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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft LiveStation: Slingbox Without the Box</title>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Officially Launches Silverlight</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1594290</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft Officially Launches Silverlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has rolled out a number of Silverlight powered applications since then, including Live Station, Popfly and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch en français &#187; La télévision en direct grâce au P2P: 6 alternatives à tester</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1532612</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch en français &#187; La télévision en direct grâce au P2P: 6 alternatives à tester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] démonstration faite par Microsoft live station , la semaine dernière, a jeté un nouveau coup de projecteur sur le marché de la télévision en [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] démonstration faite par Microsoft live station , la semaine dernière, a jeté un nouveau coup de projecteur sur le marché de la télévision en [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ycyeoh</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1491726</link>
		<dc:creator>ycyeoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a free service provided by http://www.sayatv.com that allows anyone to broadcast from Webcam, Tuner Capture Card, WMV File playlist and MMS streams using P2P Mesh Network Broadcasting Technology.

SayaTV also provide some basic social network features that allows users to rate, comment and chatting on the live channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a free service provided by <a href="http://www.sayatv.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sayatv.com</a> that allows anyone to broadcast from Webcam, Tuner Capture Card, WMV File playlist and MMS streams using P2P Mesh Network Broadcasting Technology.</p>
<p>SayaTV also provide some basic social network features that allows users to rate, comment and chatting on the live channel.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1487215</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"To their defense, it didn’t really seem like a comparison, he was simply stating how it was different. Comparing would be listing things it can do that Joost can’t."

Uh, yeah.  Stating how something is different _is_ listing things that it can do that others can't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To their defense, it didn’t really seem like a comparison, he was simply stating how it was different. Comparing would be listing things it can do that Joost can’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, yeah.  Stating how something is different _is_ listing things that it can do that others can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: David Scott Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1487089</link>
		<dc:creator>David Scott Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, to the LiveStation team, "Slingbox ... but without the box" is a great tag, at least for early adopters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, to the LiveStation team, &#8220;Slingbox &#8230; but without the box&#8221; is a great tag, at least for early adopters.</p>
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		<title>By: David Scott Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1487085</link>
		<dc:creator>David Scott Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1487085</guid>
		<description>From China, Joost is AWFUL.  Let me repeat:  AWFUL.  Did I say AWFUL?  Bubblegum doesn't impress me, either.  (Yes, I know it's not really named "Bubblegum".)

Let's remember a TLA (three-letter acronym): QoS -- Quality of Service.

How is QoS in the States?  Frankly, I don't care since it doesn't mean a thing to me.  But I'm sick and tired to trying Joost and not getting a connection -- and some of the most bizarre messages I've seen.

I'm sure Joost will figure it out and I'm biased in favor of Joost because I'm a big fan of Skype.  But if LiveStation can serve me better, guess who I'll choose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From China, Joost is AWFUL.  Let me repeat:  AWFUL.  Did I say AWFUL?  Bubblegum doesn&#8217;t impress me, either.  (Yes, I know it&#8217;s not really named &#8220;Bubblegum&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s remember a TLA (three-letter acronym): QoS &#8212; Quality of Service.</p>
<p>How is QoS in the States?  Frankly, I don&#8217;t care since it doesn&#8217;t mean a thing to me.  But I&#8217;m sick and tired to trying Joost and not getting a connection &#8212; and some of the most bizarre messages I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Joost will figure it out and I&#8217;m biased in favor of Joost because I&#8217;m a big fan of Skype.  But if LiveStation can serve me better, guess who I&#8217;ll choose?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1486389</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm down there Mr. Arrington ...you seem a little hostile.

To their defense, it didn't really seem like a comparison, he was simply stating how it was different.   Comparing would be listing things it can do that Joost can't.  It didn't seem that was his motive for that statement.  But of course what do I know.  

It's definitely not really competing for the same space.  To me it's a totally different idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down there Mr. Arrington &#8230;you seem a little hostile.</p>
<p>To their defense, it didn&#8217;t really seem like a comparison, he was simply stating how it was different.   Comparing would be listing things it can do that Joost can&#8217;t.  It didn&#8217;t seem that was his motive for that statement.  But of course what do I know.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely not really competing for the same space.  To me it&#8217;s a totally different idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1486335</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Livestations team: 

I'm using a quote from your own video re slingbox. You also compare it to Joost in the video. So you're making your own comparisons.

the site is clearly labeled Microsoft Research.

If you want to control messaging, start with your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livestations team: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m using a quote from your own video re slingbox. You also compare it to Joost in the video. So you&#8217;re making your own comparisons.</p>
<p>the site is clearly labeled Microsoft Research.</p>
<p>If you want to control messaging, start with your own.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1486298</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After weeks of waiting, &lt;a href="http://www.last100.com/2007/07/06/review-livestation-more-live-tv-on-your-pc/" rel="nofollow"&gt;I finally got a chance to play with LiveStation&lt;/a&gt;. It's promising. In the  end it will, as ever, come down to content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After weeks of waiting, <a href="http://www.last100.com/2007/07/06/review-livestation-more-live-tv-on-your-pc/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.last100.com');">I finally got a chance to play with LiveStation</a>. It&#8217;s promising. In the  end it will, as ever, come down to content.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Arnott</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1486221</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Arnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to see that not even Microsoft's partners are using Vista. Opps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to see that not even Microsoft&#8217;s partners are using Vista. Opps!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1486147</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft has always been really good at emulating a technology, giving it away for free or at an affordable value, and while in the process, destroying the original innovator (in this case Slingmedia, or Orb Networks could be the victim). And then of course Microsoft will screw up the product and cancel the project all together. Remember Spotwatch, or PlaysForSure?

I really like the idea behind LiveStation, but would hate to see more established companies like Slingmedia lose market share to a "pet project" that could ultimately be shelved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft has always been really good at emulating a technology, giving it away for free or at an affordable value, and while in the process, destroying the original innovator (in this case Slingmedia, or Orb Networks could be the victim). And then of course Microsoft will screw up the product and cancel the project all together. Remember Spotwatch, or PlaysForSure?</p>
<p>I really like the idea behind LiveStation, but would hate to see more established companies like Slingmedia lose market share to a &#8220;pet project&#8221; that could ultimately be shelved.</p>
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		<title>By: captainsling</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1486046</link>
		<dc:creator>captainsling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't as optimized as Zattoo, which does exactly the same thing, uses less bandwidth, and is cross-platform. www.zattoo.com 

zattoo uses between 30-60k a sec bandwidth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t as optimized as Zattoo, which does exactly the same thing, uses less bandwidth, and is cross-platform. <a href="http://www.zattoo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zattoo.com</a> </p>
<p>zattoo uses between 30-60k a sec bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1486045</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will we get Tivo for LiveStation, so us video watchers don't need to have our scheduled dictated by the media producer?

In some respects, this is a step forward in on-line video like the fax machine was a step forward in the paperless office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will we get Tivo for LiveStation, so us video watchers don&#8217;t need to have our scheduled dictated by the media producer?</p>
<p>In some respects, this is a step forward in on-line video like the fax machine was a step forward in the paperless office.</p>
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		<title>By: Salvatore Iozzia</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1485932</link>
		<dc:creator>Salvatore Iozzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow tv on computer it will be a great fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow tv on computer it will be a great fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Master William</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1485647</link>
		<dc:creator>Master William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I would probably edit the title of the post Michael - it isnt 'Microsoft LiveStation'.  Just LiveStation.

And its pretty cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I would probably edit the title of the post Michael - it isnt &#8216;Microsoft LiveStation&#8217;.  Just LiveStation.</p>
<p>And its pretty cool</p>
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		<title>By: LiveStation Team</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/06/microsoft-livestation-slingbox-without-the-box/#comment-1485633</link>
		<dc:creator>LiveStation Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post. 

I'd like to add an important comments:


1. While Microsoft has a minority stake in Skinkers, this project is very much our own initiative. We are developing the platform on technology originally developed by Microsoft Research in Cambridge but now it's fair to say that we are going forward with our own engineers (with the occasional phone-call to the MS researchers for hard-to-find answers!.



Thanks again for the support and interest but please dnot:  "Microsoft is taking on Joost" or "Microsoft is taking on SlingBox". The correct slogan is "Skinkers is trying to get TV working on the computer!" and I can assure you, it is fun but hard!


All the best.


LiveStation Team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add an important comments:</p>
<p>1. While Microsoft has a minority stake in Skinkers, this project is very much our own initiative. We are developing the platform on technology originally developed by Microsoft Research in Cambridge but now it&#8217;s fair to say that we are going forward with our own engineers (with the occasional phone-call to the MS researchers for hard-to-find answers!.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the support and interest but please dnot:  &#8220;Microsoft is taking on Joost&#8221; or &#8220;Microsoft is taking on SlingBox&#8221;. The correct slogan is &#8220;Skinkers is trying to get TV working on the computer!&#8221; and I can assure you, it is fun but hard!</p>
<p>All the best.</p>
<p>LiveStation Team</p>
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