June 17, 2007

The Very Organized Hit Job On LifeLock

Michael Arrington

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Last month I received an anonymous email from a tipster warning me that there was “a scandal about to pop” about an Arizona credit protection startup called LifeLock. The email made a number of serious allegations around CEO Todd Davis, co-founder Robert Maynard and investor Howard Lindzon - basically accusing them all of fraud, perjury or other crimes. The email also suggested that investors Bessemer and Kleiner Perkins didn’t bother to check out the company’s founders before putting money in: “Did anyone there bother to even do a Google search on the founder’s name?”

The story was juicy. Maynard in particular has a history of questionable actions. In 1997 the FTC ordered him not to engage in any business related to credit improvement services after accusing him of fraud:

The Complaint seeks permanent injunctive relief against defendant Maynard for alleged unfair or deceptive acts or practices by the defendants in connection with the sale of credit improvement services advertised in an infomercial and the collection of fees by depositing drafts drawn on consumers’ checking accounts…Defendant Maynard, without admitting the allegations set forth in the Complaint, agrees to entry of this final Order under Section 13(b) of the FTC Act.

Given that his new business was consumer credit protection, the irony was ripe.

I haven’t shied away from writing stories about founders with checkered pasts - see my posts on Rivals and Statsaholic, for example.

But something wasn’t quite right with the email. It wasn’t just a tip. It had eight PDF attachments with carefuly organized background materials. A fifteen page “dossier” went into excruciating detail on the personal and business histories of Davis and Maynard. Facts were mixed with lots of speculation. This wasn’t a tip, it was a hit job.

I met with David Cowan, the Bessemer partner who invested in LifeLock, to hear his side of the story. He told me they were fully aware of Maynard’s past when they made their investment in 2006. By the time they invested Maynard was no longer an officer of the company, Cowan said.

I contemplated writing an article on this, and started talking with Maynard via email. Before I wrote, however, a bunch of articles came out - see the Phoenix New Times and Wired, for example. Valleywag practically wet their pants over the story. I didn’t really have anything to add to what was already published.

In the aftermath of those articles Maynard resigned from the company. Cowan wrote about all of this yesterday on his personal blog, explaining that they invested with their eyes wide open and expressing his sadness over Maynard’s resignation.

There is More To This Story

It’s clear to me that the authors of those articles were sent the same email I was, or else the timing was a massive coincidence.

Who spent the time to put together all of this information on the company, and send it to all these reporters and bloggers? And what is their motivation?

The company is killing it, according to Cowan, adding 3,000 new customers per day. Their core product allows customers to put a “fraud block” on their credit. A new credit account cannot be opened by a person with a fraud block notation on their credit reports unless the company opening the account talks to them in person or over the phone and gets their permission. In addition to putting a fraud block on accounts, LifeLock also regularly renews customers’ “opt-out” status with bureaus to prohibit them from selling this information. This makes it much more difficult for someone with personal information about you, including your social security number, to steal your identity and get credit cards with your name sent to them. I’m a big fan of these kinds of services (see my coverage of TrustedID, another company fighting identity theft).

There are a lot of people who don’t like what LifeLock is doing. And those people all work for or own the big three credit reporting agencies (Experian, Equifax, and TransUnion) and the lawyers, lobbyists and other paid shills who represent them. The primary businesses of the credit bureaus is selling our personal information to credit card, mortgage and other credit-issuing companies. They are one of the primary facilitators of identity theft and credit fraud.

Bureaus don’t like services like LifeLock because they pull people out of their information-selling machine. LifeLock is a direct threat to their revenue.

Is this enough of an incentive for the bureaus to organize a hit job on a company?

I don’t particularly like what Maynard did in the past. It’s good that he’s no longer with the company, which can now focus on its core business of helping people try to fight what the credit bureaus are doing with their personal information. I also don’t think it is a good idea for venture funds to invest in companies founded by people who have been convicted of committing fraud, or most other crimes. Maynard should never have started another company that had anything to do with consumer credit, and the VCs should have only invested if he was completely out of the company.

I’ll probably never know who sent me that well organized, methodical email, or what motivation they had for getting the stories written. But I do know this: after researching this story, I’m more afraid of the credit bureaus and their perverse business models than ever before.

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  1. Jon

    Based on your description of their business model, it’s certainly easy to connect the dots and conclude that credit agencies have every reason to try and torpedo LifeLock. Based on my experience in the banking industry, that’s exactly the type of behavior that I would expect from large corporations in the sector.

    In this case, you have to wonder if Maynard didn’t have a number of other parties who wanted to see him go down in flames. If he committed fraud in the past, there could be any number of individual victims who had every incentive to see him take a hard fall. Then again, a 15 page dossier sounds more like the output of a high paid corporate consultant than a disgruntled, individual consumer.

  2. Mark Maunder

    Great reporting Michael! I heard their ad on Sirius a while back where Todd Davis, their CEO gives out his ssn as a demo of his faith in their system. It’s a very convincing ad and I was taken in. My wife and I have been chatting about signing up because she had her id stolen a year ago. [The good old DMV send new drivers licenses via regular mail dontcha know] We haven’t done it yet and now probably won’t. It sucks that you can’t trust the agencies and the protection services now seem just as dodgy.

    Mark M.

  3. Michael Arrington

    Jon - You’re right about him possibly having others in his past that would have an incentive to do this. A lot of tips we get are clearly motivated by someone wanting to do a company harm, but they have never been this detailed or organized. As you said, this points to a corporate-led effort.

    Mark - l found no evidence suggesting Lifelock as a company has done anything wrong at any point. Debix is a competitor that you may feel more comfortable with.

  4. SEARCH ENGINES WEB *

    I don’t particularly like what Maynard did in the past. It’s good that he’s no longer with the company, which can now focus on its core business of helping people try to fight what the credit bureaus are doing with their personal information. I also don’t think it is a good idea for venture funds to invest in companies founded by people who have been convicted of committing fraud, or most other crimes. Maynard should never have started another company that had anything to do with consumer credit, and the VCs should have only invested if he was completely out of the company.

    DISAGREE, …whatever mistakes or misdeeds an intelligent person has made in the past, should not prevent them from making a contribution to society in the field they are most expert in.

    The past is the past - whatever is done, is done!!

    Why should Good Ideas suffer because of the past history of the person who thought of them?

    One good idea that is successfully implemented, can change the lives of millions of people.

    Not only does society need people to THINK UP good ideas, it also needs people to persistently strategize to get those ideas off the ground - then be passionate and obsessive enough to get them implemented.

    It is not uncommon for those types of super ambitious people to have skeletons in their closets - but they should be allowed to recreate themselves to maximize their potential to help society at whatever they are good at doing.

    Hopefully, they will learn from their misdeeds - and checks and balances will be put in place to prevent them from their own self destruction - but these types of people are rare in a world dominated by passive mediocrity.

    Surely others thought of this same business model before Maynard did, but he was the only one to get it done. It took personality as well as serendipity and deception - but none the less, his creation may live and benefit others long after he has passed away.

    If he had not deceived, what are the odds of him having gotten success in this business endeavor? For better or worse, social Darwinism is not always ethical.

  5. Ferodynamics

    Yes. Smearing reputations for cash. What a pathetic way to make money.

  6. Zaki

    Way to differentiate yourself from other blogs/news sources. Its stuff like this that will keep us coming back to TC long after valleywag has cried wolf for the last time. excellent.

  7. visible.mobi

    This is bad…

  8. Tom

    Not only does opt-out take people out of their inventory, it competes with the bureaus’ “fraud detection” products. For ten dollars a month, you can find out (after the fact) if someone has stolen your identity.

    It’s obvious who’s behind the email - the same scumbags who claim to be the exclusive and beneficent stewards of our identities!

  9. Coralpoetry

    Well … I’ve learnt a new lesson from this.

    “To understand LifeLock, people need understand the difference between identity fraud and identity theft.

    Identity fraud is when someone gets hold of your credit card and uses it. Identity theft is when someone assumes your identity to open a new line of credit.” - Todd Davis

    Regards,
    Coral

  10. philip jacob

    Mike, can you make the headers of the original tipoff emails public? Depending on how careful the people were, it might provide some interesting leads to follow.

  11. Justin

    I’ll make sure the next hit-job to you contains much less information
    – signed, The Man.

  12. Bill Riski

    Mike - Very interesting article. Based on your recommendation, I checked into Debix and decided to sign up for their service.

    Thanks - Bill R.

  13. heri

    thanks for the reporting. the more info we have, the better it is for consumers

  14. Richard Jones

    Here is the problem
    I understand that motivation behind the info is important but this story exposes the real problem with sites like this one and gigaom. The line is really blurred between journalism and promotion.

    What happened to the Industry Standard? This story should have been on Tech Crunch first not on a New Time site. lets not forget the guy lied about his motivation for starting the site. And while getting of the ground was using his father’s credit and identity to live off of.

  15. MajorNetworkNews

    LifeLock is a big advertiser on the Rush Limbaugh show. That’s the only place I have ever heard mention them (until now on TC).

  16. Ralph

    This is another sign that we are headed for a Federal ID card/system with mandatory identity theft/fraud insurance. Who do you think is going to make money hand-over-fist selling the required insurance?

  17. Bear

    I think…. There are some crazy people hate U.S and jews.

    Even some backed VC companies have power to shipped illegal weapons, bombs, biological weapons, counterfeit items or toothpaste into the U.S. All they need is VC money, SS#, CC# ,etc and buy overseas weapons and ship into private cargo. Founders won’t tell the truth. :(

    Lifelock could turn into new Enron story… Hidden, weapons, fraud, and scandals, etc..

  18. Mike Sabat

    Michael,

    I read regularly and this may be the best story that I’ve read here. Thanks, and I’m definitely going to check out LifeLock.

  19. An Ex Con Artist is Now a Top Detective

    It happens all the time. A person’s past should not prevent him or her from making contributions to the society.

  20. Bob

    Mike, I’m sorry, I don’t see how you can be a “big fan” of these kinds of services. They may be a bit better than the credit bureaus in that they didn’t cause the problem of identity theft in the first place, but they profit from keeping consumers powerless and fearful. The only reason they exist is because how insanely predatory, reckless and anti-consumer the credit industry is. But ask yourself this: if Congress is going to consider legislation to regulate and reform the practices of the credit industry, which side will the LifeLocks and Debixes of the world be on? Where will their lobbying dollars be when there’s a proposal to allow us to control our own credit files? Their business model is based on maintaining the status quo and they’re yet another roadblock to real, substantive change in the credit industry. Sure, the credit bureaus hate them, but that’s like the lions hating the hyenas and we’re the zebra carcass that’s being fought over. In this fight, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

  21. I have hard question.

    I have very smart question. I’m good with my eyes. Uhm… I was reading Board of Directors website. Okay, they have college degree or master degree and worked former bank companies.

    Is Lifelock — C Corporation, or S corporation or LLC or Limited Partnership? It does say in Lifelock website?

    I read term of Use…

    1. “we’re going to make sure that you get every dollar back, lost wages, costs, actual losses, every dollar up to $1,000,000. Period. ”

    Hmmm, “we’re going”…. Are you going to do it now or later?

    2. “In order to implement your locks, we must share your personal information to third parties including but not limited to: TransUnion, Experian and Equifax. Once this information is in their hands, we can’t be responsible for what they do with it.”

    …Wait… We can’t be responsible… You said you are going and now… can’t be responsible. WTF. What business is this? Is this AOL brand?

    2. “Once we are comfortable that you are innocent due to Identity Theft that occurred while you are our client, we will advance all fees and costs as discussed above. Note that we do not necessarily require that you are found innocent by the authorities before performing on our guarantee.”

    “We will advance all fees and costs as discussed above? ” Lifelock — What does that mean? No… No.. You have pay me for going your website. Pay me now for writing question.

    3.”If we are confident that you did not commit the crime, we will advance any legal fees, bail or other costs required to get you out of jail and back to your life. ”

    WTF. Are you trying to blackmail government and state law? Are you trying to make Paris hilton media hype?

  22. Dave G

    I agree with #18.

  23. Daski

    It’s legitimate website. Stay away from Lifelock… It’s scam….

    I don’t give damn if Lifelock files chapter 11.

  24. Eric Mill

    #10 has a good idea — will you post the headers of the email? You would be alienating a “source”, but you may well have already.

  25. Michael Arrington

    No, I won’t post the email headers. Talking about what a source said is very different from identifying the source.

  26. Yeap...

    I put faith in myself. God know his name…. Arrington. I counted it’s actually 4 power ball blogs… Powerset partying, Rivals, Statsaholic, and Lifelock.

    If mike ever caught more VC crooks or CEO who committed fraud. Wooooahhh… Mike is undefeated!!!

  27. Trading Online Free

    wow, that is really scary, sounds like a pretty deliberate hatchet job coming from some threatened power. this kind of stuff really riles, excellent observation on who some the biggest facilitators of identity theft/credit fraud. are, weren’t they also trying to attach this whole thing to some presidential candidate as well? sometimes it seems like the little guy is roadkill before he even starts, great post!

  28. I remember War with Iraq

    I remember ABC news show up on TV… Thousand military SS# , information, and laptop was stolen. They couldn’t get it back. :(

  29. andrew

    things that make you go hmmm.

  30. Geoffrey Arone

    I have to chime in, as both an EIR at Bessemer and founder of the “troubled flock”. I’d have done this on Valleywag, but didn’t feel like registering and the meme has since moved to TC. First, I do encourage you to read David Cowan’s blog (whohastimeforthis.blogspot.com), as he really does tell all about this investment, which was made shortly before I joined Bessemer. Of the many reasons I joined Bessemer after deciding to move on from Flock, the primary was the opportunity to work with Cowan. David, despite his off the charts IQ, is easy to understand; he always tries to do what he believes is right and fair and isn’t afraid to make difficult or unpopular decisions to support those beliefs. I know this first hand on several counts, including Bessemer’s decision to invest in LifeLock, as well as Bessemer’s handling of Flock’s delays in product shipment. On the former, I talked to David before the investment was made and sat in on partner meetings after the fact and have been repeatedly impressed by both David, and the firm’s, support of the investment, the concept, and the team (based on FAR more foreknowledge than any of these sensational posts will acknowledge). Now, on the latter, all I can say is that when I decided to move on from Flock (driven mostly by my realization that the product would need more time to come to fruition and that there was little for me to do on the BD and marketing front), Cowan (and BVP) labored to come up with an arrangement that made sense for Flock, the investors, and me. It would have been easier for them to isolate me as a recalcitrant co-founder and/or distance themselves from this investment altogether. However, they hunkered down on the investment, helped to rebuild the management team, and the results will speak for themselves. I got a recent demo of the upcoming release and got a glimpse of the first version of Flock that is finally (yes we are tired of the wait as well!) starting to reach the potential of the original vision that Anthony, Bart, and I had when we started the company in Feb ‘05. My point in all of this is that investors have many different styles, but the styles are only as good as the integrity of the people behind them. I have seen Bessemer, and Cowan, in both success and adversity and remain impressed.

  31. Ted Naleid

    The laws are currently a bit of a patchwork, but many states allow consumers to put a freeze on their own credit for a small fee. If you’re lucky enough to live in one of these states, it’s much less than these types of services charge and without having to give out your personal information and power of attorney.

    http://www.consumersunion.org/.....indiv.html

    If you don’t live in a state that is progressive enough to allow you to freeze your credit, I suggest contacting your representatives to ask them why. You can submit a message to your reps from here: http://www.financialprivacynow.org/

    These types of services are simply a stopgap to what the real solution to this problem should be.

  32. Alex

    Yes, somebody has to lose their job at both Bessemer and Kleiner Perkins. Unfortunately, it will probably be an analyst at the firm and not a Partner.

    FUNDAMENTAL DUE DILIGENCE!

  33. will

    What lifelock is selling is (mostly) a commodity product. Bureaus are the ones that are actually “locking” the credit records (forced to by certain state regulation/consumer backlash etc.) I believe someone can actually call up the credit agencies and place the lock yourself. WIHOUT paying LifeLock.

    If you need the insurance portion, you still need to go to lifelock for it.

    To SEARCH ENGINES WEB:

    Should Mitnick be allowed to re-enter the industry? Should Blodget be able to publish stock research again? Should sexual predators not have to register to the community they settle in? I know your point, and I generally agree, but in a some cases, people do not deserve “a second chance.” I do not know the detail of his past crime, but its not our place to judge if we do not know the details. At this point, we have to trust that the justice system kept him out of the industry for THE PUBLIC GOOD.

  34. MrGPT

    Dang, I hate when stuff like this happens.

    Regards,
    Drew
    http://www.mrgpt.com

  35. Farhan Memon

    Michael –

    Perhaps you can elaborate on your reasoning why you won’t use the header information your possess to unmask the person(s) who sent you the dossier and unmaking the hitmen.

    It’s one thing for you to protect your sources if you have promised them anonymity, however it doesn’t seem that you owe any ethical obligation to someone who sends you information blindly with the intention of smearing someone’s reputation.

    If I were you, I would pursue this story to its conclusion and try to find out who is behind this.

  36. LifeLock is Scariest company I ever known

    SCARY!!!!

    This is why I want to avoid talking LifeLock workers. I would heck run away from them. If ever meet them hotel, airport, etc… I would change seats….

    The company sound much like clonaid

  37. Wes

    This sounds very interesting but I also think that there is no need to identify the anonymous email sender.

  38. Robert Seidman

    Thanks for the thrill ride. Farhan, relax dude. Wth do you care. Maybe he doesn’t want to invade someone’s privacy on a story about privacy protection. Maybe Michael actually respects people’s privacy. I like that about him.

    As for the corporate smear tactics, if it looks like a .PDF file and reads like a…Let’s face it, the way these BS credit bureaus are set up, they don’t have any problem with these kind of products being in the market at all. The problem they have is anyone selling them other than them. They don’t like that one bit.

  39. patricia

    I think it’s interesting that you were the only one that questioned the email.

  40. Gregor J. Rothfuss

    The illiterate comments #17, #21, #23 and #35 crack me up. Was the tipster email as badly written?

  41. Robin

    LifeLock and Debix both sound like a great idea, but they only serve customers in the States. I wonder if there is a similar service available to UK residents?

  42. Richard Pendergast

    This is probably the single most interesting and well covered piece of reporting I have seen by a TechCrunch author. Kudos. And I mean that - this piece goes well beyond the simple review or writeup and crosses over into the realms of investigative reporting or journalism.
    I knew there was a reason I read TechCrunch, and after a few quick downers it’s good to have that reason reaffirmed. Anyone can re-write what is handed to them on a platter, but it takes guts to risk missing out on that first-to-press opportunity in order to get a story right, and demonstrates a respect for both your material and your audience. Hats off…

  43. Vicki

    Michael–excellent story. I am especially impressed that you will not post the email header. I am especially unimpressed that your source wasn’t bright enough to cover his tracks. A 15 page document? The good news is these the credit bureau behind this is not very good at being under handed. The bad news seems to be that many reporters either didn’t notice or didn’t care. I wonder how many other editors/writers received the email and did not publish anything?

  44. Scott

    Here’s an article on how to lock or freeze your credit report yourself by dealing with the credit agencies directly:

    http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20030613c1.asp

  45. Concrete Stain

    Does look like a hit job /

    - seems to have worked atleast got the main target ‘ killed out of his job ‘

  46. constructicle boy

    i will avoid this as well.scary

  47. Pat Mitchell

    It’s interesting to speculate as to who helped pull these facts about the fraudulent past of Maynard and LifeLock together, but in the end, it doesn’t matter. It’s likely that a lot of people realized what liars and crooks these guys are and spilled the beans. Whether you think Maynard’s bankruptcies are relevant is your own opinion, but when a man defrauds lenders and legitimate businesses, uses his father’s identity and is then held up as a victim by his company and investors who claim to know the truth, that casts a shadow on the entire company not just the founder, who incidently, still works for them as a consultant. LifeLock has no credibility. They are just a marketing scam. When I investigated options to protect myself, my first consideration was reputatation. When I learned that RelyData (http://www.relydata.com/) was the only company recommended by the credit bureaus, that told me a lot, and I’d found a solution provider.

  48. Larry Chiang

    Bureas have a biz model of selling negative info. if a bank buys a credit report and doesn’t lend $X,000, then the $1.10 for the credit report was well worth it

    The 3 bureaus TU, E and E are NEVER going to ever change

    p.s. there is a VIP bureau list (just like Harlot). These people will always have perfect scores. If your voice can be heard, i.e. are a Congressman, CEO of a company OR have a blog, you’re on it.

  49. Martin Bosworth

    I’m happy to get more coverage of this story and to find out that things were not as cut and dried as they seemed. It doesn’t surprise me at all to find out that one or more of the credit bureaus may have been behind getting the Lifelock scandal perpetuated.

    Given the increasing consumer dissatisfaction with their continually sloppy and error-filled business practices, they should be spending more time preparing for the inevitable changes to their models that will come from an equally dissatisfied Congress, and less using personal drama to smear a company’s practices.

    P.S. Mike, since you’re clearly interested in new identity theft protection companies, I’d be remiss if I didn’t pimp my company’s chief offering: IdentitySweep. (http://www.identitysweep.com) Take a look and tell us what you think.

    Martin Bosworth
    MyPublicInfo.com
    ConsumerAffairs.Com

  50. ray stern

    Hey, Michael Arrington,

    Your speculation on the “hit job” on LifeLock isn’t worth a damn. I didn’t get an e-mail from you, and I’m not hard to find: ray.stern@newtimes.com. If you’d bothered to research your article, you’d have learned that the “dossier” on LifeLock” you received is probably the same one I got AFTER my article was published. Plus, the dossier only had the “background” part of the story. This wasn’t a story about Maynard’s distant past. You conveniently forgot to reference Maynard’s Vegas whopper.
    The timing of the dossier and the New Times article was indeed a coincidence — one had nothing to do with the other.
    Oh, and by the way, what other interesting stories are you sitting on right now? If you’re not going to do anything with them, shoot me an e-mail.

    Sincerely,

    Ray Stern

  51. Scott Yates

    I blogged about this post, and I just heard from the writer of the original New Times piece. He made some lame distinction between bloggers and reporters, but didn’t make his case that his story wasn’t the work of the credit agencies, so I challenged him to do so.

    We’ll see.

  52. ray stern

    Your challenge is being met. There is no connection between the credit agencies and my story. The dossier Arrington and I received had nothing to do with the New Times article. My article on LifeLock originated with a tip from a local Valley resident who told me that interesting info on Maynard could be found with a simple Google search. I began looking into the company and read what Maynard and Davis were saying about how the company was founded. It sounded fishy to me and I checked it out by calling the Clark County, Nevada, district attorney’s office, which dispelled the idea that identity theft occurred. The notion that some shilll for a credit agency force fed me the info in my article is pure BS. I’m sorry if I offended you with my “lame distinction between bloggers and reporters.” But after spending weeks poring over records and doing interviews for my LifeLock article, I found it disheartening that a couple of bloggers would denigrate my work without so much as sending me an e-mail to get my side.

  53. Tom O'Leary

    Broadcasting a smear campaign is certainly not done without a motive. I’ve watched enough episodes of Columbo to know that. So, who is motivated to do so? Wouldn’t be too difficult to round up the suspects. Anyone fancy a game of Clue?

    It was the butler in the bathroom with a hammer.

    Like a cat, I would be curious to know who sent the broadcast email. It would be easy to find out, of course. I wonder if they are worried that someone will?

    They say to follow the money trail….

    hmmmm.

  54. Scott Yates

    Ray,

    Bravo! Way to fight back! And good job doing the research! No need to bite the hand that’s feeding the web buzz about your story, but you only get points off there for style, not substance.

    You still haven’t convinced me, though. Just because your original source was local to you doesn’t mean that source isn’t at some level doing work for those whose motive is alligned with the Big 3 agencies. I’m not asking you to reveal sources, but you might at least reveal his/her motivation; it’s a key piece of any story.

  55. Michael Arrington

    Ray - Good job on the story. You have a bright future ahead of you.

  56. Joe Johnson

    Ray -

    What “isn’t worth a damn” is that you call yourself a journalist. Journalists are supposed to be unbiased and objective. With your own words, you prove yourself to be nothing but a hack without the slightest grasp of simple logic.

    In your allegations against Maynard, you say that he stole his father’s identity. Yet you also say that he listed the debt on his bankruptcy filing. The exact same amount as American Express said was owed. Now, by admitting on a public record that he owed the money when he had stolen an identity to get the account, he would have been admitting to a felony in a public record. That would seem to be a pretty stupid mistake. More likely, you have no grasp of obvious logic.

    You also point out as part of you proof that he lied about his story in Nevada because he didn’t file a police report. Yet, you make no mention of his father filing a police report, yet you assert that he was a victim of his son’s identity theft. Once again, a flaw in logic.

    In addition, if he had actually stolen his father’s identity, he would not have even technically owed the money, so why list it? Once again, you demonstrate your handicapped grasp of basic logic. What was conveniently missing after your “weeks” of investigation was any comment by American Express or even any “no comment,” yet of all your allegations, that one was the most personally vicious and damaging.

    And you didn’t even have the courage to come out and say he did it. You hid behind the words “if this is true…”

    And what kind of journalist calls a corporate officer “bald and beefy?”

    As far as the Las Vegas allegations, has he been convicted of anything? I’ve never heard a prosecutor say “maybe I’m wrong.” In the LA Times, Maynard says that he paid off the balance because his ex-wife tried to use the fact that he had been jailed as an opportunity to take sole custody of his children and that he couldn’t go to court if he were in jail. Anyone who has been through a nasty custody battle can relate to that. Did you check it?

    He says in the same article that he can prove that at least one license had been fraudulently issued in his name. Did you check whether anything like that had ever happened?

    Did you note in your article that he wasn’t fined, or even asked to pay costs in his settlement with the FTC? Did you research what the other defendants received? How about the guy who paid $27 million. Does it sound like they found Maynard to be a bad actor? Did you check any of those facts?

    Did you note that some of the most sophisticated investors in the world invested in his company? Did you suggest that perhaps they were smart enough to due thorough due diligence?

    According to the BBB, LifeLock has only two complaints in more than two years (I checked. Did you?). Did you note that the company apparently has a very clean record with consumers?

    Other real journalists have found these questions germaine enough to ask and write about them.

    So, I went out and looked at your publication’s website. This is my opinion of it:

    New Times is apparently a free rag that advertises massage parlors with happy endings and escort services. The other big story you ran that issue was:

    USEFUL IDIOTS
    The pissed-off puffin paddles fellow journalists, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, and an FBI monkey-spanker at U of A

    Two weeks before, the feature story was:

    Belle of the Ball Gag
    Straight out of Tent City, Mistress Seven wants to hurt — and be hurt

    About a dominatrix that had been serving time in jail for DUI and the “scandal” that the Sherrif was letting her out on work release.

    Let’s Compare:

    Michael Arrington is a highly respected Internet Journalist with more than 600,000 regular readers and 450,000 people who have requested his email alerts. You are clearly a hack with an axe to grind.

    And you wanted HIM to contact YOU as a source. What a joke.

  57. ray stern

    The credit agencies weren’t behind the article — and even if the CEO of Equifax had called me personally and told me to Google Maynard (he didn’t), the facts about Maynard still speak for themselves.
    Maynard’s own father said the identity theft in the American Express case occurred. In the Vegas case, authorities say NO identity theft occurred, yet Maynard and Davis have told this story recently in public. The company is founded on trust, but it has kept Maynard’s credit repair past a secret from customers and potential customers for two years.
    I know this sounds trite, but people have a right to know about these things, especially if they are considering signing up with LifeLock.

  58. Zachary Todd

    First off, I have been paying Lifelock for the last 8 months. I plan to cancel my service right away. Last month, I took out a $16K car loan, over the phone, with no questions asked. No alerts, No phone call, nothing. The service implies (and depending on who you speak with there - straight-up promises) a diminished amount of pre-approved credit card offers and junk mail. I get more of these than ever!
    Finally, I know a friend of Maynard’s, and I know for a fact that although he “stepped down” he is quite vocal to his friends about the fact that he is still getting paid, still in charge of the same things he was in charge of before, but is just now not allowed to go into the office. Wow. I wish I could get a gig like that! Sit home in my underwear, collect a paycheck and laugh at the number of new people signing up every day. This man thinks he is invincible. I encourage you NOT to sign up with Lifelock. Don’t let their good website fool you, too. I think it would be wise for us all to push for the (already being talked about) legislation that keeps your credit information frozen until YOU choose to unlock it. Doesn’t that make the most sense?

  59. Joe Johnson

    really, Ray. Where exactly did Maynard’s father say that? Let’s see the quote? All I see is innuendo.

  60. David Mackey

    Wow. Quite the tale. I don’t mind the credit reports - I just think consumers should have continuous access to them (for free) and the ability to contradict them online.

  61. Scott Yates

    Mike, re: “You have a bright future ahead of you.” Do you know this writer? Are you sure he’s not 55. I know New Times has been sued for age discrimination, but really, wasn’t that a bit patronizing?

    Ray, You still haven’t told us the motivations of your original source. Do you know what they are?

    And to everyone, you should do what I didn’t, which was to read the Cowan link above. In it, Cowan talks about Maynard’s Bipolar disease. Ray’s story in New Times has to be 5,000 words at least, and he didn’t mention that the subject of the story is bipolar! Would you do a 5,000-word story about Lou Gherig without metioning the disease he had? How about Carrie Fisher, who is also bipolar?

    Ray, did you know about it?

    Again, I’m not saying Maynard is a saint, but his condition certainly is part of the story.

  62. N.N.

    LIFEJOKE - Walk right in!

    ISO Security? Guess ISO did not have a chance to review this gem (sent in every account confirmation email): https://secure.lifelock.com/login.aspx (*)

    Yes, that’s right, you *can* log in if you know a your friend’s email address and zip code (if they’re a LifeLock customer). Good thing, ‘cuz I was never any good with passwords.

    Happened to forget their zip code or they use multiple email addresses? Don’t worry, you can try and try again, there is no limit to free failed logins.

    A little lazy but a nerd? Feel free to write yourself a little robot script, “we don’t need no steenkin’ CAPTCHAs”

    Oh, you’re already in you say? Great! Hmmm there’s an empty form here, very little info, but… now at least you know the full names of your friend, the spouse and any little critters. Who knew that her middle initial J. name stood for “Jennifrod”?

    Luckily you cannot see a lot, except for the full names of the clients linked to the account, but here is where it gets really really bad… because you can actually append/change data in their account (*)!

    Do you like the color green better? Go ahead, change it. Think they should call you instead when he asks for new credit, update the phone number! Wish they were in school with you growing up, sure thing, just change that field too. Don’t worry, there is no wait, everything is updated in real time!

    Watch out… you have changed three out of four ’security fields’. The last four digits of their social security number is all that separates them from all kinds of mayhem.

    LifeLock, ISO new company officer as well as security…

    N.N.

    (*) The aforementioned issues are real and verified by more than one person to work exactly this way just last week, I do *not* suggest or recommend that *anyone* compromises another person’s lifelock account. Instead, sign up for one yourself and enjoy the spectacle.

  63. Mary

    After reading the posts, it sounds like the “scandal about to pop” referred to the NewTimes article. Perhaps the writer of the email & dossier is the writer of the article itself, in an attempt to draw media attention to his “investigative work”. OR, he was given an exclusive to the story. Either way, there is an agenda with the article - a source with an agenda, or an over zealous reporter, who didn’t bother to get all of the facts or prove what he presented to be fact. If he didn’t author the dossier, I would bet that he knows who did!

    PLEASE tell me that the “news”, including an “investigative piece” isn’t being reported as fact, based on the assumption that what people say, (INCLUDING OUR PARENTS), is truthful and without personal agenda’s or motivation! I can only hope that a man’s reputation hasn’t been destroyed based on this belief.

  64. ray stern

    Hello again.
    To repeat, my e-mail is ray.stern@newtimes.com.
    I would like to encourage Zachary Todd, “Joe Johnson,” any and all LifeLock customers, and anyone else who can shed more light on LifeLock to get in touch with me. Whether you’ve had a good or bad experience with LifeLock, let me know.
    And by all means, if you have anything else interesting to share with me on any subject, shoot me an e-mail.
    Thanks.

    ray

  65. Joe Johnson

    Ray -

    How about answering some of the direct questions that were posed in this forum? You’ve had plenty to say about this until someone asks you a question. Why is that? Are you taking the “no comment” route? Seems pretty hypocritical. Could it be because you have no legitimate answers? That’s sure what it looks like.

  66. ray stern

    Joe,

    I don’t take the no comment route like Maynard Jr., who refused to be interviewed by me.

    The fact is, if Maynard Jr. had explained his side of things, I would have gladly included his responses in my article. I gave Maynard Jr. MULTIPLE opportunities to speak with me before the story ran.

    If you’re still curious “what happened in Vegas,” I refer all of your questions on that matter to the Clark County district attorney’s office, namely Bernie Zadrowski. He’ll explain to you what really happened in Maynard’s case, if you don’t want to believe what I wrote about it.

    Many of your questions seem rhetorical in nature, ie “what kind of journalist calls a corporate officer “bald and beefy?’” I honestly didn’t think you really wanted answers for questions like that. Also, on the American Express deal, you are speculating a lot with statements like, “by admitting on a public record that he owed the money when he had stolen an identity to get the account, he would have been admitting to a felony in a public record. That would seem to be a pretty stupid mistake.” It seems like you’re saying here it would be impossible for Maynard Jr. to make a stupid mistake!

    I hope that clears stuff up for you. If you have any more specific questions, feel free to ask them. But you could consider sending me an e-mail, since Arrington’s readers are probably bored stiff with this conversation by now.

    ray

  67. ray stern

    One last note on this issue of a “hit job” that Michael Arrington wrote about.
    This morning I received a call from the person who sent me the “dossier” on LifeLock after my 5-31-07 article was published. He confirmed he sent the same dossier to Arrington. (The dossier included info about Maynard’s credit repair history, bankruptcies, and the bankruptcy of Todd Davis, LifeLock’s CEO). He is adamant that the credit agencies were not his motivation to compile the information, and that he’s not associated with the credit agencies in any way. (I don’t know this person and could not confirm what he said, but I have no reason to suspect he’s with the credit agencies, either).

  68. Joe

    I find it very odd that you complain that the email you received mixed speculation with facts, and then you go on to speculate that it must be a hit job organized by the credit bureaus without any evidence of even a circumstantial nature to back that up.

  69. John

    Ok, so how stupid can they get? Lifelock will now allow their call center reps to work in the comfort of their own home.

    http://www.marketwire.com/2.0/release.do?id=744696

    Think about this…

    A customer calls Lifelock to give them sensitive personal information and the person they are giving it to has absolutely no controls placed over them as to security.

    This company is headquartered in the state of Arizona, which has the absolute highest rate of identity theft in the country.

    These reps will most likely be local.

    Connect the dots folks.

  70. Scott Smalley

    Ok, I’ve been watching this whole story since I read it in the LA Times because it apparently became newsworthy due to the fact that Fred Thompson was speaking for the company. Then with your publication’s fresh article this morning, I just can’t take it anymore. I have to weigh in.

    Ray -

    You complain that no one is willing to talk to you. Legitimate people talk to legitimate journalists. I saw that LifeLock, Davis and Maynard all talked to the LA Times.

    Legitimate journalists do not say “instead of blowing them all the time?” as you did on Howard Lindzon’s blog, nor do they speak disrespectfully to people when in public fora.

    On his blog, Howard said in his very first post that he is an investor in LifeLock. In your eagerness to discredit him, you apparently missed that when you asked (actually, more like accused) him if he were.

    You have been asked very direct questions here on Techcrunch and you have refused to answer them. I will repeat them here in case you failed to read them as well:

    What was the motivation of your original source? No one is asking you to reveal him or her.

    Did you check to see if a license had ever been fraudulently issued in Maynard’s name?

    Did you speak to American Express regarding your accusations?

    Did you read the settlements with the other defendants in the FTC issue to see if he had been treated more or less harshly?

    Did you contact the Better Business Bureau or any third party to see what LifeLock’s record is with consumers?

    Did you fact check any of your accusations with multiple sources?

    For each of these questions: If yes, what was the result and why did you not report it? If not, why not?

    I have been in business a long time and I have never seen a more personal, one-sided attack on a person or company.

    Michael Arrington has a point when it comes to the motivations behind the people who started this. You cannot help but be questioned. The same logic that you use saying that someone is hiding something if they refuse to comment applies to you as well.

    Scott

  71. ray stern

    You and “Joe Johnson” have interesting questions and points of view. I’ll respond after you identify yourselves. E-mail me your phone number and other contact info.

  72. Scott Smalley

    Either answer in a public forum or don’t. Either way, you have answered the questions.

    Like I said. Legitimate people talk to legitimate journalists.

  73. "John Doe"

    Ray has a point guys. Why don’t you come out and say who you are? He is not hiding behind a pseudonym.

    That makes him more legitimate in my eyes than you.

    Are you afraid to actually talk to Ray?

  74. ray stern

    “John Doe,” you’re just another faceless wuss entering the conversation. How do I know Scott Smalley isn’t a pseudonym? He hasn’t e-mailed me his contact info yet so I can verify his identity. All he can do is spew more faceless accusations, ie. I’m not “legitimate.” Grow some spines. As it is, this is looking more like a wanna-be anonymous mobbing.

  75. ray stern

    P.S.

    John Doe, sorry for calling you a wuss. It’s “Smalley” and “Joe Johnson” who need to come clean. I didn’t mean to offend everyone who puts an anonymous message on a comment board. That’s what it’s for. But I don’t like faceless accusers so I’ll insist that “Smalley” and “Johnson” pull back the curtain before I respond to them again.

  76. JeremiahJohnson

    Hilarious reading all of these geeks defending these LifeLock ripoff artists. A bunch of Bill Gateses you guys are not! The facts in the New Times story are irrefutable. The quotes from Maynard’s pop: genuine. (Give him a call, he’ll tell you.) Check the latest from the New Times, a followup from their columnist where he likens LifeLock shill Fred Thompson and LifeLock execs to the Three Stooges:

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com.....-scammers/

    As for the slide-rule dorks on this site who wanna give LifeLock $10 a month or whatever, they kinda explain why the Revenge of the Nerds was just a movie. In reality, you guys are total losers.

  77. A Good Father, or at least I hope so

    I have read all of the articles I could find on the Internet on this subject and I have yet to see anyone address the one burning issue that seems to jump out from the pages. What man (and I use the term lightly in this case) and father, in particluar, could ever “throw his son under the bus” like Maynard Sr has (paraphrasing “This should teach all of you fathers a lesson. Never give your son your name.”). What possible motivation could be behind that? I understand being upset when you child does something that affects you professionally and financially. Haven’t we all done some things we are not entirely proud of that have hurt others we care for? I know I have, but to take revenge (and I know no other word to express those feelings) on your own flesh and blood is simply reprehensible, in my opinion. I have heard the voices parents of convicted mass murderers screaming “I Love You” until the switch is thrown or the lethal dose of chemicals have been released and still professing their innocence long after the final deed was done. Not in this case. I think Maynard Sr should be ashamed of himself.

    I agree with the last post. Give him a call. Ask him how he could do something like that. I think I will call my Dad and thank him for not turning me in when I did some of the things I did.

  78. steve

    It’s simple in my opinion, if you have LifeLock, cancel. If you are thinking about LifeLock, move on to a service without all the “issues”.

    I registered for the service and the first thing I noticed is that they don’t take privacy seriously, anyone with basic information (email and zip) about a member can go to the ’secure” portal page and update the members profile. Once updated they can call an LifeLock agent as that person.

    I called LifeLock about the issue and they said the profile page is only used once (lie). I had a friend update my account at a different location, hundreds of people know my email address and zip code and thousand more could find out in seconds. Very, very un-secure.

    While this may not happen to 99% of members, it speaks to how LifeLock views security and privacy. If I could do the above, is my information…

    … stored in protected areas?
    … stored on secure servers?
    … sitting in a box in the lobby?
    … shredded after any printouts?
    … available to reps over the internet?

    Cheers