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		<title>By: CitJ that works? Ukraine&#8217;s Highway to profitability &#124; Window on the Media</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-2551057</link>
		<dc:creator>CitJ that works? Ukraine&#8217;s Highway to profitability &#124; Window on the Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] journalism seemed to be a fad, judging from the failure of Skoeps.nl, Backfence or Oh My News Japan and the financial difficulties of Oh My News in Korea, not even talking about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Curtis Schantz</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-2513773</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis Schantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be (okay I am) biased but especially a year later when you look at how &quot;successful&quot; these targeted higher dollar sites have worked out I maintain that our model is not only more practical as a search tool - let&#039;s not use hot dogs as an example try a more practical application like beauty salons not just in the San Mateo area but say specifically near the 94062 zip code like our page at 
http://www.mustardpages.com/Directory/94062/5mi/Beauty-Salons/Page_1 and not only do you get localized results but if businesses choose to advertise for more exposure, the costs are minimal.  I think the model has to be much closer to the craigslist model than the yellowpages model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be (okay I am) biased but especially a year later when you look at how &#8220;successful&#8221; these targeted higher dollar sites have worked out I maintain that our model is not only more practical as a search tool &#8211; let&#8217;s not use hot dogs as an example try a more practical application like beauty salons not just in the San Mateo area but say specifically near the 94062 zip code like our page at<br />
<a href="http://www.mustardpages.com/Directory/94062/5mi/Beauty-Salons/Page_1" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.mustardpages.com/Directory/94062/5mi/Beauty-Salons/Page_1'>http://www.must...y-Salons/Page_1</a> and not only do you get localized results but if businesses choose to advertise for more exposure, the costs are minimal.  I think the model has to be much closer to the craigslist model than the yellowpages model.</p>
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		<title>By: Is it any wonder? : AccMan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1889294</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it any wonder? : AccMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of what I mean. Who are these marketing geniuses that dream up names like Froogle, Bitpass and Backfence? For a complete list of 2008&#8217;s candidates for the deadpool, check this list out. I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of what I mean. Who are these marketing geniuses that dream up names like Froogle, Bitpass and Backfence? For a complete list of 2008&#8217;s candidates for the deadpool, check this list out. I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is it any wonder? : AccMan</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1889293</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it any wonder? : AccMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of what I mean. Who are these marketing geniuses that dream up names like Froogle, Bitpass and Backfence? For a complete list of 2008&#8217;s candidates for the deadpool, check this list out. I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of what I mean. Who are these marketing geniuses that dream up names like Froogle, Bitpass and Backfence? For a complete list of 2008&#8217;s candidates for the deadpool, check this list out. I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#124; homes for sale by owner in lilburn ga &#124; homes for sale by owner in lilburn ga</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1506434</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; homes for sale by owner in lilburn ga &#124; homes for sale by owner in lilburn ga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#124; culending &#124; culending</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#124; culending &#124; culending</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#124; samcousins &#124; samcousins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1503844</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; samcousins &#124; samcousins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#124; jonahadkins &#124; jonahadkins</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1503823</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; jonahadkins &#124; jonahadkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, chasing the conversation is a lofty goal. Not much happening in my &#8216;hood. It is day one of course, but StreetAdvisor is still a ghost-town months on since its launch. Yourstreet has already packed up shop (see Yourstreet is Now Empty) and Backfence.com is first in the deadpool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1495765</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops...in my previous comment I meant to say &quot;why was the user NOT allowed to add his own?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230;in my previous comment I meant to say &#8220;why was the user NOT allowed to add his own?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1495762</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall a couple of years ago contacting BackFence about adding my city. Their response was something to the effect of, &quot;We&#039;ll be rolling out new cities in the near future.&quot; Of course, since I lived in a small town, the chance of them ever getting to it was slim to nil. 

The fact there was this &quot;top-down-command-and-control&quot; mentality to me spelled its demise. Why was it only within their purview to add new locations? Why was the user allowed to add his own, similar to the way NeighborhoodCrossing.com does it? In this era of UGC, sites like BackFence were a step back to the past, and no one I know looks forward to the past. 

I also agree with the conjecture that their choice of cities were not the most advantageous either. Add to that the snail&#039;s pace at which they added new ones...it was bound to end in disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall a couple of years ago contacting BackFence about adding my city. Their response was something to the effect of, &#8220;We&#8217;ll be rolling out new cities in the near future.&#8221; Of course, since I lived in a small town, the chance of them ever getting to it was slim to nil. </p>
<p>The fact there was this &#8220;top-down-command-and-control&#8221; mentality to me spelled its demise. Why was it only within their purview to add new locations? Why was the user allowed to add his own, similar to the way NeighborhoodCrossing.com does it? In this era of UGC, sites like BackFence were a step back to the past, and no one I know looks forward to the past. </p>
<p>I also agree with the conjecture that their choice of cities were not the most advantageous either. Add to that the snail&#8217;s pace at which they added new ones&#8230;it was bound to end in disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1490076</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 (Drama20) says something smaht - i want tailored information - that&#039;s what i thought feed readers were for. Topix seems to want to go this route, and it helps - i subscribe to my town&#039;s Topix feed. 

what are these &#039;other sites&#039; that already do this &#039;interest aggregation&#039;? do any of them work?

as for all the &#039;not choosing the right towns&#039; comments - bizarre. and that&#039;s all i have to say about that.

i agree on Backfence&#039;s implementation - not good. i remember hearing that it was some guy&#039;s customization of something or other. brilliant.

and the &#039;heavy hitter&#039; management - they had pedigrees in absolutely nothing, yet were hailed as saviours for hyperlocal. nothing against them - i just remember thinking how absurd all the &#039;management&#039; hype was.

as for &#039;the formula&#039; that sites should use to provide local news, learn from the people who are doing it right - google, topix, craigslist, and indymedia.org. this doesn&#039;t have to be rocket science.

oh, and don&#039;t choose a horrible name for your website. chance of failure for any local news venture is directly related to the corniness and predictability of the URL for said venture - as demonstrated.

-- paid for by PayPerComment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 (Drama20) says something smaht &#8211; i want tailored information &#8211; that&#8217;s what i thought feed readers were for. Topix seems to want to go this route, and it helps &#8211; i subscribe to my town&#8217;s Topix feed. </p>
<p>what are these &#8216;other sites&#8217; that already do this &#8216;interest aggregation&#8217;? do any of them work?</p>
<p>as for all the &#8216;not choosing the right towns&#8217; comments &#8211; bizarre. and that&#8217;s all i have to say about that.</p>
<p>i agree on Backfence&#8217;s implementation &#8211; not good. i remember hearing that it was some guy&#8217;s customization of something or other. brilliant.</p>
<p>and the &#8216;heavy hitter&#8217; management &#8211; they had pedigrees in absolutely nothing, yet were hailed as saviours for hyperlocal. nothing against them &#8211; i just remember thinking how absurd all the &#8216;management&#8217; hype was.</p>
<p>as for &#8216;the formula&#8217; that sites should use to provide local news, learn from the people who are doing it right &#8211; google, topix, craigslist, and indymedia.org. this doesn&#8217;t have to be rocket science.</p>
<p>oh, and don&#8217;t choose a horrible name for your website. chance of failure for any local news venture is directly related to the corniness and predictability of the URL for said venture &#8211; as demonstrated.</p>
<p>&#8211; paid for by PayPerComment</p>
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		<title>By: Chris De David</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1486824</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris De David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

These people are smart... one loss isn&#039;t the end of the world. When you are bankrupt you still have many opportunities.  Many billionaires go bankrupt one or more times in their lives.

cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>These people are smart&#8230; one loss isn&#8217;t the end of the world. When you are bankrupt you still have many opportunities.  Many billionaires go bankrupt one or more times in their lives.</p>
<p>cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris De David</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1486815</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris De David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AdvertiseSpace

yep, want to hear about all of them, not just the winners... keeps it real ;-)

PS: wonder if you are a TC employee, maybe in marketing division, haha :D
This is a great way to get feed back for article content ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AdvertiseSpace</p>
<p>yep, want to hear about all of them, not just the winners&#8230; keeps it real <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS: wonder if you are a TC employee, maybe in marketing division, haha <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
This is a great way to get feed back for article content <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hal Rucker</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1486157</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal Rucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which makes more sense for local: get deep and uniquely useful content in a small geography, then replicate that process for hundreds of towns, or launch the whole US with shallow content all at once? (Choose one, because you can&#039;t launch with deep local content everywhere at the same time.) InsiderPages went wide and shallow and it didn&#039;t work out. Backfence tried to go deep in several towns at the same time and it, too, couldn&#039;t get enough traction. Smalltown is going very deep in a very small geography, with plans to replicate that success quickly when we have all the technology and marketing knobs dialed in.

Smalltown is doing very well. Our informal blog documents our progress ( http://blog.smalltown.com ). In the area we serve, we get tens of thousands of monthly visitors, almost 3 percent of the population are registered users, and our sales numbers are accelerating.

It&#039;s certainly too early to say Smalltown has &quot;cracked the code&quot; on local advertising, but here is one way to judge our progress:

1. Go to www.smalltown.com/sanmateo and do a search for &quot;hot dogs&quot;. You get lots of great results that include a local pizza place that has hot dogs on its menu. There are videos, coupons and reviews. This is deep local content and we launched less than a year ago.

2. Now go to www.yellowpages.com and do a search for &quot;hot dogs&quot; in San Mateo, CA. After navigating to the category &quot;hamburgers and hot dogs&quot; you get 3 results. Two of them are sandwich shops outside San Mateo. One of them is a hamburger diner with one badly written review. This is an example of broad but shallow content.

3. Now go to www.citysearch.com and do the same search. Under the sponsored link for Pizza Hut, the top result is for a bakery outside of San Mateo. Under that is a listing for a golf course outside San Mateo. The third result is for a sushi restaurant, but at least it is in San Mateo. This is another example of broad but shallow.

4. Finally, go to www.yelp.com. I think Yelp is great and I don&#039;t really consider them a Smalltown competitor, but I was surprised by the results. Their search results for &quot;hot dogs&quot; in San Mateo are: (1) a sponsored link for dog daycare (2) a link to a dog park (3) a link to an event called the Maker Faire that I assume had hot dogs and (4) a listing for Ben Franks, which is a hot dog restaurant, but it&#039;s not in San Mateo.

IMHO: The best place for hot dogs in San Mateo is Jack&#039;s Grill next to the movie theater across the street from the Smalltown office. Try the apple chicken sausage. But you wouldn&#039;t know that from any of the &quot;broad and shallow&quot; sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which makes more sense for local: get deep and uniquely useful content in a small geography, then replicate that process for hundreds of towns, or launch the whole US with shallow content all at once? (Choose one, because you can&#8217;t launch with deep local content everywhere at the same time.) InsiderPages went wide and shallow and it didn&#8217;t work out. Backfence tried to go deep in several towns at the same time and it, too, couldn&#8217;t get enough traction. Smalltown is going very deep in a very small geography, with plans to replicate that success quickly when we have all the technology and marketing knobs dialed in.</p>
<p>Smalltown is doing very well. Our informal blog documents our progress ( <a href="http://blog.smalltown.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://blog.smalltown.com'>http://blog.smalltown.com</a> ). In the area we serve, we get tens of thousands of monthly visitors, almost 3 percent of the population are registered users, and our sales numbers are accelerating.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly too early to say Smalltown has &#8220;cracked the code&#8221; on local advertising, but here is one way to judge our progress:</p>
<p>1. Go to <a href="http://www.smalltown.com/sanmateo" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.smalltown.com/sanmateo'>http://www.smal...wn.com/sanmateo</a> and do a search for &#8220;hot dogs&#8221;. You get lots of great results that include a local pizza place that has hot dogs on its menu. There are videos, coupons and reviews. This is deep local content and we launched less than a year ago.</p>
<p>2. Now go to <a href="http://www.yellowpages.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.yellowpages.com'>http://www.yellowpages.com</a> and do a search for &#8220;hot dogs&#8221; in San Mateo, CA. After navigating to the category &#8220;hamburgers and hot dogs&#8221; you get 3 results. Two of them are sandwich shops outside San Mateo. One of them is a hamburger diner with one badly written review. This is an example of broad but shallow content.</p>
<p>3. Now go to <a href="http://www.citysearch.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.citysearch.com'>http://www.citysearch.com</a> and do the same search. Under the sponsored link for Pizza Hut, the top result is for a bakery outside of San Mateo. Under that is a listing for a golf course outside San Mateo. The third result is for a sushi restaurant, but at least it is in San Mateo. This is another example of broad but shallow.</p>
<p>4. Finally, go to <a href="http://www.yelp.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.yelp.com'>http://www.yelp.com</a>. I think Yelp is great and I don&#8217;t really consider them a Smalltown competitor, but I was surprised by the results. Their search results for &#8220;hot dogs&#8221; in San Mateo are: (1) a sponsored link for dog daycare (2) a link to a dog park (3) a link to an event called the Maker Faire that I assume had hot dogs and (4) a listing for Ben Franks, which is a hot dog restaurant, but it&#8217;s not in San Mateo.</p>
<p>IMHO: The best place for hot dogs in San Mateo is Jack&#8217;s Grill next to the movie theater across the street from the Smalltown office. Try the apple chicken sausage. But you wouldn&#8217;t know that from any of the &#8220;broad and shallow&#8221; sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In thinking through a hyperlocal strategy for a startup, I&#039;ve decided that it&#039;s not enough to serve a local population, because many Internet users think of themselves in more global terms. For the interests that are local, there are already sites that list events, businesses and news. Common wisdom says that city newspapers can no longer afford to cover the local beat, and that citizen journalism will fill that gap, but there&#039;s a big dropoff in quality of reporting and few citizens are willing to put journalistic labor into their reporting. Local citizen journalism can work, I believe, but it needs to choose a large enough target audience and speak its language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In thinking through a hyperlocal strategy for a startup, I&#8217;ve decided that it&#8217;s not enough to serve a local population, because many Internet users think of themselves in more global terms. For the interests that are local, there are already sites that list events, businesses and news. Common wisdom says that city newspapers can no longer afford to cover the local beat, and that citizen journalism will fill that gap, but there&#8217;s a big dropoff in quality of reporting and few citizens are willing to put journalistic labor into their reporting. Local citizen journalism can work, I believe, but it needs to choose a large enough target audience and speak its language.</p>
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		<title>By: Drama 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485985</link>
		<dc:creator>Drama 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hyper-local is the future/present of news and information distribution.&quot;

In theory. To some extent, you have to wonder just how interested people are in reading about the town&#039;s little league championship, what happened at the church BBQ on Saturday went and what was decided at the last City Hall meeting. I would argue that the future of news and information distribution is more likely to be hyper-targeted than hyper-local. That is, most people, faced with increasingly little free time, have very specific interests and would probably be most receptive to services that enable them to efficiently and accurately aggregate news and information about those interests. Obviously, there are services like this out there and I think they&#039;re more likely to have long-term success than services which are focused on very narrow local topics.

Perhaps Backfence executed poorly or was ahead of its time, but one thing is clear: it&#039;s going to be a lot more difficult for user-generated content and citizen media efforts to become a real force. Even if you believe that the mainstream media isn&#039;t serving consumer needs well, Backfence shows that simply being non-mainstream won&#039;t guarantee success either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hyper-local is the future/present of news and information distribution.&#8221;</p>
<p>In theory. To some extent, you have to wonder just how interested people are in reading about the town&#8217;s little league championship, what happened at the church BBQ on Saturday went and what was decided at the last City Hall meeting. I would argue that the future of news and information distribution is more likely to be hyper-targeted than hyper-local. That is, most people, faced with increasingly little free time, have very specific interests and would probably be most receptive to services that enable them to efficiently and accurately aggregate news and information about those interests. Obviously, there are services like this out there and I think they&#8217;re more likely to have long-term success than services which are focused on very narrow local topics.</p>
<p>Perhaps Backfence executed poorly or was ahead of its time, but one thing is clear: it&#8217;s going to be a lot more difficult for user-generated content and citizen media efforts to become a real force. Even if you believe that the mainstream media isn&#8217;t serving consumer needs well, Backfence shows that simply being non-mainstream won&#8217;t guarantee success either.</p>
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		<title>By: Oran</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485567</link>
		<dc:creator>Oran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backfence was a courageous effort that was followed closely by many in the local news business.  

Hyper-local is the future/present of news and information distribution.  If we&#039;ve learned anything from Web 1.0 and 2.0, it&#039;s that a great idea doesn&#039;t always equal a profitable business - especially when you are one of the first guys in the game.   

Savvy news managers will integrate Backfence&#039;s best ideas into their evolving news content delivery models.

Best of luck to visionaries like Susan - and her believers - that get &quot;IT.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backfence was a courageous effort that was followed closely by many in the local news business.  </p>
<p>Hyper-local is the future/present of news and information distribution.  If we&#8217;ve learned anything from Web 1.0 and 2.0, it&#8217;s that a great idea doesn&#8217;t always equal a profitable business &#8211; especially when you are one of the first guys in the game.   </p>
<p>Savvy news managers will integrate Backfence&#8217;s best ideas into their evolving news content delivery models.</p>
<p>Best of luck to visionaries like Susan &#8211; and her believers &#8211; that get &#8220;IT.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin L.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485559</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backfence essentially spent 3 million dollars to scale 13 less-than-desirable cities. 

@TJ - You&#039;re totally right. The sight was really hard on the eyes and confusing to understand. If you&#039;re playing to smaller cities, the best advice is always easiest: (KISS) Keep it Simple Stupid.

We&#039;ve made a lot of mistakes in our efforts, but our initial plan has gotten us to where we are today. We&#039;ve scaled by listing every business in the U.S. and making them searchable within all the major search engines. A business can easily &#039;claim&#039; their listing and customize it. 150K signed-on in cities big and small with NO SALESFORCE. We hope it&#039;ll be enough.

As for Backfence employees, I think they&#039;ll be okay finding a job. Just like many of us who learn from our mistakes, they saw what worked and what didn&#039;t - first hand.

Sincerely,
Kevin Leu
www.merchantcircle.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backfence essentially spent 3 million dollars to scale 13 less-than-desirable cities. </p>
<p>@TJ &#8211; You&#8217;re totally right. The sight was really hard on the eyes and confusing to understand. If you&#8217;re playing to smaller cities, the best advice is always easiest: (KISS) Keep it Simple Stupid.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve made a lot of mistakes in our efforts, but our initial plan has gotten us to where we are today. We&#8217;ve scaled by listing every business in the U.S. and making them searchable within all the major search engines. A business can easily &#8216;claim&#8217; their listing and customize it. 150K signed-on in cities big and small with NO SALESFORCE. We hope it&#8217;ll be enough.</p>
<p>As for Backfence employees, I think they&#8217;ll be okay finding a job. Just like many of us who learn from our mistakes, they saw what worked and what didn&#8217;t &#8211; first hand.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Kevin Leu<br />
<a href="http://www.merchantcircle.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.merchantcircle.com'>http://www.merchantcircle.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: metarand &#187; Putting local back on the fence</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485530</link>
		<dc:creator>metarand &#187; Putting local back on the fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Duncan Riley has noted that Backfence has recently closed its doors. The founders, who had taken $3m in venture funding [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Duncan Riley has noted that Backfence has recently closed its doors. The founders, who had taken $3m in venture funding [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485518</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of scary. Most employees and Backfence executives have to stay entry level. They might have hard time finding jobs anywhere. 


For example, founders  or executives can&#039;t no longer get second chance or ask for VC money.  :( Banks, government, and IRS have their records.

Best way to sell their million dollar homes and start living apartment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of scary. Most employees and Backfence executives have to stay entry level. They might have hard time finding jobs anywhere. </p>
<p>For example, founders  or executives can&#8217;t no longer get second chance or ask for VC money.  <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Banks, government, and IRS have their records.</p>
<p>Best way to sell their million dollar homes and start living apartment.</p>
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		<title>By: ED</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485501</link>
		<dc:creator>ED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand people who take several millions and try to start something. I think it&#039;s more proper to start any project without money, then when you see positive movements you can take some money to make your growing faster.

Any plan is just a words on paper and there is no any guarantee of success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand people who take several millions and try to start something. I think it&#8217;s more proper to start any project without money, then when you see positive movements you can take some money to make your growing faster.</p>
<p>Any plan is just a words on paper and there is no any guarantee of success.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485493</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not that surprised to hear Backfence joining the deadpool.  The locations that were chosen were not destination cities.  I&#039;m curious as to what other &#039;local city&#039; sites TC readers use for news, information, community, etc.  Seems like all the big sites (citysearch, aol guides, digital cities, etc.) also miss the mark because they aren&#039;t &#039;local&#039; enough.  Any small local, city sites working well for anyone (besides craigslist)?  I own 3 city sites for destination cities in Southern California (http://www.beachlocal.com).  The difference is, I&#039;m a one-man show with no investors and yet I have real revenue &amp; profit each month.  I can&#039;t believe Backfence had 18 people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not that surprised to hear Backfence joining the deadpool.  The locations that were chosen were not destination cities.  I&#8217;m curious as to what other &#8216;local city&#8217; sites TC readers use for news, information, community, etc.  Seems like all the big sites (citysearch, aol guides, digital cities, etc.) also miss the mark because they aren&#8217;t &#8216;local&#8217; enough.  Any small local, city sites working well for anyone (besides craigslist)?  I own 3 city sites for destination cities in Southern California (<a href="http://www.beachlocal.com)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.beachlocal.com'>http://www.beachlocal.com</a>).  The difference is, I&#8217;m a one-man show with no investors and yet I have real revenue &amp; profit each month.  I can&#8217;t believe Backfence had 18 people.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Kaiser</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485452</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard it many times that people learn more from their mistakes than they often do from their successes.  I definitely like learning about what isn&#039;t working (then I try and see if I am replicating any of their behaviors / strategies).  

There are a number of sites who are looking to target this space.  It will be interesting to see which ones get to scale first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard it many times that people learn more from their mistakes than they often do from their successes.  I definitely like learning about what isn&#8217;t working (then I try and see if I am replicating any of their behaviors / strategies).  </p>
<p>There are a number of sites who are looking to target this space.  It will be interesting to see which ones get to scale first.</p>
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		<title>By: No Surprise</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/05/backfence-joins-the-deadpool/comment-page-1/#comment-1485443</link>
		<dc:creator>No Surprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key lesson here is that investor capital is a liability at times. Short term investors like VC&#039;s seek a quick exit, but the business model may not support an exit in a time line that supports short term investors (venture capitalists). 

Businesses always have Mr. Long versus Mr. Short as financing options - Mr. Long looks for bootstrapping and other creative financing in contrast to Mr. Short&#039;s venture capital and other short term investors. 

Backfence needed financing that makes Mr. Long happy. Too bad, interesting idea, poor financing decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key lesson here is that investor capital is a liability at times. Short term investors like VC&#8217;s seek a quick exit, but the business model may not support an exit in a time line that supports short term investors (venture capitalists). </p>
<p>Businesses always have Mr. Long versus Mr. Short as financing options &#8211; Mr. Long looks for bootstrapping and other creative financing in contrast to Mr. Short&#8217;s venture capital and other short term investors. </p>
<p>Backfence needed financing that makes Mr. Long happy. Too bad, interesting idea, poor financing decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, BackFence was a good idea that was implemented horribly.  Their local sites lacked any kind of interesting , relevant content and frankly were a mess to look at.  Not surprising they crashed and burned.

BackFence&#039;s demise and the lack of traction for similar sites like Smalltown.com spells an end to hyper-local sites that try to do one town at a time.  That&#039;s just not sustainable or cost-effective.  Sites like Topix and a few others that apply their technology on a nationwide basis seem to be doing much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, BackFence was a good idea that was implemented horribly.  Their local sites lacked any kind of interesting , relevant content and frankly were a mess to look at.  Not surprising they crashed and burned.</p>
<p>BackFence&#8217;s demise and the lack of traction for similar sites like Smalltown.com spells an end to hyper-local sites that try to do one town at a time.  That&#8217;s just not sustainable or cost-effective.  Sites like Topix and a few others that apply their technology on a nationwide basis seem to be doing much better.</p>
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