Comments on: Jingle Awarded Patent For Advertising-Supported 411 Calls http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/ Startup and Technology News Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:57:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: BankBlast » Blog Archive » GPay, a new patent application from Google http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1597051 BankBlast » Blog Archive » GPay, a new patent application from Google Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:42:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1597051 [...] I put this this patent application in the “pretty obvious” bucket. While not as blatantly obvious as some patents, it is far from ground breaking [...] [...] I put this this patent application in the “pretty obvious” bucket. While not as blatantly obvious as some patents, it is far from ground breaking [...]

]]> By: Chad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1447871 Chad Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:19:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1447871 I was an early users of FREE-411 (Jingles stuff) and never used it again after trying GOOG-411. I concur with cringle's claim that GOOG-411 is MUCH MUCH better in voice recognition. The search/retrieval process with GOOG-411 is night and day better versus FREE-411 which is frustrating to use with terrible voice recognition. I was an early users of FREE-411 (Jingles stuff) and never used it again after trying GOOG-411. I concur with cringle’s claim that GOOG-411 is MUCH MUCH better in voice recognition. The search/retrieval process with GOOG-411 is night and day better versus FREE-411 which is frustrating to use with terrible voice recognition.

]]> By: cringle http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1442769 cringle Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:28:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1442769 in response to those who complained about the quality of jingle's speech recognition... talk to nuance... and try 800-GOOG-411 .. .it's the same service with about three times more accurate speech recognition.... in response to those who complained about the quality of jingle’s speech recognition… talk to nuance… and try 800-GOOG-411 .. .it’s the same service with about three times more accurate speech recognition….

]]> By: Steve http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1433501 Steve Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:36:21 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1433501 Pause to consider the possibility that you do not know enough about the patent system to pass judgement on this patent or the system. Pause to consider the possibility that you do not know enough about the patent system to pass judgement on this patent or the system.

]]> By: Aydin Mirzaee http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1431509 Aydin Mirzaee Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:32:56 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1431509 in terms of prior art, aren't there just a lot of companies that let you hear an ad and the provide some service on the phone (like a reduced rate phone call)? JaJah does this... also there are a bunch of phone cards that do something similar too... its a little different, but the general concept is the same... if this patent stands in court, technically you could patent listening to an advertising and then getting driving directions, or sports scores, etc... in terms of prior art, aren’t there just a lot of companies that let you hear an ad and the provide some service on the phone (like a reduced rate phone call)? JaJah does this… also there are a bunch of phone cards that do something similar too… its a little different, but the general concept is the same… if this patent stands in court, technically you could patent listening to an advertising and then getting driving directions, or sports scores, etc…

]]> By: JavaGuy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430915 JavaGuy Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:27:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430915 Lame. Patent reform now. Lame. Patent reform now.

]]> By: Paul Mannus http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430899 Paul Mannus Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:21:57 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430899 @Robert Harris: "Tagline Jingles for Websites" ... what a cool concept! Great jingle you have on JingleAds too. Come to think of it, I have not "heard" any taglines greeting sang on any landing pages yet... definitely an untapped market there. Certainly an effective but a less complicated idea than one that needs a team of high paid lawyers for any patents! @Robert Harris: “Tagline Jingles for Websites” … what a cool concept! Great jingle you have on JingleAds too. Come to think of it, I have not “heard” any taglines greeting sang on any landing pages yet… definitely an untapped market there. Certainly an effective but a less complicated idea than one that needs a team of high paid lawyers for any patents!

]]> By: Robert Harris http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430733 Robert Harris Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:07:31 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430733 If it works it works! sounds very cool! wonder if they need an original jingle ad company to do their ads at a very reasonable fee especially if the production load gets too heavy! out sourcing is very affordable guys! we like your concept, cheers jingleads.com If it works it works! sounds very cool! wonder if they need an original jingle ad company to do their ads at a very reasonable fee especially if the production load gets too heavy! out sourcing is very affordable guys! we like your concept,
cheers
jingleads.com

]]> By: Al Ramirez http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430582 Al Ramirez Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:00:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430582 Patents are only really good for manufactured products or actual operating systems. This is just integration of existing platforms and really just a marketing tool as well as a line of business for lawyers to manage. Patents are only really good for manufactured products or actual operating systems. This is just integration of existing platforms and really just a marketing tool as well as a line of business for lawyers to manage.

]]> By: dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430561 dave Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:53:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430561 are you shitting me? if they're able to defend this patent, then it's priceline.com all over again...damned end of the world bullshit... are you shitting me? if they’re able to defend this patent, then it’s priceline.com all over again…damned end of the world bullshit…

]]> By: Austin Storm http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430528 Austin Storm Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:37:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430528 Now they don't have to worry about competing, if they don't want to. They could just become a company of lawyers, and sue everyone else. Now they don’t have to worry about competing, if they don’t want to. They could just become a company of lawyers, and sue everyone else.

]]> By: Dave Toledo http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430512 Dave Toledo Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:28:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430512 Where's the innovation to be awarded a patent? I don't see it. Where’s the innovation to be awarded a patent? I don’t see it.

]]> By: Steve parker http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430506 Steve parker Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:27:19 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430506 1-800-SAN DIEGO was operating their own directory assistance business, 2 months before the patented request was even filed. The patent request was an exact copy of what 1-800-SAN DIEGO was offering at the time. This would be a tough court battle for Jingle if the try to enforce it 1-800-SAN DIEGO was operating their own directory assistance business, 2 months before the patented request was even filed. The patent request was an exact copy of what 1-800-SAN DIEGO was offering at the time. This would be a tough court battle for Jingle if the try to enforce it

]]> By: Paul http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430265 Paul Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:45:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430265 Great, another patent! Great, another patent!

]]> By: WhatAboutPriorArt http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430158 WhatAboutPriorArt Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:59:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430158 This patent is garbage and will not stand up in court. 1) MovieFone technically exists in the wild as prior art. You call to get information (times) and hear relevant ads based on your location or choice. 2) Just because a database is tied to a process and hardware doesn't mean you can patent a business model. The SIC lookup is clever, but it's an obvious mechanism for matching selection criteria to content. This patent is garbage and will not stand up in court.

1) MovieFone technically exists in the wild as prior art. You call to get information (times) and hear relevant ads based on your location or choice.

2) Just because a database is tied to a process and hardware doesn’t mean you can patent a business model.

The SIC lookup is clever, but it’s an obvious mechanism for matching selection criteria to content.

]]> By: Stop supporting VCs... http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430126 Stop supporting VCs... Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:47:54 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430126 Look at milk & food prices. It's beginning to rise to high. Why is TC giving free access to rich people. America need health care. Rich people don't care... I think you should watch "sicko" movie Look at milk & food prices. It’s beginning to rise to high. Why is TC giving free access to rich people.

America need health care. Rich people don’t care… I think you should watch “sicko” movie

]]> By: Lex http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430114 Lex Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:44:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430114 I love patents. "No one will do this better than us, because no one will be allowed to do this at all!!" Inn0vashun! I love patents.

“No one will do this better than us, because no one will be allowed to do this at all!!”

Inn0vashun!

]]> By: Tony Chen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430107 Tony Chen Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:42:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430107 I'm filing to patent the wheel. I’m filing to patent the wheel.

]]> By: cb http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430059 cb Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:23:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430059 I have tried to use 1-800-Free-411 several dozen times after reading about it here. As a guy with a normal cell phone (yes, we still exist) who travels a lot to places I'm not familiar with, I love the idea of free 411. But this service is terrible. I don't use it anymore, because whenever I do I get so angry that I throw my phone and scream. I'm not the most articulate person, but the repeated inability of this service to recognize even the most basic words and obvious requests has driven me back to regular paying 411. I'd rather pay and keep my good mood intact. I have tried to use 1-800-Free-411 several dozen times after reading about it here. As a guy with a normal cell phone (yes, we still exist) who travels a lot to places I’m not familiar with, I love the idea of free 411. But this service is terrible. I don’t use it anymore, because whenever I do I get so angry that I throw my phone and scream. I’m not the most articulate person, but the repeated inability of this service to recognize even the most basic words and obvious requests has driven me back to regular paying 411. I’d rather pay and keep my good mood intact.

]]> By: steven http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430057 steven Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:22:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1430057 The patent system is a complete joke. Idiotic things like this should not be granted patents, there's nothing original or special about this. Here's an idea: Let's get a few of us together and just patent every existing service we can think of combined with "advertising". Ka-ching.....yep...that's about how stupid it is...but if you can't beat em... The patent system is a complete joke. Idiotic things like this should not be granted patents, there’s nothing original or special about this.

Here’s an idea: Let’s get a few of us together and just patent every existing service we can think of combined with “advertising”. Ka-ching…..yep…that’s about how stupid it is…but if you can’t beat em…

]]> By: rabble http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429995 rabble Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:56:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429995 How is it that the patent system is allowed to continue to exist. It is so clearly ANTI-innovation, the very thing it's supposed to protect. What a joke. How is it that the patent system is allowed to continue to exist. It is so clearly ANTI-innovation, the very thing it’s supposed to protect. What a joke.

]]> By: Coralpoetry http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429953 Coralpoetry Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:36:53 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429953 Why/who would use this service? I just tried a search and it worked. No gimmicks. No catches. Regards, Coral Why/who would use this service?

I just tried a search and it worked.

No gimmicks. No catches.

Regards,
Coral

]]> By: alex http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429933 alex Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:23:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429933 Just because something was 'first' doesn't make it not 'plainly obvious', something patents are not supposed to be awarded for. Im sure this patent will be overturned if it is pursued by Google or AT&T. Time to vote for more patent reform. Just because something was ‘first’ doesn’t make it not ‘plainly obvious’, something patents are not supposed to be awarded for. Im sure this patent will be overturned if it is pursued by Google or AT&T.
Time to vote for more patent reform.

]]> By: Why is this on blogging news? http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429929 Why is this on blogging news? Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:21:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429929 not web 2.0 startup company either. TC is beginning to suck. not web 2.0 startup company either. TC is beginning to suck.

]]> By: MARK KLEIN MD http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429928 MARK KLEIN MD Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:20:33 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/15/jingle-awarded-patent-for-free-411-calls/#comment-1429928 Just ask Jonathan Abrams about his Friendster patent- these things are priceless! Just ask Jonathan Abrams about his Friendster patent- these things are priceless!

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