Comments on: HotorNot Founder James Hong Talks About Past, Future

By: Kenny

Kenny — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:16:35 +0000

And people well continue to spam you, because since nobody cares about the spam.

By: Kenny

Kenny — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:14:25 +0000

PS Sorry I thought was to rate people not to date them?

By: Kenny

Kenny — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:10:52 +0000

And now Hot or Not tends to attract the spammers who wants to date you, even those you are not in the same area.

Maybe it has something to do with Hot or Not being owned by a company that also owns dating sites?

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By: Michelle

Michelle — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:21:05 +0000

Dates happen !!! Every Single day can be a date, but finding the kind of person you wanna date is tough !!! You sometimes owuld just rather just stay back home and enjoy yourself alone than have da company of someone screwed !!! ; )
Whaddya think ???

By: Ryan Thompson

Ryan Thompson — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:43:01 +0000

I’ve come across a new, disgusting thing on the site: Coded racism. Theres a lot of people with racist-related things in their profile text. But since nobody moderates the site anymore, or at least nobody who understands American slang (i.e. the site probably got outsourced to India), this crap will remain on the site.

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By: Rodney Rumford

Rodney Rumford — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:19:41 +0000

These guys are smart and master marketers. I admire what they have built. They adapt quickly to changes. They were one of the first companies to get their application onto the facebook platform.

The Hot or Not facebook application now has over 1,180,000 users on facebook. They are already monetizing their facebook integration.

You can see the rating and review of their facebook integration here:
http://facerevi...gets-hot-or-not

Cheers,
Rodney Rumford

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:57:31 +0000

James, thanks for taking the time to post. I was wondering about that marriage stat but as you explained it TC readers usually are not the best judge of success in some situations.

By: anon

anon — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:04:01 +0000

Jim and James oughta read the “4 Hour Work Week”!! I don’t understand why they would walk away from that kind of cash flow and why they couldn’t find a staff member or two who could keep the site going with little oversight.

By: Nemrut

Nemrut — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:49:52 +0000

Dominic, the number of divorces has declined due to lower rates of marriage since wwii. however the rates of divorce among those that do marry has dramatically increased since wwii.

By: jim

jim — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:35:15 +0000

These guys are hardly legends… But they think they are, oy.

By: Dominic

Dominic — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:09:49 +0000

Perhaps if numnuts Nemrut spent more time reading ‘ real life” news he would know that for the first time since ww2, the divorce rate has dipped well below 50%. And for the record, I think most guys who visit Hot or Not are looking for T & A, not a bride.

Dominic

By: james hong

james hong — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:37:56 +0000

Scott,

Match.com tends to attract the 25 and older demographic.

HOTorNOT’s audience is strongly in the under 25 category..

I’m not sure how old the people you interact with are, but perhaps that is why you haven’t come across HOTorNOT. The factor you mention is also a plausible explanation.

cheers
james

By: Scott Yates

Scott Yates — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:46:58 +0000

James,

Thanks for coming on here and commenting.

I do hang out on TC, but I also interact with real people. I know a bunch who have met through Match or one of the others, but I’ve never heard of any, until today. (I’ve personally set up three couples who got married, and I always ask how people met.)

Given what Michael up in post #12 says, perhaps people are just telling me they met on Match.com or by chance when it was really HotOrNot.

Whatever works.

James, Good luck with your new strategy, and let Mike and all of us TC readers know how it goes.

By: patricia

patricia — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:14:30 +0000

@drama, hehe. You make me laugh Lots of people I respect like hot or not, but I don’t like it, and that’s to no offense to anyone, of course. I’ve known some women who have had bad experiences with it, where their photos were posted by other people and then used as a form to harass them, etc. It was years ago but I’ve never been a fan since.

By: Nemrut

Nemrut — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:14:13 +0000

..hate to be judgemental, but 10 marriages/day as a result of this svc doesnt bode well for the ever increasing divorce rate, which by the way, approaches 70% within first 5yrs of marriage here in the U.S.

By: james hong

james hong — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:00:00 +0000

The funny thing about HOTorNOT is that we traditionally undercount metrics when talking about them. The numbers given out in my posts are all accurate, and i’m not doing any handwaving like #19 suggests.

Scott, I understand your skepticism based on the fact that you don’t know anyone that has married off our site..but it quite simply boils down to the fact that by virtue of you hanging out on TC, you are not likely to know that many people on our site.. based on demographics.

That, and the fact that in truth, 7,000 people a year is not that many. If I said “here is a list of 50,000 people in the world”, the odds you know even 1 person on it are fairly low. Even if I took that to the United States, which has about 300 million people, the odds are pretty low.

We have over 500,000 people using the dating part of HOTorNOT at any given time, and we flow through multiples of that per year. Just by virtue of scale, 10 marriages a day is cool, but actually not that amazing (once you consider the scale of the site).

But from a personal satisfaction standpoint, 10 marriages a day is very cool to us, and makes us feel our work is worthwhile.

By: anonymouse

anonymouse — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:51:54 +0000

seven years old is not a startup.

By: Drama 2.0

Drama 2.0 — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:35:04 +0000

“Up to ten marriages per day can be tracked to couples who originally met at the site.”

“Up to” means that it could be zero, too, so this is a useless statistic.

What I want to know is:

1. How many hookups?
2. How many divorces?

Patricia: yuck? How quickly you forget the virtual flower you bought me.

By: patricia

patricia — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:39:09 +0000

Yuck. Sorry.

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:34:31 +0000

Tim – great line. Right on.

By: Scott Yates

Scott Yates — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:25:20 +0000

Michael in #12: Way to go! Marriage and fatherhood are great.

I wasn’t trying to denegrate anyone’s marriage, I just didn’t know of any. Now I’ve heard of one. If they really have more than 3,000 per year, I think we would know about it.

#13: Shame on you. Michael told us about his great story, and you call him “superficial.” Shame shame shame.

By: nothing new

nothing new — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:06:13 +0000

this is way too web 1.0. and plenty of plentyoffish out there way better than hotornot. hotornot is just trying to come out from dead pool and catch up with other free dating sites. as you can see on alexa, after the fee was lifted in April, the site got a nice spike. But soon after the traffic was down sharply. and they had to implement a new strategy in June to boost another spike. but the spikes are not sustainable. when people are talking about hotornot, they are talking about 1999. hotornot is certainly a legend, but it’s a past legend.

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:35:08 +0000

You know you’re in a bubble when the business of selling goods and services to customers can’t compete with the business of selling companies to investors.