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]]> By: Stephen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1499009 Stephen Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:16:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1499009 Microsoft is a distant third in our logs, or fourth, if you count Google Images separately from Google. Microsoft is a distant third in our logs, or fourth, if you count Google Images separately from Google.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1497021 Ryan Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:23:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1497021 MS is up in the search because it is the default search in IE 7 - NO OTHER REASON! MS is at it again with anti-competitive behavior, leveraging their dominance with Windows. They shouldn't be allowed to do this. MS is up in the search because it is the default search in IE 7 - NO OTHER REASON!

MS is at it again with anti-competitive behavior, leveraging their dominance with Windows. They shouldn’t be allowed to do this.

]]> By: RustyS http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1495897 RustyS Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:39:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1495897 I used to think Yahoo would be the only player that could give Google a run for their money in the search field. Yahoo still has some excellent properties in non-search areas which I use everyday (I mostly use Google for search, but still spend more time on Yahoo properties than Google properties when it comes to news, email, etc.) And their search quality itself is actually on par with Google's IMO. But they just haven't been able to convert that success in other areas to dominance in search. You'll always see childish knocks on comment threads like this , but Yahoo still has a lot of well-earned respect. But in the search space, it generally seems to get looked at as plan B. Honestly, I don't think anyone's going to mount a serious challenge to Google in the search sphere anytime soon. Maybe some startup that suddenly gains Facebook-like worship and adoration among college kids and the tech community could get enough buzz to see some significant marketshare growth. But of the existing powers I'm increasingly coming to the realization that Microsoft is probably the only one that could actually challenge (not beat, just give noteworthy competition) to Google when it comes to search. Live.com actually has some very solid search results and product offerings. And if Microsoft can bundle more integration with their OS and some of their major apps/platforms into the 'cloud' (such as Office, Xbox, Media Center, etc) they could have a pretty compelling product. I used to think Yahoo would be the only player that could give Google a run for their money in the search field. Yahoo still has some excellent properties in non-search areas which I use everyday (I mostly use Google for search, but still spend more time on Yahoo properties than Google properties when it comes to news, email, etc.) And their search quality itself is actually on par with Google’s IMO. But they just haven’t been able to convert that success in other areas to dominance in search. You’ll always see childish knocks on comment threads like this , but Yahoo still has a lot of well-earned respect. But in the search space, it generally seems to get looked at as plan B.

Honestly, I don’t think anyone’s going to mount a serious challenge to Google in the search sphere anytime soon. Maybe some startup that suddenly gains Facebook-like worship and adoration among college kids and the tech community could get enough buzz to see some significant marketshare growth. But of the existing powers I’m increasingly coming to the realization that Microsoft is probably the only one that could actually challenge (not beat, just give noteworthy competition) to Google when it comes to search. Live.com actually has some very solid search results and product offerings. And if Microsoft can bundle more integration with their OS and some of their major apps/platforms into the ‘cloud’ (such as Office, Xbox, Media Center, etc) they could have a pretty compelling product.

]]> By: AC_India http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1495451 AC_India Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:19:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1495451 I have been using the default search engine on Vista (MSN Live) for the last few months and I'm pretty happy with the search results. The relevancy is about the same as Google. The only drawback is that the quality of sponsored links doesn't quite matchup with Google, though there's been some improvement recently. My take is that MSN Live search seems to be headed in theright direction. I have been using the default search engine on Vista (MSN Live) for the last few months and I’m pretty happy with the search results. The relevancy is about the same as Google. The only drawback is that the quality of sponsored links doesn’t quite matchup with Google, though there’s been some improvement recently.
My take is that MSN Live search seems to be headed in theright direction.

]]> By: SearchDev http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494727 SearchDev Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:02:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494727 Don't think Vista has anythign to do with this. Most Vista OS have been shipped with new units and all new PCs have a search relationship and in all but Lenovo's case, the search default is NOT microsoft. The only thing that comes to mind is microsoft could have done an update to old IE6 browsers and change them to IE7 with Live default but that is unlikely as well. So surprising that these numbers are reported. Wonder what Comscore reports show Don’t think Vista has anythign to do with this. Most Vista OS have been shipped with new units and all new PCs have a search relationship and in all but Lenovo’s case, the search default is NOT microsoft.

The only thing that comes to mind is microsoft could have done an update to old IE6 browsers and change them to IE7 with Live default but that is unlikely as well. So surprising that these numbers are reported. Wonder what Comscore reports show

]]> By: fluencev http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494722 fluencev Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:57:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494722 #37 so awesome! i like this guy! #37 so awesome!
i like this guy!

]]> By: fluencev http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494709 fluencev Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:48:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494709 there are many person used to use "baidu"as the best search engine in China. sometimes i use google. never use msn or yahoo. I HATE yahoo in CHINA there are many person used to use “baidu”as the best search engine in China.
sometimes i use google.
never use msn or yahoo.
I HATE yahoo in CHINA

]]> By: hilton perez http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494682 hilton perez Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:05:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494682 Good post. Microsoft is doing well, although it seems that the competition will be only with Yahoo. Google is far from having a worthy competitor. Good post. Microsoft is doing well, although it seems that the competition will be only with Yahoo. Google is far from having a worthy competitor.

]]> By: Chris http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494680 Chris Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:03:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494680 Windows Live Search is improving dramatically, and Yahoo hasn't done much. Add that to the fact that Yahoo's bound to be bought by someone sooner or later, and you realize that it's no longer the huge Internet name. www.nerdcouncil.com Windows Live Search is improving dramatically, and Yahoo hasn’t done much. Add that to the fact that Yahoo’s bound to be bought by someone sooner or later, and you realize that it’s no longer the huge Internet name.

http://www.nerdcouncil.com

]]> By: Laugh out loud http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494671 Laugh out loud Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:58:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494671 @ Daniel Rueda There are two reasons I love techcrunch comments. The first reason is that I get some great insight from people who have something valuable and interesting to contribute. The second reason is to laugh out loud at space cadets like yourself who just blast away from left field with some some hyperbolic rantings as if anyone would give a fats rats ass about what you think. I cant wait till Techcrunch gets some form of comment rating system so we dont have to sift through 50 posts of crud to get to the gold. @ Daniel Rueda

There are two reasons I love techcrunch comments.

The first reason is that I get some great insight from people who have something valuable and interesting to contribute.

The second reason is to laugh out loud at space cadets like yourself who just blast away from left field with some some hyperbolic rantings as if anyone would give a fats rats ass about what you think.

I cant wait till Techcrunch gets some form of comment rating system so we dont have to sift through 50 posts of crud to get to the gold.

]]> By: Boogie http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494665 Boogie Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:43:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494665 Remove all the ads from Msn.com and I'll use it then. Too many things jump, run, shine on the page. Simplicity, Microsoft, s-i-m-p-l-i-c-i-t-y. No graphic ads (I'll ok the text ones) should be the main goal for you, Microsoft. Remove all the ads from Msn.com and I’ll use it then. Too many things jump, run, shine on the page. Simplicity, Microsoft, s-i-m-p-l-i-c-i-t-y. No graphic ads (I’ll ok the text ones) should be the main goal for you, Microsoft.

]]> By: Daniel Rueda http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494624 Daniel Rueda Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:43:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494624 these companies are too much up there ying YANG to see anything. google results are 3rd. third world. if they had a grip they would have produced something that can compete with the mylocator.com 1200+ vertical location based network. These crony sites are mumbo jumbo adsense cpc lost in space puppy mills. my message is put some thing out there or shut the )(*^*&&*(^%......up. Lack of vision and leadership (vision) will be the demise of these so-called search behemoths. My advice is get hungry or get off the pot. these companies are too much up there ying YANG to see anything. google results are 3rd. third world. if they had a grip they would have produced something that can compete with the mylocator.com 1200+ vertical location based network. These crony sites are mumbo jumbo adsense cpc lost in space puppy mills. my message is put some thing out there or shut the )(*^*&&*(^%……up. Lack of vision and leadership (vision) will be the demise of these so-called search behemoths. My advice is get hungry or get off the pot.

]]> By: Alex Lowe http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494517 Alex Lowe Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:26:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494517 I use Live almost exclusively now. I'm happy with the results and I like the portal page for viewing feeds, news, stocks, and other gadgets. It's my go to place, and I like the map and image search much better than google products. I'm still a gmail user and I use google maps on my mobile. -- Alex I use Live almost exclusively now. I’m happy with the results and I like the portal page for viewing feeds, news, stocks, and other gadgets. It’s my go to place, and I like the map and image search much better than google products.

I’m still a gmail user and I use google maps on my mobile.

– Alex

]]> By: serverjuice http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494470 serverjuice Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:15:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494470 Interesting, but I doubt Microsoft will make it too much further as a useful search engine Interesting, but I doubt Microsoft will make it too much further as a useful search engine

]]> By: Michael http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494444 Michael Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:45:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494444 Am I the only one that notices Google's usefulness as a search engine declines in direct, if not algebraic proportion, to their advertising sales? I entered "Appliance Parts Alameda San Jose" and Google didn't even return "Appliance Parts" on the Alameda in San Jose in the first page of results. Google Books or Google Scholar are even more Ridiculous. Michael Mellin Publisher Emeritus Random House Dictionaries Am I the only one that notices Google’s usefulness as a search engine declines in direct, if not algebraic proportion, to their advertising sales? I entered “Appliance Parts Alameda San Jose” and Google didn’t even return “Appliance Parts” on the Alameda in San Jose in the first page of results. Google Books or Google Scholar are even more Ridiculous.

Michael Mellin
Publisher Emeritus
Random House Dictionaries

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494434 Robert Seidman Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:38:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494434 I find all this chatter amusing. The search wars are over: Google won. Whoever is #2 or #3 or #4 in search, unless it's some new startup where it's all growth -- it just doesn't matter. But the trap here is thinking of these companies just in terms of search, they are much more. While I don't know what exactly to make of Nielsen/NetRatings new measurements where they are ranking sites by "total level of engagement" based on minutes of usage - there is definitely some interesting stuff to infer from that besides the ranking making AOL once again the king of the Internet. By this ranking even Yahoo is ahead of Google. Reading between the lines of minutes, page views, etc, it's very clear Google is kicking everyone's ass in search, but it's also clear tons of people are using Yahoo mail, MyYahoo, Yahoo sports, etc., and there is certainly a lot of value in that (for Yahoo) which mostly goes missed by the "search only" comparisons. On a level of engagement basis and a unique visitors basis, Yahoo is far from dead and way ahead of MSFT. Yahoo users spent almost twice as many minutes on Yahoo properties as MSN/Windows Live users spent. Anyway you look at it twice as many minutes is way better in a Yahoo vs. MSFT comparison but I'm not sure that's true on an EA Online vs. MSN/Windows live comparison. You can see the top 10 data and some search data for May based on the new ranking @ netratings.com I find all this chatter amusing. The search wars are over: Google won. Whoever is #2 or #3 or #4 in search, unless it’s some new startup where it’s all growth — it just doesn’t matter.

But the trap here is thinking of these companies just in terms of search, they are much more. While I don’t know what exactly to make of Nielsen/NetRatings new measurements where they are ranking sites by “total level of engagement” based on minutes of usage - there is definitely some interesting stuff to infer from that besides the ranking making AOL once again the king of the Internet. By this ranking even Yahoo is ahead of Google.

Reading between the lines of minutes, page views, etc, it’s very clear Google is kicking everyone’s ass in search, but it’s also clear tons of people are using Yahoo mail, MyYahoo, Yahoo sports, etc., and there is certainly a lot of value in that (for Yahoo) which mostly goes missed by the “search only” comparisons. On a level of engagement basis and a unique visitors basis, Yahoo is far from dead and way ahead of MSFT.

Yahoo users spent almost twice as many minutes on Yahoo properties as MSN/Windows Live users spent. Anyway you look at it twice as many minutes is way better in a Yahoo vs. MSFT comparison but I’m not sure that’s true on an EA Online vs. MSN/Windows live comparison.

You can see the top 10 data and some search data for May based on the new ranking @ netratings.com

]]> By: Bill Hartzer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494433 Bill Hartzer Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:37:48 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494433 Personally, I think it's more of a statistical blip than anything else; they certainly have some advantages when it comes to the fact that they have the default home page on PCs, but that advantage could change if they don't do something in the mobile market to get their search onto more handheld devices. Personally, I think it’s more of a statistical blip than anything else; they certainly have some advantages when it comes to the fact that they have the default home page on PCs, but that advantage could change if they don’t do something in the mobile market to get their search onto more handheld devices.

]]> By: Cord http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494417 Cord Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:18:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494417 Even if the US are the biggest market, there are more out there. In Germany for example the dominance of Google is even stronger and Yahoo is on the third place since years. Even if the US are the biggest market, there are more out there. In Germany for example the dominance of Google is even stronger and Yahoo is on the third place since years.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494415 Ryan Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:18:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494415 The increase in Microsoft Live searches is probably directly caused by the adoption of IE7 as it is the default search embedded in that browser. No one sets Yahoo as their default embedded browser search. The increase in Microsoft Live searches is probably directly caused by the adoption of IE7 as it is the default search embedded in that browser. No one sets Yahoo as their default embedded browser search.

]]> By: Blog Opinion http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494389 Blog Opinion Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:55:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494389 Search volume and results in Google is very high. Searchers feel hard to get information on Google. So they move to other search engines t find information required . Search volume and results in Google is very high. Searchers feel hard to get information on Google. So they move to other search engines t find information required .

]]> By: landmammal http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494378 landmammal Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:38:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494378 I think mobile specific sites will still be around a while. The iphone does do full pages well, but they take a long ass time to load over edge. Why bother with that when you can get a smaller page if you are just looking up a resteraunt? I know cause I have one of these stupid things and it isn't practical to browse on edge if you are in a rush. I think mobile specific sites will still be around a while. The iphone does do full pages well, but they take a long ass time to load over edge. Why bother with that when you can get a smaller page if you are just looking up a resteraunt? I know cause I have one of these stupid things and it isn’t practical to browse on edge if you are in a rush.

]]> By: Jack http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494377 Jack Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:31:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494377 I don't see how that could be. Nobody that I know uses MSN. Might it be that the numbers are inflated b/c many internet browsers are set to default with MSN as the homepage? But bad news for Yahoo! I went to Google to look up news on Yahoo! Check out this poll on whether MSFT has a chance against Google or Yahoo that someone put up. http://sodahead.com/poll/7737/ I don’t see how that could be. Nobody that I know uses MSN. Might it be that the numbers are inflated b/c many internet browsers are set to default with MSN as the homepage?

But bad news for Yahoo! I went to Google to look up news on Yahoo!

Check out this poll on whether MSFT has a chance against Google or Yahoo that someone put up.
http://sodahead.com/poll/7737/

]]> By: PaHa http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494357 PaHa Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:08:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/11/could-microsoft-knock-off-yahoo-to-become-googles-biggest-competitor/#comment-1494357 I think that we have not seen Yahoo's last word yet. I think that we have not seen Yahoo’s last word yet.

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