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	<title>Comments on: Patent Wars: Local.com Nabs Local Search Patent</title>
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		<title>By: aztfotcmci</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1530215</link>
		<dc:creator>aztfotcmci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 06:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! yqygirhogult</description>
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		<title>By: The Global Venture</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1504576</link>
		<dc:creator>The Global Venture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Location based Internet: state of the art...&lt;/strong&gt;

In one of my previous pots I shared with you an idea about providing a location based vision to the Internet.
Today I have found some similar initiatives:
1 ) GeoURL 
"GeoURL.org&#160;is a location-to-URL reverse directory. This will a...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Location based Internet: state of the art&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>In one of my previous pots I shared with you an idea about providing a location based vision to the Internet.<br />
Today I have found some similar initiatives:<br />
1 ) GeoURL<br />
&#8220;GeoURL.org&nbsp;is a location-to-URL reverse directory. This will a&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1483103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The industry is simply too young still to have patents on all this stuff... it's like patenting the hammer and nail - some of these things are obvious. 

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The industry is simply too young still to have patents on all this stuff&#8230; it&#8217;s like patenting the hammer and nail - some of these things are obvious. </p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Concrete Stain</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1482110</link>
		<dc:creator>Concrete Stain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We seem to be locked into a whacked patent system - because as soon as we rewrite the rules - we null out patents that have been making alot of people alot of money -

 - since they already have the money from the bad patents they will fight to keep them .... (they already are)

-RB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We seem to be locked into a whacked patent system - because as soon as we rewrite the rules - we null out patents that have been making alot of people alot of money -</p>
<p> - since they already have the money from the bad patents they will fight to keep them &#8230;. (they already are)</p>
<p>-RB</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1481475</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew is right about the execution, but I don't know if they mean very little. They seem to have a lot of value to whoever has the patent, but it's not going to earn them success in their relationship with their users.
What's the point of having a patent system for software ideas? It's like patenting "Development of resorts and hotels in the moon" and start selling licenses for whoever wants to build there.. This "patents are worthwhile because we had the ideia first" makes no sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew is right about the execution, but I don&#8217;t know if they mean very little. They seem to have a lot of value to whoever has the patent, but it&#8217;s not going to earn them success in their relationship with their users.<br />
What&#8217;s the point of having a patent system for software ideas? It&#8217;s like patenting &#8220;Development of resorts and hotels in the moon&#8221; and start selling licenses for whoever wants to build there.. This &#8220;patents are worthwhile because we had the ideia first&#8221; makes no sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: beyondwww</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1481404</link>
		<dc:creator>beyondwww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very much agree to Andrew patents really dont mean much and the credential are questionable the usability is so limited.

&lt;a href="”http://" rel="nofollow"&gt;Beyondwww&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very much agree to Andrew patents really dont mean much and the credential are questionable the usability is so limited.</p>
<p><a href="”http://" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/');">Beyondwww</a></p>
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		<title>By: Slappenstance</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1481296</link>
		<dc:creator>Slappenstance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is complete crap. If they had real IP then fine, but they don't. Hopefully this patent will be deemed useless. This is nothing more than extortion. Local.com should be ashamed if they start demanding licensing fees from companies. This bullshit has to stop. Compete on the quality of your product or go out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is complete crap. If they had real IP then fine, but they don&#8217;t. Hopefully this patent will be deemed useless. This is nothing more than extortion. Local.com should be ashamed if they start demanding licensing fees from companies. This bullshit has to stop. Compete on the quality of your product or go out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Value of a junk patent and patent strategy of a company</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1481261</link>
		<dc:creator>Value of a junk patent and patent strategy of a company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] key to success is to maximize the real, inherent value of the patent and take full advantage of the its perceived [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] key to success is to maximize the real, inherent value of the patent and take full advantage of the its perceived [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1481255</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so they just become the buyout targets of the big 3 web co's</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so they just become the buyout targets of the big 3 web co&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Basicity</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1481033</link>
		<dc:creator>Basicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an excellent and relevant domain name.</description>
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		<title>By: Sunny Kalara</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480914</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Kalara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few months ago, this patent might have had some perceived value but after the Supreme Court's recent decision on obviousness and what is "patent worthy", I strongly doubt it if this patent can survive a spirited challenge.

Also the patent only has one claim, which is extraordinarily uncommon for a non-design patent and generally happens only if the patent offices trashes everything that is initially claimed and throws you a bone. 

But patents have different purpose too - to give an impression of value to the investors and to increase the stock value, and in this case at least that part seems to have worked well.

To Rich Skrenta:

The patent was filed on July 30, 2003 but a related provisional patent application was filed on July 31, 2002. So the prior art references to knock out this patent need to be earlier then July 2001.  The references circa July 2002 can only be used to argue obviousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few months ago, this patent might have had some perceived value but after the Supreme Court&#8217;s recent decision on obviousness and what is &#8220;patent worthy&#8221;, I strongly doubt it if this patent can survive a spirited challenge.</p>
<p>Also the patent only has one claim, which is extraordinarily uncommon for a non-design patent and generally happens only if the patent offices trashes everything that is initially claimed and throws you a bone. </p>
<p>But patents have different purpose too - to give an impression of value to the investors and to increase the stock value, and in this case at least that part seems to have worked well.</p>
<p>To Rich Skrenta:</p>
<p>The patent was filed on July 30, 2003 but a related provisional patent application was filed on July 31, 2002. So the prior art references to knock out this patent need to be earlier then July 2001.  The references circa July 2002 can only be used to argue obviousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480803</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patients mean very little. Look at all the engines who use Page Rank. its how you execute and local.com sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patients mean very little. Look at all the engines who use Page Rank. its how you execute and local.com sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Skrenta</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480767</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Skrenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some prior art...we did a lot of the stuff described in this patent at Topix back in 2003-2004.  Our 'zurl' local directory product (since shuttered) also did geolocation within a website and extended that locality info to other associated pages on the site.  Although I agree with the other commenters that this stuff seems pretty obvious.  There's probably even earlier examples from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some prior art&#8230;we did a lot of the stuff described in this patent at Topix back in 2003-2004.  Our &#8216;zurl&#8217; local directory product (since shuttered) also did geolocation within a website and extended that locality info to other associated pages on the site.  Although I agree with the other commenters that this stuff seems pretty obvious.  There&#8217;s probably even earlier examples from others.</p>
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		<title>By: Stock Prices.</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480669</link>
		<dc:creator>Stock Prices.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 03:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real reason why  stock jumped high on high tech stock.

1. Milk prices is too damn expensive. It's like having greedy Government or people don't care about kids and young children without getting vitimin &#38; calicum. You see when kids died of diseases. Can governmnet afford to pay health care and medical expense. Nope. Not even government special loans. 

2. Gas prices is too damn expensive. All oil corporate executives have billion dollar homes, corporate jets, golden parachute, and don't care about people. The higher oil prices that goes on middle east and the world. They will be violence, riot, suicide nuts and bolts. When you ask question on corporate executives. 

Do you care about global warming and ice berg falling apart? Yes. 
How about terrorism? Nope.


If stock jump higher on startups &#38; technology. Most likely we can pay off food cheaper than babyboomers food. I think the babyboomers were responsible for economic corruption. They took all the money, hedge funds, and brought million dollar homes.  Now, I assume about 70% 20-40 years old are now living parents home rather than newly million dollar homes. Half of them can't get it. Only 50-90 years old can get better home loans. You will see lot of gray hairs people living American dream. You will see lexus. 


Can babyboomers fix it? I don't know.


I refuse to help babyboomers now. I'm creating startup company to help me reduce the milk and oil prices.  Pay off kids health is better way to shape the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real reason why  stock jumped high on high tech stock.</p>
<p>1. Milk prices is too damn expensive. It&#8217;s like having greedy Government or people don&#8217;t care about kids and young children without getting vitimin &amp; calicum. You see when kids died of diseases. Can governmnet afford to pay health care and medical expense. Nope. Not even government special loans. </p>
<p>2. Gas prices is too damn expensive. All oil corporate executives have billion dollar homes, corporate jets, golden parachute, and don&#8217;t care about people. The higher oil prices that goes on middle east and the world. They will be violence, riot, suicide nuts and bolts. When you ask question on corporate executives. </p>
<p>Do you care about global warming and ice berg falling apart? Yes.<br />
How about terrorism? Nope.</p>
<p>If stock jump higher on startups &amp; technology. Most likely we can pay off food cheaper than babyboomers food. I think the babyboomers were responsible for economic corruption. They took all the money, hedge funds, and brought million dollar homes.  Now, I assume about 70% 20-40 years old are now living parents home rather than newly million dollar homes. Half of them can&#8217;t get it. Only 50-90 years old can get better home loans. You will see lot of gray hairs people living American dream. You will see lexus. </p>
<p>Can babyboomers fix it? I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>I refuse to help babyboomers now. I&#8217;m creating startup company to help me reduce the milk and oil prices.  Pay off kids health is better way to shape the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480637</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very disturbing. The fact that the patent department will issues patents for such ubiquitous processes serves no one. I don't even think it serves Local.com as it is only likely to result in more indefensible lawsuits.

As I am starting a multi-local service for rentals, iRent2u.com, this has a direct impact on how I can provide localized services to my customers. Like hell am I going to limit my service because some company decides to try and create patents on sliced bread and air.

All this is, is another win for lawyers. We should be working to assist entrepreneurs instead of tie their hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very disturbing. The fact that the patent department will issues patents for such ubiquitous processes serves no one. I don&#8217;t even think it serves Local.com as it is only likely to result in more indefensible lawsuits.</p>
<p>As I am starting a multi-local service for rentals, iRent2u.com, this has a direct impact on how I can provide localized services to my customers. Like hell am I going to limit my service because some company decides to try and create patents on sliced bread and air.</p>
<p>All this is, is another win for lawyers. We should be working to assist entrepreneurs instead of tie their hands.</p>
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		<title>By: wino</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480597</link>
		<dc:creator>wino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh cmon...this is ridiculous! The US patent system is out of control and plain BROKEN. The silliest things these days are getting patents. This does nothing to foster innovation, it actually damages it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh cmon&#8230;this is ridiculous! The US patent system is out of control and plain BROKEN. The silliest things these days are getting patents. This does nothing to foster innovation, it actually damages it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480590</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool and good for them.</description>
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		<title>By: Virtual Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480589</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtual Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Local.com Awarded Patent...&lt;/strong&gt;

If you're new to this blog, you may want to subscribe to it's RSS feed.  Thanks!According to Techcrunch and confirmed by the USTPO, Local.com has been awarded a local search patent.  TechCrunch says:
According to the text of the patent, it covers wha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Local.com Awarded Patent&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re new to this blog, you may want to subscribe to it&#8217;s RSS feed.  Thanks!According to Techcrunch and confirmed by the USTPO, Local.com has been awarded a local search patent.  TechCrunch says:<br />
According to the text of the patent, it covers wha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: karthik</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480557</link>
		<dc:creator>karthik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a second. This directly encroaches the maps.google.com's "Find  Businesses"  space. So when is Local.com gonna sue google maps?????????????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a second. This directly encroaches the maps.google.com&#8217;s &#8220;Find  Businesses&#8221;  space. So when is Local.com gonna sue google maps?????????????????????</p>
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		<title>By: lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480555</link>
		<dc:creator>lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>local.com  sucks. they're operating at a loss.
they should just sell themselves to a larger co. who can better utilize the co./domain name somehow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>local.com  sucks. they&#8217;re operating at a loss.<br />
they should just sell themselves to a larger co. who can better utilize the co./domain name somehow</p>
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		<title>By: Kewtr</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/02/patent-wars-localcom-nabs-local-search-patent/#comment-1480502</link>
		<dc:creator>Kewtr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't mind legitimate patents, but it seems like I could get one for placing baby wipes next to the toilet these days. I encourage anyone who would like to use this idea to contact me for licensing.

There's got to be some way to fix things in the patent office, but I'm sure it's a complicated process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind legitimate patents, but it seems like I could get one for placing baby wipes next to the toilet these days. I encourage anyone who would like to use this idea to contact me for licensing.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s got to be some way to fix things in the patent office, but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a complicated process.</p>
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