Here’s a juicy tip – we’ve been hearing about a new Yahoo social network initiative called Mosh, which is at mosh.yahoo.com but can only be accessed from inside the Yahoo offices. If you happen to be using the guest wifi at Yahoo, you should be able to access the site, although this may be shut down soon.
It’s likely this would replace Yahoo’s 360 social network service, which has never really gotten traction. The existence of Yahoo Mosh also most likely puts a bullet in any further speculation that they are in acquisition talks with Bebo, a somewhat unsubstantiated rumor from May. Last year Yahoo made a serious effort at acquiring Facebook but the deal was never closed.
Yahoo isn’t acknowledging that the product exists and generally won’t comment at all on this kind of thing. If anyone has a screen shot or more information, please email me confidentially.
Update 7/9/01 12:30 PM: Screen shot of Mosh is here. Plus it looks like Nokia has their own Mosh Project too.
Update 7/8/07 9:40 PM: First email tip in, a job description for a summer intern for what looks like this project. cut/paste below. I like that the minimum job qualifications include “You’ve got lots and lots of friends on Facebook, Myspace, etc.” and “You are damn funny.”
Hi [deleted],
I got your contact info from [deleted].
Our team is working on this new cool social network product and we are
looking for 2 interns for the summer. The perfect candidate shall be
very active on myspace and facebook, love social networks and be ready
to have a lot of fun during this internship!Can you let me know if you’d be interested in this position and also
forward to your friends at [deleted]?THANKS!!!
*****JOB DESCRIPTION
Position/Project Description:
About Yahoo!
The Internet is a big, busy place, and we at Yahoo! are proud to stand
out in the crowd. As the world’s number one Internet brand, servicing
over a half billion people, we’re determined to maintain our
commitment to delivering news, entertainment, information and fun…
each and every day.In order to maintain our position as one of the world’s most
trafficked Internet destinations, we’re always on the lookout for
people with big ideas and big talent to help us provide our visitors
with the innovative products and services they’ve come to expect from
Yahoo!. We’re looking for people like you.How Big Can You Think?
Project overview and job responsibilities:
- Develop go-to-market tactics for new social communication service
for young adults
- Evangelize the product among your peers in the Yahoo intern class,
including setting up brown-bag sessions, parties, etc.
- Gather and analyze product feedback during “alpha” (pre-launch) period
- Assist with prioritizing product changes during pre-launch period
- Assist with copy-writing and copy-editing
- Assist with creating & executing guerilla marketing campaigns (e.g.
on campus, in cities, etc.)
- Assist with product blog set-upMinimum job qualifications:
- The successful candidate for this role is a current student with an
active social life.
- You often find yourself organizing nights out with your friends
- You’re comfortable being the center of attention, or working behind
the scenes to make an event go off
- You may have organized and/or promoted parties, clubs, or concerts
- You’ve got lots and lots of friends on Facebook, Myspace, etc.
- After graduation, you see yourself getting into marketing, advertising, or PR
- Your enthusiasm is infectious
- You are damn funny
- You are a stickler for details
- You communicate well in conversation and in writing
- You are resourceful/scrappy
- You are creativePreferable job qualifications:
- see above
lol – what is this, seems like an open hack invitation by TC to penetrate mosh.yahoo?
no. it absolutely is not a request to hack the service. But if a visitor to yahoo sees it and wants to pass along a screen shot, I’m ok with that.
I’m glad they didn’t acquire anyone– I think they’re going to find out it’s easier for them to compete in this area than they thought, and Yahoo’s good with web services too.
Someone can’t ip spoof themselves as being on yahoo’s network? Just a thought, doubt it will work.
-jlb
mosh + yahoo opening up the home page = recipe for success.
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Yea, this site seems like an up incomming miricale for documents. I finally glad to see improvement in this market.
Yahoo “visitor” – heh.
Wow – go Webtech – within mere seconds she got it on Digg – awesome!
Mike – do you have any details to share on what Mosh is besides just a social network? What does it include, etc.? Will it tie into delicious and flickr?
No way Yahoo can afford Facebook now!
Bobby – if you do a search on google for mosh.yahoo.com there are some links to youtube videos coming in from that subdomain. Doesn’t tell us much, but it looks like there is some sort of video integration.
What about rivals.com – it was an acquisiton to create a niche for their upcoming social network (which seems to be mosh in that case)
Hmm, interesting to see what Yahoo can develop. IMO, I’m not sure they can be successful, big companies have trouble building social networks from the ground up, theirs just that creative growth barrier that comes with being corporate.
.. hey ..this is intresting yaar …. MIke — u do things really well
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Is the word used in some other way?
“But if a visitor to yahoo sees it and wants to pass along a screen shot, I’m ok with that.”
Haha, of course you are.
Hopefully this will be better than the 360! initiative.
This story is damn funny. The lengths the world’s biggest Internet brand will go to just to save a few pennies! I mean, they want interns to develop their next big product. And why do they have to spam people just to fill two positions? Sheesh. Good thing TechCrunch leaked this. I hope Yahoo! are embarrassed.
Sputnick- Interns are probably the best employees for giving insight into the epicenter of the social networking world (tell me, where do the best social networks grow from?). And as soon as they’ve finished their internships with Yahoo, they’re back into education and back to the place that fosters social network growth the best. Facebook, anyone? Sounds like a great plan to me.
I just hope that Mosh is a project name and not the final product name – I’ve got a funny feeling it is, though.
it’s good news for me, I like yahoo bookmark although I use blogger.
Well if anyone wants me to build a Social Network for them eg Yahoo i’m glad to help out. i believe i have the software n have deigned it in such a way as it will be a blockbuster hit on the web.
Having seen mosh in action, it’s actually an interesting concept. It’s classic Yahoo, and I’m not 100% sure it’ll work, but it’s way cooler than 360… Hell, it may be Yahoo’s first time doing any real Integration across products as well!
Pretty sure they’re looking at a late fall launch for this, so expect to get more tips in the coming weeks/months as they pull in more partners to look at it, review and contribute to the platform.
Jono: I have to agree with you. Yahoo has a lot of things that are part of a nice social network but has yet to make something out of it (maps, answers, ratings, bookmarks, flickr, upcoming.org, jobs, etc).
Yahoo, Hire me and I will show you how it’s done!
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Sorry, but I just cannot get excited about Mosh, it’s the pits (pardon the pun)
db
Is this the same thing as Nokia Mosh? (mosh.nokia.mobi, mosh.nokia.com)
Harri
Let’s see:
Photos: FlickR
Bookmarks: Del.icio.us
Events: Upcoming.org
Directory: Four11 Corporation now known as people.yahoo.com
Groups: Yahoo Groups
Homepages: GeoCities
Applications: Konfabulator now known as widgets.yahoo.com
All Yahoo needs to do is Moosh it all together!
Mosh stands also for “mobilize and share”. At least according to http://mosh.nokia.com.
I can imagine the marketing people planning this stuff: “Hey, let’s come up with a hip and cool name, the customer is building a site for 18-29yr segment.. you know, showing off, street cred, mobile stuff – something with energy in it..”
“Mosh? Perfect.”
Sigh.
Its Yahoo…nothing to see here…move on. Another Sun Micro in the making…so sad…
People need to stop thinking about social apps as me-too-applications. Just like the 360 and Wii are next-gen consoles, Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft are building next-gen apps, and they are building the platforms these applications will run on.
They know who your friends are (e-mail, instant messaging), they know what sites you like (search history, e-mailed links, delicious), they know what sites your friends like, they know your friends contact information, and on, and on.
With a flip of the switch any of these companies can build a me-too social application. Real networking applications will run at a deeper level, and include integrations with telecoms, entertainment, your refrigerator, and the grocery store.
Something like this:
“Thanks for shopping with us Mr. Long.. you know, your friend John R. purchased these same products, but he also purchased some whipped cream topping to go with his ice-cream, fudge and nuts. If you want, we can meet you at the door on your way out with a can of whipped cream! Thanks for shopping at Save Mart.”
or
“It looks like you’re making spaghetti. Your friend Mike Arrington has a recipe for spaghetti on recipes.com, and all you need in addition to your current order is Spanish sausage. If you want we can have some delivered to your home this evening. Mike also recommended Newcastle Brown Ale. Thanks for shopping at Save Mart.”
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hey, nice posting. but i think yahoo`s 360 service is good enough.
i bet you that kind of web service will be astonishng effect to ppl soon.
If the launch is done perfectly, they have a shot. Who else reaches the older demographic better than Yahoo? Nobody.
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I’ve seen the Mosh beta and I have to say it’s Yahoo! lowering itself to MySpace standards. One thing I hate about MySpace is the dog’s breakfast that people call homepages, allowing people to spew out god awful css nightmares is a recipe for visual disaster. Yahoo has done the same thing – basic layouts for newbies or advanced css editing capabilities for the freaks.
While i’m not a big fan of Yahoo! 360, I did like the semi-structured, clean look of the site ala Facebook.
Yahoo, please keep it simple and clean, let the applications do the talking, not the tiled, low contrast backgrounds.
In regards to Matt’s comment (#28) it’s unfortunately not geared towards the older demographic. It’s pretty obvious with a name like Mosh, who they are trying to capture.
Why I cann’t login with my exist yahoo account?
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If Yahoo! stops 360, they may get some younger people with this Mosh thing, but a lot of them are already on facebook or myspace and as a 30-something person, I know a lot of folks on 360 with me who will NOT join mosh if it is anything like myspace. In essence, they may gain some of the younger folks, but lose a lot of the current 360 users. I say if they do the mosh thing similar to myspace, they should keep 360 as well.
So I’m confused. All this talk about 360 closeing or is it just switching to a new type, ie: Mosh? I guess 360 dont get alot of the younger generation, and needs to do something. But wander what will happen to our blogs???
It’s no surprise at all. Yahoo is falling behind. Over half their visitors go to mail.yahoo.com, about four times as many as go to Yahoo search. If Y Mail dies, then the site is a goner…
Of course my site is 360!
And I cannot understand why Yahoo! would close it down. To me it seems as though it would be an action of cutting off ones nose to save the face.
Why detract from this?
If Y! needs to add an additional “social network” then ADD one. But do not just close one site down.
This is reactive; as opposed to being PROactive (as anyone who has ever even thought about management would know).
I have brought in more than a few people to Yahoo through my 360 page. Sadly, due to circumstances within my own life, my page is currently tabbed as private. But when I was public, (and anyone in the world who might have been sick and tired of all the garbage at myspace and facebook etc) could come to visit, I had many many people in a global sense wanting to know what is going on in my own little Wisconsin world. I do believe that these people will somehow return when I re~open my page. And Yahoo! willing I WILL be doing that in a little while.
At 49, and staying home, one would think this life could be as boring as all get~out. It is not. And thanks to my 360~World, I have many friends that do not find it boring either.
One does not get over 120,000 page views by being boring or writing about “poor, poor pitiful me” all the time. this is the boring mindset of (most of) the younger people/generation. One does nto acheive this ny writing about how much they hate their parents, and how everything in their lives IS their parents fault. This gets way too humorous for those iof us that have raised our children and have already heard those idiotic ignorant “lines”.
I get sick of idiocy very quickly and do not want any other blog site. This little corner of Yahoo! is more than enough for me.
In the meantime, I have had many requests to “join a friend” at MySpace and the others…
If I wanted a MySpace account, I would have one.
If I wanted all the crap that goes with those other sites, I would have that too.
…Although many a person has gotten their 15 minutes of fame by going to those sites. (I don’t think I have EVER seen Y360 profiled on Primetime)?
So while I am sure that the 360 could be improved at times, I am still very comfortable there.
Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.
XOXO
Anne
I’ve been a member of Yahoo 360 for two years, and in chat since 2001. First they kill off Yahoo Photos, “improve” it, and then force everyone to migrate to Flickr, and now they want to kill off 360?
What are the people at Yahoo smoking? Is this just to have makework projects for Yahoo’s army of programmers?
I agree with Anne, 360 is fine and more than enough for Me. I don’t need some site that caters to children; I’m 48.
Or maybe that’s the problem. I don’t throw my money away at stupid stuff like iPods or designer sneakers or jeans or “energy” drinks.
Looks to me like Yahoo is just finding more and more ways to kill their business. I pity the stockholders, but I pity us users even more.
l am not ready to go to something like a myspace mess.And l love 360 if yahoo can just iron out the winkles.l also feel that if yahoo wants to have a younger crowd in their service ,then set up a place for them and let the older users keep the 360.There are problems now but we are waiting it out.And if we wait this out then l think we should keep the 360.The younger ones do not like it because it is not like myspace.Let them have a place like that but do not stop the 360 social network. Things are so messy in the myspace that no one can not really enjoy it.
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