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	<title>Comments on: Joost v. Babelgum</title>
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		<title>By: News On NetTV - Tuesday 12 June &#124; tommaso.tessarolo</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1515578</link>
		<dc:creator>News On NetTV - Tuesday 12 June &#124; tommaso.tessarolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joost v. Babelgum Le prime impietose analisi di Babelgum, confrontato a Joost. Le conclusioni per il momento sono: sembra il fratello povero. Contenuti ProAM localizzati in lingua: questa la chiave di Babelgum. (tags: babelgum joost P2PTV TV) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joost v. Babelgum Le prime impietose analisi di Babelgum, confrontato a Joost. Le conclusioni per il momento sono: sembra il fratello povero. Contenuti ProAM localizzati in lingua: questa la chiave di Babelgum. (tags: babelgum joost P2PTV TV) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Sandie &#187; Thoughts On Joost and 3rd party Applications</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Sandie &#187; Thoughts On Joost and 3rd party Applications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have been thinking long and hard about 3rd party video applications like Joost and others. It is no question that these applications are a lot simpler to develop with phenomenal frameworks [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Great Dance Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1429496</link>
		<dc:creator>Great Dance Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Babelgum TV, New Distribution Channel for Quality Dance Videos...&lt;/strong&gt;

Babelgum is another contender in the battle to deliver full-screen, streaming video over the Internet. I've written previously about Joost, which offers a similar service. Babelgum, which is now in open beta, uses peer-to-peer technology to deliver vi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Babelgum TV, New Distribution Channel for Quality Dance Videos&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Babelgum is another contender in the battle to deliver full-screen, streaming video over the Internet. I&#8217;ve written previously about Joost, which offers a similar service. Babelgum, which is now in open beta, uses peer-to-peer technology to deliver vi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ajax Girl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chime.TV: A Prettier Way to Watch YouTube</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1424970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajax Girl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chime.TV: A Prettier Way to Watch YouTube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full page player is similar to Joost and Babelgum, but in your browser. Like the IPTV guys, you can flip through pre-made channels, roll your own, or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Just a random blog !</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just a random blog !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full page player is similar to Joost and Babelgum, but in your browser. Like the IPTV guys, you can flip through pre-made channels, roll your own, or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chime.TV: A Prettier Way to Watch YouTube : Forecast-Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1424908</link>
		<dc:creator>Chime.TV: A Prettier Way to Watch YouTube : Forecast-Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full page player is similar to Joost and Babelgum, but in your browser. Like the IPTV guys, you can flip through pre-made channels, roll your own, or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] full page player is similar to Joost and Babelgum, but in your browser. Like the IPTV guys, you can flip through pre-made channels, roll your own, or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chime.TV: A Prettier Way to Watch YouTube</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1424899</link>
		<dc:creator>Chime.TV: A Prettier Way to Watch YouTube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full page player is similar to Joost and Babelgum, but in your browser. Like the IPTV guys, you can flip through pre-made channels, roll your own, or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ian Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1422085</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I noticed that when you think you are closing Joost, it still runs in your taskbar. Does this mean the program is running in the background and perhaps "sharing" your files, stream bits with others in the Joost network? If so, that would definately be like other P2P networks.

You can bet this program will be strongly banned in the workplace. And if it slows down my network at home, I will not be letting it run in the background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I noticed that when you think you are closing Joost, it still runs in your taskbar. Does this mean the program is running in the background and perhaps &#8220;sharing&#8221; your files, stream bits with others in the Joost network? If so, that would definately be like other P2P networks.</p>
<p>You can bet this program will be strongly banned in the workplace. And if it slows down my network at home, I will not be letting it run in the background.</p>
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		<title>By: Thunk Different</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1421842</link>
		<dc:creator>Thunk Different</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i downloaded the beta for babelgum yesterday. i even watched a show about battleships. It was really sad for a saturday night.

I have tried joost too, I prefer joost for one reason, the re-sizing.

The content is very weak on both services, however i think joost has a little more pull. i'll give it time, its not bad, but babelgum's sake, make windows more versitile so i can multitask.

-Americo de Thunk Different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i downloaded the beta for babelgum yesterday. i even watched a show about battleships. It was really sad for a saturday night.</p>
<p>I have tried joost too, I prefer joost for one reason, the re-sizing.</p>
<p>The content is very weak on both services, however i think joost has a little more pull. i&#8217;ll give it time, its not bad, but babelgum&#8217;s sake, make windows more versitile so i can multitask.</p>
<p>-Americo de Thunk Different.</p>
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		<title>By: Iqbal</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1421596</link>
		<dc:creator>Iqbal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looked at joost / babelgum sometime ago, and Joosti heavy, like all other readers, content is king, youtube proves that, and getting content from people like viacom will not really help, the Internet is all about allowing the market create its own content, I agree youtube only has 5 minutes clips, but just think all those movie makers with little budget which could throw out some great 90minutes movies, or 30 minute serials, which would just get you hooked. Normal TV is boring, except discovery and nat geo, and even that is repeated, the one guy who opens up to the rest of the world to publish, will do well, the UI will fix itself, if they have enough brains and money to do this, the UI will come, Skype, Kazaa both open, why make Joost closed from a content point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looked at joost / babelgum sometime ago, and Joosti heavy, like all other readers, content is king, youtube proves that, and getting content from people like viacom will not really help, the Internet is all about allowing the market create its own content, I agree youtube only has 5 minutes clips, but just think all those movie makers with little budget which could throw out some great 90minutes movies, or 30 minute serials, which would just get you hooked. Normal TV is boring, except discovery and nat geo, and even that is repeated, the one guy who opens up to the rest of the world to publish, will do well, the UI will fix itself, if they have enough brains and money to do this, the UI will come, Skype, Kazaa both open, why make Joost closed from a content point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: 1303 - IT-News aus aller Welt</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1421593</link>
		<dc:creator>1303 - IT-News aus aller Welt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Babelgum vs. Joost...&lt;/strong&gt;

Babelgum vs. Joost

babelgum ist ebenso schick vielleicht ein bischen weniger bunt im &#8220;comicstyle&#8221; aufegbaut wie joost. die programmauswahl umfasst &#228;hnlich wie bei joost channels in denen entsprechende sendungen zum abruf bereitliegen....</description>
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<p>Babelgum vs. Joost</p>
<p>babelgum ist ebenso schick vielleicht ein bischen weniger bunt im &#8220;comicstyle&#8221; aufegbaut wie joost. die programmauswahl umfasst &#228;hnlich wie bei joost channels in denen entsprechende sendungen zum abruf bereitliegen&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Scott Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1421352</link>
		<dc:creator>David Scott Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The user experience is the key issue, in this case, content and speed-of-access/QoS.

Perhaps because I'm in China and usually going through a VPN in the States, Joost is just too slow, too choppy, almost always crashes.  So the QoS is awful.

I'm also not that thrilled by the content on Joost.  And if Bubblegum (I mean "Babelgum") has LESS content than Joost, isn't it really a joke, at least at this point?  

I haven't uninstalled Joost; matter of fact, it's the second item on my Start menu after the SpaceTime Beta.  But I hope they address QoS and content issues.  An advantage for Joost:  I believe that they already know that QoS and content are the key drivers.

Last comment:  First Skype, then Joost.  How about picking a company name that most people will pronounce correctly?  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The user experience is the key issue, in this case, content and speed-of-access/QoS.</p>
<p>Perhaps because I&#8217;m in China and usually going through a VPN in the States, Joost is just too slow, too choppy, almost always crashes.  So the QoS is awful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not that thrilled by the content on Joost.  And if Bubblegum (I mean &#8220;Babelgum&#8221;) has LESS content than Joost, isn&#8217;t it really a joke, at least at this point?  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t uninstalled Joost; matter of fact, it&#8217;s the second item on my Start menu after the SpaceTime Beta.  But I hope they address QoS and content issues.  An advantage for Joost:  I believe that they already know that QoS and content are the key drivers.</p>
<p>Last comment:  First Skype, then Joost.  How about picking a company name that most people will pronounce correctly?  <img src='http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Joost-Portal.dk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Babelgum Online TV i åben Beta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joost-Portal.dk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Babelgum Online TV i åben Beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hos TechCrunch har de fået testet programmet lidt grundigere. De er knapt så imponeret af programmet og kalder [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hos TechCrunch har de fået testet programmet lidt grundigere. De er knapt så imponeret af programmet og kalder [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Media Notes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Joost vs. Babelgum</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1421316</link>
		<dc:creator>Media Notes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Joost vs. Babelgum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 기사: Joost vs. Babelgum  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: wren</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1421294</link>
		<dc:creator>wren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you noticed that neither Joost (as in Yost) or Babelgum (don't know the correct Italian pronunciation) actually use P2P?  And if they travel out the long tail they never will.  Without P2P these apps don't scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed that neither Joost (as in Yost) or Babelgum (don&#8217;t know the correct Italian pronunciation) actually use P2P?  And if they travel out the long tail they never will.  Without P2P these apps don&#8217;t scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1421027</link>
		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my part I have tried both apps; I have noted a difference not covered by this article. Joost takes much more resources than Babelgum when it is displayed in fullscreen. That's why I'll vote for Babelgum (things can change!..).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part I have tried both apps; I have noted a difference not covered by this article. Joost takes much more resources than Babelgum when it is displayed in fullscreen. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ll vote for Babelgum (things can change!..).</p>
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		<title>By: kundojjala</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1420944</link>
		<dc:creator>kundojjala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joost,babelgum meant for living room.Not for those who consume 5-6 min clips(most of us fall into this category).I guess it takes 2-3 yrs before pople latch on to joosts seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joost,babelgum meant for living room.Not for those who consume 5-6 min clips(most of us fall into this category).I guess it takes 2-3 yrs before pople latch on to joosts seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1420707</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things to keep in mind:

1) Any product that is using licensed content will not be getting content that is top-tier. Big media like Viacom or Time Warner are not willing to trust any third-party well enough to distribute their premium shows/movies onto. At least not until the audience is large enough and the security is strong enough to prevent piracy.

2) Neither of these products are going to pick up enough steam unless their offer original content IMO. 

3) The quality is not there yet to where you would want to watch this on your television. I think most people would prefer to watch MTV on their 32"+ television over their monitor any day.

4) If Joost or Babelgum do wind up gathering a large audience and hoping to put this content into your living room via IPTV, you can bet that companies like Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and Verizon start offering more VOD content for their customers. If this happens, Joost or Babelgum could become obsolete.

In regards to Babelgum vs. Joost. Joost, may have the better content for now, but with Silvio Scaglia's ties to the telecom industry in Europe, I would not be surprised to see Babelgum gather IPTV adoption quicker outside of the U.S.

I personally do like the Joost interface a lot better as well. I am just not finding enough content to keep me going back. I want something original with some length, not some short 5 minute clips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things to keep in mind:</p>
<p>1) Any product that is using licensed content will not be getting content that is top-tier. Big media like Viacom or Time Warner are not willing to trust any third-party well enough to distribute their premium shows/movies onto. At least not until the audience is large enough and the security is strong enough to prevent piracy.</p>
<p>2) Neither of these products are going to pick up enough steam unless their offer original content IMO. </p>
<p>3) The quality is not there yet to where you would want to watch this on your television. I think most people would prefer to watch MTV on their 32&#8243;+ television over their monitor any day.</p>
<p>4) If Joost or Babelgum do wind up gathering a large audience and hoping to put this content into your living room via IPTV, you can bet that companies like Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and Verizon start offering more VOD content for their customers. If this happens, Joost or Babelgum could become obsolete.</p>
<p>In regards to Babelgum vs. Joost. Joost, may have the better content for now, but with Silvio Scaglia&#8217;s ties to the telecom industry in Europe, I would not be surprised to see Babelgum gather IPTV adoption quicker outside of the U.S.</p>
<p>I personally do like the Joost interface a lot better as well. I am just not finding enough content to keep me going back. I want something original with some length, not some short 5 minute clips.</p>
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		<title>By: Avatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the fortune to check both early on (thanks orly), and i can say that both suffer from the same illness and that was they they were both developed in a way that they will not be able to be as useful, cool or stable as they grow. they are the kind of model and service that would have benefited in enormous way if they were developed in any of the next gen platforms be it silverlight, be it Apollo or Javafx.. instead we got babelgum developed in a very traditional way, and joost using mozilla code that even if the base code is flawless is now know as hard to maintain stable as things are added into it unless is done directly by the guys at mozilla. i think they both are gonna sufer from it, and that version of both services are not gonnalive up to the hype, even then of course joost is way better rounded in user aspect from content, to design and of course marketing, but i must say that it is not as stable as babelgum, and then you got babelgum, that seems to have a faster and more stable client, but suffers from a poor design,poor marketing and poor content..

now on the other hand, i look forward for when they get into developing version 2.0.. i am sure they would be better off trying any of the next gen platforms to build it. but don`t anyone worry for the services because  it is hard for both product to die off. babelgum is backed by a very stubborn and rich man, and skype by two rich stubborn men that got venture capitalists and the media to their side... so i would not bet on anyone death before a year in the market has passed.

So the question would be:

who is going to launch the third option once both final version have been launched?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the fortune to check both early on (thanks orly), and i can say that both suffer from the same illness and that was they they were both developed in a way that they will not be able to be as useful, cool or stable as they grow. they are the kind of model and service that would have benefited in enormous way if they were developed in any of the next gen platforms be it silverlight, be it Apollo or Javafx.. instead we got babelgum developed in a very traditional way, and joost using mozilla code that even if the base code is flawless is now know as hard to maintain stable as things are added into it unless is done directly by the guys at mozilla. i think they both are gonna sufer from it, and that version of both services are not gonnalive up to the hype, even then of course joost is way better rounded in user aspect from content, to design and of course marketing, but i must say that it is not as stable as babelgum, and then you got babelgum, that seems to have a faster and more stable client, but suffers from a poor design,poor marketing and poor content..</p>
<p>now on the other hand, i look forward for when they get into developing version 2.0.. i am sure they would be better off trying any of the next gen platforms to build it. but don`t anyone worry for the services because  it is hard for both product to die off. babelgum is backed by a very stubborn and rich man, and skype by two rich stubborn men that got venture capitalists and the media to their side&#8230; so i would not bet on anyone death before a year in the market has passed.</p>
<p>So the question would be:</p>
<p>who is going to launch the third option once both final version have been launched?</p>
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		<title>By: WC</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1420283</link>
		<dc:creator>WC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this review of Babelgum smacks a bit harsh to say the least. There's no denying the similarities to Joost but I wouldn't call Babelgum a clone.  Joost was first to open but the two started development around the same time.

The content on Babelgum is different by design.  Joost is essentially replicating mainstream tv while Babelgum has content one wouldn't necessarily find elsewhere. Its more of a supplement to tv watching rather than a replacement.

I think both services are groundbreaking and should be enjoyed in tandem not exclusively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this review of Babelgum smacks a bit harsh to say the least. There&#8217;s no denying the similarities to Joost but I wouldn&#8217;t call Babelgum a clone.  Joost was first to open but the two started development around the same time.</p>
<p>The content on Babelgum is different by design.  Joost is essentially replicating mainstream tv while Babelgum has content one wouldn&#8217;t necessarily find elsewhere. Its more of a supplement to tv watching rather than a replacement.</p>
<p>I think both services are groundbreaking and should be enjoyed in tandem not exclusively.</p>
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		<title>By: Om</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1420131</link>
		<dc:creator>Om</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 21:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With so many varied opinions about content and performance quality for both Joost and Babelgum, I would like to hear thoughts on another competitor in this space; Vuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so many varied opinions about content and performance quality for both Joost and Babelgum, I would like to hear thoughts on another competitor in this space; Vuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Peripatetic</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1420121</link>
		<dc:creator>Peripatetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 21:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Joost UI looks very nice, but it's not that easy to use.  Too many clicks are needed to find what you want.  It's still a TV interface, which is clunky.  Also, I wonder if getting the big media companies involved so early might not be a curse in disguise.  TV over the net is disruptive to traditional media companies, and their instinct is going to be to protect their major revenue streams.  Joost may end up being too hamstrung by the wishes of their backers.  I mean, at this point, given who their investors are, can they really implement something that their users would love but that Viacom doesn't like?  If they can't, then they're in very deep trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Joost UI looks very nice, but it&#8217;s not that easy to use.  Too many clicks are needed to find what you want.  It&#8217;s still a TV interface, which is clunky.  Also, I wonder if getting the big media companies involved so early might not be a curse in disguise.  TV over the net is disruptive to traditional media companies, and their instinct is going to be to protect their major revenue streams.  Joost may end up being too hamstrung by the wishes of their backers.  I mean, at this point, given who their investors are, can they really implement something that their users would love but that Viacom doesn&#8217;t like?  If they can&#8217;t, then they&#8217;re in very deep trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1420033</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: 2006 Calling Babelgum &#8212; digitizedOrb</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1420029</link>
		<dc:creator>2006 Calling Babelgum &#8212; digitizedOrb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TechCrunch: Competition in any field drives innovation and is good for the consumer, yet for Babelgum 2006 is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TechCrunch: Competition in any field drives innovation and is good for the consumer, yet for Babelgum 2006 is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/09/hands-on-with-babelgum-a-poor-mans-joost/#comment-1419931</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have Cable TV service. I stayed up until way too late last night watching Punk'd and Comedy Central on Joost. It crashed a few times, and a few programs didn't come up at first, but overall it is rather cool and the UI is elegantly usable - just wish you could bookmark multiple shows and come back to them. Seems to only remember the last one you were watching before you put it on standby. Can't wait to see more programming come to these outlets - it's so intriguingly disruptive to the paid TV industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have Cable TV service. I stayed up until way too late last night watching Punk&#8217;d and Comedy Central on Joost. It crashed a few times, and a few programs didn&#8217;t come up at first, but overall it is rather cool and the UI is elegantly usable - just wish you could bookmark multiple shows and come back to them. Seems to only remember the last one you were watching before you put it on standby. Can&#8217;t wait to see more programming come to these outlets - it&#8217;s so intriguingly disruptive to the paid TV industry.</p>
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