Comments on: Google Rated Bottom For Privacy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/ Startup and Technology News Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:29:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: S http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1484017 S Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:03:01 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1484017 I believe that if you're worried about Google collecting your private data, and IP, ect, in it's logs, then you have done something wrong. But if you haven't done anything wrong, then don't worry. I believe that if you’re worried about Google collecting your private data, and IP, ect, in it’s logs, then you have done something wrong.
But if you haven’t done anything wrong, then don’t worry.

]]> By: Jess http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1425233 Jess Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:40:50 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1425233 i too welcome my new googly over lord i too welcome my new googly over lord

]]> By: Phil http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1424494 Phil Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:29:25 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1424494 All those worrying about googles purchase of 23andme have overlooked something quite simple : the co-founder of it is married to one of the google founders. I suspect that had more to do with it, then any usefulness the company may have been to google. All those worrying about googles purchase of 23andme have overlooked something quite simple : the co-founder of it is married to one of the google founders.
I suspect that had more to do with it, then any usefulness the company may have been to google.

]]> By: Robin Massart http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1424036 Robin Massart Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:43:34 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1424036 What I find strange is people who say "I don't mind Google keeping my personal search, email and calendar history on file" with complete ignorance of what might happen in the future. There's no way to keep search private, as the AOL fiasco showed. Same with email. The content of these things is subjective and therefore can be used to identify people even without the exact email address. This is really scary and at the moment there is no "DELETE" key which I believe contravenes UK data privacy law. This is not about what Google@2007 will do with the data. It is what Google@2020 under pressure from shareholders wanting higher returns will do with the data. Let alone any hackers who manage to get into the system. I think Google is great and provides lots of great apps, but does it really need to store every last search I do and exactly how does that help me? I have yet to see targeted services that actually work. More often than not they get it completely wrong (pointing me in the direction of a mac when I want to buy some fruit). Stop trying to second guess what I want and just give me a decent search tool! Of course this applies to all web companies not just Google. But lets face it, by and large search still really sucks and is getting worse due to all the link farms trying to cash in on Google's business plan. What I find strange is people who say “I don’t mind Google keeping my personal search, email and calendar history on file” with complete ignorance of what might happen in the future. There’s no way to keep search private, as the AOL fiasco showed. Same with email. The content of these things is subjective and therefore can be used to identify people even without the exact email address. This is really scary and at the moment there is no “DELETE” key which I believe contravenes UK data privacy law.

This is not about what Google@2007 will do with the data. It is what Google@2020 under pressure from shareholders wanting higher returns will do with the data. Let alone any hackers who manage to get into the system.

I think Google is great and provides lots of great apps, but does it really need to store every last search I do and exactly how does that help me? I have yet to see targeted services that actually work. More often than not they get it completely wrong (pointing me in the direction of a mac when I want to buy some fruit). Stop trying to second guess what I want and just give me a decent search tool! Of course this applies to all web companies not just Google. But lets face it, by and large search still really sucks and is getting worse due to all the link farms trying to cash in on Google’s business plan.

]]> By: dan http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422958 dan Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:53:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422958 I welcome my new Googly overlord. I welcome my new Googly overlord.

]]> By: Exotic Matter http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422945 Exotic Matter Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:40:06 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422945 Do the masses ever wonder why the are condisered the 'great unwashed' by the wealthy? Woudn't it be too late when you found out your private information was being provided to a government or insurance company? What would you really do? You alone, are without power and resources and lack true courage to sacrifice. That's why you're numbered with the great unwashed, the lemmings of the planet. Hard to accept in that tiny little mind of yours' isn't it- savor your illusion - it makes it all bearable. Do the masses ever wonder why the are condisered the ‘great unwashed’ by the wealthy? Woudn’t it be too late when you found out your private information was being provided to a government or insurance company? What would you really do? You alone, are without power and resources and lack true courage to sacrifice. That’s why you’re numbered with the great unwashed, the lemmings of the planet. Hard to accept in that tiny little mind of yours’ isn’t it- savor your illusion - it makes it all bearable.

]]> By: yuban http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422944 yuban Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:40:03 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422944 Don't trust google. Use them, but don't trust them. Anyone who has had any experience with g's hiring process knows that noone is in control there. It is only a matter of time before they become the next Microsoft. Being inside Google is cooler than cool, but they don't give a shit about anyone outside their walls. If you were smart enough, you'd already be working there and if you're outside of the "loop", you don't count at all. Don’t trust google. Use them, but don’t trust them. Anyone who has had any experience with g’s hiring process knows that noone is in control there. It is only a matter of time before they become the next Microsoft. Being inside Google is cooler than cool, but they don’t give a shit about anyone outside their walls. If you were smart enough, you’d already be working there and if you’re outside of the “loop”, you don’t count at all.

]]> By: JD http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422839 JD Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:20:35 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422839 Hi, im from argentina, so excuse my english please. It`s true that massive information gathering is an issue that should worry web users but its also true that lately ive been hearing what a threat google became to big companies like Microsoft (the ultimate monopoly example). And its even a bigger coincidence that now we get to know how dangerous is to use google. So i would have to say that people working at googleplex should worry about users privacy, and even more on who is trying to exploit their mistakes (or exaggerate this mistakes) Hi, im from argentina, so excuse my english please. It`s true that massive information gathering is an issue that should worry web users but its also true that lately ive been hearing what a threat google became to big companies like Microsoft (the ultimate monopoly example). And its even a bigger coincidence that now we get to know how dangerous is to use google. So i would have to say that people working at googleplex should worry about users privacy, and even more on who is trying to exploit their mistakes (or exaggerate this mistakes)

]]> By: Daniel http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422733 Daniel Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:30:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422733 Ok, so Google stores "personal data" or "search terme". Your data is linked to your IP address, and in 95% of cases, that adress will never be the same. To trace you back, someone will have to go to your ISP and find out who was connected with what address at a specific time of day. Generally, these logs are kept from 1 to 2 years to the law can back-track, but for a third party to ID you, there is one heck of a lot of analysis that would be needed. If the breach is one of their google account protected systems, then that is a different kettle of fish as there could well be email data or personal data. Having solved external outsourced backup software, one of my customers recurring questions was "how can I trust that my data is safe?". For me, there is only one way: everything is encrypted on the service provider side, and only you, the user, is able to decrypt... as long as you use a nice long password, and don't upset the FBI, CIA or NSA. Any other way, then you will one day have a screw-up à la Royal Bank of Scotland, IBM or several others... Ok, so Google stores “personal data” or “search terme”. Your data is linked to your IP address, and in 95% of cases, that adress will never be the same. To trace you back, someone will have to go to your ISP and find out who was connected with what address at a specific time of day.

Generally, these logs are kept from 1 to 2 years to the law can back-track, but for a third party to ID you, there is one heck of a lot of analysis that would be needed.

If the breach is one of their google account protected systems, then that is a different kettle of fish as there could well be email data or personal data.

Having solved external outsourced backup software, one of my customers recurring questions was “how can I trust that my data is safe?”. For me, there is only one way: everything is encrypted on the service provider side, and only you, the user, is able to decrypt… as long as you use a nice long password, and don’t upset the FBI, CIA or NSA.

Any other way, then you will one day have a screw-up à la Royal Bank of Scotland, IBM or several others…

]]> By: Kalbintion Dier Kier http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422718 Kalbintion Dier Kier Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:02:09 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422718 Hey ppl, You are ignorant, why argue against google? why even attempt to pursuade people? It isnt YOUR choice to have them do something, it is their choice, i, being a programmer and such have found nothing wrong with google, i trust them, but i wouldnt suggest them to anyone because it is their choice -- i may mention it as an option but upon that option i always give other options and i tell a little about each -- im for google, but the rest of you attempting to get others to stop, or to use, is a pointless task, ur removing the freedom by US Law. The data which is used to help make your life better, i understand it falling into the wrong hands - thus you should have it ENCRYPTED, most companies do [i do at least in my programs] -- final word from me: Stop complaining; use things at your OWN risk. oh and stop attempting to get people to follow what you want them to follow because you dont like it. Hey ppl, You are ignorant, why argue against google? why even attempt to pursuade people? It isnt YOUR choice to have them do something, it is their choice, i, being a programmer and such have found nothing wrong with google, i trust them, but i wouldnt suggest them to anyone because it is their choice — i may mention it as an option but upon that option i always give other options and i tell a little about each — im for google, but the rest of you attempting to get others to stop, or to use, is a pointless task, ur removing the freedom by US Law. The data which is used to help make your life better, i understand it falling into the wrong hands - thus you should have it ENCRYPTED, most companies do [i do at least in my programs] — final word from me: Stop complaining; use things at your OWN risk. oh and stop attempting to get people to follow what you want them to follow because you dont like it.

]]> By: SFMike http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422683 SFMike Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:05:47 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422683 I don't trust Google and never have. Their whole business model is predicated on knowing more and more about you so they can place ads so you can buy more crap. I find it a little sad, actually, that one of the most technology advanced companies main focus is serving up ads. I don’t trust Google and never have. Their whole business model is predicated on knowing more and more about you so they can place ads so you can buy more crap.

I find it a little sad, actually, that one of the most technology advanced companies main focus is serving up ads.

]]> By: Vlad http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422654 Vlad Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:16:55 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422654 Strangely enough, every one and their mother think that Google's the big problem. However, if you remember the old "follow the money" saying, the biggest problem should be eBay + PayPal, who, by now, must have figured everyone already. They track IP addresses, they track what you buy and where you ship it, they track how you're paying and how some of you receive the money. Dang, that combo (eBay + PayPal) must be our second IRS by now :) Strangely enough, every one and their mother think that Google’s the big problem. However, if you remember the old “follow the money” saying, the biggest problem should be eBay + PayPal, who, by now, must have figured everyone already. They track IP addresses, they track what you buy and where you ship it, they track how you’re paying and how some of you receive the money. Dang, that combo (eBay + PayPal) must be our second IRS by now :)

]]> By: Andrew Mills http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422642 Andrew Mills Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:02:27 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422642 There are other providers of searching/webmail/etc etc/ services... There are other providers of searching/webmail/etc etc/ services…

]]> By: other http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422613 other Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:20:38 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422613 LOL. I'm pretty sure that their investment in biotech has more to do with making bank rather than "accessing people's DNA." LOL. LOL. I’m pretty sure that their investment in biotech has more to do with making bank rather than “accessing people’s DNA.”

LOL.

]]> By: cameleyedesign http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422578 cameleyedesign Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:45:11 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422578 Already, also the other companies expect google got a lot of personal information. they gave me useless callings, DMs and so on. however, google gave me useful services, i think this is not quite as bad as that... Already, also the other companies expect google got a lot of personal information. they gave me useless callings, DMs and so on. however, google gave me useful services, i think this is not quite as bad as that…

]]> By: heri http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422555 heri Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:42:14 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422555 Google for me is Big Brother personified. with their google toolbar and search history, they are publicly collecting what you are doing on the internet. they have streetview with snapshots of your house and your car's number plate. and those are just 2 examples, amidst all they are doing. And other people will find other uses for this info Google for me is Big Brother personified. with their google toolbar and search history, they are publicly collecting what you are doing on the internet. they have streetview with snapshots of your house and your car’s number plate. and those are just 2 examples, amidst all they are doing. And other people will find other uses for this info

]]> By: Gonzalo http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422551 Gonzalo Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:29:58 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422551 I don't really care about Google keeping track of everything I do. Besides that, nobody forces you to use Google's products... so, if you don't like it, just don't use it. I love Google's products, they're great and free but yeah, the "bad" part of it is that they track everything you do. It's up to you to use them. I don’t really care about Google keeping track of everything I do. Besides that, nobody forces you to use Google’s products… so, if you don’t like it, just don’t use it. I love Google’s products, they’re great and free but yeah, the “bad” part of it is that they track everything you do. It’s up to you to use them.

]]> By: shinji http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422495 shinji Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:17:43 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422495 I think it is not convenience to deliver personalized content. It must could not estimate information people need. Perhaps,It could send people little infomation just they want and many unnecessary infomation together. I think it is not convenience to deliver personalized content.
It must could not estimate information people need.
Perhaps,It could send people little infomation just they want and many unnecessary infomation together.

]]> By: Lucy http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422473 Lucy Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:42:29 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422473 Interesting information, but I think this is a little bit over the top. Google using people's DNA to deliver targeted health information? Unlikely. I'm all for a good conspiracy theory, but this is a little too over the top even for me. :) Interesting information, but I think this is a little bit over the top. Google using people’s DNA to deliver targeted health information? Unlikely. I’m all for a good conspiracy theory, but this is a little too over the top even for me. :)

]]> By: John http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422462 John Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:29:32 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422462 Google is becoming a growing threat to privacy. Sure MS is evil, but just because we hate MS, should we be willing to encourage and support any other company ? I have very serious reservations about Google's privacy policy. I love Google's products but they're starting to creep me out. I would be much happier if they did not store IP addresses with every search forever. They should, at the very least, have an option where you can permanently delete any traceable personal information. If I wanted to build a "Brave New World", Google would be the perfect vehicle for my goals. Google seeks to have absolute knowledge of the individual. Remember: Knowledge is power. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Google is becoming a growing threat to privacy. Sure MS is evil, but just because we hate MS, should we be willing to encourage and support any other company ? I have very serious reservations about Google’s privacy policy. I love Google’s products but they’re starting to creep me out. I would be much happier if they did not store IP addresses with every search forever. They should, at the very least, have an option where you can permanently delete any traceable personal information. If I wanted to build a “Brave New World”, Google would be the perfect vehicle for my goals. Google seeks to have absolute knowledge of the individual. Remember: Knowledge is power. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

]]> By: Privacy International интернет реклама SEO оптимизация уеб дизайн и реклама в интернет http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422416 Privacy International интернет реклама SEO оптимизация уеб дизайн и реклама в интернет Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:08:40 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422416 [...] по темата Google и Privacy International : Google Rated Bottom For Privacy An Open Letter to Google Loading... @import [...] [...] по темата Google и Privacy International : Google Rated Bottom For Privacy An Open Letter to Google Loading… @import [...]

]]> By: SELaplana http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422401 SELaplana Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:52:22 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422401 regarding to what you said: And Google’s ambitions may go well beyond the collection of personal information via the web. Their recent investment in 23andme, a service which will analyze people’s DNA, means that they may have access to people’s genetic makeup in the future. And that includes genetic flaws that might signal future health risks for them and their offspring. Google knowing what web searches we do today, or who we send emails to, is nothing compared with what may come in the future. I think, it not just google doing this. Let's not forget that Yahoo like Google has search engine, email, advertising services and other similar services that Google has. regarding to what you said:

And Google’s ambitions may go well beyond the collection of personal information via the web. Their recent investment in 23andme, a service which will analyze people’s DNA, means that they may have access to people’s genetic makeup in the future. And that includes genetic flaws that might signal future health risks for them and their offspring. Google knowing what web searches we do today, or who we send emails to, is nothing compared with what may come in the future.

I think, it not just google doing this. Let’s not forget that Yahoo like Google has search engine, email, advertising services and other similar services that Google has.

]]> By: Yohay http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422298 Yohay Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:01:10 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422298 I can't put my finger on it, but I'm not so concerned with Google's privacy issues. I can’t put my finger on it, but I’m not so concerned with Google’s privacy issues.

]]> By: Thomas - Technical Blogger http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422283 Thomas - Technical Blogger Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:47:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422283 <strong>Google’s Privacy Practice Graded Hostile to Privacy...</strong> Google privacy policy is under fire, and their motto ‘Do no evil’ is being challenged. A watchdog group Privacy International assigned Google its lowest possible grade in security for how Google handles personal information about its use... Google’s Privacy Practice Graded Hostile to Privacy…

Google privacy policy is under fire, and their motto ‘Do no evil’ is being challenged. A watchdog group Privacy International assigned Google its lowest possible grade in security for how Google handles personal information about its use…

]]> By: TechCrunch Japanese http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422277 TechCrunch Japanese Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:41:18 +0000 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/10/google-rated-bottom-for-privacy/#comment-1422277 <strong>Googleのプライバシー評価ランクは最下位...</strong> 英国NGO「Privacy International」が行った調査の結果、Googleはプライバシーに関して、主要インターネットサイト中最低にランクされた。 調査によると、他のインターネット企業にもプライ... Googleのプライバシー評価ランクは最下位…

英国NGO「Privacy International」が行った調査の結果、Googleはプライバシーに関して、主要インターネットサイト中最低にランクされた。
調査によると、他のインターネット企業にもプライ…

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