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]]> By: Just a random blog ! http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1474265 Just a random blog ! Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:03:04 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1474265 [...] several other mobile solutions for playing music on your phone. The most recent player has been MusicStation, which mimics iTunes and plays songs with accompanying album art. If you’re only interested [...] [...] several other mobile solutions for playing music on your phone. The most recent player has been MusicStation, which mimics iTunes and plays songs with accompanying album art. If you’re only interested [...]

]]> By: alexislli http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1459588 alexislli Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:29:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1459588 Something to keep in mind. I'm guessing, but I'll bet I'm pretty damn close. $599 - 8 gb iPhone (with 8.75 sales = $651.40) http://www.pspconverter.com/iphone_converter/ Something to keep in mind. I’m guessing, but I’ll bet I’m pretty damn close.

$599 – 8 gb iPhone (with 8.75 sales = $651.40)

http://www.pspc...hone_converter/

]]> By: inbabble.com http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1437548 inbabble.com Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:58:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1437548 <strong>iPhone: “disappointment looks almost inevitable”...</strong> The UK’s Sunday Times ran an article this weekend, by Grant Ringshaw, on the impending launch of the iPhone on June 29. The closing paragraph summed up the article: “The iPhone will sell in large numbers, not least to iPod and Mac computer ... iPhone: “disappointment looks almost inevitable”…

The UK’s Sunday Times ran an article this weekend, by Grant Ringshaw, on the impending launch of the iPhone on June 29. The closing paragraph summed up the article:
“The iPhone will sell in large numbers, not least to iPod and Mac computer …

]]> By: Scott H http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1430804 Scott H Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:37:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1430804 Kim you are right - and there is no model out there where are carrier is not collecting data charges somewhere in the model. At 2.99 euros per week, the labels will be taking 50% minimum leaving the carriers to share 1.50 with Omnifone....this is not attracitive to a carrier, especially for heavy users. As the charges are being added to the carrier bill, a standard revenue share is roughly 40% of the end user price - so unless Omnifone plan to survive on what is left, I can't see the model being sustainable. No thunder being stolen here. Also in January the press was saying "...that works on all major music handsets..." Sorry but that is far rom 85% - 90% per cent of handsets. Kim you are right – and there is no model out there where are carrier is not collecting data charges somewhere in the model. At 2.99 euros per week, the labels will be taking 50% minimum leaving the carriers to share 1.50 with Omnifone….this is not attracitive to a carrier, especially for heavy users. As the charges are being added to the carrier bill, a standard revenue share is roughly 40% of the end user price – so unless Omnifone plan to survive on what is left, I can’t see the model being sustainable. No thunder being stolen here.

Also in January the press was saying “…that works on all major music handsets…” Sorry but that is far rom 85% – 90% per cent of handsets.

]]> By: Ed http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1430152 Ed Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:58:02 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1430152 I agree with 5, 12, 17. I already have music and will get more that I can place on several devices. Why pay someone addn'l money monthly to rent music for just one device? Think about it, it doesn't make sense. That doesn't sound like competitive device to an iPhone. I agree with 5, 12, 17. I already have music and will get more that I can place on several devices. Why pay someone addn’l money monthly to rent music for just one device? Think about it, it doesn’t make sense. That doesn’t sound like competitive device to an iPhone.

]]> By: Da Truff http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1430053 Da Truff Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:20:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1430053 I buy music DRM free. I don't RENT music and I don't let anyone else decide how, where, when, and on which device I will listen to it. No music "rental" company will ever gain any kind of broad consumer support. I buy music DRM free. I don’t RENT music and I don’t let anyone else decide how, where, when, and on which device I will listen to it.

No music “rental” company will ever gain any kind of broad consumer support.

]]> By: Firefox Fan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1429997 Firefox Fan Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:56:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1429997 it is reasonable price and if it would work like last.fm i would not hesitate to subscribe. it's now possible to connect your phone to any music device so services like those could become center of your home entertainment. most important thing is that we don't have to pay for bytes to listen good music. it is reasonable price and if it would work like last.fm i would not hesitate to subscribe. it’s now possible to connect your phone to any music device so services like those could become center of your home entertainment.

most important thing is that we don’t have to pay for bytes to listen good music.

]]> By: Concrete Stain http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1429750 Concrete Stain Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:02:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1429750 Happy someone is going to compete with apple / - that study although would / deter me - from competing Happy someone is going to compete with apple /

– that study although would / deter me – from competing

]]> By: LeavingTheDayJob http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1429072 LeavingTheDayJob Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:04:05 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1429072 @Kim According to their website there aren't any data charges. Presumably they work in conjunction with the network operator. Which in turn means they'll probably be limited to one operator per country initially as the networks will want exclusivity. @Kim

According to their website there aren’t any data charges. Presumably they work in conjunction with the network operator. Which in turn means they’ll probably be limited to one operator per country initially as the networks will want exclusivity.

]]> By: Kenneth http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1429031 Kenneth Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:43:36 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1429031 "... will work on all 2.5-3G compatible phones" Not true, they've launched with Telenor in Sweden with only 3 supported phones. (http://www.telenor.se/150_1.jsp?service_id=149347) “… will work on all 2.5-3G compatible phones”

Not true, they’ve launched with Telenor in Sweden with only 3 supported phones. (http://www.tele...rvice_id=149347)

]]> By: Thomas Knuewer http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1429027 Thomas Knuewer Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:42:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1429027 Who would actually need this? It's a way too expensive service in a closed environment. If you really think anyone wouldn't buy the Iphone on which you'll (hopefully) be able to synchronize your music from Itunes, because there's another phone where you have to pay and pay for your music - then you're falling for their pr rubbish. You might say, this poses a risk to Itunes sales - but not to the Iphone. Who would actually need this? It’s a way too expensive service in a closed environment. If you really think anyone wouldn’t buy the Iphone on which you’ll (hopefully) be able to synchronize your music from Itunes, because there’s another phone where you have to pay and pay for your music – then you’re falling for their pr rubbish. You might say, this poses a risk to Itunes sales – but not to the Iphone.

]]> By: Tom http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1428977 Tom Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:20:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1428977 Thats seriously cheap Thats seriously cheap

]]> By: Kim Rampling http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1428623 Kim Rampling Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:42:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1428623 Sounds great 2.99 euros per week for unlimited downloads, but what about the Telco's data charges? They have always screwed up their business models by charging completely exhortationate rates for date transfers to mobile phones. Anyone know if they have learn't their lesson with this new service? Or will they expect us to pay an extra x amount of euro (you name the price depending on connection/download time etc., etc) PER song in data download costs, as they seem to right now? Sounds great 2.99 euros per week for unlimited downloads, but what about the Telco’s data charges? They have always screwed up their business models by charging completely exhortationate rates for date transfers to mobile phones. Anyone know if they have learn’t their lesson with this new service? Or will they expect us to pay an extra x amount of euro (you name the price depending on connection/download time etc., etc) PER song in data download costs, as they seem to right now?

]]> By: Dave http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1428237 Dave Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:42:07 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1428237 Looks like Omnifone is far behind Didiom. Didiom's ultra sleek app is free and I don't pay any service fees. Looks like Omnifone is far behind Didiom. Didiom’s ultra sleek app is free and I don’t pay any service fees.

]]> By: bill http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1428075 bill Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:04:13 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1428075 I'm not sure that retail is the way to go. The carriers in general need to move away from the walled-garden, AOL model of years ago. What is clear to me is that the iPhone is ushering in an era of parity between mobile and web... where the customer is not going to pay twice for their media. Sites like Cellfish.com and others that offer transitional media lockers to access via both web and mobile. Ultimately this will be monetized more by advertising or subscription than the ala carte model. I’m not sure that retail is the way to go. The carriers in general need to move away from the walled-garden, AOL model of years ago. What is clear to me is that the iPhone is ushering in an era of parity between mobile and web… where the customer is not going to pay twice for their media. Sites like Cellfish.com and others that offer transitional media lockers to access via both web and mobile. Ultimately this will be monetized more by advertising or subscription than the ala carte model.

]]> By: Phil M http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1428059 Phil M Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:56:16 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1428059 I really love Pandora and would hate to see them hit the deadpool (which, unfortunately, seems eminent). This looks like the kind of mobile platform they need. So Pandora, if you are reading, get on this. You are one epic Biz Dev deal and one hell of a intergration way from 1.) saving your epiclly awesome genome idea and 2.) actully making money. I really love Pandora and would hate to see them hit the deadpool (which, unfortunately, seems eminent). This looks like the kind of mobile platform they need. So Pandora, if you are reading, get on this. You are one epic Biz Dev deal and one hell of a intergration way from 1.) saving your epiclly awesome genome idea and 2.) actully making money.

]]> By: Prada Phone http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1428039 Prada Phone Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:45:17 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1428039 Well Yahoo has the right idea charging a flat rate for millions of songs for downloads but their is always artists that think their " Too Important " for agreeing to such sharing of intellectual copywrite. Shania Twain is one of these greedy people. Well Yahoo has the right idea charging a flat rate for millions of songs for downloads but their is always artists that think their ” Too Important ” for agreeing to such sharing of intellectual copywrite. Shania Twain is one of these greedy people.

]]> By: Kyle Johnson http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1428021 Kyle Johnson Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:34:42 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1428021 Why would anyone pay to rent their music yet again. Let's see, in the US the RIAA wants you to buy a CD, then pay again to buy or rent your music to play on your computer, then pay again to rent your music to play on your phone. This in addition to the money the collect from web broadcasters and radio stations. Sorry, I'd rather not pay multiple times to rent the same music just because I have a different device. Why would anyone pay to rent their music yet again. Let’s see, in the US the RIAA wants you to buy a CD, then pay again to buy or rent your music to play on your computer, then pay again to rent your music to play on your phone. This in addition to the money the collect from web broadcasters and radio stations. Sorry, I’d rather not pay multiple times to rent the same music just because I have a different device.

]]> By: Wes http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1427980 Wes Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:15:49 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1427980 It would be good if this could be released around the world soon. It would be good if this could be released around the world soon.

]]> By: Dan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1427966 Dan Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:10:23 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1427966 Might want to add Nutsie to that list of "other mobile music apps." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE1cpegGquY Might want to add Nutsie to that list of “other mobile music apps.”

http://www.yout...h?v=yE1cpegGquY

]]> By: Kyle http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1427929 Kyle Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:49:08 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1427929 Competition is good for the consumer, and in the mobile market, long overdue. Please release in America. Competition is good for the consumer, and in the mobile market, long overdue. Please release in America.

]]> By: wayne lambright http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-1427893 wayne lambright Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:29:24 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/14/music-labels-to-steal-iphone-thunder/#comment-1427893 Wow, that could be huge. Wow, that could be huge.

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