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		<title>By: Aviary Launches Falcon, A Browser Based Image Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2808288</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviary Launches Falcon, A Browser Based Image Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we first covered the company, Aviary had kept most of its tools in private beta. Only four have become publicly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; Kawink Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2619025</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; Kawink Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we first covered the company about a year and a half ago, Aviary has kept most of its 15 planned tools (at least [...]</description>
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		<title>By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="529703969">Mangesh Nerkar</fb:name></title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2618657</link>
		<dc:creator><fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="529703969">Mangesh Nerkar</fb:name></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is very great team work. Its amazing, sleek and of course all you can do it directly from web browser.  Great application. I wish All RAD tools available on the browser !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is very great team work. Its amazing, sleek and of course all you can do it directly from web browser.  Great application. I wish All RAD tools available on the browser !!</p>
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		<title>By: Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; Sydney Web Design</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2618448</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; Sydney Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we first covered the company about a year and a half ago, Aviary has kept most of its 15 planned tools (at least [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; All about MICROSOFT</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2618423</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; All about MICROSOFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we first covered the company about a year and a half ago, Aviary has kept most of its 15 planned tools (at least [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; American News World - News And Technology</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2618422</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web &#124; American News World - News And Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we first covered the company about a year and a half ago, Aviary has kept most of its 15 planned tools (at least [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2618419</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviary Encroaches On Adobe Illustrator With Raven, The First Vector Graphics Editor For The Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we first covered the company about a year and a half ago, Aviary has kept most of its 15 planned tools (at least [...]</description>
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		<title>By: signature custom closets</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2599925</link>
		<dc:creator>signature custom closets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even small pieces, such as patterns or sound effects will be marketable. If the works are made within Aviary, buyers will have the security of knowing they are buying an original work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even small pieces, such as patterns or sound effects will be marketable. If the works are made within Aviary, buyers will have the security of knowing they are buying an original work.</p>
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		<title>By: Scottsdale tile</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2589527</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottsdale tile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice writeup. Fun and interactive i may say. Keep it up.</description>
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		<title>By: cool</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2571384</link>
		<dc:creator>cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you’ll be able to use them online as well as on your desktop. Meaning you essentially get the power of connectivity to the web, and the ability for the app to access your desktop in ways a typical web app can’t.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://doctorfinders.com/doctors-salt%20lake%20city-ut.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;salt lake city doctors&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you’ll be able to use them online as well as on your desktop. Meaning you essentially get the power of connectivity to the web, and the ability for the app to access your desktop in ways a typical web app can’t.</p>
<p><a href="http://doctorfinders.com/doctors-salt%20lake%20city-ut.html" rel="nofollow">salt lake city doctors</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aviary</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2568910</link>
		<dc:creator>Aviary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Profisoftware gewohnt ist, doch sieht man sehr genau, in welche Richtung es in Zukunft gehen wird. Techcrunch hat das Projekt [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Profisoftware gewohnt ist, doch sieht man sehr genau, in welche Richtung es in Zukunft gehen wird. Techcrunch hat das Projekt [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mdl</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-2516819</link>
		<dc:creator>mdl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone who makes their living in graphics, they already use photoshop, why would they ditch it for photoshop written in flex, which coincidentally will be an even larger resource hog?? its better to create &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artfire.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;handmade&lt;/a&gt; crafts, and you can sell it as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone who makes their living in graphics, they already use photoshop, why would they ditch it for photoshop written in flex, which coincidentally will be an even larger resource hog?? its better to create <a href="http://www.artfire.com" rel="nofollow">handmade</a> crafts, and you can sell it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: The Universal Desktop mobile edition</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1665910</link>
		<dc:creator>The Universal Desktop mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first became interested in Aviary when I found out that all of their tools were built using Flex. Having seen the demo it&#8217;s even more impressive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first became interested in Aviary when I found out that all of their tools were built using Flex. Having seen the demo it&#8217;s even more impressive [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OnyxRaven Blog &#187; QuickyFeed</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1507060</link>
		<dc:creator>OnyxRaven Blog &#187; QuickyFeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Awesome Online Art Tools [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MrAverage</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1502406</link>
		<dc:creator>MrAverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concrete Stain. I don&#039;t know if this is correct but I can see something like the following as possible business models.

Possibility1. Aviary grants free access to Users to create new content. The creators then puts content out for customers to purchase. When a customer purchases content a small fee is applied to each purchase and that fee goes back into Aviary is income.

Possibility 2. Aviary grants free access to Users to create new content. Part of the agreement between Aviary and User states that: Aviary will get a percentage of any and all items sold through market place. 

As users submit more items on the market place and more customers begin to purchase content revenue goes up. Might be slow at the start but as Shelley said this will open up the market for new artists and allow small / medium businesses to purchase work at affordable prices. 

I look forward to seeing all the tools. Remember this is not just graphic content but text, audio, video publishing suite. This could lead to so many places. Just think... 

A group of friends wants to create a comic book. It could be done. 
Someone else wants to write a cook book. It could be done.  
I have always wanted to make my own music CD. It could be done.  

If this gets off the ground (I really hope it does) it could possibly be the next step in business.  I&#039;m fairly sure that Avi has thought out the possible future in this. So far his touch has been Gold lets hope he gets a trifecta with this one. I&#039;m also sure that he will have a very large user base right out of the gate. MANY many users at Worth1000 are slavering of the upcoming release of Aviary.  
Done rambling. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concrete Stain. I don&#8217;t know if this is correct but I can see something like the following as possible business models.</p>
<p>Possibility1. Aviary grants free access to Users to create new content. The creators then puts content out for customers to purchase. When a customer purchases content a small fee is applied to each purchase and that fee goes back into Aviary is income.</p>
<p>Possibility 2. Aviary grants free access to Users to create new content. Part of the agreement between Aviary and User states that: Aviary will get a percentage of any and all items sold through market place. </p>
<p>As users submit more items on the market place and more customers begin to purchase content revenue goes up. Might be slow at the start but as Shelley said this will open up the market for new artists and allow small / medium businesses to purchase work at affordable prices. </p>
<p>I look forward to seeing all the tools. Remember this is not just graphic content but text, audio, video publishing suite. This could lead to so many places. Just think&#8230; </p>
<p>A group of friends wants to create a comic book. It could be done.<br />
Someone else wants to write a cook book. It could be done.<br />
I have always wanted to make my own music CD. It could be done.  </p>
<p>If this gets off the ground (I really hope it does) it could possibly be the next step in business.  I&#8217;m fairly sure that Avi has thought out the possible future in this. So far his touch has been Gold lets hope he gets a trifecta with this one. I&#8217;m also sure that he will have a very large user base right out of the gate. MANY many users at Worth1000 are slavering of the upcoming release of Aviary.<br />
Done rambling. <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RIA pedia - Rich Internet Applications - Its all about the user experience!</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1501688</link>
		<dc:creator>RIA pedia - Rich Internet Applications - Its all about the user experience!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Aviary - SaaS version of a Creative Suite?...&lt;/strong&gt;

This article on TechCrunch really caught my eye.  Apparently, the team from Worth 1000 have a new project called Aviary.

Aviary will provide both a marketplace for creative professionals to showcase and sell their artwork as well as a set of 14 online...</description>
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<p>This article on TechCrunch really caught my eye.  Apparently, the team from Worth 1000 have a new project called Aviary.</p>
<p>Aviary will provide both a marketplace for creative professionals to showcase and sell their artwork as well as a set of 14 online&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Concrete Stain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1501346</link>
		<dc:creator>Concrete Stain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good - looks to have money behind it -  but - I don&#039;t understand the business model,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good &#8211; looks to have money behind it &#8211;  but &#8211; I don&#8217;t understand the business model,</p>
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		<title>By: d24</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1499798</link>
		<dc:creator>d24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the times of people bringing up how a thing is similar to another thing (in a manner that suggest it&#039;ll null-out) should be over.  Points made in the article are clear about what these softwares orbit.

I think sometimes, people can unconsciously catch a whiff of the catch-22.  It&#039;s impossible to get stuck somewhere.  The elements that cause the notions of defeat are probably not real.  As in, if something seems really original to you, it&#039;s only because you don&#039;t know of anything else like it or the building blocks of it.  If everyone in the world blinked at the same time and thought about Myspace being pointless... Myspace would disappear and nobody would exactly know where it went to.

If nothing else, perhaps the community can explore better with especial catered tools.  If the whole scheme self-sustains in the ways needed for the hierarchy of authors to feed; win.

wut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the times of people bringing up how a thing is similar to another thing (in a manner that suggest it&#8217;ll null-out) should be over.  Points made in the article are clear about what these softwares orbit.</p>
<p>I think sometimes, people can unconsciously catch a whiff of the catch-22.  It&#8217;s impossible to get stuck somewhere.  The elements that cause the notions of defeat are probably not real.  As in, if something seems really original to you, it&#8217;s only because you don&#8217;t know of anything else like it or the building blocks of it.  If everyone in the world blinked at the same time and thought about Myspace being pointless&#8230; Myspace would disappear and nobody would exactly know where it went to.</p>
<p>If nothing else, perhaps the community can explore better with especial catered tools.  If the whole scheme self-sustains in the ways needed for the hierarchy of authors to feed; win.</p>
<p>wut?</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Muchnick</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1499635</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Muchnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke,

We actually have a fully functional working 3D modeller at this point, not just a renderer. A flex-based 3D modeller is far from inconceivable. As a developer you should realize that 3D in Flash was generally considered inconceivable until Papervision came out, and now new innovations based on PV3D emerge every day. 

We&#039;re definitely pushing the limits and quite proud of that fact. We wouldn&#039;t have taken on this project if didn&#039;t. 

Best,
Avi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke,</p>
<p>We actually have a fully functional working 3D modeller at this point, not just a renderer. A flex-based 3D modeller is far from inconceivable. As a developer you should realize that 3D in Flash was generally considered inconceivable until Papervision came out, and now new innovations based on PV3D emerge every day. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re definitely pushing the limits and quite proud of that fact. We wouldn&#8217;t have taken on this project if didn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Avi</p>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1499321</link>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a developer who works with Flash and Flex, and I might add papervision I think they have bitten of way more than they can deliver. The 3d editor just a model rendered in papervision. No innovation that I can see since there are no editing features. The idea of simple photo editors in flex is fine, but trying to create all these apps, especially the 3d one is plain silly. At the moment it all looks like vaporware to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a developer who works with Flash and Flex, and I might add papervision I think they have bitten of way more than they can deliver. The 3d editor just a model rendered in papervision. No innovation that I can see since there are no editing features. The idea of simple photo editors in flex is fine, but trying to create all these apps, especially the 3d one is plain silly. At the moment it all looks like vaporware to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter K</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1499076</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond what this is or could be - I could see me using this in a heartbeat (a hummingbird&#039;s heartbeat) just because I would be able to do some of the things I would usually do offline (and yes I actually purchase legal software).

So, now that I bought Flash CS3, Lightwave, Photoshop, Bryce Etc,, (poser lol)- what good is my computer beyond that license?

I am forever stuck trying to install legit! software (software I bought) so - even if this is a hint to the contrary - I really like the idea :)

Best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond what this is or could be &#8211; I could see me using this in a heartbeat (a hummingbird&#8217;s heartbeat) just because I would be able to do some of the things I would usually do offline (and yes I actually purchase legal software).</p>
<p>So, now that I bought Flash CS3, Lightwave, Photoshop, Bryce Etc,, (poser lol)- what good is my computer beyond that license?</p>
<p>I am forever stuck trying to install legit! software (software I bought) so &#8211; even if this is a hint to the contrary &#8211; I really like the idea <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting -- thought I&#039;d point to a very similar experiment done at the MIT Media Lab recently, by John Maeda&#039;s students:

openstudio.media.mit.edu

It seems like Aviary is a souped-up, industrial strength version of openstudio -- wonder if Aviary knows about this project?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting &#8212; thought I&#8217;d point to a very similar experiment done at the MIT Media Lab recently, by John Maeda&#8217;s students:</p>
<p>openstudio.media.mit.edu</p>
<p>It seems like Aviary is a souped-up, industrial strength version of openstudio &#8212; wonder if Aviary knows about this project?</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m normally very conservative about new sites/services/applications based on the Web 2.0 cool-aid but I think there might be something to this. Perhaps I&#039;m overly influenced by the beautiful site; maybe I&#039;m in a mellow mood -- who knows.

The bring to market place is what could actually make something like this into a viable service. How many good graphics artists are there out there that have a hard time getting their stuff into a market? And how many just plain regular folk would like a place to get such graphics without paying an arm and a leg.

Even if the people have Photoshop, I could see them eventually porting their work into this environment  primarily to be able to tie into such a marketplace. True, the online tools need to be able to handle all the processes for re-creating such work, but that is not an impossible task.

Additionally, this group has a built-in customer base on which to both extract ideas for development and use for testing. That&#039;s not something to discount, most Web 2.0 applications don&#039;t have a built-in customer base before the tool was developed. 

It really is that mapping of creative tools and marketing that makes this stand out. 

Will this attract the already employed graphics artist? Unlikely. But this will open up a nice niche market for the skilled but new and/or underemployed or  freelance graphics artist AND the small/medium business or personal site owner who doesn&#039;t have a lot of bucks looking for some graphics to incorporate into their site (without worries of being sued for &#039;theft&#039;), or music to embed into their podcast or YouTube video. 

Adobe is not losing sleep because this isn&#039;t a competitor. Nor is it a competitor to Inkscape or GIMP. This is something different. Whether it ends up becoming successful or not, at a minimum, it is innovative. 

And, OK yeah, I love the bird theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m normally very conservative about new sites/services/applications based on the Web 2.0 cool-aid but I think there might be something to this. Perhaps I&#8217;m overly influenced by the beautiful site; maybe I&#8217;m in a mellow mood &#8212; who knows.</p>
<p>The bring to market place is what could actually make something like this into a viable service. How many good graphics artists are there out there that have a hard time getting their stuff into a market? And how many just plain regular folk would like a place to get such graphics without paying an arm and a leg.</p>
<p>Even if the people have Photoshop, I could see them eventually porting their work into this environment  primarily to be able to tie into such a marketplace. True, the online tools need to be able to handle all the processes for re-creating such work, but that is not an impossible task.</p>
<p>Additionally, this group has a built-in customer base on which to both extract ideas for development and use for testing. That&#8217;s not something to discount, most Web 2.0 applications don&#8217;t have a built-in customer base before the tool was developed. </p>
<p>It really is that mapping of creative tools and marketing that makes this stand out. </p>
<p>Will this attract the already employed graphics artist? Unlikely. But this will open up a nice niche market for the skilled but new and/or underemployed or  freelance graphics artist AND the small/medium business or personal site owner who doesn&#8217;t have a lot of bucks looking for some graphics to incorporate into their site (without worries of being sued for &#8216;theft&#8217;), or music to embed into their podcast or YouTube video. </p>
<p>Adobe is not losing sleep because this isn&#8217;t a competitor. Nor is it a competitor to Inkscape or GIMP. This is something different. Whether it ends up becoming successful or not, at a minimum, it is innovative. </p>
<p>And, OK yeah, I love the bird theme.</p>
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		<title>By: IdleTogether</title>
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		<dc:creator>IdleTogether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Aviary plans on taking on artists online...&lt;/strong&gt;

Aviary   is a new project made by Worth1000. They plan on developing flex   application for online use by artists and create an ecosystem in   which artists using their products also post their products.
The project is quite a big one and a hard one to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Aviary plans on taking on artists online&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Aviary   is a new project made by Worth1000. They plan on developing flex   application for online use by artists and create an ecosystem in   which artists using their products also post their products.<br />
The project is quite a big one and a hard one to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tekin</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/13/aviarys-incredibly-ambitious-art-project/comment-page-1/#comment-1498203</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 06:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, this is not an art project. If we call this is an art project then we will have to call all all online editing products as art projects. We do not call Adobe as an art company, rather a software maker for artists. This project aims to be a marketplace for artists.

If their aim is to be a marketplace, why would an artist will use this service instead of istockphoto for selling rights, and why would an artist use this service instead of threadless and cafepress for selling their artwork on products. No professional artist will loose its valuable time by editing his artwork online if the product has no superiority. Are there any superiorities? If yes, than i would like to know it. And if it is worth, than we will definetly use it. Otherwise this will be just a playground for amateurs.     

And one thing more, 30-40 percent of the startups in the web 2.0 boom are trying to make offline solutions online without thinking the value to the consumer. For example, if you have a practical and quick online software that edits your photos in just a few steps and not require you to be a &quot;Professional Adobe User&quot;, that has a value to the end customer (e.g. picnik). But if you are targeting professional people be ready for the challenge and promise a very superior thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, this is not an art project. If we call this is an art project then we will have to call all all online editing products as art projects. We do not call Adobe as an art company, rather a software maker for artists. This project aims to be a marketplace for artists.</p>
<p>If their aim is to be a marketplace, why would an artist will use this service instead of istockphoto for selling rights, and why would an artist use this service instead of threadless and cafepress for selling their artwork on products. No professional artist will loose its valuable time by editing his artwork online if the product has no superiority. Are there any superiorities? If yes, than i would like to know it. And if it is worth, than we will definetly use it. Otherwise this will be just a playground for amateurs.     </p>
<p>And one thing more, 30-40 percent of the startups in the web 2.0 boom are trying to make offline solutions online without thinking the value to the consumer. For example, if you have a practical and quick online software that edits your photos in just a few steps and not require you to be a &#8220;Professional Adobe User&#8221;, that has a value to the end customer (e.g. picnik). But if you are targeting professional people be ready for the challenge and promise a very superior thing.</p>
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