July 7, 2007

StartupWeekend: 70 Founders Create Company In One Weekend

Michael Arrington

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StartupWeekend is occurring right now in Colorado. The goal - create a startup in one weekend, which will be called vosnap. Everyone who attends is a founder, with equal equity. Ideas for what the company will be have been gathered since June. Last night the group decided which idea to pursue out of fifty submissions.

The winner: a product that facilitates quick decision making among a group. Choices will be sent out to the group via email and text messages, responses are gathered within a window of time.

The weekend will be spent building it, and launch it by midnight Sunday night.

The event is being run by some of the guys from TechStars (a Y Combinator-like incubator), as well as others, but it is not one of the TechStars startups.

We’ll be updating with more information as the project progresses. I’m fascinated to see what seventy people are able to put together over one long weekend of hacking

The live stream from the event is below.


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  1. Casey Capshaw

    Here at Startup Weekend, this is an amazing group of people. VoSnap is for real, alpha launching tonight!

  2. Erica

    Wow - I’ve never had the pleasure of being in one room with some many dedicated and talented folks in my life. The experience of a lifetime.

  3. Craig

    I’ve never been able to see myself wave to the camera while writing about waving to the camera. Some sort of self-referntial heaven I suppose.

  4. Tomas

    This is super cool guys! Crank it out 1d 5h 18m left

  5. sriram

    No big deal. I know a guy who started a company and sold it on ebay within 24 hours.

  6. Steve Webb

    It’s sweaty in here. :)

  7. Eric Marcoullier

    Well, the best companies are often those started because the founders have a need. With 70 founders and one weekend, they certainly need to be able to make quick group decisions ;)

  8. will

    I know this guy named Pierre that started (and coded) a company over the labor day weekend in 1997 . . . . I think the company is called eJay . . . eCay . .. eKay . . . or something similar. . .

  9. Luke Karisny

    “[...] a product that facilitates quick decision making among a group.” Only guys outside the valley get to have this much fun with a product idea. That’s pure comedy gold.

  10. patricia

    @ erica, on a side note, you’re blog is cool.

  11. lawrence

    interesting concept to watch, to say the least.
    i’d love to see how/where this goes…

    wow - 70 founders.
    that’s definitly overkill - lol; one can create a multimillion-dollar web co. with a couple people only.

    the bureaucracy just to order a pizza must be a real bi*ch.

  12. jenn

    @lawrence, we’ve taken any pizza that we get :)

  13. MajorNetworkNews

    wow, how many people does it take to screw in a lightbulb !

    60 of these people must be sitting around with there thumbs somewhere dark.

    I mean come on …

    - grab an ec2 server
    - write some rails code
    - create some graphics
    - deploy it

  14. Ronald Lewis

    I’m in Westminster … knew nothing about this project … would have enjoyed streaming it live via Justin.TV

  15. Gwen

    Actually, there’s 70 of us because we love to hang out with other people. We’re really growing as a team, learning how to work with strangers and (at least I’m) loving the flow of communication happening around us all the time.

    I’m here because the entrepreneurial energy is palpable. Never been part of a group quite like this. It’s an honor.

  16. John

    I smell a digg clone with a facebook app

  17. Don Wilson

    70 people to make a polling system. Wow. What a waste of talent.

  18. Mike Trotzke

    wow, I designed a tool like this on a plane ride to Cali a few weeks ago. Same idea, but I have’nt had time to finish it up. I even picked up ‘DecideAlready.com’ to publish it to.

  19. anonymous

    check out top20network.com, they have a similar tool, but gotta have a .edu email address from a top 20 school to get in, surely someone from those 70 people do, right?

  20. Smiley

    I think DecideAlready should acquire vosnap for $10k and a third round draft pick.

  21. Brian

    Question for those involved: How’d you get involved?

    :)

  22. Matt Galligan

    @Brian basically, it’s pretty easy…we just signed up at startupweekend.com and we were in! now, this is kind of an extraordinary case in that the folks that are the founders are pretty freaking smart. no “dead weight” if you will…

    All in all, this is freaking amazing thus far.

    So one last thing that I’d like to mention about Startup Weekend is that the idea isn’t to just make a cool product and get it out there. The idea is that we build an entire, fully functional entity in less than 3 days. That means not only developers and designers, but we’ve got a legal team, business development team, marketing and PR team…I mean, this thing is a whole company.

    In less than 24 hours, we had an idea, a pre-alpha, a design, advertisers, incorporation set up, trademark filed, not to mention…we got TechCrunched. I’m not bragging…I’m encouraging more people to maybe get something like this going…it’s not just about the company we create, it’s the experience…the people, etc.

  23. dag

    This is silly, and has a whiff of San Jose, circa 1999.

    Hey, I know! Why don’t we sell pets online? You can FedEx a labradoodle, right?

  24. Drama 2.0

    This is an interesting experiment, and if most of the participants are only doing it with the expectation that it will be a fun experience, that’s great.

    However I do think that, on a broader level, this is a reflection of the froth that exists within Web 2.0. The notion that you can create a viable “startup” (i.e. company - not product) in a weekend, is naive. And the fact that the concept selected by a group that ostensibly contained some smart and creative people is a Web 2.0 version of a simple polling application shows what I feel is one of the biggest problems facing Web 2.0: lack of innovation. We keep seeing copycats and clones of existing services, and entrepreneurs frequently attack the same “problems,” which in reality, aren’t problems that are the source of significant pain for average consumers or businesses. Of course, the free-flowing venture capital spigot is partially to blame for this. While there are a lot of intelligent entrepreneurs out there capable of creating great things, so much money is being thrown at less-than-innovative Web 2.0 concepts that it’s difficult not to take advantage of that. Why try to solve a real challenge when you can raise $1 million for a “social ______”?

    All of this said, Startup Weekend just might be Web 2.0’s version of Woodstock, and while I don’t think a viable long-term *business* will emerge, hopefully people have fun because the Web 2.0 Summer of Love won’t last forever.

    http://www.drama20show.com/200.....woodstock/

  25. dave mcclure

    hmmm…. i have a lot of respect for brad feld, and geeks in general, however i’ll be very surprised to see how 70 people can come together over a weekend and create an organized piece of software.

    without prior org structure & delegation, i’d imagine productivity would max out at around 10 people who’ve never worked together before trying to do something in

  26. EH

    I wouldn’t say “Woodstock” as much as Destination Imagination. Heck, Junior Achievement even. I think these things are great, and if they come up with anything to help the world burn out on trivial web concepts, then I’m all for it as well. Useful would be a plus.

  27. Cameron

    Many seem to have the impression that we have a ton of redundancy and bureaucracy - really we don’t. I too was doubtful as to the delegation and administration of tasks, however, you put several dozen driven and dedicated people room together and everything falls into place - there has been next to no friction and we are powering along. There is no time to waste with complex administration - as cliche as it sounds, you just get things done.

    Just the two cents of someone who has been immersed in this for the past 30 hours…

  28. Willy

    Choices will be sent out to the group via email… Do you mean like Relaytor?
    http://www.relaytor.com/

  29. Dmitriy

    I think it would be easier for a single person to build something like that in a day than for 70. The overhead of coordinating work of such a large team is very large, especially considering that it’s the first time these people work together. Learning to work as a group takes time, no matter how smart and dedicated you are.

  30. J-son

    Jeez, so many negative nancys around here. :/

    Good luck guys, and have fun. I’m looking forward to seeing the finished product!

  31. Thierry

    Damn why am I not there? Sounds like fun :)

  32. Evelyn Rodriguez

    Whoa, 70 people! When I first heard about the Startup Weekend I assumed they’d be breaking up into smaller teams and creating several startups, not one free-for-all.

    I know Google at one time (and I’d assume this still holds) had 3-person product development teams for many of their projects. More employees is not necessarily better, nor faster, nor cheaper, was one lesson learnt from the dot-com era (been there, done that).

  33. Peter Cooper

    I bet there was some cherrypicking involved to ensure it wasn’t a weekend of Rails vs Java vs .Net ;-)

  34. sputnick

    How many Coloradans does it take to create a startup?

    One to choose the business plan, another one to write the code, another one to post comments at TechCrunch, and a further 67 to buy the tee-shirt.

  35. Rich

    It’s interesting to read all the comments on here. I suppose I shouldn’t be all that surprised to note the difference in comments from those who are in attendance and those who are watching from the sidelines.

    Honestly, I walked in the door on Friday at 6pm with a lot of the same concerns and fears as the folks commenting here… I figured there’d be waaaay too many people and that the numbers would result in lots of duplication of effort, lots of wasted cycles from folks who were more or less observers, and a fragmented end-product. (I mean… do you ever need more than two or three core folks?)

    In reality, people have been amazingly cool, pretty damn ego-less, and committed to making something that really rocks.

    I get that it’d only take a few days (um… or a flight?) for a couple people to sketch out the design and flow or even basic programming for a tech play like this. I’ve even done that myself. But this isn’t just the TECH part that we’re building here. It’s a fully functioning company. In a weekend. Really. As a serial entrepreneur myself, you have no idea how cool it is to be able to walk four feet to the legal group, ask my question, and then get an answer or draft user agreement in like 20 minutes. Too cool.

    Hell… maybe today I’ll start putting together an HR Department. ;)

    Sign up tonight and check out our tools!

  36. drivencanvas

    So, one interesting side effect of this “extreme startup makeover” approach: no time to do competitive or market research. Someone tell these guys that they are already behind the competition. CircleUp http://www.circleup.com is over a year old, has funding, and looks like it does exactly the same thing.

  37. heri

    @everyone who is attending the weekend

    it would be much better if there were 7 teams of 10 people, with one team=1startup. and make it like a competition with a deadline. much more fun and much more productivity/head

  38. Michael Sitarzewski

    Thanks to everyone for taking the time to comment. The energy here is amazing, and while the participants have tried to express it, there just really isn’t a good way to do it justice.

    You would think that 70 people in a room, the majority of whom had never met, would be utter chaos. Not at all the way it is working out… this is a powerhouse of capacity that could continue to bang out ideas, even if once a quarter over a weekend, that rivals fully funded startups that take months and months to do.

    As far as circleup? Six full months to beta, another 3 or 4 to private invite, and a launch in April of 2007? No SMS, and no white labeling for fun and profit. Not even close.

    Seriously, 70 people, 54 hours… form zero to a product that easily rivals a funded effort is amazing. It might be the Kool-aid we had Friday night, but if you were here, you would understand. :)

  39. Drama 2.0

    “As far as circleup? Six full months to beta, another 3 or 4 to private invite, and a launch in April of 2007? No SMS, and no white labeling for fun and profit. Not even close.”

    These points are irrelevant. The key considerations are:

    1. The product you’re building has been built by others (as noted, Circleup is only one of a number of these services). You can even download free polling scripts that could be molded into what you’re creating. The differentiation between the features you mention you have and Circleup doesn’t is very minimal. I don’t think that these features will “make” or “break” either service and they could be easily replicated by any of your competitors. Most Web 2.0 startups fail to realize what tangible differentiation looks like. You need to have some sustainable advantage, whether it’s through defensible technology or a defensible business model.

    2. You have competitors with a significant head start. In the case of Circleup, the company has funding, appeared at DEMO and has retained a PR firm. More importantly, the management team also looks quite experienced. So while I personally don’t think these services are compelling business opportunities, it’s clear that Circleup is making a go at trying to build a real company. If I had to pick which service (VoSnap or Circleup) has a better chance at “success,” it’s clearly Circleup because the foundations of a real company have been put in place. Quickly building a product is no substitute for establishing the framework that enables you to successfully get that product to market.

    3. You mention that going from “zero to a product that easily rivals a funded effort is amazing.” Time to market is important, and I think there is a lot of validity to the concept of releasing products quickly to see if they sink or swim, but it’s also true that businesses that go through some planning cycle have a much better chance of success. Many businesses that would likely otherwise fail are never started because a simple analysis reveals them to be less-than-viable business opportunities. As I mentioned in my blog, this doesn’t mean that you need a bunch of MBAs doing market research and writing a 50 page business plan to create a successful startup, but a middle ground between these two schools of thought makes the most sense in my opinion. Going forward without much thought and paralysis by analysis are equally likely to result in failure.

    I’m sure Startup Weekend has been fun and it’s an interesting experiment, but I think if anybody expects this to result in a successful business, they’re likely to be disappointed.

  40. patricia

    @ drama, agreed.

    I personally think this kind of stuff is kind of cheesy, like the kind of stuff you see actors doing to try to get into the entertainment business versus their actually knowing how to get into the entertainment business.

    I didn’t realize that this is what the program format was. Either way, innovation is cool and glad to hear people are having fun.

  41. Michael Arrington

    patricia - this is people creating stuff for the sole pleasure of doing so. People who don’t see what it is, don’t get what makes silicon valley beautiful.

  42. Drama 2.0

    Michael: I think you meant to say “People who don’t see what is, don’t get what makes Boulder, Colorado beautiful.” :)

  43. Donald Noss

    Clever idea. Let me know if you want to borrow “The Clever Minkies” image for a little while. You know what they say about images. Worth a lottttttttt of words. And we’ve alreayd been designated as “Clever” around the world. After all, who wants their company to be considered “UnClever”.

    Good Luck Guys!

    “The Clever Minkies”
    minkies@TheCleverMinkies.com

  44. Michael Arrington

    Drama - silicon valley is an idea, not a place. :-)

  45. Drama 2.0

    So Silicon Valley is the new Atlantis? We need a slick marketing slogan for it like Vegas’ “What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.”

    “Silicon Valley. It’s more than a destination. It’s a way of life.”
    “Silicon Valley. That somewhere over the rainbow.”
    “Silicon Valley. Where dreams come true.”
    “Silicon Valley. How will you spend your first billion?”
    “Silicon Valley. Because you should have dated that geek in high school.”
    “Live. Dream. Silicon Valley.”

    Once VoSnap launches, let’s use it to find out which one should become Silicon Valley’s new official slogan. :)

  46. Matt

    No matter what happens, I think it’s a great example of how silly the silli-valley startup club is.

    As a native of CO, this just seems to be a bunch of migrants (many from california) trying to stroke the collective ego. Give a kid a powerbook and he thinks he’s an engineer.

    Not very representative of the ‘real’ CO startup scene at all, in my opinion.

    But I do wish them the best, it looks like a lot of fun and a great challenge.

  47. Michael Arrington

    drama - :-)

  48. Dave Winer

    Silicon Valley — Get the fuck out before it’s too late. :-)

  49. Derek Scruggs

    @Drama 2.0 says:
    1. The product you’re building has been built by others
    2. You have competitors with a significant head start.

    Ever hear of Google?

    Seriously, I’m not at the event and think it probably won’t turn into a viable long-term business, but it sounds like fun and I bet a lot of people are learning a lot of lessons much more quickly than it takes some of us to learn when starting a company on their own. Perhaps 3-4 other companies will spin out as a result. Or maybe not, but at least they’re giving it a shot and doing something productive with the weekend instead of just posting snarky comments on blogs.

  50. Derek Scruggs

    @Virtuous - Wow, a real, live native! Tell me, which tribe are you from?

  51. Jay (living in First Life)

    Silicon Valley - Where you can be Peter Pan and never grow up.

    Boulder, CO - We’re working on being a crunchier version of Silicon Valley.

  52. Bruce Adair

    Here at startup weekend we expect this to work and what has surprised all of us is the efficient segmenting of teams - egos have been sublimated and leaders have come to the front by building internal and external consensus. This is not necessarily an easy process, but many of us are anxious to see the results. And no matter the results, we are anxious to take what we have learned and lead VoSnap to market success or come together again and try again.

  53. Frank Russell

    Sounds like sweat shop 2.0.

    Congrats. Onshoring is here!

  54. Shanti Braford

    Anyone interested in putting something like this together in SF / Bay Area?

    Maybe see how the “70 founders” things work out in this scenario and either use that or adapt.

    I agree with many of the above commenters that founding teams of 5-10 would be better.

    (also question the “no dead weight” theorists above.. maybe no 100% dead weight, but if someone codes 30% of the app and someone else writes a few blog posts plugging it, that doesn’t exactly seem fair to get the same equity…)

    SF’ers feel free to ping me at: shantibraford (at) gmail

  55. gilltots

    Two comments:

    1) the video feed sounds like random electronic sounds to me, what’s up with that?
    2) seriously, 70 people? according to the mythical man month, this thing is never gonna be finished.

  56. Drama 2.0

    Derek: Google had significant differentiation, which is something that most Web 2.0 copycats, like VoSnap, lack. As part of a graduate research project at Stanford, Larry and Sergey developed a search algorithm (PageRank) that provided what many consumers obviously felt were better results (by the way, this algorithm has a patent, so there’s defensibility). At the same time Google was getting off the ground, the major search engines, like Yahoo, were becoming behemoth portals. Google leveraged its better technology and a simple interface that focused solely on search, to differentiate itself from the leading search players at the time.

    The bottom line is that too may Web 2.0 startups are attacking the same “problems” but are failing to understand how crucial differentiation is to success. In markets with low barrier to entry, differentiation can’t be slight or superficial - it has to be significant. There is plenty of room for success in competitive markets. First-mover advantage has actually been shown to have little impact on long-term success, but entrepreneurs should not underestimate the importance of differentiation.

  57. Dawn

    I think this is a fabulous idea. It was fun to read the blog, and I even learned a thing or two and got some ideas for my own business.

    Being a part of so much creative energy would surely be a thrill. I think the product itself is less than secondary. Sometimes in life it’s the trip, not the destination. And what a grand trip.

    Way to go team!

  58. Drivencanvas

    Despite my pointing out the competition, I think the whole idea of people getting together in this way is great. There’s no better way to get to know a bunch of new people than actually working on something together.

    Now, the whole blog/promote/post/stream thing seems a little “precious” to me, but hey, have fun.

  59. Micah

    Sometimes its just the process. Sometimes its the baking, not the selling of the cake. Sometimes, its ok to just do something.

    To understand it, experience it. Go do a startupweekend. Its free, can be done with any amount of people, and the end goal can be anything. There is no barrier to entry. There is no reason to not do it in your neck of the woods. Get out from behind your keyboards and blogs, and go do it.

    At the end of the day, its an experience. Which, by definition, is always great for some, mediocre for some, and sucks for others. And will always be critiqued, positively and negatively, by outsiders.

    Plus, everyone who was not there, but wanted to share in the experience in some way shape or form, was given the opportunity through the live feed and blogs. And, all feedback was read and evaluated. In the spirit of startupweekend, if you are wanting to have one in your town, Im sure the participants would be happy to discuss what they thought went well and what could have been done better.

    Talk from experience about experience. At the end of the day, if you feel like you missed out, then go do it your way. We did it our way, and not one person walked out disappointed in the experience. Its 2am Monday morning, I have to get up in 4 hours for work, and I am still thinking about the people I met (not the company we built) in last 3 days. How many times in one’s life is that true?

  60. Studi

    “Our appologies for not having something for you right now. We will launch soon.” It should be live by now… what a joke :)

  61. Matt

    @Derek: ‘native’ refers to that into which we are born, hence I am a native of Colorado being born here. But since you ask, I am of Cheyenne blood by my great-grandfather! My mother lived on the reservation until she was 14.

    Your comment is so typical of the ego-driven intelligence that shackles you.

    Thanks for all the horsepucky ‘marketing’ you’ve done helping spammers in your so-called career. :)

  62. Roshawn

    I’m only just hearing about this and think it’s great. Wouldn’t it be nice if would-be programmers and designers from smaller towns and other cities (not necessarily technology centers) get together and do something similar?

  63. Stu

    Say what you want about the group’s choice of product. If you are focused on that - you completely missed the point of the startupweekend exercise. I walked in the door on Friday knowing nothing about the people I’d be spending the rest of the weekend with or what their areas of expertise would be. The fact that a group of 70 people were able to come to agreement in a few hours on a single idea, narrowed down from 50 is an accomplishment by itself. When is the last time your company was able to do that? Even more amazing, we had the talent and drive among the group of volunteer participants to actually have a reasonable chance of succeeding in launching a fairly technical product.

    I had a fantastic time participating in Startupweekend. I witnessed (and hopefully contributed to) some pretty amazing discussions and decision making. On Friday, I walked in the door hoping for no more than good experience. If the product actually proves to be successful - BONUS!

  64. Derek Scruggs

    @Matt - I hate spammers and am buddies with the lawyer for the RBL. Good enough for you? In fact, I helped convince her to move to Boulder… from CALIFORNIA!!!

    ego-driven intelligence that shackles you

    Is there any other kind? :)

    Add I’m from Georgia BTW.

  65. Erica

    @Patricia (Comment #10) - Thanks! I’m hoping to do a full redesign soon :)

  66. Startup Minute

    60 founders to start a startup in 60 seconds. :)

  67. Stupidest Idea

    wow, so the idea of the company is to provide a service that strips away people’s priviledge of thoughts and decision making? People who use it might as well tattoo “dumb” on their forehead

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    reimbursed for thier participation as a list developer with $10.00 each. Your name will move up the
    list geometrically so that when your name reachs the #1 position, you will be recieving thousands
    of dollars in cash!!! What an oppurtunity for only $20.00 ($10.00 for each of the 2 people listed
    above.) Send it now, add your own name to list, and your in business!
    ~~DIRECTIONS~~FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS~~
    STEP 1: You do not need to re-type this letter to your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the
    begining of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select “copy” from
    the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computers memory.
    Step 2: Open a blank “notepad” file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. Form the
    edit menu, select “paste”. This will place a copy of the letter into the notepad so that it can add
    your name into the bottom of the list, and then change the numbers on the list.
    Step 3: Save your new notepad file as a “.txt” file. If you want to do your postings in different
    settings, you’ll always have this file to go back to.
    Step 4: Use netscape or internet explorer and try to search for various newsgroups (on-line
    forums, message board, chat sites, discussions).
    Step 5: Visit these message boards, and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text
    of this letter and selecting “PASTE” from, the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the hedder
    that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post
    message button. Your done with your first one! Congratulations…Thats it! All you have to do is
    jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30
    seconds for each news group! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN,
    THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF
    200** That is it! You will be recieving money from around the world within days! You may
    eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you will recieve. If you wish to
    stay annonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the post man will deliver it. **JUST
    MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT**
    Now the why part: out of 200 postings, say I only recieve 10 replies (a very low example). So then
    I made $100.00 with my name at #2 on the letter. Now, each of the 10 persons who sent me $10.00
    make the minimum of 200 postings, each with my name at #1 and only 10 persons resopnd to each
    of the origional 10, this is an additional $100.00 for me. So either way your ganna make a profit of $180 dollars, The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of
    people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles every day! JUST LIKE
    YOU ARE NOW!! So, can you afford $20.00 and see if it really works?? I think so…People have
    said, “what if the plan is played out, and no one sends you the money?” Well they won’t be getting any money, because the original poster of this document will take them off the list if they do not send the money and Anyway, it is
    only $20.00 for a chance at thousands. Estamites are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day,
    with thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember, play fairly and honestly, and this will
    really work. You would not want someone to cheat you the same way you may be cheating.

  69. Tim

    An attempt to create working project in a weekend is amazing thing. It’s fun event. But I totally agree that in this case focus lays on _event_ and _fun_ more than on value and results.
    To acheve results you need something more.
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