watches it. AFAIK, use is restricted to some European countries. As a Swiss, I got an unlimited beta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zattoo is a Swiss company, based in Zurich. Beat Knecht is Swiss, and worked in the valley.<br />
The way they do it: instead of streaming from a central server, the use P2P technology. I don&#8217;t know the details, though.</p>
<p>The reason you only got a 7 day pass is probably a legal one: to be able to stream all the TV content, they are bound to control who watches it. AFAIK, use is restricted to some European countries. As a Swiss, I got an unlimited beta.</p>
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