June 25, 2007

Friendster Up 40%: More Web 2.0 Cake For Everyone

Duncan Riley

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cake.jpgFriendster experienced a 40% page view growth rate in May, according to the latest comScore traffic figures published at Venturebeat.

Friendster currently sits in 4th place on the list of popular social networking sites, behind MySpace, Facebook and Hi5, but ahead of Tagged.com, Bebo and Piczo.

In an age where everyone presumes that Facebook reigns supreme, the question becomes: how is it possible for Friendster to grow at 40%?

Prevailing theory relating to the growth of social networking sites suggests that social network popularity is a one or the other proposition in a finite marketplace. In others words users will abandon MySpace or Friendster when they begin using Facebook, and that the number of overall users isn’t growing. The growth rates from both MySpace and Friendster at the same time as Facebook is booming would suggest that the theory is wrong.

First, the one or the other proposition. As I noted on MySpace June 20, users have invested time and effort on existing sites and many will not want to give this up, particularly when the feature set of the alternative service (in this case Facebook) is not the same (personalization). Conversely users do want to link to friends where ever they are, creating a demand for multiple social networking memberships. In the same way that many may use Flickr for photos on Yahoo and Google for everything else, social network users may simply maintain different friend sets on each service, and will maintain participation on both. One is not used instead of the other.

Secondly, the overall market is growing. As noted in the Venturebeat article Friendster is experiencing rapid growth in Malaysia and the Philippines. There is a market place outside of the United States; only 4.53% of the world’s population lives in the United States (wikipedia), China will have more broadband users than the United States in the next 12-18 months and India has the largest number of English speaking people of any country worldwide. Smart startups build products that appeal to a global audience, an audience which provides a wealth of growth opportunities at much higher rates than in a mature marketplace such as the United States.

Friendster growing is good for the entire Web 2.0 industry. There can be no downturn without a broad decline in user numbers across many sites. Friendster proves that despite strong, and some would argue superior competition, there’s still room for any Web 2.0 startup to grow, even in a crowded vertical marketplace. There is more Web 2.0 cake for everyone.

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  1. sean percival

    interesting story, more interesting advertisment below it

  2. sean percival

    never mind, should of known that would have been rotated out

    :: whistles ::

  3. Gomzi

    Strange…
    You have written that it is the fourth most popular site. Yet, it occupies the third position in the pic!!!?

  4. beyondwww

    Well Facebook makes more than 100,000 registrations everyday, but it seems Friendster is catching up in the block.

    Dekoh Photos

  5. Duncan Riley

    Gomzi
    the logos on the cake weren’t meant to be representative of market share, but I’ll take that into consideration next time :-)

  6. gman

    Facebooks sucks ass. Trying to connect to the person sitting directly in front of me who I partied with last night and who I want to connect with is nearly impossible. Their walled off college roots are showing and that doesn’t fit the real world. Example: I lived in LA, Tokyo and now SF. I want to be in all 3 communities because I have friends in all of them, not have to choose only one.

    Unless they change this stuff eventually someone will replace them because they are actively discouraging connecting with your friends.

  7. Tom

    Thats crazy growth - how have they done that?

  8. mike bartlett

    Alexa shows the reach of MySpace to be well beyond Facebook’s - why have you put FB on top of the cake?

  9. Hector

    As an American currently living in the Philippines, I can attest to the almost singular awareness of Friendster when it comes to social networking. None of my friends or acquaintances use anything but, and when I mention sites like MySpace or Facebook, I often get an “Oh yeah, I’ve heard of them” response.

    Internet cafes are on every block in this country (even in the poorest neighborhoods) and the only thing I ever see people do at the cafes besides playing MMORPGs is logging into their Friendster page. I never see MySpace, et al.

    The “rest of the world” is a big place, and companies will do well to keep in mind that the rate of “digital catch-up” is accelerating. There are lots of Pesos, Ringgit, Rupiah, Won and Yuan out there that are just waiting to be grabbed. Freindster is doing a good job at picking off some of these opportunities.

  10. John

    I’ll mirror what Hector said. Friendster is very big in Asia. They have deals with the cell phone companies and have billboards on the side of the road. In the Philippines everyone asks you for your friendster name. I found it strange that most have never heard of facebook and have limited knowledge of myspace.

  11. Stephan Uhrenbacher

    I believe we must look at several trends seperately.
    1. The overall market is growing;
    2. there is continuing segmentation in the market; people will use different social networks for different things.

    However, while I strongly belive that the overall time spent on social networks is growing, the amount of time a (reasonable) individual has to spend remains limited. Hence we will see more competition amongst the networks. At least in Europe I see a huge takeup in Facebook usage.

  12. Gerd Leonhard

    nah, it’s all because they offer Sonific SongSpots Music Widgets ;) see http://www.friendster.com/sonific But seriously, we’ve been seeing a good uptake from Friendster users as well… let’s see where it goes

  13. Scott

    I don’t think the growth of the market is as big as reported… I think it is coming from a loss of other sites…

  14. chrisco

    My sense is that the growth is real… still millions and millions of people to come into this market. These are the early dayz :) -chrisco http://www.buzzpal.com

  15. Jon

    What I find more interesting is the flow from one system to another, there are 6 billion people in the world, eventually, they will all generally do something “social online networking” so the potential is still HUGE. We have seen nothing yet my friends.

    Jon

  16. Larry Chiang

    Sometimes when I am talking to a college student, I accidentally say, “add me on Friendster”

    When I mean to say FACEBOOK

    p.s. I am officially digging up Ryze and pitching Adrian

  17. Gordon

    Here is one partial explanation that anyone who has used MediaMetrix can attest to:

    The numbers often go up or down for no particular reason. I’ve seen sites drop 35% in MM while Omniture shows them up 10%. With an N much higher this is a bit less likely than with my sites, but this could easily be part of the reason.

    Also - sometimes widgets can screw up MediaMetrix, who will count them as real visits even though the widget lives on another site.

    or, it could be 40% growth….

  18. Silly-Valley

    Not to be cynical, but I think it’s amusing how everyone always accepts these stats at face value without ever questioning anything..such as methodology or any changes recently made. The headline/chart read “Friendster experienced a 40% page view growth rate in May” - So let’s think about it….”page view”…does not mean they’ve added new users (I’m sure they have, but not 40%). Something as simple as changing the way page loads or links are handled could account for the traffic increase.

  19. Concrete Stain

    40% over a month / for the 4th site …. is a large market growth

    -RB

  20. Ian Bell

    I was just at an event sponsored by Akamai, and they had showed us a presentation in which they claim Friendsters pageviews jumped significantly after switching to the Akamai servers and setup. I cannot recall the specific date when this happened, but do remember that it was supposedly recent. Perhaps these are tied together?

  21. Antje Wilsch

    Larry - Adrian’s living the good life in the Bahamas….

  22. zai

    Date being the plural of anecdote, I think the increase in pageviews is long-time users coming back to dust off pages for the summer d(m)ating season. The contrasting growth can be explained away by the fact the ex-friendsters who are now regulars on the facebook and myspace are maximizing their reach.
    This should be clear if the pageviews are contrasted with the increase in number of registrants.

  23. Shambhu

    40%? Growing from 125m(April) to 350m+ (May) is more than 100% growth, isn’t it?

    @Tom
    I, too, am more curious about what Friendster did.

    @21 -Ian
    Interesting, so was Friendster slow before moving to Akamai. And did they switch in the Feb 07 time frame when it looks like Friendster started growing again.

    @zai
    Thanks for a nice testable guess?

  24. Wil Schroter

    Are you suggesting the barometer of success isn’t based on what a few thousand bloggers in the Bay area use?

    That’s ridiculous.

  25. Matt

    I find this article to be terribly confusing. I thought that Myspace recently surpassed Yahoo and Google as the most visited site on the web.

  26. Mike

    I can agree to the having different friend sets on the different sites. I’m on myspace (120 friends) and on Facebook (30 friends) and they’re a seperate class of friends. Most of the facebook friends are college students and more business oriented and myspace even with the same facebook friends, are people not in school anymore, and less business oriented.

  27. Bill Templeton

    The data for May is pretty obviously wrong. Relatively mature and large services do not get 40% growth suddenly after 12 months of zero growth

  28. jeff

    there is no Web 2.0 “industry”.

    unless of course you mean the industry of taking feature sets or obviouosly repurposed ideas, coming up with a silly name that someone was hoping was cool, adding an “r” to it, creating a drop shadow logo, getting a lot of blogosphere hype about it, getting funding from some “strategic” investors, and then hoping to sell it to google or someone.

    most of what you read about in TC is bound to go nowhere, is inspirationless, can never actually become a business, and has little to do with anything other than the ego of the person who hopes to become a “success” by selling out.

    real entreprenuers have passion for the businesses they create and run. the passion exists for the business, not for the quick “exit”.

    this comment has little to do with friendster, which i use and am happy to see growing, and more to do with the author’s misguided idea that there is something called a Web 2.0 industry. Its this mentality, and the one i described above, that led to all the crappy stuff getting funded, and eventually sold to the public, and eventually crashing and burning that you called the Web 1.0 industry…

    for those of us truly invested in making cool shit, revolutionizing the way people communicate, and utilizing technology to change peoples lives there never was a cliche’d , greed infested Web 1.0, or now cliche’d, greed infested Web 2.0 industry… there is just talented, hard working people trying to make stuff…
    the rest of this is all just hype, and the lust for fame and fortune, and has little to do with creating and running real businesses with real profits, which is the only true measure for success.

  29. Indonesian

    I’m an Indonesian who lives in US. Indonesia is the 4th most populous country in the world, and nobody there knows anything about MySpace or Facebook. If you want to get new friends, finding love, getting new business connection, Friendster is the one and only place to go.

    So there you go. That’s where some of the 40% comes from.

  30. rabble

    Something is sketchy about those numbers. The traffic didn’t start going up over a few months, but was flat, then spiked up %40 higher. Unless we can get a clear idea of what happened, then i think they are just some how cooking the books. Finding a way to make the same users load 40% more pages.

  31. Drew

    I completely disagree with you Jeff. There obviously is a web2.0 industry and it is coming into its own. Sure there’s plenty of useless ideas out there that are just trying to capitalize on a silly name, but there’s also a lot of innovation out there that’s fueling all of these startups.

  32. jeff

    There is no Web2.0 industry.

    People innovate, people create startups, and people have passion about what they do, but its not an industry… Theyve been doing this for years…

    There is a technology industry… with real businesses making real money

    Moving programming to the client side doesnt make a new industry, it just evolves the same one weve been innovating in for years. Making the technology more accessible by simplifying and modularizing programming so that it is more democratic and accessible to more people with less skills isnt an industry…

    Dont get me wrong… all this evolution is very exciting. The innovation is very exciting. The passion to do great things is exciting.

    But its a lot of greed fueling all these startups and very little innovation…

    The idea that starting something to “get funded”, spend someone elses money, and try to sell something to another investor for the sole purpose of getting an “exit” is not exciting. Thats what we are seeing here… a lot of focus on funding and rounds, exits… and very little focus on users adopting a to a product that they are willing to PAY for and the company actually making real profit money moolah, that can rationalize all of the funding that went into it…

    Were in business to make things that deliver on a value proposition… not on a funding mission. It seems like people are loosing sight of that AGAIN, and i know how that turned out the last time.

  33. Mr.O

    In the Philippines, there are photo stores that have Friendster update services. They will take a digital photo of yourself or scan and upload it for you.

  34. pooj

    That is true, each of these social networking sites have a different purpose. I spent a lot of time pimping out my myspace page. Met a bunch load of interesting people from all over the world. But I reserve facebook for college and highschool friends.

  35. Ederic

    Friendster is indeed still growing here in the Philippines. Even my younger cousins back in our province are Friendster members. Ü

  36. Jasraj

    I’m a Malaysian and I can vouch that near to everyone in Malaysia is on Friendster. It’s practically ‘The Sosial Network’ for everyone in the country. To most Malaysians the concept of social networking begins and ends with Friendster. Meanwhile for comparison sake there are only about 7341 Malaysian’s on Facebook! Most are not even familiar with Facebook let alone MySpace! So over here it’s a case of - if you’re not on Friendster, you are not connected to all your acquaintances.

    As for current Friendsters, the hassle to move on to Facebook is just to much. Most don’t mind that Friendster doesn’t offer the multitude of possibilities that come with Facebook. It’s the why bother attitude! I face this every time I mention Facebook to anyone on Friendster.

  37. zurcas

    Everyone uses Myspace in Australia, i have never warmed to it.

    Now we are seeing a dramatic change in the landscape.

    Many people are jumping ship to FaceBook, I think it’s poised to take off here.

  38. Carter Nicholas

    Absent some announcement from Friendster (you’d think they’d be trying to get the word out if something major had indeed occured), three possible explanations:

    1) Comscore screw up
    2) Some change to friendster site, such as page refreshing
    3) Both of the above.

  39. David Mackey

    I use a number of different social networking sites - Facebook and Xanga being the main ones, but in order to keep up with friends who only use MySpace or Friendster, I use these as well.

  40. tyronne

    Nothing or No COMMENT

  41. Bairuz

    I’m from the Philippines and I can attest that a majority of us here are on Friendster. I have a MySpace account, but I rarely use it. Most of the people in my Friend’s List are persons I don’t personally know. I think that’s what separates Friendster. Everyone you know is in there. Argh, and I have Multiply as my website! Nyahaha.

  42. Arjay Hernandez

    friendster is the most popular social networking service sites here in the philippines. 0ver 6.9 million of them are registered in friendster. with most of the users logging on to their Friendster accounts on a daily basis.

    friendster is the best place.
    friendster is number 1 here in the philippines whatever they say.
    keep up.

  43. Bairuz

    Forgot to add, this is the first time I’ve heard of a social networking site called Facebook! :p

  44. Malaysian UNHAS

    Hi all-No doubts friendster is the best in the world !!
    everyone’s is connected through friendster..I never heard of any my friends using myspace or even facebook.
    Friendster is the most suitable name compare to myspace or facebook.
    Sincerly congratulation to friendster…hopefully friendster maintain its pole position and always doing great maintainance.
    —-we all in southeast Asia supporting Friendster forever. — !!
    User friendly,convenient,easier to handle,intersting shortcuts and latest events.

    we love you friendster..keep up the good work!!!

  45. Kuy

    friendster doesn’t have the fast improvement of facebook.

    Myspace layout and banners was not a good thing either

    Multiply have mp3 share! which rock!

    ~justMy2cents

  46. micahel

    go friendster please because the friendster is dostroy

  47. Scorpito

    I am a a Filipino and i now live in the UK. Its funny, nobody here has ever heard of friendster, whilst Myspace and Hi5 are on the top of the list!

    Not to worry friendster peeps, as long as there are Filipinos in this world, Friendster will continue to grow. They are addicted, they love it, and they would never want to give it up for any other social networking site in the world.

  48. vonroca17

    i have facebook, myspace, friendster and multiply and they’re all good!!..XP

    but I think Friendster is much more better when it comes to friend counts..so chyea! r0ck 0N!..\m/

  49. janet

    facebook? tt’s leading? i dont think so. i mean…facebook is not exactly user-friendly. i think myspace is the best :DDDDDDD
    after all, it’s the most user friendly n lets us edit out profile however we want. limits r barely there…

  50. aloneboy5963

    xx

  51. yaya

    halo

  52. toti21

    nice

  53. jason

    hope to get more friends from friendster~

  54. RiEf aLoNe

    thanx….thanx…

    for friendster….

    i can get more better blog…..

  55. freeze

    friendster so wonderfull,it’s so suitable for people who look for friends.May be we need more upload photo not only 100 but also more and more. ok..friendster is amazing place.i like it so much.

  56. Apollo

    pls add me

  57. ann

    bilisssss!!!!

  58. Hamirah

    what’s happening right now?! friendster isn’t working right this very moment… or maybe i should have gained patience:)

  59. aprille

    hey! just add me up @ aprille_0018@yahoo.com
    thanks!! friendster rocks!!

  60. ray

    fuxfj

  61. Hamirah

    ahehehehe.. its done1 thanx for hurrying up, you guys!!!!! muwahhhh..:)

  62. yoga

    hello Friendster nice one

  63. yesa

    tanx a lot

  64. A. Danuarte

    ehm…thnk”s 2 friendster..

  65. Hamirah

    is this a chat box?”)

  66. WEnz

    Woooah….,that’s amazing!!!!
    40%???
    That make friendster was crowd

  67. filbert

    it seems that eventhough there are a lot like website like friendster… friendster still hold on a safe position

    as a member of it, i say its not really a big deal of what social network site you are in… its still where your friends or peers is in. and that matters most

  68. Hamirah

    pssstt!!

  69. bardagol and tsotso

    I joined friendster on november 2003 when my brothers invited me to join and since then i invited my friends all over the world and even my aunties and uncles and long lost friends joined in…one contributor to Friendster popularity is the continuing economic recovery of the Philippines where more people are gaiing more access to internet…which i hope will continue. Secondly, the traffic growth in Friendster might be due to asian workers working and living abroad….where friendster becomes the window in meeting families relatives and friends..

    my friends invite me in my space, hi5 and other websites which i joined in as well but it’s hard to maintain mutiple friend sites as it will eat up too much of the time…same point of view as with those using hi5, my space, etc..

  70. ayog

    hello hi!!! just add me up @ valle_ayog002@yahoo.com thanks friendster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  71. ray

    when can i open my frienster??
    quickkly…

  72. vian

    greattttt

  73. imee

    im happy 2 be one of your members…. thankzzz…

  74. rolando lagman jr

    hi……….gudmorning……………

  75. merphen

    ,,,,I’m easy to use and I have many friends,,,,

  76. sino

    dapat lagi kaying 24hours

  77. imee

    pki add nyu rn aq0h… cutemishia_killer65@yahoo.com

  78. a-ray

    congratulation…
    that’s great story…
    please,don’t dispointed us…

  79. kroeger

    i just love using friendster, so easy, convenient and its not complicated.
    keep it up and more power

  80. aishi

    super dami n tlgang gumagamit ng friendster…nkkadik kc ei….super dami n rin ng frendz qoh….WEE…….add nyo poh aqoh….cutie_ceraye_05@yahoo.com….tnx….keep up d good work friendster…

  81. Yoan

    I’m an Indonesian.

    People in Indonesia are not so familiar with the existence of Myspace or Facebook.
    Friendster is growing rapidly in here. It has already become a sign of friendship in Indonesia. If you meet new people, they will usually ask whether you have a Friendster account or not.

    All my college mates have Friendster, almost all my cousins joined already.
    So, by hearing the ‘40%’ news is not really become a so-surprising-news to me.

    Keep up the good work you guys…

  82. babak

    hi to every body im babak 23 year ago im single

  83. rean

    hi, im rean nice to meet u

  84. wAAaa

    waaaaaaaaaa

  85. wAAaa

    add nio ako..geff_cleany12@yahoo.com

  86. anonymous

    thats so awesum!

  87. stephen

    waa cool

  88. wayne

    friendster?
    Great!!!

  89. maot

    yeahhh dapat 24hours….

  90. DonAldrin

    Wag kayong mabahala mga tol

  91. DESMAN

    Q-reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

  92. Natasza

    duh…the news written is not the same as the image shown… in the image friendster is on the third but saying its on the fourth position….strange!

  93. Natasza

    maot- memang pun friendster dpt 24hours hehe

  94. Natasza

    i love using friendster but im so addicted to myspace….hehe…

  95. s_mie

    Hey..Just wanna say that most youngsters in Singapore uses friendster..there are some who does use myspace & multiply, but i rarely heard of facebook around..

    i do have friendster, myspace & multiply, but the only social network which i’m active in is my friendster, where 90% of my friends are people i know, compared to multiply or myspace, where my social networking is almost zero %..

    most of us would ask, “hey you got friendster?” or “add me in friendster..”, when we met up or get to know new friends..and i rarely hear people say “hey you got myspace/multiply?”

  96. Natasza

    i just can’t believe how in the world facebook can reach the top while friendster n myspace are so much fun! facebook is lame i tell ya. it doesn’t work in real world. it only connect u in certain places or countries yikes!

  97. Natasza

    yea..ive friends from singapore, philippines, indonesia, malaysia, hong kong and korea and all of us connected in friendster but not in facebook coz none of them eva heard of it haha..so i quit facebook cos i dun want to be a loner lol..

    hai s-mile!

  98. Natasza

    kepada sesiapa yg tengah baca komen nie…join lah perbincangan ya :D

  99. ikhsan

    wow…….fs cool…i have many friend from this site..and i,m happy to be ur member…

  100. rodel

    friendster is the best among the best because it is enjoying and relax..

  101. huina

    i’m so proud to be ur member…

  102. ony

    oyeeee