Comments on: Powerset Releases Growth Spreadsheet Models http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/ Startup and Technology News Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:35:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: John Mills http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1430206 John Mills Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:18:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1430206 Are the people at powerset paying all the bloggers to create this hype or what??? The site doesnt even exist and they have tons of money invested on them, I hope that they dont be like dipsie. And even if powerset eventually releases and turns out to be the BEST search engine out there, people will still not use it because people are so emotional towards Google. Are the people at powerset paying all the bloggers to create this hype or what???

The site doesnt even exist and they have tons of money invested on them, I hope that they dont be like dipsie.

And even if powerset eventually releases and turns out to be the BEST search engine out there, people will still not use it because people are so emotional towards Google.

]]> By: Concrete Stain http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1429769 Concrete Stain Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:12:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1429769 Post 7/8 are DEAD ON! - stop posting until I can go and test / once and probably never use again. - Mich want a company to profile / Think www.thinkature.com - I found it via / digg / pretty cool -RB Post 7/8 are DEAD ON!

- stop posting until I can go and test / once and probably never use again.

- Mich want a company to profile / Think

http://www.thinkature.com

- I found it via / digg / pretty cool

-RB

]]> By: w2i http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1429044 w2i Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:50:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1429044 well, Let's just first see what and how powerset would look and work like and then judge. However, from what we have seen on web, so far, there is a couple of start up search engines that left us with the feeling of something that might work things out and take 0.001% from the Google’s market share, the first one is hakia.com and the second is NosyJoe.com. On the other hand, if we base our judgment solely on the information publicly available about powerset, which is not that much, it would probably be better one, but unless we all see powerset in action the only feeling left today is about well thought, planned and executed hype, buzz and public relation… Otherwise, best of luck to powerset, we all need Google alternatives on the search market. well,

Let’s just first see what and how powerset would look and work like and then judge. However, from what we have seen on web, so far, there is a couple of start up search engines that left us with the feeling of something that might work things out and take 0.001% from the Google’s market share, the first one is hakia.com and the second is NosyJoe.com.

On the other hand, if we base our judgment solely on the information publicly available about powerset, which is not that much, it would probably be better one, but unless we all see powerset in action the only feeling left today is about well thought, planned and executed hype, buzz and public relation…

Otherwise, best of luck to powerset, we all need Google alternatives on the search market.

]]> By: NLP http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428901 NLP Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:39:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428901 I suggest you look up the articles under 'Natural Language Processing' on the Google website: http://labs.google.com/papers.html Clearly, Google has been working on this heavily since 2005/2006. I suggest you look up the articles under ‘Natural Language Processing’ on the Google website:

http://labs.google.com/papers.html

Clearly, Google has been working on this heavily since 2005/2006.

]]> By: P. Norig http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428705 P. Norig Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:19:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428705 An excel "predictive model"? I believe their are several fitting functions that excel provides out of the box. What is surprising on these threads is the assumptions that Google does not already employ NLP in the background. How does one know that is not the case? Maybe Google does and when the NLP score is lower than the keywordese score you just get the best that is possible? Google now has more machine learning, linguists and related experts than anyone in the world. An excel “predictive model”? I believe their are several fitting functions that excel provides out of the box.

What is surprising on these threads is the assumptions that Google does not already employ NLP in the background. How does one know that is not the case? Maybe Google does and when the NLP score is lower than the keywordese score you just get the best that is possible? Google now has more machine learning, linguists and related experts than anyone in the world.

]]> By: R.J. Pittman http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428661 R.J. Pittman Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:59:20 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428661 I am certainly not betting against Powerset here, but I do have to agree with posts 14 and 15, Stone and John P from a marketing/positioning point of view. Dipsie was a classic boom/bust hype play beyond reproach, I knew them well. Unless Powerset is aiming to be first *native* 3rd party app for iPhone (sorry for the plug), it would probably do well to put its weight behind the search product with a laser beam focus, first and foremost. Lesson #1 in marketing: You are not your target market. No matter how well we think we can step outside ourselves and be like the core x hundred million searchers, we can't. Example: can the average end user/searcher appreciate the value of one particular predictive model versus another? It may just muddy the waters for them. Better to let the users quietly discover the end results of the search experience themselves. This approached worked for at least one solid search co. I can think of... -- R I am certainly not betting against Powerset here, but I do have to agree with posts 14 and 15, Stone and John P from a marketing/positioning point of view. Dipsie was a classic boom/bust hype play beyond reproach, I knew them well. Unless Powerset is aiming to be first *native* 3rd party app for iPhone (sorry for the plug), it would probably do well to put its weight behind the search product with a laser beam focus, first and foremost. Lesson #1 in marketing: You are not your target market. No matter how well we think we can step outside ourselves and be like the core x hundred million searchers, we can’t. Example: can the average end user/searcher appreciate the value of one particular predictive model versus another? It may just muddy the waters for them. Better to let the users quietly discover the end results of the search experience themselves. This approached worked for at least one solid search co. I can think of…

– R

]]> By: John P. http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428632 John P. Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:47:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428632 Wow you can really tell what kind of company they are. I doubt the Google guys jerked off to Excel predictions all day. They concentrated on making a great search engine and they scaled it with blood and sweat -- not careful planning. I'm betting against Powerset -- big time. Wow you can really tell what kind of company they are. I doubt the Google guys jerked off to Excel predictions all day. They concentrated on making a great search engine and they scaled it with blood and sweat — not careful planning.

I’m betting against Powerset — big time.

]]> By: Stone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428527 Stone Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:56:15 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428527 Powerset reminds me of a company from 2004 named Dipsie.com. Dipsie purported to have a Google killer in the works. They kept saying the product was coming. Sadly, it never came and they faded away without as much as a whimper. Powerset should lead with their core product not ridiculous predictive modeling documents. They should launch their product and succeed or fail based solely on the quality of their search experience. Right now they're all talk and no product. Powerset reminds me of a company from 2004 named Dipsie.com. Dipsie purported to have a Google killer in the works. They kept saying the product was coming. Sadly, it never came and they faded away without as much as a whimper.

Powerset should lead with their core product not ridiculous predictive modeling documents. They should launch their product and succeed or fail based solely on the quality of their search experience. Right now they’re all talk and no product.

]]> By: You people are weird... http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428485 You people are weird... Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:36:00 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428485 Why is everyone here hate POWERSET.COM so much? Can you guys stop mocking powerset.com? They haven't launched the product yet... Why is everyone here hate POWERSET.COM so much?

Can you guys stop mocking powerset.com?
They haven’t launched the product yet…

]]> By: Tony Chen http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428296 Tony Chen Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:09:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428296 Last I heard from them they acquired someone. Last I heard from them they acquired someone.

]]> By: Kelli http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428289 Kelli Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:07:41 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428289 I just find it so laughable that they are trying to beat Google, they will be lucky to beat Ask. The problem with all this non-press is that they are killing their product before it even comes out. Over hype will put Powerset into the Deadpool faster than Clown Co (and when was the last time we heard about that crap?). I'm at the stage right now where I won't even try it just out of spite. I hope Google buries them and does it fast. I just find it so laughable that they are trying to beat Google, they will be lucky to beat Ask. The problem with all this non-press is that they are killing their product before it even comes out. Over hype will put Powerset into the Deadpool faster than Clown Co (and when was the last time we heard about that crap?). I’m at the stage right now where I won’t even try it just out of spite. I hope Google buries them and does it fast.

]]> By: Satish http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428278 Satish Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:03:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428278 Where'd the Ajaxwindows.com post go?! Where’d the Ajaxwindows.com post go?!

]]> By: MajorNetworkNews http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428243 MajorNetworkNews Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:44:46 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428243 to #7 ... how true how true ! to #7 … how true how true !

]]> By: km4 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428232 km4 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:39:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428232 predictive modeling to guess early growth rates ... a) Hype b) Tripe c) Pipe dream d) Who f*cking cares Show us tangible sales results with real customers who are using your software ! predictive modeling to guess early growth rates …
a) Hype
b) Tripe
c) Pipe dream
d) Who f*cking cares

Show us tangible sales results with real customers who are using your software !

]]> By: stone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428176 stone Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:12:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428176 How about asking them to release their search engine so we can all try it once and never use it again? How about asking them to release their search engine so we can all try it once and never use it again?

]]> By: Scott Rafer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428171 Scott Rafer Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:10:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428171 Make it a facebook app and gather their first few thousand users explicitly? Make it a facebook app and gather their first few thousand users explicitly?

]]> By: Carmelo Lisciotto http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428151 Carmelo Lisciotto Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:59:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428151 It's the old "evil empire" syndrom... The guy on top is targeted sooner or later. Carmelo Lisciotto It’s the old “evil empire” syndrom…
The guy on top is targeted sooner or later.

Carmelo Lisciotto

]]> By: Craig Hughes http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428108 Craig Hughes Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:31:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428108 As part of the alternate search crowd, I find it amazing how much of a focus is placed on 'beating' Google. There seems to be a notion that developing natural language search technologies or knocking together gimmicky interfaces will somehow dislodge the hundreds of millions of users who find great success and might I add, comfort when using Google. Is a Google search really that bad or inaccurate? Isn't having to do a little manual rooting part of the fun of searching and surfing the web. Isn't the journey sometimes the reward? Doesn't a little serendipity make life a whole lot more interesting? The perfect results page does not exist and never will... and beating Google will take one hell of a behavioral modification of the planet's internet users. Find out whose blogging about Powerset: http://blogs.fisssh.com/fisssh.php?q=powerset As part of the alternate search crowd, I find it amazing how much of a focus is placed on ‘beating’ Google. There seems to be a notion that developing natural language search technologies or knocking together gimmicky interfaces will somehow dislodge the hundreds of millions of users who find great success and might I add, comfort when using Google.

Is a Google search really that bad or inaccurate? Isn’t having to do a little manual rooting part of the fun of searching and surfing the web. Isn’t the journey sometimes the reward? Doesn’t a little serendipity make life a whole lot more interesting?

The perfect results page does not exist and never will… and beating Google will take one hell of a behavioral modification of the planet’s internet users.

Find out whose blogging about Powerset:
http://blogs.fisssh.com/fisssh.php?q=powerset

]]> By: ryan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428101 ryan Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:29:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428101 Ok, is this news? I hope this is the last Powerset post until they launch if at all. For some reason I already have a negative impression about this company without even seeing it. Ok, is this news? I hope this is the last Powerset post until they launch if at all. For some reason I already have a negative impression about this company without even seeing it.

]]> By: MajorNetworkNews http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428089 MajorNetworkNews Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:14:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428089 A little more ... what a let down ... I wait all day for another post after the virtual world one, and this is what I get ... sigh ... will wait for the next one though A little more … what a let down … I wait all day for another post after the virtual world one, and this is what I get … sigh … will wait for the next one though

]]> By: MajorNetworkNews http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428088 MajorNetworkNews Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:13:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/powerset-releases-growth-spreadsheet-models/#comment-1428088 What a non story, are you enamored with these guys or what ? 1st some screenshots, whoopee 2nd they pre announce that they are going to release some empty spreadsheet, complete with some exponential curve and charts I bet, double whoopee yet you keep pumping them up vis a vis google, something just seems fishy What a non story, are you enamored with these guys or what ?

1st some screenshots, whoopee

2nd they pre announce that they are going to release some empty spreadsheet, complete with some exponential curve and charts I bet, double whoopee

yet you keep pumping them up vis a vis google, something just seems fishy

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