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	<title>Comments on: Ooma Launches Free Consumer Phone Service</title>
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		<title>By: Clffy44</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2955295</link>
		<dc:creator>Clffy44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My porting of my second number went through On Wednesday August 19th, 2009.  My porting of my primary number went through on Thursday August 27th.  I&#039;m in the VoIP industry; and I ported both numbers to Ooma.  The sound quality and features are equal if not better on Ooma.

Both companies have customer service operations that&#039;d make AOL look like British Royalty.

I never had any problem faxing with Vonage, with my HP Photosmart 7280 all-in-one printer / fax.  And faxing with Ooma is no problem either.

After they ported my first number, my bill went down to $33. And change.

After my second number (which is actually my primary number) had completed it&#039;s port, I noticed that the light on my Vonage portal showed that I had no active phone connection; so, I called Vonage and confirmed that they and I were no longer connected, and / or associated; and that I had no outstanding balance.  I don&#039;t know how someone could get an outstanding balance, since they only do auto-debit  -  UNLESS someone&#039;s card declines, when presented for payment.

BUT, I recorded that final Vonage phone conversation; and confirmed my severance date and the fact that Vonage would no longer continue to debit my account; as I informed them that that&#039;d be felonious misrepresentation.

They don&#039;t want to f*ck with me; as if they did, I&#039;d pursue a class action suit against them, the likes of which they&#039;d not emerge victorious from.  Not even Alan Shore from Boston Legal could win that one for them.

IF ever you want to save money, as I said below in a prior thread, check out Ooma.  Now that I&#039;ve been using it on a regular basis, I&#039;m VERY surprised to say that it&#039;s even better than I had anticipated that it would be. - The actual phone service, that is.  There are still a couple of called ID issues on the secondary number that need to be resolved.  Remember the customer service department sucks donkey dink.

Once those 2 minor issues are resolved, chances are 99.999999999% that I&#039;ll never ever need to talk with the customer service department ever again.  Remember, I&#039;m in the VoIP industry, in a technological basis; and as long as it&#039;s not a network issue, I can resolve just about any issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My porting of my second number went through On Wednesday August 19th, 2009.  My porting of my primary number went through on Thursday August 27th.  I&#8217;m in the VoIP industry; and I ported both numbers to Ooma.  The sound quality and features are equal if not better on Ooma.</p>
<p>Both companies have customer service operations that&#8217;d make AOL look like British Royalty.</p>
<p>I never had any problem faxing with Vonage, with my HP Photosmart 7280 all-in-one printer / fax.  And faxing with Ooma is no problem either.</p>
<p>After they ported my first number, my bill went down to $33. And change.</p>
<p>After my second number (which is actually my primary number) had completed it&#8217;s port, I noticed that the light on my Vonage portal showed that I had no active phone connection; so, I called Vonage and confirmed that they and I were no longer connected, and / or associated; and that I had no outstanding balance.  I don&#8217;t know how someone could get an outstanding balance, since they only do auto-debit  &#8211;  UNLESS someone&#8217;s card declines, when presented for payment.</p>
<p>BUT, I recorded that final Vonage phone conversation; and confirmed my severance date and the fact that Vonage would no longer continue to debit my account; as I informed them that that&#8217;d be felonious misrepresentation.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want to f*ck with me; as if they did, I&#8217;d pursue a class action suit against them, the likes of which they&#8217;d not emerge victorious from.  Not even Alan Shore from Boston Legal could win that one for them.</p>
<p>IF ever you want to save money, as I said below in a prior thread, check out Ooma.  Now that I&#8217;ve been using it on a regular basis, I&#8217;m VERY surprised to say that it&#8217;s even better than I had anticipated that it would be. &#8211; The actual phone service, that is.  There are still a couple of called ID issues on the secondary number that need to be resolved.  Remember the customer service department sucks donkey dink.</p>
<p>Once those 2 minor issues are resolved, chances are 99.999999999% that I&#8217;ll never ever need to talk with the customer service department ever again.  Remember, I&#8217;m in the VoIP industry, in a technological basis; and as long as it&#8217;s not a network issue, I can resolve just about any issue.</p>
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		<title>By: new</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2835726</link>
		<dc:creator>new</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make 3 way calling, we have to use the ooma box not thru the phone, i don&#039;t like this. I want to make 3 way call thru phone. I don&#039;t want to run to the box just to place 3way box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make 3 way calling, we have to use the ooma box not thru the phone, i don&#8217;t like this. I want to make 3 way call thru phone. I don&#8217;t want to run to the box just to place 3way box.</p>
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		<title>By: The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2817883</link>
		<dc:creator>The Far Edge &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first launched two years ago as a new type of consumer VoIP product. But a complicated business model (expensive hardware, free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Design Website</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2816763</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Design Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first launched two years ago as a new type of consumer VoIP product. But a complicated business model (expensive hardware, free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Techeroid &#187; Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2816683</link>
		<dc:creator>Techeroid &#187; Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first launched two years ago as a new type of consumer VoIP product. But a complicated business model (expensive hardware, free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Cellphone Ultra</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2816627</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Cellphone Ultra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first launched two years ago as a new type of consumer VoIP product. But a complicated business model (expensive    hardware, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Stoth</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2816614</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Stoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] brisk and the company should reach profitability with this new round of financing, he added.   Ooma first launched two years ago as a new type of consumer VoIP product. But a complicated business model (expensive hardware, free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Spin Valley Post</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2816608</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility &#124; Spin Valley Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first launched two years ago as a new type of consumer VoIP product. But a complicated business model (expensive hardware, free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2816561</link>
		<dc:creator>Ooma Gets $14 Million, Survival Looks Like A Real Possibility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first launched two years ago as a new type of consumer VoIP product. But a complicated business model (expensive hardware, free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tech Untangled &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Concerns about Ooma</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2752096</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Untangled &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Concerns about Ooma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it. And it&#8217;s just started private beta. You can find some of the greatest reviews at GigaOm, Crunch, Engadget, Mossberg, - some of the writing are pretty clear indications that Ooma reached out to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it. And it&#8217;s just started private beta. You can find some of the greatest reviews at GigaOm, Crunch, Engadget, Mossberg, &#8211; some of the writing are pretty clear indications that Ooma reached out to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: barbara s bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-1/#comment-2651588</link>
		<dc:creator>barbara s bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi all i want is a home  phone in my home for i have none i live in a seinors apartment i get payed every 2 weeks i babysit my grand kids i only get 120  hope u can help me im at 234 w 9th street apt 602 ferdinand indiana 47532</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi all i want is a home  phone in my home for i have none i live in a seinors apartment i get payed every 2 weeks i babysit my grand kids i only get 120  hope u can help me im at 234 w 9th street apt 602 ferdinand indiana 47532</p>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1217248097">Doug Hayter</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2602068</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1217248097">Doug Hayter</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frustrate me - why don&#039;t you!

So nothing evil yet, but come on ooma - just like Vonage it is easy to sign-up for service online but no way to end service online.  I like the ooma product and service, but now want to end the &quot;Premier&quot; service but no way to stop it online and for that matter no even suggestion to call them if you want to.  Don&#039;t companies get it - I may even recommend the company or return to the service if it isn&#039;t a pain in the a@# to come and GO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frustrate me &#8211; why don&#8217;t you!</p>
<p>So nothing evil yet, but come on ooma &#8211; just like Vonage it is easy to sign-up for service online but no way to end service online.  I like the ooma product and service, but now want to end the &#8220;Premier&#8221; service but no way to stop it online and for that matter no even suggestion to call them if you want to.  Don&#8217;t companies get it &#8211; I may even recommend the company or return to the service if it isn&#8217;t a pain in the <a href="mailto:a@#">a@#</a> to come and GO!</p>
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		<title>By: perde</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2572588</link>
		<dc:creator>perde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice</description>
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		<title>By: Free Domestic Calling For Life &#124; Mortgage Refinance Loan, Home Purchase Loan, Home Equity Loan, Debt Consolidation &#124; 411MortgageNetwork</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2550866</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Domestic Calling For Life &#124; Mortgage Refinance Loan, Home Purchase Loan, Home Equity Loan, Debt Consolidation &#124; 411MortgageNetwork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] internet connection, ooma&#8217;s device actually uses a new technological design. According to TechCrunch: Instead of using normal exchanges to terminate calls like Vonage does, Ooma routes calls through [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Interview With Ooma Execs Andrew Frame and Ashton Kutcher &#124; Holly Swanson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2501174</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview With Ooma Execs Andrew Frame and Ashton Kutcher &#124; Holly Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] long awaited &#8220;Vonage Killer&#8221; Ooma has launched into private beta. The product allows consumers to get &#8220;free phone service for life&#8221; after purchasing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2485533</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, first of all, the user was not all aware of how Vonage works. Sure you can plug only one phone into the Vonage box -- OR -- You can plug the Vonage box into any standard phone jack in a wall and immediately, all the other phone jacks are live with vonage. Now, take the amortized rate of the OOMA box, plus all the Scouts and you have about a much longer payback.
I&#039;ve had Vonage for over 3 years and have only had 2 problems -- both caused by the upgrade of Comcast. the solution -- reboot the Vonage box. If only Windows were that easy and reliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, first of all, the user was not all aware of how Vonage works. Sure you can plug only one phone into the Vonage box &#8212; OR &#8212; You can plug the Vonage box into any standard phone jack in a wall and immediately, all the other phone jacks are live with vonage. Now, take the amortized rate of the OOMA box, plus all the Scouts and you have about a much longer payback.<br />
I&#8217;ve had Vonage for over 3 years and have only had 2 problems &#8212; both caused by the upgrade of Comcast. the solution &#8212; reboot the Vonage box. If only Windows were that easy and reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: A Lifeline For Ooma - $16 million More In Funding</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2478506</link>
		<dc:creator>A Lifeline For Ooma - $16 million More In Funding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Valley VoIP startup Ooma, which launched Fourteen months ago, was having a wee bit of trouble these last few months. They lost some key executives and were [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simply Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One Year Later: Ooma</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2445894</link>
		<dc:creator>Simply Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One Year Later: Ooma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VoIP startup Ooma launched nearly a year ago and offered consumers free phone service for life, all you had to do was buy the hardware for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AskTeens - One Year Later: Ooma</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2400359</link>
		<dc:creator>AskTeens - One Year Later: Ooma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VoIP startup Ooma launched nearly a year ago and offered consumers free phone service for life, all you had to do was buy the hardware for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Infotron &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One Year Later: Ooma</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2399682</link>
		<dc:creator>Infotron &#187; Blog Archive &#187; One Year Later: Ooma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VoIP startup Ooma launched nearly a year ago and offered consumers free phone service for life, all you had to do was buy the hardware for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: One Year Later: Ooma</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-2399658</link>
		<dc:creator>One Year Later: Ooma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VoIP startup Ooma launched nearly a year ago and offered consumers free phone service for life, all you had to do was buy the hardware for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] VoIP startup Ooma launched nearly a year ago and offered consumers free phone service for life, all you had to do was buy the hardware for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Year in Launches (2007 Edition)</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-1890187</link>
		<dc:creator>The Year in Launches (2007 Edition)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ooma Launches Free Consumer Phone Service July 18 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Being Stupid And Litigious Is No Way To Go Through Life</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-1670601</link>
		<dc:creator>Being Stupid And Litigious Is No Way To Go Through Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we never used that image of Ashton Kutcher on any of our websites. The one image we did use (in this post) was supplied by Ooma (Kutcher is the creative director for Ooma), and Ooma says they own that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we never used that image of Ashton Kutcher on any of our websites. The one image we did use (in this post) was supplied by Ooma (Kutcher is the creative director for Ooma), and Ooma says they own that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another Joe User</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-1556209</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Joe User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good questions Mike P.

I&#039;m glad to finally have an answer to the local service adds/changes/deletes questions.  That makes the math possible now. In my case, my local service monthly cost would actually go UP with Ooma by about $9 ($5 additional for unlimited local and $4 for &quot;busy call forwarding&quot;) so Ooma only saves me money if my domestic long-distance bills average more then $9 per month, which in my case they don&#039;t (the equivalent of about 300 minutes of long-distance calls, and my average over the long run is about half that per month).  So there is no cost justification for Ooma for me - I would have to justify it on the basis of the extra features being worth the $450 hub/scout plus an extra $5 - $10 per month in costs to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good questions Mike P.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to finally have an answer to the local service adds/changes/deletes questions.  That makes the math possible now. In my case, my local service monthly cost would actually go UP with Ooma by about $9 ($5 additional for unlimited local and $4 for &#8220;busy call forwarding&#8221;) so Ooma only saves me money if my domestic long-distance bills average more then $9 per month, which in my case they don&#8217;t (the equivalent of about 300 minutes of long-distance calls, and my average over the long run is about half that per month).  So there is no cost justification for Ooma for me &#8211; I would have to justify it on the basis of the extra features being worth the $450 hub/scout plus an extra $5 &#8211; $10 per month in costs to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike P</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/18/ooma-launches-free-consumer-phone-service/comment-page-3/#comment-1556194</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #117

So OOMA admits that they delete every feature I have with the phone company. What if I want Call Waiting for my own calls? The rational way to handle it would be to allow me to keep Call Waiting (to be applied to calls I make to local or calls I receive) and for the OOMA hub to send the Cancel Call Waiting code for any call it makes from my hub for someone else.

About the BCF (I thought it was CFB) forwarding to a local number. The question still remains: Who pays for this other local number and line? If I&#039;m the only OOMA subscriber in my area, then someone has to pay for one phone line just for me. That&#039;s way too expensive. If I&#039;m in an area with many OOMA subscribers and there are only a few of these local numbers to forward any of them to, there could often be times when they are all busy and the call to me is blocked - i.e., no &quot;Instant Second Line&quot;. It&#039;s really a &quot;Sometimes Second Line&quot;.

Considering the large number of &quot;local&quot; areas, I find it impossible to believe that there will be another local line to support this capability for every OOMA subscriber.

And if OOMA subscribes me to BCF (or CFB), can I deactivate it on a per call basis when I make local calls through my hub? Since the functionality it is trying to duplicate is Call Waiting, I would certainly want the ability to Cancel it for certain calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #117</p>
<p>So OOMA admits that they delete every feature I have with the phone company. What if I want Call Waiting for my own calls? The rational way to handle it would be to allow me to keep Call Waiting (to be applied to calls I make to local or calls I receive) and for the OOMA hub to send the Cancel Call Waiting code for any call it makes from my hub for someone else.</p>
<p>About the BCF (I thought it was CFB) forwarding to a local number. The question still remains: Who pays for this other local number and line? If I&#8217;m the only OOMA subscriber in my area, then someone has to pay for one phone line just for me. That&#8217;s way too expensive. If I&#8217;m in an area with many OOMA subscribers and there are only a few of these local numbers to forward any of them to, there could often be times when they are all busy and the call to me is blocked &#8211; i.e., no &#8220;Instant Second Line&#8221;. It&#8217;s really a &#8220;Sometimes Second Line&#8221;.</p>
<p>Considering the large number of &#8220;local&#8221; areas, I find it impossible to believe that there will be another local line to support this capability for every OOMA subscriber.</p>
<p>And if OOMA subscribes me to BCF (or CFB), can I deactivate it on a per call basis when I make local calls through my hub? Since the functionality it is trying to duplicate is Call Waiting, I would certainly want the ability to Cancel it for certain calls.</p>
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