Comments on: Slapvid: Peer to Peer Video in Your Browser http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/ Startup and Technology News Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:18:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Tasty Morsels #3 | Community Site News http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-2433539 Tasty Morsels #3 | Community Site News Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:34:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-2433539 [...] Slapvid - Does peer-to-peer video streaming in the browser. It’s just a proof of concept now and it doesn’t bring anything useful to users but it could bring great bandwidth savings to content providers. (Unfortunate name though, is happy slapping just a UK thing?) [...] [...] Slapvid - Does peer-to-peer video streaming in the browser. It’s just a proof of concept now and it doesn’t bring anything useful to users but it could bring great bandwidth savings to content providers. (Unfortunate name though, is happy slapping just a UK thing?) [...]

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1475992 David Mackey Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:51:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1475992 This is a pretty good idea as far as video de-centralization and ensuring video quality, but a pretty competitive market right now. This is a pretty good idea as far as video de-centralization and ensuring video quality, but a pretty competitive market right now.

]]> By: 1-Click Media http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1464455 1-Click Media Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:38:51 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1464455 Our company works on the same concept to make evrybody able to watch DVD-quality videos inside their browser. We did a real good case for French Tennis Open, take a look: http://www.fft.fr/action/one-click/videocast.asp I am not sure Java pplet is the best soltuion, we are using Active X for IE and FF. http://www.1-click.com Our company works on the same concept to make evrybody able to watch DVD-quality videos inside their browser.

We did a real good case for French Tennis Open, take a look: http://www.fft.fr/action/one-click/videocast.asp

I am not sure Java pplet is the best soltuion, we are using Active X for IE and FF.

http://www.1-click.com

]]> By: David Crone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1462740 David Crone Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:27:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1462740 I think P2P works ok from a delivery perspective as long there are sufficient peers out there with fragments of the media files YOU want to download/view. If the pool of peers with fragments for a media file is sufficiently low then the origin servers still take the bulk of the traffic and then your back in the paying transit cost scenario for moving the files from your origin servers out to the requester. I think P2P works ok from a delivery perspective as long there are sufficient peers out there with fragments of the media files YOU want to download/view. If the pool of peers with fragments for a media file is sufficiently low then the origin servers still take the bulk of the traffic and then your back in the paying transit cost scenario for moving the files from your origin servers out to the requester.

]]> By: Nik Cubrilovic http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461800 Nik Cubrilovic Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:25:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461800 I have looked into various ways of doing this and it seems that a neat way may be to do it in Silverlight, although that framework hasn't got good distribution yet. The one problem with P2P in the browser is that you don't have persistent peers, like you do do with desktop P2P. If you look at even the most popular videos on YouTube, on some there are only 4 or 5 people watching at any one time. To get around this and be really smart, you would have a persistent cache in the browser that would be able to serve any video you have ever seen. Again, there is nothing in it for the user so this has to be as transparent and as easy to use as possible It would also be a mistake for them to try and build their own destination, the smart way would be to license the technology to other video publishers I have looked into various ways of doing this and it seems that a neat way may be to do it in Silverlight, although that framework hasn’t got good distribution yet.

The one problem with P2P in the browser is that you don’t have persistent peers, like you do do with desktop P2P. If you look at even the most popular videos on YouTube, on some there are only 4 or 5 people watching at any one time. To get around this and be really smart, you would have a persistent cache in the browser that would be able to serve any video you have ever seen. Again, there is nothing in it for the user so this has to be as transparent and as easy to use as possible

It would also be a mistake for them to try and build their own destination, the smart way would be to license the technology to other video publishers

]]> By: moviedownloadr.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461472 moviedownloadr.com Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:24:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461472 well my son, this is quite possibly the most astou... well my son, this is quite possibly the most astou…

]]> By: Nick Gonzalez http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461290 Nick Gonzalez Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:12:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461290 It really looks like a proof of concept now. Granted, peer to peer works better for people watching fewer and longer length content, but Youtube is a widely available library of content to test on. It really looks like a proof of concept now. Granted, peer to peer works better for people watching fewer and longer length content, but Youtube is a widely available library of content to test on.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461245 Robert Seidman Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:55:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461245 and Mr. Gonzales too for that matter... and Mr. Gonzales too for that matter…

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461241 Robert Seidman Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:54:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461241 can someone explain to me what the benefit of this would be for anything but copyrighted material (network television shows and movies). I can see that as always being a big hit and with P2P I could just stream my whole ORB library to the world. Fortunately (at least if you own the original content) that's not very practical right now because if more than about 4 people were streaming simultaneously, upstream bandwidth is shot and my CPU will be taxed. Mr. Arrington, are you viewing this as the "Napster of Video streaming"? can someone explain to me what the benefit of this would be for anything but copyrighted material (network television shows and movies). I can see that as always being a big hit and with P2P I could just stream my whole ORB library to the world.

Fortunately (at least if you own the original content) that’s not very practical right now because if more than about 4 people were streaming simultaneously, upstream bandwidth is shot and my CPU will be taxed.

Mr. Arrington, are you viewing this as the “Napster of Video streaming”?

]]> By: Matt http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461151 Matt Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:20:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461151 They need to crack the live multicast p2p market in a browser and they might be onto somthing and then they can Partner with thier YCombinator friends Justin.tv They need to crack the live multicast p2p market in a browser and they might be onto somthing and then they can Partner with thier YCombinator friends Justin.tv

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]]> By: Pong http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461064 Pong Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:51:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1461064 Phew, I have Java disabled for both F and IE ... :( Phew, I have Java disabled for both F and IE … :(

]]> By: Jack Baurer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460995 Jack Baurer Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:27:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460995 Oh I see -- the flash widget thing exists to TEST their P2P in the browser. I think it's pretty cool, I would imagine it must be a tough chicken and the egg problem. Small video sites don't want to use you (don't want to lose viewers), big sites don't want to use you (no track record). All in all, I think using the top 25 to test their P2P is a cool vertical. Cheers guys! Oh I see — the flash widget thing exists to TEST their P2P in the browser. I think it’s pretty cool, I would imagine it must be a tough chicken and the egg problem. Small video sites don’t want to use you (don’t want to lose viewers), big sites don’t want to use you (no track record).

All in all, I think using the top 25 to test their P2P is a cool vertical.

Cheers guys!

]]> By: Rodolfo Sikora http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460980 Rodolfo Sikora Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:23:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460980 Way to go dude!!! Congrats for the app, I know that's jut the beginning. To a end user it loads faster, to the provider it cuts down the bandwidth, that is enough to say they have something really interesting. Way to go dude!!! Congrats for the app, I know that’s jut the beginning.

To a end user it loads faster, to the provider it cuts down the bandwidth, that is enough to say they have something really interesting.

]]> By: Concrete Stain http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460973 Concrete Stain Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:21:28 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460973 yeah I never watch the top 25 on youtube .. mostly music videos / 1-3 times a week for a total of maybe 2 hours - if music videos went form YT - I might visit once a month for a 15 minute period - I think 5% of YT - are jus tlike me yeah I never watch the top 25 on youtube ..

mostly music videos / 1-3 times a week for a total of maybe 2 hours

- if music videos went form YT - I might visit once a month for a 15 minute period

- I think 5% of YT - are jus tlike me

]]> By: Beatbox http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460965 Beatbox Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:18:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460965 Also, the design/UI is really weak. I read more about the P2P technology - it decreases download time, cool. I'm still not impressed at all. Also, the design/UI is really weak. I read more about the P2P technology - it decreases download time, cool. I’m still not impressed at all.

]]> By: Beatbox http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460954 Beatbox Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:15:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/25/slapvid-peer-to-peer-video-in-your-browser/#comment-1460954 It's great that they're saving bandwidth, but what can they do for the end user? To me, this is just another video site. Great, they put together YouTube's top 25 into a quick strip, but YouTube's top 25 are usually not the videos most people want to watch. Am I missing something here? It’s great that they’re saving bandwidth, but what can they do for the end user? To me, this is just another video site. Great, they put together YouTube’s top 25 into a quick strip, but YouTube’s top 25 are usually not the videos most people want to watch. Am I missing something here?

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