Comments on: The Rise Of The Prosumer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/ Startup and Technology News Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:50:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Crossover Nordic - Day 1 (part 2) « Jason DaPonte’s blog http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-2470268 Crossover Nordic - Day 1 (part 2) « Jason DaPonte’s blog Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:45:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-2470268 [...] vs. Producer’ or ‘prosumers‘ (interesting post and video on ‘The Rise of the Prosumer‘ on TechCrunch).  Media has to ‘produce platforms and inspiration (the [...] [...] vs. Producer’ or ‘prosumers‘ (interesting post and video on ‘The Rise of the Prosumer‘ on TechCrunch).  Media has to ‘produce platforms and inspiration (the [...]

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]]> By: Brands will be social movements « http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-2051599 Brands will be social movements « Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:42:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-2051599 [...] for brands doesn’t sit well with the changing roles of people: They evolved from consumers to prosumers, journalists, thieves, producers, brand ambassadors. And they don’t buy stuff anymore, they vote [...] [...] for brands doesn’t sit well with the changing roles of people: They evolved from consumers to prosumers, journalists, thieves, producers, brand ambassadors. And they don’t buy stuff anymore, they vote [...]

]]> By: » TV is Dead.Fredericton Geek Speak » Blog Archive http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1920556 » TV is Dead.Fredericton Geek Speak » Blog Archive Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:46:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1920556 [...] I think 2008 will be year of the “prosumer“. [...] [...] I think 2008 will be year of the “prosumer“. [...]

]]> By: Mike Moran is a Genius! Event Recap: Internet Strategy Forum Executive Summit | Amplify Your Search Marketing Knowledge - Amplify Interactive http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1649139 Mike Moran is a Genius! Event Recap: Internet Strategy Forum Executive Summit | Amplify Your Search Marketing Knowledge - Amplify Interactive Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:38:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1649139 [...] buzz word: “prosumer” (new to me [...] [...] buzz word: “prosumer” (new to me [...]

]]> By: David Mackey http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1476005 David Mackey Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:59:44 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1476005 Excellent video, though the timeline is a little aggressive. Excellent video, though the timeline is a little aggressive.

]]> By: Convictus http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1464175 Convictus Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:46:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1464175 Suddenly I felt as if I was at a <a href="http://www.quixtar.com/" rel="nofollow">Quixtar</a> Rally. These guys (formerly Amway) have been pushing prosumer around for a while now too. Talk about your AA/Born Again/Used Car salesman revival camp, but the producer/consumer is what they have been talking about for several years (at least 7 when I joined). They tend to use it in the context of the direct selling minions producing (by selling?) and consuming their own brand (Quixtar's) growing their volume to upping their reward check. Either way they have some book on prosumerism that is part of the constant learning/selfhelp only 19.99 must have to grow your business now where I suspect the true profit of the company for the owners <a href="http://puryear.wwdb.biz/" rel="nofollow">Ron and Georgia Puryear</a> Whole thing is odd, but not exactly an mlm in that the bottom rung can make more than the rungs above them. Either way, this is a group of very brand oriented direct sellers utilizing the prosumer not in reference to the professional consumer. Suddenly I felt as if I was at a Quixtar Rally. These guys (formerly Amway) have been pushing prosumer around for a while now too. Talk about your AA/Born Again/Used Car salesman revival camp, but the producer/consumer is what they have been talking about for several years (at least 7 when I joined). They tend to use it in the context of the direct selling minions producing (by selling?) and consuming their own brand (Quixtar’s) growing their volume to upping their reward check. Either way they have some book on prosumerism that is part of the constant learning/selfhelp only 19.99 must have to grow your business now where I suspect the true profit of the company for the owners Ron and Georgia Puryear

Whole thing is odd, but not exactly an mlm in that the bottom rung can make more than the rungs above them. Either way, this is a group of very brand oriented direct sellers utilizing the prosumer not in reference to the professional consumer.

]]> By: Egonitron http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1452292 Egonitron Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:57:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1452292 <strong>Prometeus - The Future of Media?...</strong> Here’s a very interesting video that attempts to predict the future of the internet, and media. The video is thought-provoking at least. While some of it seems unlikely (like Google buying Microsoft,) I’m not ruling anything out, and much o... Prometeus - The Future of Media?…

Here’s a very interesting video that attempts to predict the future of the internet, and media. The video is thought-provoking at least. While some of it seems unlikely (like Google buying Microsoft,) I’m not ruling anything out, and much o…

]]> By: Ted http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1447401 Ted Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:07:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1447401 Duncan, the correct word should be "pubsumer" - the portmanteau of "publisher" and "consumer." It much more sense to use "publishers" to describe the web 2.0 users writing blogs, posting pictures, etc. Duncan, the correct word should be “pubsumer” - the portmanteau of “publisher” and “consumer.” It much more sense to use “publishers” to describe the web 2.0 users writing blogs, posting pictures, etc.

]]> By: Simon http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1443693 Simon Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:53:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1443693 Hey Craig, your ownership of a domain name notwithstanding, your explanation of 'producer consumers' feels awkward. If you are implying that today's consumers do more research, and have a greater degree of influence over the development of the products they buy, then the term should really 'professional consumer'. Moreover, there is a disconnect between the real and online worlds that should be acknowledged. You can't cite cars as an example of the influence of prosumers, since they had nothing to do with the production. This thread is trying to show the role that consumers of media are playing in a web 2.0 world - that is they *are* playing a role in producing what they consume. I still think it's a missappropriation of the word. Hey Craig, your ownership of a domain name notwithstanding, your explanation of ‘producer consumers’ feels awkward. If you are implying that today’s consumers do more research, and have a greater degree of influence over the development of the products they buy, then the term should really ‘professional consumer’. Moreover, there is a disconnect between the real and online worlds that should be acknowledged. You can’t cite cars as an example of the influence of prosumers, since they had nothing to do with the production. This thread is trying to show the role that consumers of media are playing in a web 2.0 world - that is they *are* playing a role in producing what they consume. I still think it’s a missappropriation of the word.

]]> By: Craig Cockburn http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1441430 Craig Cockburn Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:29:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1441430 As the owner of prosume.com, I beg to differ with some of the posters here. Prosumer means professional consumer especially with regard to hi end electronics goods. However there is a secondary meaning that has been growing in use since the late 90s and that is of the producer consumer or the consumer who doesnt just accept what they are given but who actively researches the market and seeks to influence the market. More recently with the rise of Web 2.0 and crowdsourcing we are seeing the new prosumerism - people don't just buy goods (accept what is given) they <em>prosume</em> them, and influence what is made. I blogged about this <a href="http://www.siliconglen.com/news/2006/04/web-20-i-prosume.html" rel="nofollow">over a year ago</a>. Particular examples of prosumerism would be <a href="http://www.crowdspirit.org/" rel="nofollow">Crowdspirit</a> which is seeking to democratise the manufacturing of electronic goods. Consider the model T. Any colour you like so long as it is black. Now when you buy a car there are countless modifications you can have. This customisation of new products and consumers driving product creation is prosumerism. As the owner of prosume.com, I beg to differ with some of the posters here. Prosumer means professional consumer especially with regard to hi end electronics goods.

However there is a secondary meaning that has been growing in use since the late 90s and that is of the producer consumer or the consumer who doesnt just accept what they are given but who actively researches the market and seeks to influence the market. More recently with the rise of Web 2.0 and crowdsourcing we are seeing the new prosumerism - people don’t just buy goods (accept what is given) they prosume them, and influence what is made. I blogged about this over a year ago. Particular examples of prosumerism would be Crowdspirit which is seeking to democratise the manufacturing of electronic goods.

Consider the model T. Any colour you like so long as it is black. Now when you buy a car there are countless modifications you can have. This customisation of new products and consumers driving product creation is prosumerism.

]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1441004 David Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:37:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1441004 Alfred, is that truthy? Is Colbert behind this? Alfred, is that truthy? Is Colbert behind this?

]]> By: David http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1441000 David Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:36:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1441000 Haha, this thread is awesome. I can't speak as eloquently as Whatever but his point is more or less how I feel. The term has been around forever and instead of matter-of-factly saying "the newcontext" just own up to the fact that maybe the 'publish' button was clicked a little too hastily. We're a forgiving bunch! :-) Haha, this thread is awesome. I can’t speak as eloquently as Whatever but his point is more or less how I feel. The term has been around forever and instead of matter-of-factly saying “the newcontext” just own up to the fact that maybe the ‘publish’ button was clicked a little too hastily. We’re a forgiving bunch! :-)

]]> By: Alfred http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1440948 Alfred Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:10:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1440948 If you read the Wikipedia article you'll find out that the consumer+producer meaning came first and the consumer+professional meaning of prosumer came later. If you read the Wikipedia article you’ll find out that the consumer+producer meaning came first and the consumer+professional meaning of prosumer came later.

]]> By: Simon http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1440254 Simon Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:58:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1440254 I echo many of the comments here. It is the height of arrogance to take an existing word with an existing meaning and try to co-opt it. I realize that it's tempting to wield one's influence in this way, to try to re-mint a term, but it's also irresponsible. We are all custodians of the language we speak and write and this sort of behaviour demonstrates an abuse of this trust. I echo many of the comments here. It is the height of arrogance to take an existing word with an existing meaning and try to co-opt it. I realize that it’s tempting to wield one’s influence in this way, to try to re-mint a term, but it’s also irresponsible. We are all custodians of the language we speak and write and this sort of behaviour demonstrates an abuse of this trust.

]]> By: Concrete Stain http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1440131 Concrete Stain Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:06:52 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1440131 his voice / did add a little / - but it could use some clarification .. his pronounciation fo "Tyrannasourous" is as bad as my spelling of it - - RB his voice / did add a little /

- but it could use some clarification .. his pronounciation fo “Tyrannasourous” is as bad as my spelling of it -

- RB

]]> By: Building Ambisonia.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1438548 Building Ambisonia.com Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:01:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1438548 <strong>Prosumer = Producer + Consumer...</strong> I think I’ve got something wrong with Ambisonia. Now that I think of it, it is pretty obvious. There should not be a gap between the person listening to the surround sounds and the person producing the surround sound. Ambisonia should not target ... Prosumer = Producer + Consumer…

I think I’ve got something wrong with Ambisonia. Now that I think of it, it is pretty obvious.
There should not be a gap between the person listening to the surround sounds and the person producing the surround sound. Ambisonia should not target …

]]> By: centrestage http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1436017 centrestage Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:59:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1436017 <strong>Prometeus - Die mediale Revolution...</strong> ...... Prometeus - Die mediale Revolution…

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]]> By: lemon obrien http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434456 lemon obrien Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:21:26 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434456 ++Drama 2.0 ++Drama 2.0

]]> By: Colin Dowling http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434219 Colin Dowling Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:42:59 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434219 Technology and the long tail have created a threat to the better trained and better funded masses. Just as anyone with 5 grand can launch a web based application, anyone with an internet connection can be a writer, a cinematographer, designer. The oddline art world, where one man's trash is another man's sculpture has been embracing the ambiguous distinction betwen professionals and amateurs for years. Deal with it. Nice video. Plenty entertaing. Technology and the long tail have created a threat to the better trained and better funded masses. Just as anyone with 5 grand can launch a web based application, anyone with an internet connection can be a writer, a cinematographer, designer. The oddline art world, where one man’s trash is another man’s sculpture has been embracing the ambiguous distinction betwen professionals and amateurs for years. Deal with it.

Nice video. Plenty entertaing.

]]> By: :: r y a n :: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434205 :: r y a n :: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:35:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434205 “but in the Web 2.0 context it’s producer + consumer.” Uh - No. Prosumer is Professional+Consumer. If you came from the professional design//photo//video world you would know this and not try to toss off an excuse that under the guise of "Web 2.0" it has a different meaning. Last I checked "Web 2.0" was an abused marketing term that in itself has been reduced to having little meaning. Is this the new game of "Web 2.0" now? Mashing up existing definitions of established terms to make them what you want? Actually - craparama! It's happened to "beta" already in the "Web 2.0" world. This would be a great topic. What other words have had their meanings reworked under the guise of "Web 2.0" can everyone think of? “but in the Web 2.0 context it’s producer + consumer.”

Uh - No. Prosumer is Professional+Consumer. If you came from the professional design//photo//video world you would know this and not try to toss off an excuse that under the guise of “Web 2.0″ it has a different meaning. Last I checked “Web 2.0″ was an abused marketing term that in itself has been reduced to having little meaning.

Is this the new game of “Web 2.0″ now? Mashing up existing definitions of established terms to make them what you want? Actually - craparama! It’s happened to “beta” already in the “Web 2.0″ world.

This would be a great topic. What other words have had their meanings reworked under the guise of “Web 2.0″ can everyone think of?

]]> By: Ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434193 Ryan Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:29:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1434193 Please, for the love of God, just type out "producer/consumer" and do not force-feed another inane buzzword into the nomenclature. I smell a "Web 2.0 Dictionary" book deal in the works. Please, for the love of God, just type out “producer/consumer” and do not force-feed another inane buzzword into the nomenclature. I smell a “Web 2.0 Dictionary” book deal in the works.

]]> By: nedders http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1433878 nedders Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:19:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1433878 latin roots: sumere= take up (use) ducere= lead (in) pro=for con=with (via french and middle english) this is not rocket science but neither is it lego i think you have all been conduced? (led up the garden path) latin roots:

sumere= take up (use)

ducere= lead (in)

pro=for

con=with

(via french and middle english)

this is not rocket science

but neither is it lego

i think you have all been conduced?

(led up the garden path)

]]> By: Whatever http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1433719 Whatever Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:10:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1433719 "but in the Web 2.0 context it’s producer + consumer." LOL! How fucking lame. Do you morons just sit around and make this shit up? The word has been around, already has a context and just because you masturbate over "Web 2.0" it doesn't change shit. What a fucking putz. “but in the Web 2.0 context it’s producer + consumer.”

LOL! How fucking lame.

Do you morons just sit around and make this shit up? The word has been around, already has a context and just because you masturbate over “Web 2.0″ it doesn’t change shit.

What a fucking putz.

]]> By: Elliot http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1433367 Elliot Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:46:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/the-rise-of-the-prosumer/#comment-1433367 We will likely see increased prevalence of prosumer-style web applications as technologies such as implicit prefiltering and <a HREF="http://blog.eturner.net/?p=15" rel="nofollow">automatic republishing</a> are further embraced by both developers and innovative Internet companies. We will likely see increased prevalence of prosumer-style web applications as technologies such as implicit prefiltering and automatic republishing are further embraced by both developers and innovative Internet companies.

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