First Look At LiveStation: Not Much To Report
Michael Arrington
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LiveStation, the Microsoft Research/Skinkers P2P IPTV solution we reported on last night, has sent out beta invites to a number of users. I’ve tested it and have included screen shots below. Frankly, there isn’t much to report.
This is a Silverlight application and currently works only on Windows machines. If Silverlight is not installed on your machine it will be during the setup process.
Once installed, a window opens on your desktop and BBC World News is shown. It is exactly like turning on a one-station television (only BBC works with the application currently). You can watch the station live, turn the volume up or down, see information on the show and what’s up next, and close the application.
You can’t fast forward or reverse the program or pause it. There is no time shifting feature at all. It’s fun, but I won’t be opening it again until it includes time shifting capabilities and a lot more content.
The company left a comment on our original post asking us and others not to compare it to Joost or Slingbox. In the demo video they distributed yesterday, however, the presenter brought up both of those products and made his own favorable comparisons to those startups.
Screen shots below.











from the 2nd screenshot: I would guess that Sven Goran Eriksson is relieved to have been confirmed as a man.
you mean the third shot…that’s pretty funny actually.
http://www.movenetworks.com/
Check these guys out. Small plugin install, high quality video, and immediate time shifting. Awesome stuff.
Does anyone know when Sliverlight will be out of beta, so the rest of the world can start building applications?
They say not to compare it to Joost but it looks so similar to it.
I’ve never seen anything good coming out from Micro$oft in the last 10 years: the only good thing they have invented was ATLAS, that they didn’t understand what was for and left it aside, leaving open-source community to adopt it (fortunately) with the name of AJAX.
Now Silverlight wants to be just a competitor to AIR, that’s much better, lighter and easier to develop and maintain. I’m mostly an AJAX developer and I don’t like both of them, but when you’ve got any doubt about something, always pick the non-Micro$oft solution…
Silverlight is a competitor to Flash Player, not Air. Without trying to generalize too much, I imagine Silverlight is Microsoft’s response to YouTube taking over the online video world.
AIR is a way to extend web applications right on the desktop. AIR is a runtime and a SDK for creating desktop apps using web technologies. It’s not about video necessarily, though it can be since AIR apps can be built with Flash (Ajax, HTML, PDF too).
See more here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/
Your friendly AIR PR guy.
-Matt R
Though I will admit that it still leaves a great deal to be desired, I’m really looking forward to seeing where this product will go. Microsoft is never known to come out with their products first, but I think there’s a good chance for LiveStation to surpass its predecessors.
Question: Where is this live feed coming from? Does that somehow affect LiveStation’s ability to pause, rewind, etc.?
I agree there isn’t much to see
I also tested it today.
I scrolled up and down twice — not really that excited about it, I have to admit.
@Matt R
You are kidding when you say “” right?
Looks like you dont know what Silverlight can and Flash Player cannot do.
More: http://silverlight.net
Not much as of yet although it is nice to see some people using silverlight. Hopefully they will release this application with more channels or alteast skip, pause, and perhaps even record during thier “public launch” in october.
The truth is Micro$oft always tries to jump on every market, pushing it with cash and without any brilliant idea behind the products.
The case of LiveStation (although I haven’t tested, neither I want to) is a perfect example of the company profile: no new ideas, stealing others and pushing them with their own old, crappy and bureaucratic style (some examples: Windows from Macintosh, Office from Lotus, XBox from PlayStation, Zune from iPod, etc.).
In this case they proofed they wanted not to be cut off the market of online video broadcasting, coming up with a product that is not ready (as usual for them), bad designed (still usual) and without any innovation concept behind (this is the idea the company was based on).
As I won’t never buy an XBox or a Zune (despite of what you can think, not because of ideological reasons), since I have the originals (such as PlayStation or Wii, or iPod), so I won’t never use LiveStation as replacement for Joost (or even Babelgum: just because it’s an italian project…).
It is very easy to criticize the top dog. MS has a pile of cash and they have to put it to work. If you were looking at places to put your money there are worse strategies than trailing certain markets to see if they will develop and then enter them using your resources as leverage to gain market share.
Nerds call it unoriginal. Business folks call it a wise way to assure you are getting an ROI on your cash. Also, don’t be too quick to discount Microsoft’s creativity and investment in R&D. Look at their new imaging software and Surface computing capabilties.
MS is an easy target for folks that like to complain.
They have the power to developer the channel partners which could push their application out in front.
Only time will tell!
Phil ,
All what we are asking Microsoft is to innovate and come up with original ideas.
Is that much to ask?
What I’m curious about is why anyone cares or is focusing on the fact that Microsoft has a 10% share in Skinker? All technology, whether it’s hardware or software should be judged on it’s merits alone, not on who produced it. Putting all your trust or judgement behind something because of an overarching principle of hate or love for an organization will become a crippling associtation in the end. Prejudging a product because of it’s assocations isn’t just ignorant, it’s deadly, it means great ideas may go unnoticed or horrible ideas may rise to the top based simply upon a “popularity contest”.
Any comment that mentions “Microsoft” servers no purpose, because debating MSFT’s merits says nothing of LiveStations, yet those of weak mind may accidently and lazily transfer their feelings for one onto the other. By allowing that to happen one is turning off their ability for critical thought and instead allowing the masses to think for them.